Britain admits plan to spy on all citizens

[SteveTX]

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article4882622.ece

[Meriadoc]

1984. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nineteen_Eighty-Four)

[sukarof]

tbh Isnt this a fact with Echelon since long time ago already? This just gives more "horse trading" power with intelligence between nations to the country who implements this wet dream of former DDR.

Anyway, here in sweden we had the same threat from the big brother but after a heated debate, initiated by the blogosphere (not the main media!), they managed to wake up and influence some yay sayers who dared to go against the party whip so the proposition was sent back for a new consideration. Hopefully something like that happens in Britain too. Good luck!

[stapp]

Perhaps we don't need to worry too much.

In the UK data on discs and laptops, which contain thousands of names, personal and banking details, seem to be lost on trains, left in restaurants and even put on ebay, on a weekly basis. :)

[Meriadoc]

Lol, nice one Stapp ;D

[Cerxes]

Excellent...one have to be firm with the plebs...

/C.

[SteveTX]

{QUOTE-> tbh Isnt this a fact with Echelon since long time ago already? This just gives more "horse trading" power with intelligence between nations to the country who implements this wet dream of former DDR. <-QUOTE}

Echelon only monitors satellite, microwave, and other terrestrial air transmissions.

[sukarof]

{QUOTE-> Echelon only monitors satellite, microwave, and other terrestrial air transmissions. <-QUOTE}

And email. But you´re right I exaggerated echelon a bit.
It has been years since I followed the debate about Echelon so I forgot about what it actually does so I didnt have the facts straight, sorry about that. Echelon isnt (as we know it) as sophisticated as the software/hardware that for example the swedish spy organization aim to use. They can connect the dots and make flow chart of basicly all electronic communication.

[Searching_ _ _]

Hello,

Brits aren't the only ones.

NSA probably uses this to comb the internet;

{QUOTE-> Steve Bannerman, Narus's marketing vice president, said in an interview that the NarusInsight system is "the world's most powerful Internet traffic processing engine." He said it is used to detect worms, as well as to capture information to help authorities stop criminal activity. He said it can track a communication's origin and destination, as well as its content. <-QUOTE}

There is also some cool history at the NSA (http://www.nsa.gov/home_html.cfm) site. Like the history of computers and supercomputers.

[stapp]

{QUOTE-> Perhaps we don't need to worry too much.

In the UK data on discs and laptops, which contain thousands of names, personal and banking details, seem to be lost on trains, left in restaurants and even put on ebay, on a weekly basis. :) <-QUOTE}


Oh dear, there's another disc gone today! Only 100,000 addresses and details of UK service personnel on this unencrypted Ministry of Defence hard drive.

http://security.itproportal.com/articles/2008/10/10/mod-hard-disk-details-100000-army-personnel-goes-missing/

I am finding it difficult to work out how we can be spied on when all the info seems to get lost.

[Meriadoc]

{QUOTE-> Oh dear, there's another disc gone today! <-QUOTE}

{QUOTE-> could contain details of nearly 700,000 current and potential recruits - including passport numbers, addresses, dates of birth, driving licence details and bank account records. <-QUOTE}
Unbelievable! Can you fathom it - and using no encryption!..you would of thought the lesson was learnt by now - in the same artilce they go on to say an average of 1 memory stick, phone or laptop goes missing per month by the MOD and Gov.