NIS 2008

[Howard Kaikow]

Opinions on NIS 2008 on Vista?

I'm getting a free copy because I purchased NIS 2007 and never used the critter.

[denniz]

I'm using NIS 2008 on Vista 32-bit and I like it. It runs real smooth, has a nice feature set and is easy to use. With standard settings NIS 2008 is super silent, it never asks you anything and takes care of itself. But for the people who prefer it, you can also tweak the settings so that NIS 2008 will often show confirmation pop-ups where the user can decide what to do.

[Howard Kaikow]

-{ Quote: "I'm using NIS 2008 on Vista 32-bit and I like it. It runs real smooth, has a nice feature set and is easy to use. With standard settings NIS 2008 is super silent, it never asks you anything and takes care of itself. But for the people who prefer it, you can also tweak the settings so that NIS 2008 will often show confirmation pop-ups where the user can decide what to do." }-

Thanx.

Previously, I;ve always used a plain AV, not an IS, so Iwill have to twrak quite a bit.

Is it possible to eliminate the Norton Protection Center, or is that no longer in the product?

[Victek123]

-{ Quote: "I'm using NIS 2008 on Vista 32-bit and I like it. It runs real smooth, has a nice feature set and is easy to use. With standard settings NIS 2008 is super silent, it never asks you anything and takes care of itself. But for the people who prefer it, you can also tweak the settings so that NIS 2008 will often show confirmation pop-ups where the user can decide what to do." }-

I agree that it's a good choice for those who want a product that is mostly silent. You do have to remember to check the firewall if you have connection problems though. Sometimes it will make incorrect choices and block things it shouldn't. Whenever people running NIS have connection problems I always turn off the firewall to see if the problem goes away. If it does then I go in and tweak specific application settings.

[denniz]

-{ Quote: "Thanx.

Previously, I;ve always used a plain AV, not an IS, so Iwill have to twrak quite a bit.

Is it possible to eliminate the Norton Protection Center, or is that no longer in the product?
" }-

I never used NIS 2007, but there is something called Norton Protection Center in NIS 2008, it looks like this:

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[Howard Kaikow]

-{ Quote: "I agree that it's a good choice for those who want a product that is mostly silent. You do have to remember to check the firewall if you have connection problems though. Sometimes it will make incorrect choices and block things it shouldn't. Whenever people running NIS have connection problems I always turn off the firewall to see if the problem goes away. If it does then I go in and tweak specific application settings." }-

Actually, I gave up on Norton back with NAV 6 and Ghost 10,
Too buggy and, worse, intrusive.

I would turn off a lot of the stuff in an IS, such as spam and phishing filters, and, if present, the Norton Protection Zone.

I really want nothing more than AV and firewall protection.

Trial version of NIS 2008 came pre-installed on a notebook I purchased on 31 May 2008. Symantec is giving me a free 1 year (3 system) license since I have an unused retail NIS 2007 license.

[Howard Kaikow]

-{ Quote: "I never used NIS 2007, but there is something called Norton Protection Center in NIS 2008, it looks like this:
" }-

THanx, looks like I have to do my homework.
I was not impressed with the NIS 2008 manual I downloaded today.
Hopefully, there's more info on the CD.

[denniz]

-{ Quote: "Actually, I gave up on Norton back with NAV 6 and Ghost 10,
I would turn off a lot of the stuff in an IS, such as spam and phishing filters, and, if present, the Norton Protection Zone.

I really want nothing more than AV and firewall protection.
" }-

If you want both the firewall and the AV, then I recommend leaving all protection options on. They really don't bother you at all, and are integrated nicely with each other.

Here's a screenshot of the options:

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[denniz]

The network map is also nice, since NIS 2008 has a license which allows you to install it on 3 computers, NIS 2008 will detect other NIS 2008 versions on your home network. Off course you can disable this feature if you don't like it.

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[bigc73542]

Norton 2008 is what I am running on my Vista Home Premium and it runs very very light and seems to be doing a good job. I would highly recommend it.

bigc

[emperordarius]

Tried for a while on Vista Business. Interface is fine, system resources usage is low enough , Detection...I don't even want to talk about it:thumbd: .

[bigc73542]

-{ Quote: "Tried for a while on Vista Business. Interface is fine, system resources usage is low enough , Detection...I don't even want to talk about it:thumbd: ." }-


Just curious as to where you get your information that Nortons detection rate is subpar. All of the testing sites and reviews I hav seen and read seem to contradict your thoughts. Actually Nortons detections are very good. Even the older versions of norton had good detections they just ran heavy on the machine. But now Norton has fixed the heavy resource use and now has a good product.

bigc

[denniz]

-{ Quote: "Detection...I don't even want to talk about it:thumbd: ." }-

Care to share where you got this information? All the reviews I read showed that Norton's detection is actually quite good. It may not be the best, but even for the so-called "best" products often mentioned here on Wilders I've read some "bad" reviews...

[emperordarius]

-{ Quote: "Care to share where you got this information? All the reviews I read showed that Norton's detection is actually quite good. It may not be the best, but even for the so-called "best" products often mentioned here on Wilders I've read some "bad" reviews..." }-

I don't want to say bad things about those reviews, but my experience with Symantec is different. Instalation was fine, no errors at all. The computer ran faster than v 2007. And the scan, very fast too. I installed it on my father's business computer. No virus warnings. Automatic updating ran fine. Then my father told me that his computer started running slowly, and every time he run windows a file called temp.exe "had encountered an error and needed to close". I also noticed some worms in his USB, that Symantec didn't find. Full system scan also showed only a few tracking cookies. I decided to try something else. I installed the AVPTool, run a scan. 120 trojans found. Run Ewido Anti Spyware, other 34 backdoors found. Took Avira, to scan the USB. 345 worms found.

I don't how reviewers test their software, but this is not the first time that I experience this type of things with Symantec Products. I have this problems on my school computers, Norton Endpoint Security Installed, updated, and our USB flash drives continue to get infected every day. On the PCs of a lot of my friends, (using Norton 2008) over 50 trojans are always found.

This is my experience, and I'm not lying. I had nothing against Symantec, until I found it virtually useless on every PC I found it. Still every day, I test every new version of it, but I don't see any big improvement. Sometimes some heuristic improvement, but still very small (the only heuristic detection I saw was a false positive).

That's why I would never reccomend Symantec as an antivirus, (not even if it had a lifetime license) as well as other antiviruses with which I had similar experiences, but that I don't think I'm allowed to mention.

*One last thing. The only website that my father opened was Yahoo! Mail.*

That's all I had to say.

[mike21]

-{ Quote: "

I really want nothing more than AV and firewall protection.

" }-

We are close I also want AV, FW and hips. Everything else is just unnecessary CPU load (for me).

-{ Quote: "
Trial version of NIS 2008 came pre-installed on a notebook I purchased on 31 May 2008. Symantec is giving me a free 1 year (3 system) license since I have an unused retail NIS 2007 license.
" }-

Sorry for the out of topic, but I have 3 unused (in the box) Norton Anti-Virus 2003, in my company. Can I also exchange them with something? I know that I react to this a bit late (eh 5 years ::) ) but you reminded me of it and I thought I maybe get a new license in exchange of 3 boxed Norton 2003 or are they completely useless now?

[Howard Kaikow]

-{ Quote: "
Sorry for the out of topic, but I have 3 unused (in the box) Norton Anti-Virus 2003, in my company. Can I also exchange them with something? I know that I react to this a bit late (eh 5 years ::) ) but you reminded me of it and I thought I maybe get a new license in exchange of 3 boxed Norton 2003 or are they completely useless now?" }-

In the case of NIS/NAV 2007, which required XP, the offer was for a free upgrade to a version that suppoted Vista.

As I recall, I purchased NIS 2007 in Nov 2006.
Since it was unused, Symantec gave me a free upgrade to 2008.

As far as an upgrade from 2003 is concerned, don't be bashful, call Symantec and ask. Worst thing, they say no.

[eBBox]

-{ Quote: "
As far as an upgrade from 2003 is concerned, don't be bashful, call Symantec and ask. Worst thing, they say no." }-

Your right there :argh: :thumb:

Guess im one of the few that hasent had any infections with norton ;)

Btw. why cant we ever have any Norton threat without been overrun by some peopele who only wish to complain about (I've seen a lot infected computers with more and and less known brands protecting - but that dosent make me join every thread concerning them and talk about that. There's no point in that). I have an idea - make a "Norton bash thread" and every time you want to complain - go there and bash all you want. Then the mature people can discuss their toppics in peace without all these off-topic-bashing-thread destructive comments.

Just an idea ::)

[denniz]

-{ Quote: "I installed the AVPTool, run a scan. 120 trojans found. Run Ewido Anti Spyware, other 34 backdoors found. Took Avira, to scan the USB. 345 worms found.

*One last thing. The only website that my father opened was Yahoo! Mail.*

That's all I had to say." }-

All that from using Yahoo mail? I wonder what kind of emails he got... :o

[Bunkhouse Buck]

-{ Quote: "Your right there :argh: :thumb:

Guess im one of the few that hasent had any infections with norton ;)

Btw. why cant we ever have any norton threat without been overrun by some peopele who only wish to complain about. I have an idea - make a "Norton bash thread" and every time you want to complain - go there and bash all you want. Then the mature people can discuss their toppics in peace without all these off-topic-bashing-thread destructive comments.

Just an idea ::)" }-

Most are jealous because of Symantec's size and prefer the smaller, boutique AVs promoted often here. I have never had any malware on any system protected by Norton for eight years. The 2008 NIS edition is right up there with the best as far as I am concerned.

[C.S.J]

ive used norton in the past, and never been infected.

...so whats the problem?

surely it cant be system performance anymore?

[lodore]

-{ Quote: "I don't want to say bad things about those reviews, but my experience with Symantec is different. Instalation was fine, no errors at all. The computer ran faster than v 2007. And the scan, very fast too. I installed it on my father's business computer. No virus warnings. Automatic updating ran fine. Then my father told me that his computer started running slowly, and every time he run windows a file called temp.exe "had encountered an error and needed to close". I also noticed some worms in his USB, that Symantec didn't find. Full system scan also showed only a few tracking cookies. I decided to try something else. I installed the AVPTool, run a scan. 120 trojans found. Run Ewido Anti Spyware, other 34 backdoors found. Took Avira, to scan the USB. 345 worms found.

I don't how reviewers test their software, but this is not the first time that I experience this type of things with Symantec Products. I have this problems on my school computers, Norton Endpoint Security Installed, updated, and our USB flash drives continue to get infected every day. On the PCs of a lot of my friends, (using Norton 2008) over 50 trojans are always found.

This is my experience, and I'm not lying. I had nothing against Symantec, until I found it virtually useless on every PC I found it. Still every day, I test every new version of it, but I don't see any big improvement. Sometimes some heuristic improvement, but still very small (the only heuristic detection I saw was a false positive).

That's why I would never reccomend Symantec as an antivirus, (not even if it had a lifetime license) as well as other antiviruses with which I had similar experiences, but that I don't think I'm allowed to mention.

*One last thing. The only website that my father opened was Yahoo! Mail.*

That's all I had to say." }-
i have had the same kind of experiences on my older computer with older versions of norton and also with norton 2008 on my friends computer recently.

[midway40]

I decided to give NIS another go since I never had installed it on my new desktop. So far I haven't noticed any webpage "hang" yet.

But there are features missing in the x64 version:

1. No right-click scanning.
2. No Crimeware detection option.
3. No self-protection option.
4. No suspicious activity monitoring or its advanced mode.

[emperordarius]

-{ Quote: "All that from using Yahoo mail? I wonder what kind of emails he got... :o" }-

Business mail. But nowadays it's enough connecting to open the web browser to get infected..

[mike21]

-{ Quote: "In the case of NIS/NAV 2007, which required XP, the offer was for a free upgrade to a version that suppoted Vista.

As I recall, I purchased NIS 2007 in Nov 2006.
Since it was unused, Symantec gave me a free upgrade to 2008.

As far as an upgrade from 2003 is concerned, don't be bashful, call Symantec and ask. Worst thing, they say no." }-

Here is what I have:


Which is bought from a reseller and never been used. Can you tell me where to call to arrange for a possible exchange?

[Howard Kaikow]

-{ Quote: "I decided to give NIS another go since I never had installed it on my new desktop. So far I haven't noticed any webpage "hang" yet.

But there are features missing in the x64 version:

1. No right-click scanning.
2. No Crimeware detection option.
3. No self-protection option.
4. No suspicious activity monitoring or its advanced mode." }-

Do not know whether Symantec is sending me a 32-bit or 64-bit version.

No right-click scanning would be a showstopper for me, but, due to the expected infrequent interneta ccess of the notebook, I can run full scan each night after the notebook is used on the internet.

Also, I have KAV 7 on my other system. Not sure whether KAV 7 will scan a file on a networked drive.

[Howard Kaikow]

-{ Quote: "Here is what I have:


Which is bought from a reseller and never been used. Can you tell me where to call to arrange for a possible exchange?" }-

Call Symantec Customer Service to plead your case
Telephone varies from country to country.
In the USA, it's 1-800-441-7234.

[ablatt]

I just gave NIS 2008 a little spin last week after using NOD32 3.0 for the last couple of months. I'm running Vista Ultimate 32-bit.

I also found it very light and with lots of good information. The GUI isn't bad, and overall I was pretty impressed.

But as Bunkhouse said, it did bother me that the program is so large on disk, even though it doesn't slow you down. And it doesn't do well in heuristic-based tests like those on av-comparatives.

I'm now trying Antivir Premium 8 and it appears to run fine so far. The GUI interface is pretty simple and doesn't give you as much control as NOD. Also not sure how effective the Webguard is compared to NOD's http scanning.

May go back to NOD32 and will definitely try the supposed kick-ass NIS2009.

[kinwolf]

-{ Quote: " And it doesn't do well in heuristic-based tests like those on av-comparatives." }-

It might not have done great in the latest test but in all the others tests it did well, av-comparative or av-test.org together. Do some research, don't base your opinion only one one test, look at the whole picture over time and you'l see their heuristics ain't bad at all. and please don't turn the thread into a "I tried NIS but now prefer X" thread that will get closed.

[ablatt]

kinwolf, are you a moderator on this forum?

Because, quite frankly, I don't appreciate your tone of voice.

I have done a lot of research and have actually been very positive about NIS 2008.

It may have acceptable or good heuristics, but just not as good as a few others like NOD or Avira.

I am only trying to post useful information and have a dialog with others who have used similar products.

[ronjor]

Stay on the topic "NIS 2008" and no comparisons please.

[denniz]

The following quotes keep popping up in my mind, I'm trying to bend my head around the fact why the people mentioned below get infected with this many malware while having Norton installed, especially in the 1st example when using only Yahoo Business mail.

Often I run secondary on-demand virus-scans with other scanners to double check how Norton is doing it's job, and so far I haven't run into any active virus problems yet.

-{ Quote: "No virus warnings. Automatic updating ran fine. Then my father told me that his computer started running slowly, and every time he run windows a file called temp.exe "had encountered an error and needed to close". I also noticed some worms in his USB, that Symantec didn't find. Full system scan also showed only a few tracking cookies. I decided to try something else. I installed the AVPTool, run a scan. 120 trojans found. Run Ewido Anti Spyware, other 34 backdoors found. Took Avira, to scan the USB. 345 worms found.
" }-
-{ Quote: "I have this problems on my school computers, Norton Endpoint Security Installed, updated, and our USB flash drives continue to get infected every day. On the PCs of a lot of my friends, (using Norton 2008) over 50 trojans are always found.
" }-
-{ Quote: "This is my experience, and I'm not lying. I had nothing against Symantec, until I found it virtually useless on every PC I found it.
" }-
-{ Quote: "
*One last thing. The only website that my father opened was Yahoo! Mail.*
" }-
-{ Quote: "
Business mail. But nowadays it's enough connecting to open the web browser to get infected..
" }-

[emperordarius]

-{ Quote: "The following quotes keep popping up in my mind, I'm trying to bend my head around the fact why the people mentioned below get infected with this many malware while having Norton installed, especially in the 1st example when using only Yahoo Business mail.

Often I run secondary on-demand virus-scans with other scanners to double check how Norton is doing it's job, and so far I haven't run into any active virus problems yet." }-

Only yahoo mail. Using Internet Explorer. As far as I know, my father doesn't open porn pages.

[C.S.J]

please show screenshots of these findings.. missing 300+ worms

... i think someone is telling porkys. ::)

[emperordarius]

-{ Quote: "please show screenshots of these findings.. missing 300+ worms

... i think someone is telling porkys. ::)" }-

You're free not to believe me. I don't have any reason to lie.
I can't give you a screenshot, since I deleted the files from the backup, and since my father's USB doesn't get infected anymore.
But all of my friends could tell similar experiences.

[Bunkhouse Buck]

-{ Quote: "The following quotes keep popping up in my mind, I'm trying to bend my head around the fact why the people mentioned below get infected with this many malware while having Norton installed, especially in the 1st example when using only Yahoo Business mail.

Often I run secondary on-demand virus-scans with other scanners to double check how Norton is doing it's job, and so far I haven't run into any active virus problems yet." }-

You probably won't find a thing Norton allegedly missed (and neither have I) unless your hidden agenda is to promote Kaspersky- and then you must pile on the criticism of Norton which has the market share Kaspersky wants a part of. Looking forward to NIS 2009. :D

[djohn]

HI Howard,Go for it Norton has made improvements on resources and still provide pretty good protection with low false positives and besides a free copy is a good deal.

[lodore]

-{ Quote: "You probably won't find a thing Norton allegedly missed (and neither have I) unless your hidden agenda is to promote Kaspersky- and then you must pile on the criticism of Norton which has the market share Kaspersky wants a part of. Looking forward to NIS 2009. :D" }-
then again bad experience is just bad experience.

[emperordarius]

-{ Quote: "You probably won't find a thing Norton allegedly missed (and neither have I) unless your hidden agenda is to promote Kaspersky- and then you must pile on the criticism of Norton which has the market share Kaspersky wants a part of. Looking forward to NIS 2009. :D" }-

I don't promote Kaspersky. If that was so, I would just show the bad sides of any antiviruses. But I don't. I just show my experience. There are some other antiviruses that I think are good, for the simple fact that they kept my system clean, and effectively removed malware. Norton was not one of those.
But what should I expect from you, you probably got a trial, kept it for 30 days and it looked good...
I judge from real life-experience, not 30 day trials, not reviews, not comparatives.

[larryb52]

-{ Quote: "You're free not to believe me. I don't have any reason to lie.
I can't give you a screenshot, since I deleted the files from the backup, and since my father's USB doesn't get infected anymore.
But all of my friends could tell similar experiences." }-


since you used Avira a program I think is known for false positives I don't know if what your saying is legit. 300? I'd buy 3...

[emperordarius]

-{ Quote: "since you used Avira a program I think is known for false positives I don't know if what your saying is legit. 300? I'd buy 3..." }-

Do you think a file called New Folder.exe in a folder named "New Folder" is legit? And what about data *user*.exe?

Those are CLEAR examples of worms. I don't think that they could be false positive, unless I had created myself all those .exe files. And I sure didn't.

[RobZee]

-{ Quote: "Norton 2008 is what I am running on my Vista Home Premium and it runs very very light and seems to be doing a good job. I would highly recommend it.

bigc" }-

Same here, although I've had my new PC for less than a week and my opinion so far is subjective due to the short time I've used it.

[larryb52]

-{ Quote: "Do you think a file called New Folder.exe in a folder named "New Folder" is legit? And what about data *user*.exe?

Those are CLEAR examples of worms. I don't think that they could be false positive, unless I had created myself all those .exe files. And I sure didn't." }-


all conjecture...like I said I'd believe 3 not 300, some AV's are not good non are that bad...

[Howard Kaikow]

-{ Quote: "I just gave NIS 2008 a little spin last week after using NOD32 3.0 for the last couple of months. I'm running Vista Ultimate 32-bit.

I also found it very light and with lots of good information. The GUI isn't bad, and overall I was pretty impressed.

But as Bunkhouse said, it did bother me that the program is so large on disk, even though it doesn't slow you down. And it doesn't do well in heuristic-based tests like those on av-comparatives.

I'm now trying Antivir Premium 8 and it appears to run fine so far. The GUI interface is pretty simple and doesn't give you as much control as NOD. Also not sure how effective the Webguard is compared to NOD's http scanning.

May go back to NOD32 and will definitely try the supposed kick-ass NIS2009." }-

A negative for NAV in 2006, and earlier, versions was its overhead and intrusiveness, especially with Norton Protection Center enabled.

Also, until recently, I ran only Win 2000, so I was not able to try the 2007/2008 versions, which I've heard are much better.

I purchased a Vista notebook on Saturday that came with a trial of NIS 2008.
As symantec is giving me a free 1 year license, I'll give it a whirl for a while.

I'll definitely disable anything in the Norton Protection Center that I do not want, if it can be disabled.

On my Win 2000 systems, I use Kav 6 and Kav 7, each of which is much lower overhead than NAV 2006.

[emperordarius]

-{ Quote: "all conjecture...like I said I'd believe 3 not 300, some AV's are not good non are that bad..." }-


around 30 variants in each folder.
10 folders.

30+10= around 300 in total (more or less 10 infections).

[Howard Kaikow]

-{ Quote: "You probably won't find a thing Norton allegedly missed (and neither have I) unless your hidden agenda is to promote Kaspersky- and then you must pile on the criticism of Norton which has the market share Kaspersky wants a part of. Looking forward to NIS 2009. :D" }-

Depends on what you mean by "missed".

1. A number of years ago, I got careless, and temporarily turned off NAV (I forget which version), then whilst bored I clicked on a file to see what it was.

Boom! NAV formed that I had gotten infected by a virus, let's call this XYZ.
I dutifully went to the virus encyclopedia at SARC and found that SARC had an incorrect description for the virus. I called tech support, and they were incompetent, insisting the info was correct and charging me for th phone call.

I then went to a Virus encyclopedia at an othe AV company's web site, found th ecorrect info, and removed the virus. I was lucky, it was a simple virus to remove.

Of course, when the phone bill came, I did not pay it.

I consider this a miss because NAV misidentified the virus.

2. When I switched to KAV, a KAV scan did not find additional viri, but it did warn me about riskware that NAV did not. I consider those to be misses, if the programs had been malicious, well ...!

[Howard Kaikow]

-{ Quote: "I don't promote Kaspersky. If that was so, I would just show the bad sides of any antiviruses. But I don't. I just show my experience. There are some other antiviruses that I think are good, for the simple fact that they kept my system clean, and effectively removed malware. Norton was not one of those.
But what should I expect from you, you probably got a trial, kept it for 30 days and it looked good...
I judge from real life-experience, not 30 day trials, not reviews, not comparatives." }-

Not to mention that ALL reviews/comparisions I've seen do not even look at the destructiveness of some AV software. For example, in at least the two versions I tried, a well known AV software silently deletes files and you have no option to turn that off.

With the first version of that product, I dared not scan the system.
With the next version, as I had started using image backups, I scanned the system. I do note recall the exact numbers, but somthing like 14 files were flagged, either 2 or 12 were deleted, I forget which. Bye thee waye, this unnamed product is pre-installed on lots of computers, no, it's not Norton.
So, unless this problem has been fixed in the more recent releasesm ...!

Such an issue MUST be raised in any comparison.

[Bubba]

-{ Quote: "Such an issue MUST be raised in any comparison." }-To no one in particular and as requested earlier (http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?p=1255156#post1255156), let's re-focus the discussion back to "Opinions on NIS 2008 on Vista?" and discontinue the non productive comparison discussion Please.

[midway40]

-{ Quote: "Do not know whether Symantec is sending me a 32-bit or 64-bit version.

No right-click scanning would be a showstopper for me, but, due to the expected infrequent interneta ccess of the notebook, I can run full scan each night after the notebook is used on the internet.

Also, I have KAV 7 on my other system. Not sure whether KAV 7 will scan a file on a networked drive." }-

Howard, if you are running 32 bit you don't have to worry about the features I listed. These features are present in a 32 bit install but not the 64. In fact the installer handles both versions. NIS is not a true 64 bit program however as its processes run in 32 bit mode (these are indicated with *32 in Task Manager).

[Howard Kaikow]

-{ Quote: "Howard, if you are running 32 bit you don't have to worry about the features I listed. These features are present in a 32 bit install but not the 64. In fact the installer handles both versions. NIS is not a true 64 bit program however as its processes run in 32 bit mode (these are indicated with *32 in Task Manager)." }-

i've got a few choics:

1. Use the serial number to activate whateve rHP pre-installed on my notebook.
2. Use the CD to install over the pre-installed critter.
3. Uninstall the pre-installed critter and then re-install from the PC

Hopefully, there will be a manual that covers this.
Of course if Symantec is sending me a CD, I expect that there will be no printed manual, so I should download the NIS 2008 manual.

[midway40]

What do you have installed presently?

[midway40]

You can download the product manual PDF here (http://www.symantec.com/norton/downloads/index.jsp). Scroll down to the Product Manuals and select NIS 2008 in the drop boxes (I noticed they also list a NIS 2008 Premier Edition which I have never heard of).

[Howard Kaikow]

-{ Quote: "What do you have installed presently?" }-
Trial version of NIS 2008, but not yet activated.

[midway40]

Ok, you could just use the NIS '07 key to activate '08 when it comes in. No mess, no fuss :)

[Howard Kaikow]

-{ Quote: "Ok, you could just use the NIS '07 key to activate '08 when it comes in. No mess, no fuss :)" }-

I believe that I could do that now, but I wanna wait to see what Symantec is sending me.

P.S.

I Killed a tree by by printing out the 35 page NIS User Guide.
Do not recall seeing a document with less useful content.

[viethluu]

-{ Quote: "I don't want to say bad things about those reviews, but my experience with Symantec is different. Instalation was fine, no errors at all. The computer ran faster than v 2007. And the scan, very fast too. I installed it on my father's business computer. No virus warnings. Automatic updating ran fine. Then my father told me that his computer started running slowly, and every time he run windows a file called temp.exe "had encountered an error and needed to close". I also noticed some worms in his USB, that Symantec didn't find. Full system scan also showed only a few tracking cookies. I decided to try something else. I installed the AVPTool, run a scan. 120 trojans found. Run Ewido Anti Spyware, other 34 backdoors found. Took Avira, to scan the USB. 345 worms found.

I don't how reviewers test their software, but this is not the first time that I experience this type of things with Symantec Products. I have this problems on my school computers, Norton Endpoint Security Installed, updated, and our USB flash drives continue to get infected every day. On the PCs of a lot of my friends, (using Norton 2008) over 50 trojans are always found.

This is my experience, and I'm not lying. I had nothing against Symantec, until I found it virtually useless on every PC I found it. Still every day, I test every new version of it, but I don't see any big improvement. Sometimes some heuristic improvement, but still very small (the only heuristic detection I saw was a false positive).

That's why I would never reccomend Symantec as an antivirus, (not even if it had a lifetime license) as well as other antiviruses with which I had similar experiences, but that I don't think I'm allowed to mention.

*One last thing. The only website that my father opened was Yahoo! Mail.*

That's all I had to say." }-
Let me make it straight: NIS is a quite famous security software, so all of the hackers who wanna make virus will target into NIS. The hackers don't design their viruses to target other AV. I think it is not Norton's faults. It is because Norton is so famous.

[Bubba]

numerous off topic comparison posts removed.

We can either discuss "Opinions on NIS 2008 on Vista?" or bring this one to a close, pretty simple.

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off topic posts removed, thread closed.