PCLOS 2009 beta released...

[Longboard]

Been a while gestating...but...coming soon to a box near you
Really sounds more like a 'pre-beta'
Sad that Texstar might be off the project for a while.
http://www.pclinuxos.com/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=26&topic=50565.0

[Kerodo]

Wow, I had long ago given up on this.... good news, hopefully it will continue to be as good as it has been in the past.....

[Arup]

Still no hope of x64. PCLOS is Mandriva refined, so easy to use and setup and with all working drivers.

[Mrkvonic]

Hello,
I'll definitely look into this.
Got some 10 articles up the sleeve, after that ... man, too much good stuff, too little time.
Mrk

[Arup]

{QUOTE-> Hello,
I'll definitely look into this.
Got some 10 articles up the sleeve, after that ... man, too much good stuff, too little time.
Mrk <-QUOTE}


Take your time, we know its gonna be a good one.

[FastGame]

{QUOTE-> Wow, I had long ago given up on this.... good news, hopefully it will continue to be as good as it has been in the past..... <-QUOTE}
What is there to give up on ? PCLOS is a rolling release, keep it updated and you have the latest version.....no 6 month release versions.....

{QUOTE-> Q: Since PCLinuxOS is a rolling release so anyone who regularly keeps his/her current stable 2007 or Minime 2008 installation updated/upgraded from repos once they are fully working will he/she be able to upgrade to final release of PCLinuxOS 2009?

------> or do we need another fresh install after the final release? <-QUOTE}

{QUOTE-> if you have a 2007 install, updating it and adding a new kernel will make it as up to date as any final that is released.

the beta out at present is a test release and not meant to be used further than the next beta. each of these betas is a full install, because these are used for bug hunting. <-QUOTE}

8) :)

{QUOTE-> Still no hope of x64. PCLOS is Mandriva refined, so easy to use and setup and with all working drivers. <-QUOTE}

I don't think PCLOS will have a 64bit version until 64bit is more mainstream or PCLOS gets more developers to keep up :-\

[aigle]

Any screenshots?

Thanks

[farmerlee]

Couple of shots running the livecd in virtualbox. It installs fine and runs great in virtualbox 2.0.2. Guest additions are a breeze to install as well, i wish more distros were this easy to install and use in a VM.

[Mr2cents]

This is one nice distro. Flash is working great. Can't get audio to work. That could be easily fixed though. I have one of those intel-hda soundcards..they are a beast. I found something very interesting in the utilities folder.

An option to "Restore The Master Boot Record" or mbr. I haven't saw that option in any other distro. I'm a linux newbie and could have overlooked it. I wonder if this would make a good rescue disk for grub? Textar, I believe that's his name has done a tremendous job.

I really like it.

[Mr2cents]

I went to all the news sites to make sure video and flash would work. Remember, I haven't got audio yet. Flash worked fine on cnn, foxnews, bbc. However, when I went to the drudgereport. I saw a lot of black boxes where pics should have been. I'm attaching the image.

That's to be expected in betas though.

[aigle]

@ Farmerless
@Mr2cents

Thanks for the screenshots. Looks nice. Can it be installed in a USB flash memory stick?

[Kerodo]

Well, that just killed it for me... Unfortunately, looks like it's still old KDE 3.x and no KDE4. And no x64 either, so I will pass already.... shame. KDE4 is just so much nicer than 3.x. Nothing much new to see there from the looks of things... Oh well....

[farmerlee]

{QUOTE-> @ Farmerless
@Mr2cents

Thanks for the screenshots. Looks nice. Can it be installed in a USB flash memory stick? <-QUOTE}
Yeh under utilities there is an option to create a live usb stick.

[farmerlee]

{QUOTE-> Well, that just killed it for me... Unfortunately, looks like it's still old KDE 3.x and no KDE4. And no x64 either, so I will pass already.... shame. KDE4 is just so much nicer than 3.x. Nothing much new to see there from the looks of things... Oh well.... <-QUOTE}
Looks like they have some stability problems with KDE4 so they're using KDE 3.5.10 instead. Once they've fixed that issue KDE4 will be available from the repos.

[Kerodo]

{QUOTE-> Looks like they have some stability problems with KDE4 so they're using KDE 3.5.10 instead. Once they've fixed that issue KDE4 will be available from the repos. <-QUOTE}
Ok, now I"m interested again...... ;D

[aigle]

Thanks a lot.

[aigle]

BTW what is good in PCLinuxOS that is not there in Ubuntu?

Thanks

[FastGame]

{QUOTE-> BTW what is good in PCLinuxOS that is not there in Ubuntu?

Thanks <-QUOTE}

KDE, PCLOS has a better control center.

[farmerlee]

You can get ubuntu with KDE and pclos with gnome so theres no differences there. However it looks like pclos may have a few extra handy features for the power user, you could probably accomplish the same in ubuntu but probably not as easily.

[Kerodo]

{QUOTE-> BTW what is good in PCLinuxOS that is not there in Ubuntu?

Thanks <-QUOTE}
I would rate them very similar in so much as they are both excellent out of the box experiences with little tweaking needed for an average user. Of course you can get KDE and XFCE in Ubuntu by installing the separate Kubuntu or Xubuntu distros.... In PCLOS you can install all 3 desktops in one setup by installing the Xfce and Gnome metapackages and switch between them at will, so that's kinda nice.. PCLOS was my very first distro and one of my favorites for a long time. Ubuntu is a current favorite as well. I hope they do the new PCLOS as well as the previous ones.

[aigle]

Thanks for replies.

Ubuntu is more main stream so it,s documentatiosn is easy to find on net. Good for beginners I guess. Also more supported.

[Longboard]

PCLOS = 'rolling release' + Synaptic = easy system type updates ;)
(TBH, not sure whether this applies to full version releases ie 2008 >> 2009. :doubt:)

Control Panel in PCLOS is prolly the best of the genre in LinuxLand for non cli meisters
Texstar and the rippers are possibly the 'best' packagers around.
Stability is put ahead of cutting edge

[FastGame]

{QUOTE-> PCLOS = 'rolling release' + Synaptic = easy system type updates ;)
(TBH, not sure whether this applies to full version releases ie 2008 >> 2009. :doubt:) <-QUOTE}

2007>2008> to 2009, yes http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=1334596&postcount=6

I updated fully updated 2007 to 2009 (using testing repo) and all is fine 8)

[Longboard]

Ah :) Cool

Just a q then: re:
{QUOTE-> if you have a 2007 install, updating it and adding a new kernel will make it as up to date as any final that is released.

the beta out at present is a test release and not meant to be used further than the next beta. each of these betas is a full install, because these are used for bug hunting. <-QUOTE}
I interpreted this to mean that if you do a full update to current beta release, you cannot then go 'past' that release

I,ve likely misunderstood exactly how this beta schedule works...??

[Pedro]

{QUOTE->
Control Panel in PCLOS is prolly the best of the genre in LinuxLand for non cli meisters <-QUOTE}
I find it interesting too, but it's Mandriva's Control Center no?

[Longboard]

{QUOTE-> I find it interesting too, but it's Mandriva's Control Center no? <-QUOTE}
Most of PCLOS is based on texstar's implementation of Mandriva tools afaicr.
I cant 'boot around' atm to post any screenies but from a subjective pov as a raw noob the PCLOS control centre, and the distro itself, worked better ( for me) than the Mandriva releases prior to Mandriva 2009.

The user friendliness of the PCLOS cc and distro was a revelation at the time.

The other cc i really like for 'simplifying' wrt to Slack anyway is in Wolvix.

From my observations, the big distros really went to work on their GUI cc's in the most recent releases. The 2009 Mandriva for instance I now regard as a very polished release even with KDE4.x

Even Puppy 4.1 has a recognisable and useable cc

Just my subjective observations re ease of use: I had ( have :) ) a lot of catch-up to do with config files, CLI, text editors etc etc when I started from scratch, which is why I have a lot of affection for PCLOS and ease of use stemming from that cc...

[Pedro]

I understand you. I was just making sure i got it right. You said "Control Panel in PCLOS is prolly the best of the genre in LinuxLand for non cli meisters" when it's not even their creation ::)
Anyway, i understand that what is appealing is default configuration and tools :thumb:

[Longboard]

{QUOTE-> Most of PCLOS is based on texstar's implementation of Mandriva tools afaicr <-QUOTE}Potted history for those interested
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCLinuxOS