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rokko
September 1st, 2008, 02:34 PM
Thanks.:wacko:

ASpace
September 1st, 2008, 03:35 PM
Best is to use ESET Smart Security's firewall in Interactive mode so that you can monitor which programs want to *go out* , where exactly they want to connect to , ports , etc and you can have full control .

ESET Smart Security is all-in-one suit , more or less it includes everything - antivirus , antispyware , firewall and anti-spam protections.

In addition to ESET products , I also use Microsoft's Windows Defender (http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/winfamily/defender/default.mspx) . It works great with most AVs , including ESET NOD32 and ESET Smart Security . However , you don't necessary need to use anything else - just what you find needed. :thumb:

emperordarius
September 1st, 2008, 03:49 PM
SUPERAntiSpyware(possibly the professional version, on real time), MalwareBytes Anti-Malware, BOClean.

rokko
September 1st, 2008, 04:09 PM
Thanks. I just installed SAS Pro 4.20.1046 :thumb:

cupez80
September 1st, 2008, 09:20 PM
use ThreatFire for more protection...

mr_yoda
September 2nd, 2008, 03:05 AM
Do none of these conflict with ESS or slow your system down? I thought you were only supposed to use 1 AV and anti-spyware product on real-time.

I do use MalwareBytes and Spybot S&D as on-demand scanners but nothing else on real-time protection.

emperordarius
September 2nd, 2008, 06:04 AM
Cupez80 is right, since ESS relies ONLY on singnatures and heuristics, you MUST use a behaviour blocker. Good ones are ThreatFire/CyberHawk(free, the last one is lighter on resources) or Mamutu($$)

ASpace
September 2nd, 2008, 12:21 PM
-{ Quote: "ESS relies ONLY on singnatures and heuristics" }-

I must disagree (at least to some extent) . ESS includes 3 protections :
- Antimalware (AV+AS)
- Firewall
- Anti-spam

All 3 combine powers , work together . Anti-spam can reduce not only ads but potentially dangerous emails that look like spam . Antimalware uses patters and different heuristic techniques (emulation , generic signatures , etc - more here (http://download.eset.com/manuals/ra_ovw.pdf) , pages 1 to 5) . Firewall is great - in Interactive mode it allows users to create their own rules and have control over the situation about what is coming in and what goes out , where it goes or comes from , what ports shall be used , what program is going to perform the action , etc)

All 3 combined give very high protection rate

emperordarius
September 2nd, 2008, 01:00 PM
-{ Quote: "I must disagree (at least to some extent) . ESS includes 3 protections :
- Antimalware (AV+AS)
- Firewall
- Anti-spam

All 3 combine powers , work together . Anti-spam can reduce not only ads but potentially dangerous emails that look like spam . Antimalware uses patters and different heuristic techniques (emulation , generic signatures , etc - more here (http://download.eset.com/manuals/ra_ovw.pdf) , pages 1 to 5) . Firewall is great - in Interactive mode it allows users to create their own rules and have control over the situation about what is coming in and what goes out , where it goes or comes from , what ports shall be used , what program is going to perform the action , etc)

All 3 combined give very high protection rate" }-

The MALWARE/SPYWARE detection relies only on those methods. I was not talking about other components. They're using signatures and heuristics only. That's an outdated approach nowadays IMO.

ASpace
September 2nd, 2008, 02:35 PM
-{ Quote: "The MALWARE/SPYWARE detection relies only on those methods. I was not talking about other components. They're using signatures and heuristics only. That's an outdated approach nowadays IMO." }-

Relatively outdated techniques but all AV products (malware/spyware detection) use them to find threats . Other modules (behavious analysis , firewalls) also help protect the machine and detect new threats

emperordarius
September 2nd, 2008, 08:31 PM
-{ Quote: "Relatively outdated techniques but all AV products (malware/spyware detection) use them to find threats . Other modules (behavious analysis , firewalls) also help protect the machine and detect new threats" }-

I'm just saying that the approach Signature+Heuristic only is outdated. I don't say that the techniques themselves are outdated. It's easy to bypass signatures and heuristics. Just hex editing and packing. Even a script kiddie can do that. While hex editing and packing won't be able to bypass behaviour blocking/HIPS functions easily. A "modern" approach is Signature+Heuristic+Behaviour Blocking/HIPS or just Signature + Behaviour blokcin/HIPS is the Behaviour blokcin/HIPS module is very strong.

Hibiscus
September 3rd, 2008, 08:32 AM
Thanks rokko for starting this thread. I have the following :-

AVGAS (paid for), Windows Defender (Free), Spyware Blaster (Free), Superantispyware (Free), Lavasoft Ad-Aware (Free), Spybot and CCleaner.

Is this overkill and would I be better off using MalwareBytes Anti-malware and/or Threatfire and getting rid of some of the others.

Thanks for reading this.

suziedog
September 3rd, 2008, 09:41 AM
I use Spybot & CC without any conflicts.

alphadog
September 3rd, 2008, 09:47 AM
What else to use with ESS?

Aspirin, or your prefered headache remedy. I'm partial to two fingers of whisky...

rokko
September 3rd, 2008, 03:32 PM
Hi Hibiscus, I think so too, thread in need.

Is it expedient to add ThreatFire to ESS+SASPro?

rokko
September 3rd, 2008, 04:53 PM
Hi alphadog, very nice comment:thumb: :thumb: :thumb:

But which aspirin, paid or free ? ;D ;D ;D

DanL
September 3rd, 2008, 06:08 PM
I think rokko is wanting to hear from people who are actually using eset smart security,
and what other programs are compatible with it.

I'm also curious.