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nodyforever
November 19th, 2008, 01:18 PM
Hello
1 - scanning
2 - after reboot pc
any ideas?
Most regards,
NF
Kosak
November 19th, 2008, 01:20 PM
Hello, this isn't FP 100%.
CivilTaz
November 19th, 2008, 01:21 PM
A virus for sure
nodyforever
November 19th, 2008, 01:28 PM
v3 - not detect
v4 - detect
Each time you restart the pc it says is the lack of file ... if it were a virus was the same?
CivilTaz
November 19th, 2008, 01:30 PM
Maybe V4 has better malware detection, i have some files that are detected in V3 but not in V2
ASpace
November 19th, 2008, 01:31 PM
{QUOTE-> v3 - not detect
v4 - detect <-QUOTE}
This should be checked . Are you sure ? Nowhere have I read that detection was improved in this regards
{QUOTE-> Each time you restart the pc it says is the lack of file <-QUOTE}
because the file is gone but the reg key is not (most likely)
ASpace
November 19th, 2008, 01:32 PM
{QUOTE-> Maybe V4 has better malware detection, i have some files that are detected in V3 but not in V2 <-QUOTE}
Could you send them to me (please load them somewhere and PM me links) . I am very interested because all I have seen was detected by both versions - just curious . Thanks!
Kosak
November 19th, 2008, 01:32 PM
Win32/Adware.Virtumonde produces amount of DLLs in system folders and every file hasn't to be detected, too. When you remove only file without his Registry values, OS calls this DLL at startup everytime. I recommend you check this in ESET SysInspector.
CivilTaz
November 19th, 2008, 01:58 PM
{QUOTE-> Could you send them to me (please load them somewhere and PM me links) . I am very interested because all I have seen was detected by both versions - just curious . Thanks! <-QUOTE}
Of course, as soon as PM's are available again
nodyforever
November 19th, 2008, 02:06 PM
{QUOTE-> This should be checked . Are you sure ? Nowhere have I read that detection was improved in this regards
because the file is gone but the reg key is not (most likely) <-QUOTE}
v3 data base virus setup installation
v4 data base virus setup installation
not update internet connection
you can see for myself if the virus was present in v3 database?
Regards,
NF
ASpace
November 19th, 2008, 02:08 PM
{QUOTE-> Of course, as soon as PM's are available again <-QUOTE}
I got it . thanks! :thumb:
Marcos
November 19th, 2008, 02:08 PM
{QUOTE-> Of course, as soon as PM's are available again <-QUOTE}
As far as I'm concerned, exchanging malware samples is not allowed at Wilders, but correct me if I'm wrong. Could you please send a log from SysInspector to samples[at]eset.com with this thread's url in the subject?
ASpace
November 19th, 2008, 02:10 PM
{QUOTE-> v3 data base virus setup installation
v4 data base virus setup installation
not update internet connection
<-QUOTE}
I just noticed from your screenshot that the program is not up-to-date but with old signatures . Do you mean that you were running v3 with definitions out of date - the one that came integrated in the installer ? If so , it is normal because the v4 installer does have newer signature version than the one from the v3 installer of 3.0.672
ASpace
November 19th, 2008, 02:11 PM
{QUOTE-> As far as I'm concerned, exchanging malware samples is not allowed at Wilders, but correct me if I'm wrong. <-QUOTE}
He didn't post them for the public , just sent them for me in-private. This way nobone can get infected .
CivilTaz
November 19th, 2008, 02:13 PM
{QUOTE-> As far as I'm concerned, exchanging malware samples is not allowed at Wilders, but correct me if I'm wrong. Could you please send a log from SysInspector to samples[at]eset.com with this thread's url in the subject? <-QUOTE}
It is not malware, its a keygen, and i'm sure it didnt do anything at all, but the strange thing, is that is detected in V3 as a variant of Win32/Agent Trojan, but V2 do not detect it with all options enabed
CivilTaz
November 19th, 2008, 02:19 PM
Ah, BTW Marcos, i think u should show more interesting in answering things very important like this http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=225634
And no worrying about such trivial stuff.
nodyforever
November 19th, 2008, 02:22 PM
{QUOTE-> I just noticed from your screenshot that the program is not up-to-date but with old signatures . Do you mean that you were running v3 with definitions out of date - the one that came integrated in the installer ? If so , it is normal because the v4 installer does have newer signature version than the one from the v3 installer of 3.0.672 <-QUOTE}
yes friend, signatures database setup, no updates internet connection
Most Regards,
NF
agoretsky
November 19th, 2008, 02:24 PM
Hello,
Please submit the file in a password-protected archive to samples@eset.sk with a link to this message thread.
Regards,
Aryeh Goretsky
{QUOTE-> Hello
1 - scanning
2 - after reboot pc
any ideas?
Most regards,
NF <-QUOTE}
Marcos
November 19th, 2008, 02:26 PM
{QUOTE->
And no worrying about such trivial stuff. <-QUOTE}
It's not a trivial stuff at all, maybe it seems so to you, but it's not. I cannot answer the other question right now. Please send the ESI log as requested to samples[at]eset.com with this thread's url in the subject. The file is 100% Virtumonde, but I'd like to check the log to see where it's registered and what application could have dropped it.
nodyforever
November 19th, 2008, 02:50 PM
{QUOTE-> It's not a trivial stuff at all, maybe it seems so to you, but it's not. I cannot answer the other question right now. Please send the ESI log as requested to samples[at]eset.com with this thread's url in the subject. The file is 100% Virtumonde, but I'd like to check the log to see where it's registered and what application could have dropped it. <-QUOTE}
Send tomorrow Marcos
Thank you
ASpace
November 20th, 2008, 01:37 AM
{QUOTE-> It is not malware, its a keygen <-QUOTE}
By the way , you should submit the keygen file as false positive because it really isn't malware (IMO) .
Marcos
November 20th, 2008, 01:53 AM
{QUOTE-> By the way , you should submit the keygen file as false positive because it really isn't malware (IMO) . <-QUOTE}
I for one think that keygens are not desired stuff in corporate environment. Should we really spend precious time removing detection for keyloggers instead of dealing with malware? :-\
CivilTaz
November 20th, 2008, 01:57 AM
{QUOTE-> I for one think that keygens are not desired stuff in corporate environment. Should we really spend precious time removing detection for keyloggers instead of dealing with malware? :-\ <-QUOTE}
If it is not malware, u should.
ASpace
November 20th, 2008, 01:57 AM
{QUOTE-> I for one think that keygens are not desired stuff in corporate environment. <-QUOTE}
I agree .
{QUOTE-> Should we really spend precious time removing detection for keyloggers instead of dealing with malware? :-\ <-QUOTE}
Do you have this file ? You detect it as a variant of Trojan Agent . Is it trojan actually ? I doubt . "It's a keygen so let's detect it even though it is not a malware" - I didn't expect to hear such thing from you.
Fatih Batur
November 20th, 2008, 06:46 AM
I think if you want to you use a keygen, just exclude it :)
ASpace
November 20th, 2008, 09:43 AM
{QUOTE-> I think if you want to you use a keygen, just exclude it :) <-QUOTE}
I am not using cracks . We are talking about something else , the fact this sample is not actually a trojan.
funkydude
November 20th, 2008, 11:04 AM
Indeed, if it's not a trojan, don't tell us it's one. Totally misleading, and to make things worse, you're bloating up the DB.
CivilTaz
November 20th, 2008, 11:13 AM
Makes me wonder if it is true that some companies pays some money to the AV's developers to detect some stuff that can affect their sells.
nodyforever
November 20th, 2008, 12:51 PM
REsolved Post
1 - restore dll file
2 - scanning full options
3 - disappear rundll dependence after reboot pc
ASpace
November 20th, 2008, 01:12 PM
{QUOTE->
3 - disappear rundll dependence after reboot pc <-QUOTE}
Do this mean that NOD32 actually removed the reg key
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