NIS 2009 + "what other software???"

[R3XNebular]

I am using NIS 2009 and liking it very much, however it is so light I feel naked and vulnerable, maybe its all in my head but is there something else to add to the protection, I currently have WINPATROL, NIS2009, and KeyScrambler Free ::)

[CubonesCastle]

Your alright i guess, i generally try to steer away from norton products but aslong as your carefull you wont need other software and if you did you probably couldent benifit much, if anything add MBAM/SAS an demand.

[vijayind]

Well, I have DefenseWall,Keyscrambler,SAS along with NIS2009. I feel pretty well protected...

[Ed_H]

-{ Quote: "Well, I have DefenseWall,Keyscrambler,SAS along with NIS2009. I feel pretty well protected..." }-

Any slowdown with that combo?

[edd3800]

I'm using Sandboxie with NIS 2009. It works very well. Kind of boring don't even
have any tracking cookies. I check the firewall logs from time to time. It always seems like its doing what it suppose to do.

[Einsturzende]

unbelievable ??? lightness is cause of vulnerability feeling, try to fragment your disk or downclock your system, maybe feeling of secured system (and idiocy) come back...
I guess, that is what happens after years of Symantec "convincing", that "good" security must take its victims (in the shape of low system performance)

[vijayind]

-{ Quote: "Any slowdown with that combo?" }-
No. Just one kink. I found SAS Pro sometimes shoots up in CPU usage esp. when Browsing. So I disabled real-time protection (since I have NIS2009).

Thats about it, the system works fine as fiddle.:thumb:

[R3XNebular]

-{ Quote: "unbelievable ??? lightness is cause of vulnerability feeling, try to fragment your disk or downclock your system, maybe feeling of secured system (and idiocy) come back...
I guess, that is what happens after years of Symantec "convincing", that "good" security must take its victims (in the shape of low system performance)" }-

lol yes pretty much, my computer has never started this fast with NIS 2009, everything is lightning quick

[emperordarius]

MBAM, SAS, a decent behaviour blocker/HIPS and occasional scans with Cure IT, AVP Tool, F-Secure Easy Clean.

[Zeena]

Hi R3XNebular :)

On My Laptop..
I just have NIS 09 and SAS :D

I only installed SAS on my laptop last week.
This was after a rather Bazaar situation - Where...
NIS 09 couldn't update on my Laptop.
AVG 8 couldn't update on my Desktop.
The only thing that managed to Fix both...
Was running a Full Scan with SAS in Safe Mode .. And letting it kill the Cookies.
Strange But True! ;D

At The Time...
I was really upset by my Update problem :'(
But Now...
I'm glad it happened in a way!
Otherwise...
I probably wouldn't have bothered installing SAS on my Laptop.
I would have been too worried about it upsetting NIS 09 :doubt:

Now I've Got - SAS 8)
I make sure I keep it updated.
And I feel safer knowing I've got it as a Back Up to NIS 09

Note!
If you do get SAS .. You only need the Free version ;)
You know what vijayind was saying...
-{ Quote: "Just one kink. I found SAS Pro sometimes shoots up in CPU usage esp. when Browsing. So I disabled real-time protection (since I have NIS2009)." }-
Well...
Running two lots of security software with Real Time Protection ... Is likely to cause problems anyway :(
And that's why you only need the Free version of SAS
The Free SAS doesn't come with Real Time Protection ;)
Also... It's as quite as a mouse :thumb:

[Zeena]

Hi Everyone :)

I Don't Get All This...
NIS 09 is so much lighter then previous NIS Software :-\

Maybe a lot of you hadn't tried NIS for quite a few years.
But my fist computer had NIS 06 ... And it was - Light! :)
I also found...
NIS 07 .. Light!
N360 v1 .. Light!

NIS 08 .. Light!
N360 v2 .. Not Light >:(

NIS 09 .. Not as Light as N360 v1 ... But Lighter than N360 v2

The Most Heavy Security Suite Ive Ever Tried... McAfee :thumbd:

[rolarocka]

I am using NIS2009 with SandboxIE and ThreatFire. NIS2009 is so light that i can sacrifice a bit CPU for ThreatFire :)

[Ed_H]

I am giving NIS 2009 another try along with DefenseWall. DefenseWall added to anything makes me feel much more protected.

[Einsturzende]

-{ Quote: "Hi Everyone :)

I Don't Get All This...
NIS 09 is so much lighter then previous NIS Software :-\

Maybe a lot of you hadn't tried NIS for quite a few years.
But my fist computer had NIS 06 ... And it was - Light! :)
I also found...
NIS 07 .. Light!
N360 v1 .. Light!

NIS 08 .. Light!
N360 v2 .. Not Light >:(

NIS 09 .. Not as Light as N360 v1 ... But Lighter than N360 v2

The Most Heavy Security Suite Ive Ever Tried... McAfee :thumbd:" }-

So, N360 v1 was/is lightest one?

[rolarocka]

Does N360 already have trusted files and norton insight? Thats one of the reasons why NIS2009 is so fast and light.

[Graystoke]

I use MBAM on demand only along with NIS 2009. I don't run MBAM too often, because I feel pretty secure with NIS 2009.

[midway40]

Norton seems to be in a "damned if you do and damned if you don't" situation. Users used to complain of it being too heavy and now it is too light.

Poor Norton, lol.

[hlc]

Norton finally come back in my computer....NIS 2009 is amazing.

[JasSolo]

-{ Quote: "I use MBAM on demand only along with NIS 2009. I don't run MBAM too often, because I feel pretty secure with NIS 2009." }-

I totally agree....I have the same setup :) :thumb:


Cheers

[ASpace]

This thread feels like people happy from their software . Sorry for interrupting the party !

-{ Quote: "Norton seems to be in a "damned if you do and damned if you don't" situation. Users used to complain of it being too heavy and now it is too light" }-

You must be kidding , people , right ? On what system your Norton is light ?
How long (minutes/hours) did it take to complete the following with NIS 2009:
1. Install the program
2. Enter the license details
3. Download and install all the necessary updates so that it says "I am up-to-date , no more update necessary"

I know the answer , just want to read it from you.

How long does it take to uninstall NIS 2009 ? Uninstall = Uninstall and completely remove all tracks of Symantec ? Is it even possible to remove all tracks of Symantec Norton (even 2009) ? Again - I know the answer , just want to read it from you.

[R3XNebular]

-{ Quote: "This thread feels like people happy from their software . Sorry for interrupting the party !



You must be kidding , people , right ? On what system your Norton is light ?
How long (minutes/hours) did it take to complete the following with NIS 2009:
1. Install the program
2. Enter the license details
3. Download and install all the necessary updates so that it says "I am up-to-date , no more update necessary"

I know the answer , just want to read it from you.

How long does it take to uninstall NIS 2009 ? Uninstall = Uninstall and completely remove all tracks of Symantec ? Is it even possible to remove all tracks of Symantec Norton (even 2009) ? Again - I know the answer , just want to read it from you." }-
bout 4 mins? Uninstall took like two mins for me? is that to slow for you, do you have something better? im sorry im noob i thought that was fast

[Ed_H]

-{ Quote: "This thread feels like people happy from their software . Sorry for interrupting the party !



You must be kidding , people , right ? On what system your Norton is light ?
How long (minutes/hours) did it take to complete the following with NIS 2009:
1. Install the program
2. Enter the license details
3. Download and install all the necessary updates so that it says "I am up-to-date , no more update necessary"

I know the answer , just want to read it from you.

How long does it take to uninstall NIS 2009 ? Uninstall = Uninstall and completely remove all tracks of Symantec ? Is it even possible to remove all tracks of Symantec Norton (even 2009) ? Again - I know the answer , just want to read it from you." }-

About 5 minutes combined for 1, 2 and 3.

Uninstall is still a question for me. I had a problem uninstalling but others did not.

What are your answers?

[Zeena]

Hi Einsturzende :)

-{ Quote: "So, N360 v1 was/is lightest one?" }-

In My Opinion... Yes it was definitely the lightest :thumb:

My CPU Monitor never moved off 2% when the computer was sitting idle.
Even a Full Computer scan was gentle on the CPU :)


Hi rolarocka :)

-{ Quote: "Does N360 already have trusted files and norton insight? Thats one of the reasons why NIS2009 is so fast and light." }-

Now please remember..
I'm not as experienced in computers as you guys.
But as far as I can remeber...
No! ... Norton 360 didn't have Norton Insight or Trusted Files.


Re : Norton 360 v1

On The Up Side...

N360 had a Fantastic Pop up Blocker and Ad Blocker :D
Yes I Know... IE7 has a built in Pop Up Blocker.
But the N360 Ad Blocker... Did an amazing job!
If you switched it On & OFF ... You could instantly see the difference on certain websites.
I wont name - Names
But lets just say... There is one Forum that goes way over the top with Ads.
The N360 Ad Blocker ... Wiped The Lot! 8)


On The Down Side...

N360 had one Major Fault :'(
For some strange reason...
Symantec took out the Right-Click & Scan function >:(
Obviously this didn't go down well :thumbd:


When Norton 360 v2 Came Out...
A lot of people switched over .. Because Right-Click & Scan had been put back :D
Trouble Was...
Symantec had now taken out the Pop Up Blocker and Ad Blocker :argh:
N360 v2 was a lot heavier on the CPU when scanning.
And with the introduction of Idle Scans...
N360 v 2 Did nothing but... Scan.. Scan.. Scan..
Sometimes 2 Full Scans a day >:(
I hated N360 v2 :thumbd:
It Was Full Of Bugs!
I had to... Get Rid >:(
That's how I ended up with AVG 8 on my Desktop Computer ::)


Just A Note...

No matter what version of Norton I've had - On...
Old XP Desktop
Vista Desktop
New Vista Laptop
A Full Scan with Norton... Has always taken roughly the same time - 30 to 40 minutes.

So as far as Scanning goes...
Does Norton Insight and Trusted Files ... Work?
I'm Not Convinced :-\

[ASpace]

-{ Quote: "bout 4 mins?" }-

Lol. Installing 4 minutes - yes , but I asked Install + update .

On my testing on fresh XP SP3 (1.86 Ghz dual-core processor , 1 Gb RAM) , it is still the same . Yes , it installed much faster than previous Nortons but still slow . Moreover , I took me so long to create their stupid Norton account before even trying to update . The updates were so big that you can't even imagine , the download - so slugginsh . Count how many minutes were needed ... About about restart after update - sometimes they require it.


-{ Quote: "Uninstall took like two mins for me?" }-

Lucky guy . What about manually cleaning remnants of the product after reboot. If you think that uninstalling 40 minutes is a normal way to handle things and always using the Symantec NRT is OK , then I agree.


ESET Smart Security installs in less than 2 minutes , requires no reboot , no extra account creating and downloads/installs the updates immediately as a flash without reboot required . ESET updates are much smaller than Norton's , so small that one can hardly notice them.

I really don't wanna start a fight (and comparison) about this but in my opinion you really can't say Norton is light product (at least compare it to other good products such as ESET's , AVIRA's , etc.) . You'll notice the difference . I am sure I did nothing wrong in my testing . I have been working in this area/business for some years and Symantec/Norton have never been light. May be my vision about lightness is different than yours , who knows.

[gery]

I had some registry keys left overs that Norton removal tool found and it really slowed my system down but the trialing period of NIS 09 was very very positive especially the browsing was super fast the fastest of all suites and even faster then AVG antivirus paid (which i am using right now). Symantec has started to learn the lesson well and done the homework correctly.

[edd3800]

I have Vista Home Premium. Installing and updating was fast. I did not time it but I would say around 5 to 8 minutes. I use Revo Uninstaller so it takes longer to uninstall a program. When I uninstalled the Beta it was a smooth uninstall. Did I completely remove all tracks of Symantec? I don't know did not check. I did install Nod after uninstalling NIS and had no problems with Nod. As I'm typing this I checked NIS it's using a little over 7 megs of Ram. No kidding NIS runs very light.

[lodore]

install took around 40seconds. update around 1-3min and that was it.
i just moved norton account to the side and later on typed in random data.
it has improved with install speed,scan speed but but not i would trust it.
didnt try uninstall just restored an image lol. so i cannot comment on uninstall.

[Ed_H]

-{ Quote: "Lol. Installing 4 minutes - yes , but I asked Install + update .

On my testing on fresh XP SP3 (1.86 Ghz dual-core processor , 1 Gb RAM) , it is still the same . Yes , it installed much faster than previous Nortons but still slow . Moreover , I took me so long to create their stupid Norton account before even trying to update . The updates were so big that you can't even imagine , the download - so slugginsh . Count how many minutes were needed ... About about restart after update - sometimes they require it.
" }-


- Everyone's experience is different. On my laptop (2.2 Ghz core 2 duo, 3 GB ram, Vista Home Premium SP1) it took about 5 minutes to install, create an account, update and re-boot. Seemed OK to me.

- Updates sometimes require a re-boot but other AV's do this as well, like Kaspersky.

- Uninstall...still a question for me.

- NIS 2009 runs lighter on my laptop than ESS, Avira and KIS. Everything is quicker.

[Zeena]

ffreedom01 :)

Only just noticed this..

-{ Quote: "NIS 2009 runs lighter on my laptop than ESS, Avira and KIS. Everything is quicker." }-

Re : Your NIS 09 Uninstall Problem

Are you sure all of KIS got uninstalled?
Why I ask...
Terrible memories of installing a Trial of KIS .. On my old XP :argh:
KIS didn't install properly!
It Didn't Uninstall Properly Either ::)
At The Time... There was No - KIS Removal Tool
I ended up having to do a Full Recovery of my Computer :'(

Just Thinking... You Never Know!
Bits and pieces of old security software ... Can cause problems :(

Just Thought I'd add...
People carry on about Norton not uninstalling properly.
But I've heard just as many ( uninstall ) horror stories about lots of different security software.
e.g.
AVG
Comodo
And many others! ::)

[Ed_H]

-{ Quote: "ffreedom01 :)

Only just noticed this..



Re : Your NIS 09 Uninstall Problem

Are you sure all of KIS got uninstalled?
Why I ask...
Terrible memories of installing a Trial of KIS .. On my old XP :argh:
KIS didn't install properly!
It Didn't Uninstall Properly Either ::)
At The Time... There was No - KIS Removal Tool
I ended up having to do a Full Recovery of my Computer :'(

Just Thinking... You Never Know!
Bits and pieces of old security software ... Can cause problems :(

Just Thought I'd add...
People carry on about Norton not uninstalling properly.
But I've heard just as many ( uninstall ) horror stories about lots of different security software.
e.g.
AVG
Comodo
And many others! ::)" }-

Hi Zeena!!!

Prior to installing NIS, I loaded a clean FDISR snapshot that has never had any security software installed so I am sure there are no conflicts and nothing left over.

I also had some problems with KIS/KAV removal several years ago but their current regular uninstall routine works very well. They do have a removal tool as well but I have not had the need to try it out so far.

I am going to try uninstalling NIS again probably tomorrow.

[R3XNebular]

-{ Quote: "Lol. Installing 4 minutes - yes , but I asked Install + update .

On my testing on fresh XP SP3 (1.86 Ghz dual-core processor , 1 Gb RAM) , it is still the same . Yes , it installed much faster than previous Nortons but still slow . Moreover , I took me so long to create their stupid Norton account before even trying to update . The updates were so big that you can't even imagine , the download - so slugginsh . Count how many minutes were needed ... About about restart after update - sometimes they require it.




Lucky guy . What about manually cleaning remnants of the product after reboot. If you think that uninstalling 40 minutes is a normal way to handle things and always using the Symantec NRT is OK , then I agree.


ESET Smart Security installs in less than 2 minutes , requires no reboot , no extra account creating and downloads/installs the updates immediately as a flash without reboot required . ESET updates are much smaller than Norton's , so small that one can hardly notice them.

I really don't wanna start a fight (and comparison) about this but in my opinion you really can't say Norton is light product (at least compare it to other good products such as ESET's , AVIRA's , etc.) . You'll notice the difference . I am sure I did nothing wrong in my testing . I have been working in this area/business for some years and Symantec/Norton have never been light. May be my vision about lightness is different than yours , who knows." }-

I've used ESET Smart Security, Aviras Internet Security and Kaspersky Internet Security, in terms of installing/updating/uninstalling NIS 2009 would take the gold, Avira the Silver and ESET and Kasperksy with the Bronze.
Protection wise thats a dif story, NIS is way lighter then all that I have tried, computer starts up and tray icons load very quickly, when I had avira/kaspersky they would load one Icon per 4 seconds..., ESET loaded fast though but I dont trust its protection based on AV-Comparatives

[Ohmy]

Hi,

This thread makes me wonder

if I should still use KIS. hmmm????

Makes we want to use NIS 2009. :o

[emperordarius]

-{ Quote: "Hi,

This thread makes me wonder

if I should still use KIS. hmmm????

Makes we want to use NIS 2009. :o" }-

Don't do it.

[Ed_H]

-{ Quote: "Don't do it." }-

Because?

[emperordarius]

-{ Quote: "Because?" }-

It would be a downgrade in detection.

[Ed_H]

-{ Quote: "It would be a downgrade in detection." }-

Not according to AV-Comparatives for their on-demand test. I haven't seen any test results yet for pro active ability.

[Zeena]

Hi ffreedom01 :)


If you haven't already uninstalled NIS 09 yet...

Remember!

1/ Check Device Manager before you even start uninstalling - NIS 09
* This Way.. If anything changes - You will know for sure.. NIS 09 or the NRT - Caused it!

2/ Uninstall NIS 09 The Normal Way
* Have You Still Got Internet?
3/ Check - Device Manager
* Anything Got a - ! yellow exclamation mark?
4/ Norton Removal Tool
* Have You Still Got Internet
5/ Check - Device Manager
* Anything Got a - ! yellow exclamation mark?


Note!
If anything does go missing from - Device Manager :argh:
Especially if it's something to do with your Internet Connection.
You should report the problem at the - Norton Forum : http://community.norton.com/norton/


When the NRT took out my Card Reader >:(
After mentioning the problem at other forums.
It turned out..
The NRT had also taken the Card Readers of 2 other people ::)
All 3 of us have HP computers :o


If your Internet goes again :(
OR...
If anything shows a yellow exclamation mark in - Device Manager
First!
Try Restarting your computer :thumb:


Otherwise...


To Reinstall Preinstalled Devices In Device Manager...

1/ Open - Device Manager
2/ Right-Click the Device that isn't working
3/ Click On - Uninstall
4/ Exit - Device Manager
5/ Restart Your Computer
6/ Check - Device Manager Again!
* The Broken Device... Should Now Be Re-Installed - And Working! :D

Warning!
These instructions are only for things that came preinstalled on your computer.


Good Luck! ;)

[Ed_H]

Hi Zeena...

Thanks for following up on this issue.

I think I am going to stick with what I have been doing for about a year now as it has worked without any issues. Every couple of months I alternate between Avira Premium and KIS 2009. I just can't get comfortable enough with NIS to make a change.

[R3XNebular]

-{ Quote: "Hi Zeena...

Thanks for following up on this issue.

I think I am going to stick with what I have been doing for about a year now as it has worked without any issues. Every couple of months I alternate between Avira Premium and KIS 2009. I just can't get comfortable enough with NIS to make a change." }-

I kinda do the same, I just check AV-Comparitives and the Internet security reviews to make my decision, usually toggle between eset/kis/norton/avira (hole in the wallet)

[R3XNebular]

So what's people coupling with NIS 2009 these days, I just reformated and was wondering something to add to NIS 2009

[firzen771]

-{ Quote: "So what's people coupling with NIS 2009 these days, I just reformated and was wondering something to add to NIS 2009" }-

you could add a HIPS or if thats too noisy for u, u can try Zemana Anitlogger.

[R3XNebular]

-{ Quote: "you could add a HIPS or if thats too noisy for u, u can try Zemana Anitlogger." }-

whats a nice light hips.

[Victek123]

-{ Quote: "So what's people coupling with NIS 2009 these days, I just reformatted and was wondering something to add to NIS 2009" }-

I added keyscrambler for keylogger protection. I also run SuperAntiSpyware Pro and Winpatrol Plus - they all get along and there's no big performance hit.