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Someone
July 25th, 2008, 11:54 PM
Hi

I know most people in this forum dislike Spyware Doctor (and Spy Sweeper) because of their automatic renewal policy, relatively bad support, bloat, more expensive, etc.

But is it actually bad in terms of protection? Has there been any tests on it?

Thanks

PiCo
July 26th, 2008, 06:27 AM
As long as detection is concerned I have found it to be good when I once installed and scanned with the 5th version of Spyware Doctor.

I can't tell for removal though, cause I had a BSoD right after the scan was finished. Sad story from there on :(

Version 6 could be perfect, but I'm traumatized and won't touch it :lurking:

Someone
July 26th, 2008, 09:39 PM
Hi

{QUOTE-> As long as detection is concerned I have found it to be good when I once installed and scanned with the 5th version of Spyware Doctor.

I can't tell for removal though, cause I had a BSoD right after the scan was finished. Sad story from there on :(

Version 6 could be perfect, but I'm traumatized and won't touch it :lurking: <-QUOTE}

So the detection is good?

Thanks

Perman
July 26th, 2008, 10:13 PM
Hi,

most users are shy away from SpySweeper and Spyware Doctor have similar reasons as users of Big SUV or Trucks---they are all in the same class---huge system resources burden.

They should, IMO, at least look at SAS for any guidance.

jmonge
July 26th, 2008, 10:19 PM
{QUOTE-> Hi,

most users are shy away from SpySweeper and Spyware Doctor have similar reasons as users of Big SUV or Trucks---they are all in the same class---huge system resources burden.

They should, IMO, at least look at SAS for any guidance. <-QUOTE}
i think and i said this cause i use(trial)both,that they are good at cleaning up
and blocking malware the only thing negative about those two is that make my laptop slow,maybe cause i need more memory to run the 2 bigzillas:thumb: otherwise they are very good at blocking and cleaning up the bad stuff.

Someone
July 26th, 2008, 10:43 PM
Hi

I know they both use a lot of resources. I also know that SAS is very good and use it myself.

The question I was asking was: in terms of protection only, is Spyware Doctor still a good product?

Thanks

jmonge
July 26th, 2008, 10:57 PM
{QUOTE-> Hi

I know they both use a lot of resources. I also know that SAS is very good and use it myself.

The question I was asking was: in terms of protection only, is Spyware Doctor still a good product?

Thanks <-QUOTE}
my opinion is yes is still good and you know they are working hard to fight againts the bad guys but they have to keep up

emperordarius
July 27th, 2008, 02:46 AM
IMO if you use an AV with good spyware detection you don't need to waste your money in Spy Sweeper or Spyware Doctor, you may use SAS on demand, because it's very light and finds almost everything that the good av may miss. And, it's even a good idea purchasing it, since you get a Lifetime License.

Someone
July 27th, 2008, 03:53 AM
Hi

{QUOTE-> IMO if you use an AV with good spyware detection you don't need to waste your money in Spy Sweeper or Spyware Doctor, you may use SAS on demand, because it's very light and finds almost everything that the good av may miss. And, it's even a good idea purchasing it, since you get a Lifetime License. <-QUOTE}
I mean disregarding the money factor, in terms of protection are they still adequate?

Thanks

emperordarius
July 27th, 2008, 04:35 AM
{QUOTE-> Hi


I mean disregarding the money factor, in terms of protection are they still adequate?

Thanks <-QUOTE}

spyware doctor: From the tests it is getting good results, bu the last time I used it it (last month) it displayed an incredibly huge amount of threats, in reality there were cookies, and some false positives ( it even detected as Trojan Downloader a program a friend of mine made in Visual basic used to download all the images of a webpage to a folder).

about spy sweeper: don't know, was so bloated that I immediately removed it

Someone
July 27th, 2008, 08:53 AM
Hi

{QUOTE-> spyware doctor: From the tests it is getting good results <-QUOTE}
That's what I find so strange. All the tests I've seen (only a few) all seem to say Spyware Doctor is good, yet Wilders doesn't seem to like it at all.

Fly
July 27th, 2008, 01:08 PM
{QUOTE-> Hi

I know most people in this forum dislike Spyware Doctor (and Spy Sweeper) because of their automatic renewal policy, relatively bad support, bloat, more expensive, etc.

But is it actually bad in terms of protection? Has there been any tests on it?

Thanks <-QUOTE}

Aside from the business ethics of the company, and the latest (or another) version of the Spyware Doctor possibly being destructive (like causing crashes, loss of internet connectivity, problems culminating in having to reinstall the OS and your software and data) it probably misses a lot that it shouldn't miss in terms of active (real-time) protection. I used to find spyware/adware all the time when version 3 or 4 were still 'good'.

Since there is no NEED to use Pctools' software, why would you ?

jmonge
July 27th, 2008, 01:10 PM
{QUOTE-> Aside from the business ethics of the company, and the latest (or another) version of the Spyware Doctor possibly being destructive (like causing crashes, loss of internet connectivity, problems culminating in having to reinstall the OS and your software and data) it probably misses a lot that it shouldn't miss in terms of active (real-time) protection. I used to find spyware/adware all the time when version 3 or 4 were still 'good'.

Since there is no NEED to use Pctools' software, why would you ? <-QUOTE}
when you say no need to use pctools'software do you also refer to threatfire?

Fly
July 27th, 2008, 01:21 PM
{QUOTE-> when you say no need to use pctools'software do you also refer to threatfire? <-QUOTE}

I don't really know Threatfire. But surely one can do without ;)

jmonge
July 27th, 2008, 01:54 PM
{QUOTE-> I don't really know Threatfire. But surely one can do without ;) <-QUOTE}
i agree,it is not big deal anyway.
note:my own experience.

Someone
July 28th, 2008, 03:13 AM
Hi

{QUOTE-> it probably misses a lot that it shouldn't miss in terms of active (real-time) protection. <-QUOTE}
That's why I'm confused. In the tests I've seen, Spyware Doctor gets very good scores.

{QUOTE-> Since there is no NEED to use Pctools' software, why would you ? <-QUOTE}
There's no need to use any software.:)
But I was just curious. I do not plan to use Spyware Doctor on my own computer any time soon.

Thanks

Someone
July 28th, 2008, 03:14 AM
{QUOTE-> I don't really know Threatfire. But surely one can do without ;) <-QUOTE}

IMHO, ThreatFire is one of the best "smart" behavioural blockers, so it does not have constant alerts.

The Hammer
July 28th, 2008, 01:04 PM
{QUOTE-> Hi

I know most people in this forum dislike Spyware Doctor (and Spy Sweeper) because of their automatic renewal policy, relatively bad support, bloat, more expensive, etc.

But is it actually bad in terms of protection? Has there been any tests on it?

Thanks <-QUOTE}PCmag says they tested it. http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,2326198,00.aspThey say it's their favorite antispyware app.

emperordarius
July 28th, 2008, 02:34 PM
{QUOTE-> PCmag says they tested it. http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,2326198,00.aspThey say it's their favorite antispyware app. <-QUOTE}

CNET did some tests too, in fact the Editor's review was closer to reality:

{QUOTE-> in our trial scans, Spyware Doctor repeatedly flagged several dozen harmless cookies as potential threats, more than any other antispyware product we tested. We were also unable to learn more about each threat or why Spyware Doctor flagged each. Clicking each threat opened our default browser to a generic threat page on the PCTools site.

Should you decide to remove the Spyware Doctor trial, the uninstall process isn't clean, leaving behind traces of PCTools software in both the directory and in the system registry <-QUOTE}

In another test in CNET:

{QUOTE->

In the first test, active detection, PCTools Spyware Doctor detected 70 percent of the spyware; in the second, on demand test, PCTools Spyware Doctor detected 75 percent of the spyware; however, in the removal test, PCTools Spyware Doctor removed all traces for only 30 percent of the spyware in our test, thus lowering its overall score.

<-QUOTE}

It obtained a 6.3/10 rating. Doesn't seem that good to me. And I guess that many users dislike the product, considering the average 3/10 user rating int the CNET review and lots of other bad reviews in Download.com

Fly
July 28th, 2008, 03:23 PM
{QUOTE-> IMO if you use an AV with good spyware detection you don't need to waste your money in Spy Sweeper or Spyware Doctor, you may use SAS on demand, because it's very light and finds almost everything that the good av may miss. And, it's even a good idea purchasing it, since you get a Lifetime License. <-QUOTE}

Lifetime License ? Maybe we should question the duration of 'life' ::)

Fly
July 28th, 2008, 03:27 PM
{QUOTE-> Hi


That's why I'm confused. In the tests I've seen, Spyware Doctor gets very good scores.


There's no need to use any software.:)
But I was just curious. I do not plan to use Spyware Doctor on my own computer any time soon.

Thanks <-QUOTE}

You can't really rely on the (electronic) magazines. Testing is often mediocre (and funded by the company that makes the product!).

emperordarius
July 28th, 2008, 03:34 PM
{QUOTE-> Lifetime License ? Maybe we should question the duration of 'life' ::) <-QUOTE}

Let's say a lifetime license at lower price;D

Edwin024
July 28th, 2008, 04:12 PM
I have the SAS lifetime license since somewhere in 2006.. That's almost three years now. Good enough already, isn't it?

Someone
July 29th, 2008, 03:07 AM
Hi

{QUOTE-> You can't really rely on the (electronic) magazines. Testing is often mediocre (and funded by the company that makes the product!). <-QUOTE}
I think you're right.

Thanks for all the responses!

GES/POR
July 29th, 2008, 07:10 AM
Look the main reason Wilders peeps don't use the most famous progs is that they r the most bypassable by malware. Also they use much more resources and sometimes unnecisary features to get less done then some underdog competitors who like to keep things simple but effective at a lower price.

Last time i used SD max tweaked it showed hundreds of fp's! In my book that seems rogue at least to me.

Victek123
July 29th, 2008, 11:48 AM
{QUOTE-> Hi

I know most people in this forum dislike Spyware Doctor (and Spy Sweeper) because of their automatic renewal policy, relatively bad support, bloat, more expensive, etc.

But is it actually bad in terms of protection? Has there been any tests on it?

Thanks <-QUOTE}

The new version 6 received a very positive review on PCMAG.com. I say read that review and make up your own mind (I don't automatically disbelieve reviews because they are on electronic magazine sites). You can also install the new version in "trial" mode to see how it impacts your system. In trial mode you get full real-time protection (you can also scan for malware, but you can't remove it). Regarding uninstalling I recommend using Revo Uninstaller. Virtually all programs leave some bits behind that Revo will catch.

Someone
July 30th, 2008, 06:31 AM
Hi

{QUOTE-> The new version 6 received a very positive review on PCMAG.com. I say read that review and make up your own mind (I don't automatically disbelieve reviews because they are on electronic magazine sites). You can also install the new version in "trial" mode to see how it impacts your system. In trial mode you get full real-time protection (you can also scan for malware, but you can't remove it). Regarding uninstalling I recommend using Revo Uninstaller. Virtually all programs leave some bits behind that Revo will catch. <-QUOTE}
I don't know how good the test really is, but I think in trial mode you still have limited signatures.

Thanks