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PROROOTECT
July 23rd, 2008, 02:16 PM
Windows SteadyState , v. 2.5 , 6.5 Mo . FREE ! from Microsoft , for Windows XP and W. Vista . User - friendly configuration of restrictions ( to tick off ...) .
Includes Windows Disk Protection , a utility that is similar to Centurion Guard or DeepFreeze . The Windows Disk Protection feature requires a minimum of 4 GB of free space on your system partition for the cache it uses to save temporary changes to the hard drive . By default , the cache will use 50 % of available disk space ...
If disk protection is On when they install a new program , any problems the program causes won't become permanent . Even a complete uninstall of a faulty program is only a reboot away . And viruses , and malwares - outside !
Look to Google : Introduction to Windows SteadyState (www.webjunction.org ) by Chris Peters .
The pros and cons ...? Thanks , PROROOTECT
Bubba
July 23rd, 2008, 02:20 PM
{QUOTE-> Look to Google : Introduction to Windows SteadyState (www.webjunction.org ) by Chris Peters <-QUOTE}How about I simply supply the link to the webjunction article instead of jumping thru hoops.
Introduction to Windows SteadyState By Chris Peters (http://www.webjunction.org/do/DisplayContent?id=16953)
zopzop
July 23rd, 2008, 02:30 PM
this sounds great and all but how effective is it? for example there exists malware that defeats virtualization software like this (see the robodog type).
and unless i'm mistaken returnil does mostly the same thing without eating 4 gigs of your HD space.
Makav3l1
July 25th, 2008, 12:38 AM
Does it only virtualize one drive (if so, can you choose which one)? Does anyone know when the vista version comes out? Does it work with raids? I didn't see the answers to these questions in the link, any info would be appreciated.
EASTER
July 25th, 2008, 12:48 AM
I agree.
Returnil in comparison is not only a safer alternative but the offer itself smells of strings attached. And not only RoboDog, but how can it hold up to other similar attacks.
Returnil can use memory vitualization, does steady-state also make this claim?
Deep Freeze/Power Shadow are proven performers.
No answers to very valid questions leaves wide open doubts among other matters, plus i never once seen anything MS that didn't cause problems in one form or another fashion. Obviously they are trying to pit this app up against other much better AND SAFER (stable) proven programs.
EASTER
innerpeace
July 25th, 2008, 02:40 AM
This is the revamped Windows Shared Computer Toolkit and can be found here http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/winfamily/sharedaccess/default.mspx.
It looks like it now supports Vista. See the system requirements here: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/winfamily/sharedaccess/install/default.mspx
Also, iirc it will also allow you to carry changes across reboots.
djohn
July 25th, 2008, 02:50 AM
lets not forget Shadow Defender another goodie.
TerryWood
July 25th, 2008, 10:49 AM
Hi All
I don't see any detailed commentary in the links provided. Certainly not as is normal in Wilders.
I would welcome some comments indeed comparisons with Shadowdefender Returnil etc.
Or are we all assuming that anything Microsoft is bad news?
Terry
djohn
July 25th, 2008, 06:10 PM
I will not say microsoft is bad but Returnil,shadow Defender and the like has proven its security worthyness.Beside the fact I need no more microsoftware, windows is enough for me.;)
MrBrian
July 25th, 2008, 06:29 PM
Pros:
-free
-changes can survive reboot but later discarded
Cons:
-needs cache file, which can't be relocated, at least in the older version 2.0 that I tested
-may affect your bootup time in the reboot after protection is turned off
KikiBibi
July 25th, 2008, 10:32 PM
I like it.
User friendly with yes-no options.
Logging on to user account is very slow though.
At least it won't suddenly be discontinued/bought over/becomes free to paid like the other softwares.
edit: seems one of my security software, not steadystate is slowing down my logon.
aigle
July 26th, 2008, 01:21 PM
If u use it as only ISR, not as users control, disabling a service( ? for shared users) makes boot up real fast.One user posted this tip in the past and it worked so amazingly in my experience.
Osaban
July 26th, 2008, 09:41 PM
I liked it when I tried it for a while. The only reason I didn't keep it was that transition times between reboots were far too long (3- 6 minutes from memory, depending on the type of reboot) compared to applications like Returnil and DeepFreeze. It has a very important feature of retaining changes across reboots, for people who are testing programs.
Hairy Coo
July 27th, 2008, 01:16 AM
Should have been named UnsteadyState ::)
In my case-a complete disaster and needed an image restore .
Checked it to see if it could handle software testing.
It claims to either delete changes after restart,save changes temporarily or permanently-all brilliant ideas.
Has that clunky MS feel about it
Boot/startup time was about 5 times slower,also shutdown seemed to slow down
Hope my experience isnt typical
Peter2150
July 27th, 2008, 08:37 AM
I took a look at it, but to me it had the feel of using a bull dozer to dig a 1 foot by 1 foot by 1 foot hole.
Shadowdefender/Returnil do the job much lighter and if I really need to reboot during an install then either an image/rollback or vm machine work fine.
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