What would be your 2nd choice

[Albinoni]

I'm sure if I were to ask most here whats your favourite or what do you think the best FW is, most if not 90% here would say Comodo. But if you were given a 2nd choice what would it be.

[ankupan]

Hey,

I m in another 10% and will not give vote to Comodo.

My favorite is Online Armor and LooknStop.

[Albinoni]

-{ Quote: "Hey,

I m in another 10% and will not give vote to Comodo.

My favorite is Online Armor and LooknStop." }-

Fair enough and everyone is entitled to their opinion. I would love to try Online Armor but at the moment Vista doesnt support it.

[jrmhng]

Not everyone here loved Comodo. Where did you get that idea from anyway?

[Albinoni]

-{ Quote: "Not everyone here loved Comodo. Where did you get that idea from anyway?" }-

Wasnt an idea more so a thought and I thought Comodo was one of the most loved FW here.

[Pain of Salvation]

Well, for me comodo is 2º, outpost is 1º.

[Creer]

I vote for:

1. Online Armor

-{ Quote: "Fair enough and everyone is entitled to their opinion. I would love to try Online Armor but at the moment Vista doesnt support it." }-
Vista is supported by new Online Armor Beta v3 http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=216843
Beta works without any problems on my XP.

[gerardwil]

-{ Quote: "I'm sure if I were to ask most here whats your favourite or what do you think the best FW is, most if not 90% here would say Comodo. But if you were given a 2nd choice what would it be." }-

Your question is more or less like:

If Comodo (which one?) does not exists what would be you choice?
And then we are back on: What's the best Firewall.
And that is not allowed here.


Gerard

[Fly]

-{ Quote: "I'm sure if I were to ask most here whats your favourite or what do you think the best FW is, most if not 90% here would say Comodo. But if you were given a 2nd choice what would it be." }-

I'd probably be inclined to pick the LooknStop firewall, although I have never tried it, and I would test it to form an opinion.

[n8chavez]

-{ Quote: "Your question is more or less like:

If Comodo (which one?) does not exists what would be you choice?
And then we are back on: What's the best Firewall.
And that is not allowed here.


Gerard" }-

That is not true. I wish everyone would get their facts straight before posting stuf like this. What forum are we in? We are not in the 'other ant-virus' forum, which is the only place a vs. b threads are not allowed.

[tipstir]

Comodo Pro has one bug it can't be use on real networks running more than 2 PCs as with other firewalls you can. Plus why would you use that to hose your system.

[gerardwil]

-{ Quote: "That is not true. I wish everyone would get their facts straight before posting stuf like this. What forum are we in? We are not in the 'other ant-virus' forum, which is the only place a vs. b threads are not allowed." }-

Sorry, I am not sure what you are telling me in your answer.
I only give a personal opinion. And yes you are right: no facts. Which one's do you expect? I know in what Forum we are, no doubts about that.
Cheers,

Gerard

[tipstir]

-{ Quote: "That is not true. I wish everyone would get their facts straight before posting stuf like this. What forum are we in? We are not in the 'other ant-virus' forum, which is the only place a vs. b threads are not allowed." }-

I've notice you use the Sandboxie which I use, but these other software listed below your sig like the ones in bold are only used once correct? Does Secure-it really stop malware from attaching itself onto the system? You ever use Regprot?



Hardeners: Harden-it, Secure-it, Seconfig XP, Bugoff, WWDC, XPY

[Peter2150]

The A vs B policy is only for the Anti-Virus forum. That being said, a thread of that type would be as equally useless here as in the Antivirus forum.

Plus IMHO, the whole promise of this thread is a bit wacky. It assumes Comodo, is no. 1 and I am not sure that is true or matters for that fact.

Pete

[n8chavez]

-{ Quote: "I've notice you use the Sandboxie which I use, but these other software listed below your sig like the ones in bold are only used once correct? Does Secure-it really stop malware from attaching itself onto the system? You ever use Regprot?



Hardeners: Harden-it, Secure-it, Seconfig XP, Bugoff, WWDC, XPY" }-

In the interest on not hijacking this thread, please feel free to PM me, or start another thread, and I will be hapy to discuss this further with you. But this thread is about Comodo and 2nd choices, as faulty a premise as it might be.

[tipstir]

-{ Quote: "In the interest on not hijacking this thread, please feel free to PM me, or start another thread, and I will be hapy to discuss this further with you. But this thread is about Comodo and 2nd choices, as faulty a premise as it might be." }-


Thanks...

[eBBox]

Nr 1 - Definatly Outpost 2009
Nr 2 - Norton (Integrated in NIS)

[virtumonde]

The best for now for me is outpost 2009.
Others that i like and used,are kerio 2.15,sygate,comodo both 2&3,the firewall from kis7,sphinx vista firewall addon.jetico.

[rogervernon]

I've just played with Rising FW and it seems OK to me!

[Mrkvonic]

Hello,
In Windows, my choice no.2 would be Kerio 2.1.5.
You all know my choice no.1.
Mrk

[bellgamin]

An SPI-capable router is all that's really needed.

[Beavenburt]

Comodo comes no where near top for me. In fact I hate it. I think a firewall should be simple and perform it's primary function well - INBOUND protection.
I haven't got a favourite but my top three in no particular order is Windows Firewall, Sygate and Kerio 2.

[Ghost_ARCHER]

1 Online armor free
2 Jetico 1

The organization of GUI:
1. Jetico
2. Online armor

Jetico 1 will be my favorite if there is some tool to make the maintenance of rules easier

And I only like free ones ;D

I have to keep my live with xp as long as possible

[mvdu]

Does Comodo really have inbound problems? I have seen a couple reports at the Comodo forums of people being hacked, and I haven't seen that at other firewall forums. I'm considering which firewall to use, so any input here?

[Seer]

-{ Quote: "That is not true. I wish everyone would get their facts straight before posting stuf like this. What forum are we in? We are not in the 'other ant-virus' forum, which is the only place a vs. b threads are not allowed." }-

It is not just a case where threads of certain types are technically allowed or not, but also about the point of discussion in a thread. If such discussion is banned on the AV board, shouldn't that tell you something?

-{ Quote: "An SPI-capable router is all that's really needed." }-

That would depend on what you need.

-{ Quote: "Does Comodo really have inbound problems?" }-

All firewalls have inbound problems. It's nothing unusual.

-{ Quote: "I have seen a couple reports at the Comodo forums of people being hacked" }-

Really? Where? (A link...)

-{ Quote: "I'm considering which firewall to use, so any input here?" }-

Which OS? 32 or 64? A new thread should serve you better.

[mvdu]

Here's a link:

http://forums.comodo.com/leak_testingattacksvulnerability_research/hacked-t25540.0.html

It could just be the user's configuration, though. I'm trying Comodo now and it seems good.

[Osaban]

I don't love or hate any firewall. I do have Comodo with Defense+ on my Vista laptop, and contrary to what I often read about it in the past, it is very light, its HIPS module works very well as an anti-executable and more. It's a keeper for me (IMO Comodo should charge for it, people have no respect for free applications).

My second choice is Look'n'Stop which I have been running on my XP machine for 3 years, very basic, very light as expected, also a keeper.

I always wanted to try Online Armour, but unfortunately there is no Vista version yet. My next machine will probably have it.

Albinoni's 90 % estimate about Comodo's popularity should be adjusted to 24% according to the ongoing firewall poll among Wilders' members, still leading compared to the rest.

[blacknight]

Honestly it's difficult for me to understand the diatribe about what is or not is allowed to post in this thread. ;D Anyway, hoping to be right, I say the mine: I like a router firewall and Outpost as software firewall.

[pc20571]

-{ Quote: "Honestly it's difficult for me to understand the diatribe about what is or not is allowed to post in this thread. ;D Anyway, hoping to be right, I say the mine: I like a router firewall and Outpost as software firewall. " }-

:thumb: Exactly the same holds for me.
1) Hardwall Firewall and 2) Outpost Firewall Pro 2009.

[Tunerz]

1. Hardware Firewall
2. PC Tools Firewall Plus

[halcyon]

For me it's all about resource efficiency and tweakability. With that in mind and some historical baggage to carry along, it's Look'n'Stop. Not very good in outbound filtering, because that's not what it tries to do. However, it is extremely light on resources and won't kill your network bandwidth, like almost everything else out there.

[mlr1m]

I'm just using the Vista firewall and a router. If someone ever makes another firewall with all the capabilities of the old Tiny Personal Firewall I will give it a try.

Michael

[Fajo]

-{ Quote: "For me it's all about resource efficiency and tweakability. With that in mind and some historical baggage to carry along, it's Look'n'Stop. Not very good in outbound filtering, because that's not what it tries to do. However, it is extremely light on resources and won't kill your network bandwidth, like almost everything else out there." }-

Interesting I have never had a problem with ZA killing my 14Mbit connection has good outbound filtering. as for inbound well pretty much all firewalls do that the same. ;) if you want something EXTREMELY Light on resources try windows firewall Outbound filtering sucks but inbound is decent. :blink:

[halcyon]

Fajo,

it's not so much about Internet, but Ethernet throughput. I think matousec's test give for (some) FWs an idea of how much they can affect TCP/UDP perf.

I haven't tried ZA8 myself. Can't comment.

What I have tried are some 'other' FWs that were cpu/memory/eth-throughput hogs comparatively.

I don't like that, although I appreciated the extra layer of protection.

So, for me it's a trade-off , the balance of which I'm constantly experimenting with.

BTW, I'm running a 3.6GHz C2D with 4GB of RAM w/ fast disks and tweaked system and quite little background garbage, but somehow I still manage to find issues with apps that clearly degrade performance with my usage patterns and apps.

Back to topic: My second choice now is Jetico v2, but only tentatively. It'll be late September before I start full testing on that.

[Fajo]

-{ Quote: "Fajo,

it's not so much about Internet, but Ethernet throughput. I think matousec's test give for (some) FWs an idea of how much they can affect TCP/UDP perf.

I haven't tried ZA8 myself. Can't comment.

What I have tried are some 'other' FWs that were cpu/memory/eth-throughput hogs comparatively.

I don't like that, although I appreciated the extra layer of protection.

So, for me it's a trade-off , the balance of which I'm constantly experimenting with.

BTW, I'm running a 3.6GHz C2D with 4GB of RAM w/ fast disks and tweaked system and quite little background garbage, but somehow I still manage to find issues with apps that clearly degrade performance with my usage patterns and apps.

Back to topic: My second choice now is Jetico v2, but only tentatively. It'll be late September before I start full testing on that." }-

I don't trust matousec's opinions at all. they always seem to lean one direction or another but this is just IMO.

as for System usage this computer has been running 27 Days and ZA has used 10.2 min of CPU cycles and Utorrent has been going constalty for those 27 days.. In fact Utorrent had more CPU Usage then ZA

With Gigabit Network thou out the house. I have yet to see any slowdown from ZA or caused by ZA but again this is IMO.

As you are I also see performance drop and pretty much don't expect anything that is slowing down the zippyness of my computer. or anyone of the 5 computers in the house ZA so far is the only one I have tried that don't slow down the connection I tried comodo I want to freaking hit my self in the head with the a bat with the 9+ million pop up's. Outpost was awesome but did not fit my tastes, Online Armor did not get along with my Games. also I felt like it slowed down my File transfers. the list goes on and on for some reason I always come back to ZA. ;D