Wow FDISR! Why are you not being updated ;(

[apathy]

I bought eaz-fix recently and slowly it stole a large chunk of hard drive space
and I had to uninstall it as it wouldn't give up the space and that was a nightmare. If it wasn't for IFW/IFD I would have lost everything. Then an ultra paranoid buddy of mine who has too much time and money on his hands had a registered copy of FDISR v3.20 build 202 but didn't even use it has he has around 10 different types of rollback software laying around.

FDISR beats them all! Why is this not being developed and who crippled this into the FD-Rescue it is today.

My real question is do I have to keep updating the two snapshots to keep my system current or is what he is trying to say is that you can boot into the rollback snapshot if you want to try out a software that might damage your computer?

And how does archiving and freezing work.

Thanks so much for all the help I have received from the forums and the massive posts on here.
-{ Quote: "
1. The primary snapshot is your WORK snapshot.
2. The secondary snapshot is your ROLLBACK snapshot.

When you install a new software in your WORK snapshot and you don't like it and want to get rid of it, you do this :
1. boot in your ROLLBACK snapshot.
2. copy/update from ROLLBACK snapshot to WORK snapshot.
3. Reboot in your WORK snapshot.
After that your WORK snapshot = ROLLBACK snapshot and the new software is GONE in your WORK snapshot as if it was never installed.
Try and test this out, so that you can see how it works, because you will do this alot in the future.

When you install a new software in your WORK snapshot and you like it and want to keep it, you do this :
1. Copy/update from WORK snapshot to ROLLBACK snapshot.
After that the new software is also installed in your ROLLBACK snapshot and of course in your WORK snapshot.
" }-

[LowWaterMark]

-{ Quote: "FDISR beats them all! Why is this not being developed and who crippled this into the FD-Rescue it is today." }-To answer the question from that quote and the subject line of this thread, Todd from Leapfrog Software explains in the sticky thread at the top of this forum section why the full form of FD-ISR is no longer being sold. (Plus other threads in this section contain in-depth discussions about that topic.):

http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=205644

[ErikAlbert]

Apathy,
The large quote is mine and is valid, when you start using FDISR for the first time and want to use the default solution, but that's not the only solution.
The default solution is the best way to learn FDISR gradually.

An archive is the same as a snapshot, you can BOOT to any snapshot, but you cannot boot to an archive.
Snapshots = min. 2, max. 10. Archives are unlimited.
Snapshots can only be created where FDISR is installed, usually partition [C:].
Archives can be stored on other partitions than [C:] and external HDD's as well.

A frozen snapshot is like a normal snapshot, but after reboot all changes are GONE.

[apathy]

-{ Quote: "Apathy,
The large quote is mine and is valid, when you start using FDISR for the first time and want to use the default solution, but that's not the only solution.
The default solution is the best way to learn FDISR gradually." }-

So let's see if I get this straight, if I want to test out a software I stay in the WORK snapshot, install the software and see if it is right for me then to get rid of it then copy/update from rollback(which has my previous state) to work(which is my current state) and then everything is back to the way it was.

Is that the default way to use the software? I get a lot of email and avira updates and such so should I update my rollback on a regular basis to make sure when I want to uninstall a program cleanly I don't lose anything?

Thanks as always.

[ErikAlbert]

-{ Quote: "So let's see if I get this straight, if I want to test out a software I stay in the WORK snapshot, install the software and see if it is right for me then to get rid of it then copy/update from rollback(which has my previous state) to work(which is my current state) and then everything is back to the way it was.
" }-
That is correct. FDISR always creates IDENTICAL snapshots and the source snapshot always decides what the destination snapshot will be.

-{ Quote: "Is that the default way to use the software? I get a lot of email and avira updates and such so should I update my rollback on a regular basis to make sure when I want to uninstall a program cleanly I don't lose anything?
" }-
At the end of the day, you run Avira and when everything is OK, you copy/update from WORK snapshot to ROLLBACK snapshot.
Tomorrow you start working in your WORK snapshot again.

You can also exclude (anchor) DATA folders. Anchored objects are not included in snapshots or archives anymore.

[apathy]

Wow,

The beauty of this program is that you know exactly how much space it will take and being able to boot in to snapshots is wonderful. I don't care how old this software becomes it puts to shame just about everything else on the market. Btw. If I want to use IFW/IFD for normal backups, should I do anything special or just rely on IFW/IFD and archives from FDISR.

Thanks Much Erik, i probably would be pulling my hair out trying to figure out this incredible software.

I just had a thought that whenever i was going to 'test' a software I can update the rollback snapshot from the work snapshot before installing the software so everything is still in tact. Have any of you seen any programs that had problems working after rolling back?

Danke Schoen

[ErikAlbert]

-{ Quote: "Wow,

The beauty of this program is that you know exactly how much space it will take and being able to boot in to snapshots is wonderful. I don't care how old this software becomes it puts to shame just about everything else on the market. Btw. If I want to use IFW/IFD for normal backups, should I do anything special or just rely on IFW/IFD and archives from FDISR.

Thanks Much Erik, i probably would be pulling my hair out trying to figure out this incredible software.

I just had a thought that whenever i was going to 'test' a software I can update the rollback snapshot from the work snapshot before installing the software so everything is still in tact. Have any of you seen any programs that had problems working after rolling back?

Danke Schoen" }-
If you are not satisfied with THIS solution, which can happen later. There are several other solutions to make it better. You only have to ask.
The copy/update is very reliable, never failed to my knowledge.

Some software can corrupt FDISR, that's why you still need Image Backup, but it happens very rare.
The software "Baseline Shield" is one of these softwares. It's a good exercise to test your image backup software. ;D

[apathy]

There is an option that in FDISR that I just love.

TAKE NOTE SOFTWARE DEVELOPERS:

The ability to exclude files/folders in the snapshots. I have an archive
folder that does not need to be backed up and it is normally very large
which cuts down on on the snapshot size.

[ErikAlbert]

-{ Quote: "There is an option that in FDISR that I just love.

TAKE NOTE SOFTWARE DEVELOPERS:

The ability to exclude files/folders in the snapshots. I have an archive
folder that does not need to be backed up and it is normally very large
which cuts down on on the snapshot size." }-
Alot is possible. FDISR has only technical rules, while the user is free to do whatever he wants within the limit of these technical rules.

At this moment FDISR is the very best ISR-software available, all the rest is mediocre and less than FDISR.

[apathy]

One last question and I think I get the gist of it. How does the work snapshot get updated as you normally use you computer and haven't rolled back any changes.

Thanks for the patience btw.

[ErikAlbert]

-{ Quote: "One last question and I think I get the gist of it. How does the work snapshot get updated as you normally use you computer and haven't rolled back any changes.

Thanks for the patience btw." }-
Your daily snapshot is updated as before you used FDISR. Each time you change it or a software changes it, (or a malware changes it), ... your snapshot will be updated immediately and all changes will be still there after reboot.

Only a FROZEN snapshot is different, it accepts every change between two reboots, but after reboot all changes are GONE.
My advice : don't use a frozen snapshot in the beginning, learn FDISR the normal way first and once you understand and tried each function, you can do whatever you want.

If your work snapshot is in serious trouble, just reboot, press the F1-key, boot to your rollback snapshot and recover your work snapshot from there. After that, boot to your work snapshot and continue like nothing happened.
That's called Immediate System Recovery. System = Windows + Applications. Recovery = back to a healthy state. It's all very simple.

[QQ2595]

I think the Deepfreeze, Returnil Free, Powershadow can do the same work.;D

[Peter2150]

-{ Quote: "I think the Deepfreeze, Returnil Free, Powershadow can do the same work.;D" }-

Wish it were so, but alas it isn't.

[ErikAlbert]

-{ Quote: "I think the Deepfreeze, Returnil Free, Powershadow can do the same work.;D" }-
Not true. All 3 have serious shortcomings compared with FDISR, I already investigated this.
FDISR isn't terminated, because it wasn't good enough, it's still the king of all similar softwares.

[Huupi]

-{ Quote: "I think the Deepfreeze, Returnil Free, Powershadow can do the same work.;D" }-

Hey QQ2595, Your in for some learning time,at least your quote appears to be showing your total lack of knowledge about this stuff.

[EASTER]

One of the many other Fabulous features that FD-ISR (Genuine Original) has over "ALL" others, to name one that i find better then storing a dozen images, is it's 10 snapshot limit followed by unlimited duplicates/archives.

IF you happen to be in that Elite Group of customers who did happen to get in on it, i can name no other program P.E.R.I.O.D. that will allot a user to create 10 completely different "bootable" systems on a single HD partition and allow you to SAVE them safely isolated off to another HD as achives for preservation/rescue purposes.

This is been LEGENDARY and as innovatively creative as it gets!

LEAPFROG!!

[Huupi]

FDISR/BootBack is that flexible, so i use it with only 2 snapshots and 2 archives on a second internal drive.I know many have more for test/evaluate stuff,i have this setup only for system recovery and sofar it fixed many issues which otherwise should had forced me to format and reinstall. :thumb:

edit: Of course SP as a last safety net,so i feel double confident.

[demoneye]

i am also start from the end and finish with FDISR which is the king of them all


ONE ISR TO ROLL THEM ALL

[ellison64]

Ive heard so much about fdisr that i wanted to try it.I downloaded first defence isr proffesional version 3.21 build 203 from here...
http://www.brothersoft.com/downloads/first-defense.html
Its a 14 day trial.Can the experts tell me whether this build is a "good build"? and how (if i decided to keep it) could i purchase this to get a serial?.I notice its horizon datasys and clicking first defence homepage in help ,takes me to "first defence isr rescue" page ,which seems to be a different product.Will the serial for that work with the version i have?
tia
ellison

[EASTER]

-{ Quote: "i am also start from the end and finish with FDISR which is the king of them all


ONE ISR TO ROLL THEM ALL" }-

Couldn't have said it any better myself. :thumb:

[alloucho]

-{ Quote: "Ive heard so much about fdisr that i wanted to try it.I downloaded first defence isr proffesional version 3.21 build 203 from here...
http://www.brothersoft.com/downloads/first-defense.html
Its a 14 day trial.Can the experts tell me whether this build is a "good build"? and how (if i decided to keep it) could i purchase this to get a serial?.I notice its horizon datasys and clicking first defence homepage in help ,takes me to "first defence isr rescue" page ,which seems to be a different product.Will the serial for that work with the version i have?
tia
ellison" }-
You can get the latest updated FDISR Version from here:
http://www.spursuits.com/bootback/download.asp

[EASTER]

Yeah, if anything resembling the name FD-ISR is in circulations it would be from it's now distributors i would think, and anything else would have to be considered HOT!

[Huupi]

-{ Quote: "You can get the latest updated FDISR Version from here:
http://www.spursuits.com/bootback/download.asp" }-

Don't misled people,FDISR/BootBack isn't sold anymore by nobody period.>:(

[Acadia]

WARNING: according to SiteAdvisor, proceed to BrotherSoft at your own risk!

Acadia

[ErikAlbert]

The strength of FDISR are archives and that is missing in ALL other ISR-softwares and keep in mind that archives are a real part of ISR, not IB.
All the actual ISR-softwares, based on virtualization, can't remember any previous system state, not even one. As long that doesn't happen, I won't use them. The only way to get a previous system state is using Image Backup, which isn't practical for daily usage.

[Huupi]

With today fast systems and keep yo system small,restore an image takes just a bit more time as with copy/update with FDISR from archive.
I have a smal system on C part.(15 gig) restore take just 5 minutes,obviously using Shadow Protect. ;)

[ErikAlbert]

-{ Quote: "With today fast systems and keep yo system small,restore an image takes just a bit more time as with copy/update with FDISR from archive.
I have a smal system on C part.(15 gig) restore take just 5 minutes,obviously using Shadow Protect. ;)" }-
Me too, but I prefer archives to clean my computer daily. No CD, no external HDD, no image selection, just a simple reboot. I can't do that in less than 2 minuts with SP and repeat that during each reboot.

[apathy]

-{ Quote: "The strength of FDISR are archives" }-

Am I right in thinking that archives are snapshots that you can store elsewhere? So that if by some nightmare both your snapshots you can copy/update from the archive to the primary snapshot.

Erik you mentioned that you clean your PC using archives? How is that?

I honestly wish someone would continue FDISR. In the last few weeks I have put it through Hell and back and it comes through always.

[ErikAlbert]

-{ Quote: "Am I right in thinking that archives are snapshots that you can store elsewhere? So that if by some nightmare both your snapshots you can copy/update from the archive to the primary snapshot.
" }-
That is correct and the most preferred method of FDISR-users, rather than using a rescue snapshot. Most of us have an archive of each snapshot. The number of archives is unlimited and they can be stored anywhere.

-{ Quote: "Erik you mentioned that you clean your PC using archives? How is that?" }-
That is a very long story from 2006.06.01 until 2007.10.01. I can't explain this in one little post and you have to agree with the philosophy behind it first, you probably won't even like it. I'm probably the only FDISR-user who uses ShadowProtect and FDISR in this way.

-{ Quote: "I honestly wish someone would continue FDISR. In the last few weeks I have put it through Hell and back and it comes through always." }-
Say that again, but FDISR v3.21.205 is TERMINATED, only the very expensive server edition survived.
I'm already thinking of another solution to replace FDISR somewhere in the future. I can't work with a dead software, that has no future anymore.

[demoneye]

FDISR is not just the perfect ISR around its the ONLY software that can assimilated in almost any existent runing pc`s environment .

i mean u dont have to prepare the pc for FDISR , you just install it and with the proper knowledge adjust it in notime (out of the box).

unlike SP/ATI/DS.........u cant assimilated thoos in any pc environment without the proper approach

cheers:)

[Peter2150]

-{ Quote: "Am I right in thinking that archives are snapshots that you can store elsewhere? So that if by some nightmare both your snapshots you can copy/update from the archive to the primary snapshot.

Erik you mentioned that you clean your PC using archives? How is that?

I honestly wish someone would continue FDISR. In the last few weeks I have put it through Hell and back and it comes through always." }-

They aren't quite snapshots, as they can't be booted. YOu stll need some kind of second snapshot to boot to. THen you can copy/update from the archive.

[apathy]

-{ Quote: "
Say that again, but FDISR v3.21.205 is TERMINATED, only the very expensive server edition survived. I'm already thinking of another solution to replace FDISR somewhere in the future. I can't work with a dead software, that has no future anymore." }-

This is the very sad part about it, I bought eaz-fix to find out that it hogs hard drive space and doesn't give it back. At least FDISR tells you how much the snapshot size is. I just don't see anything out right now that can comes close other than running your OS out of VMware.

[ErikAlbert]

-{ Quote: "This is the very sad part about it, I bought eaz-fix to find out that it hogs hard drive space and doesn't give it back. At least FDISR tells you how much the snapshot size is. I just don't see anything out right now that can comes close other than running your OS out of VMware." }-
Yes the volume of each snapshot is very stable, because I keep a good eye on this in order to check my cleaning solution.
My off-line snapshot is always 3.22gb and after my video work it often contains 15gb upto 45gb, but after cleaning it with an archive, it's always back to 3.22gb.
Also the volume of [C:] is always around 10.2gb according Windows Explorer.
If I wasn't playing so much in my online snapshot, I would always have the same volumes. :)

[pratzert]

QUOTE: "Originally Posted by alloucho
You can get the latest updated FDISR Version from here:
http://www.spursuits.com/bootback/download.asp


QUOTE:" Don't misled people,FDISR/BootBack isn't sold anymore by nobody period.":UNQUOTE

So what's the deal with these downloads then ? After digging into it deeper, I seem to be able to find downloads at some sites of the FDISR V3.20.202.

Is this the original? And what happens if you install it? Is it a trial which becomes a dead end after so many days because you can't get an activation license?

I have come across some sites in which you pay up-front to download FDISR and I wonder if they have license activatio numbers in reserve, or are just unscrupulous vendors?

Tim

[Peter2150]

-{ Quote: "QUOTE: "Originally Posted by alloucho
You can get the latest updated FDISR Version from here:
http://www.spursuits.com/bootback/download.asp




Tim" }-

The website says it's a 30d trial. I didn't try the link.

Pete

PS. Should you find another links, please don't post them

[pratzert]

-{ Quote: "The website says it's a 30d trial. I didn't try the link.

Pete

PS. Should you find another links, please don't post them" }-

Hi Pete.

I have found plenty of sites that offer the download, and I will be sure not to post them. (I did not post that other link... it was merely a quote from an earlier post in this thread.)

I was wondering how Leapfrog handles such downloads? Especially since some of them seem to be actually selling the download.

I'm always leery of such downloads considering all the viruses and malware out there.

Tim