Rollback RX/ Eaz Fix Bugs

[pandlouk]

I had found some major and minor bugs on Rollback RX and although I reported them to the support and dev team on 23/2/2008 I have not any news from horizondatasys since 29/2/2008 and I do not know if they are fixed or not.

I decided to post them here, for warning the other RB/EF users.

Important bugs:
1.-{ Quote: "I had a strange behavior from Rollback RX 8.1 latest version. I have 5 snapshots:
Baseline->1(locked)->2(locked)->3(locked)->4 // 5.
snapshot 4(2,5GB) and snapshot 5(2,2GB) are unlocked and both have as source number 3.

I rolled back to number 3 and tried to explore number 4 as a virtual drive. Some of the files and folder seemed corrupted so I decided to rollback again to number 4. After entering in the 4th snapshot chkdsk run it fixed a lot of indexes and recovered most of the corrupted files. After that I returned to my locked 3 snapshot.

For my surprise although 4 and 5 are indipendent, after the chkdsk on the 4th, somehow they were merged. Now snapshot 4 is 8169MB and snapshot 5 is 595MB." }-
2.-{ Quote: "When I load a snapshot as a virtual drive; I can eliminate or add some files in the virtual drive. This has as a result a corrupted snapshot." }-

Minor Bugs:
1.-{ Quote: "It seems that the drivers of rollback interfear with the intel usb drivers. When I plugin an external usb drive windows reports that "the drive cannot be loaded because the necessary service did not start". (although the external usb drive is already loaded and is working fine; I can navigate in the drive copy,delete files,etc. and I can use the safe remove). After I uninstalled rollback that message does not appear any more." }-
2.-{ Quote: "The syncronize of the folders between snapshots has problems when in the folder are lots of files (more than 1000files) and or if there are files with strage carracters cinese,arabic,etc. It was just a test that I performed for discovering the limits of rollback's sincronization." }-
3.-{ Quote: "When the syncronize folders is used Rollback does not free the space when I eliminate the obsolute snapshots and performe a new defrag." }-

ps. Pay attention to backup often your valuable data, if you store it in the RB/EF protected partition.

Panagiotis

[ErikAlbert]

You can add this thread also to the RB/EF problems :
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=208659

-{ Quote: "
RollBack Rx Professional is a robust system restore utility that enables users to easily restore a PC to a time before certain events occurred. Saving time, money and PC trouble." }-
http://www.horizondatasys.com/303117.ihtml

Robust ? Easily ? Forget it. Saving time, money and PC trouble ? Forget that too. ::)

[TonyW]

-{ Quote: "http://www.horizondatasys.com/303117.ihtml

Robust ? Easily ? Forget it. Saving time, money and PC trouble ? Forget that too. ::)" }-
I think that comment is unwarranted to make. For every person that encounters a bug, there are others who don't. It's unfair to make the statement you did because of that.

For example, concerning pandlouk's bugs, I didn't encounter those when I tested the program, but that's because I didn't use all the features such as the virtual drive. The program still served its purpose during my test so on the basis of that your statement is invalid.

[Aaron Here]

For the first since I got it for free (Giveaway of the Day), last week EF had a major issue which I reported in nanana1's Disable ChkDsk thread.

For reasons that I believe to be EF-related, Tuneup Utilities had advised me that it was necessary to run a chkdsk. I did so, and afterwards tried to restore my EF snapshots only to find my 5 most recent snapshots were all corrupted!!!

Thanks to my 'trusted-friend' Drive Snapshot, I was able to restore a 1-day old image and I was back in business (with all EF snapshots working perfectly). Since I got EF for free I am not entitled to any support, so as a result of this incident I will not let a day go by without creating a DS image!

And for whatever it's worth, the day that EF bombed on me, all that was done prior to the incident was my taking a new snapshot. Since I use (and trust) DS for image backups, I only use EF for creating/restoring snapshots.

The interesting thing about all of this is that 'just for kicks' I have since run chkdsk several times and have thereafter successfully recovered EF snapshots without any issues whatsoever! Therefore, I can only conclude that while chkdsk may have perpetuated the problem I experienced last week, it did not bring about the incident.

[appster]

-{ Quote: "....And for whatever it's worth, the day that EF bombed on me, all that was done prior to the incident was my taking a new snapshot. Since I use (and trust) DS for image backups, I only use EF for creating/restoring snapshots.

The interesting thing about all of this is that 'just for kicks' I have since run chkdsk several times and have thereafter successfully recovered EF snapshots without any issues whatsoever! Therefore, I can only conclude that while chkdsk may have perpetuated the problem I experienced last week, it did not bring about the incident." }-
Aaron, I've been running RB v7.21 without ever having any problems for nearly 2-years. It may be of interest to note that I have my system setting to only take a snapshot when the system is in a consistent state - that just seemed to make good sense to me as the liklihood of a corrupt RB/EF snapshot has to be much greater if the system is in an inconsistent state at the time the snapshot is being created. But even so, (like with you) my final fail-safe protection is my DS backups! ;)

[demoneye]

-{ Quote: "For the first since I got it for free (Giveaway of the Day), last week EF had a major issue which I reported in nanana1's Disable ChkDsk thread.

For reasons that I believe to be EF-related, Tuneup Utilities had advised me that it was necessary to run a chkdsk. I did so, and afterwards tried to restore my EF snapshots only to find my 5 most recent snapshots were all corrupted!!!

Thanks to my 'trusted-friend' Drive Snapshot, I was able to restore a 1-day old image and I was back in business (with all EF snapshots working perfectly). Since I got EF for free I am not entitled to any support, so as a result of this incident I will not let a day go by without creating a DS image!

And for whatever it's worth, the day that EF bombed on me, all that was done prior to the incident was my taking a new snapshot. Since I use (and trust) DS for image backups, I only use EF for creating/restoring snapshots.

The interesting thing about all of this is that 'just for kicks' I have since run chkdsk several times and have thereafter successfully recovered EF snapshots without any issues whatsoever! Therefore, I can only conclude that while chkdsk may have perpetuated the problem I experienced last week, it did not bring about the incident." }-

you write " I was able to restore a 1-day old image and I was back in business (with all EF snapshots working perfectly). "

its amazing coz ef team got no solution to backup the entire snapshots yet...are u totaly sure after using "drive snapshoot" u got all the snapshots?? if so did your restore bring on the EF console at start up ? (they call it subsystem)..

cheers

[farmerlee]

-{ Quote: "you write " I was able to restore a 1-day old image and I was back in business (with all EF snapshots working perfectly). "

its amazing coz ef team got no solution to backup the entire snapshots yet...are u totaly sure after using "drive snapshoot" u got all the snapshots?? if so did your restore bring on the EF console at start up ? (they call it subsystem)..

cheers" }-
Doing a sector by sector backup lets you make an image of your system that includes all snapshots. Personally i use trueimage 11 to do this.

[demoneye]

-{ Quote: "Doing a sector by sector backup lets you make an image of your system that includes all snapshots. Personally i use trueimage 11 to do this." }-

does terabyteunlimited can backup also all snapshots? (http://www.terabyteunlimited.com) ?

cheers

[appster]

-{ Quote: "does terabyteunlimited can backup also all snapshots? (http://www.terabyteunlimited.com) ?

cheers" }-
Yes (according to IFD-IFW users here like markymoo). I've accomplished this with both True Image v11 and a great number of times with Drive Snapshot v1.38 (my favorite).

The 'trick' to doing this is to run the backup outside of WinXP by booting up into another OS (like DOS, Linux, WinPE, etc) and then backup all sectors on your system drive/partition.

[demoneye]

-{ Quote: "Yes (according to IFD-IFW users here like markymoo). I've accomplished this with both True Image v11 and a great number of times with Drive Snapshot v1.38 (my favorite).

The 'trick' to doing this is to run the backup outside of WinXP by booting up into another OS (like DOS, Linux, WinPE, etc) and then backup all sectors on your system drive/partition." }-
hi man
2 remark

1. did u or someone else succssed with terabyteunlimited 2.08 or less?
2. drive snapshot doesnt let u have its rescure disk on CD...its offer only 1.44 floppy drive ...(or i a m wong)

cheers:thumb:

[appster]

-{ Quote: "hi man
2 remark

1. did u or someone else succssed with terabyteunlimited 2.08 or less?
2. drive snapshot doesnt let u have its rescure disk on CD...its offer only 1.44 floppy drive ...(or i a m wong)

cheers:thumb:" }-
1. As I replied in my post, "according to IFD-IFW users here like markymoo" and another IFD-IFW user is Brian K - do a search.

2. DS does not provide a WinPE based boot CD, but it works very well if you make your own! You can either use DS' DOS boot disk (which I don't use), or preferably bootup into BartPE/WinPE and run DS (snapshot.exe) from either the boot CD or just about anywhere you have it on your hard drives! A lot has been written about that in this forum. Again, do a search. ;)

[demoneye]

-{ Quote: "1. As I replied in my post, "according to IFD-IFW users here like markymoo" and another IFD-IFW user is Brian K - do a search.

2. DS does not provide a WinPE based boot CD, but it works very well if you make your own! You can either use DS' DOS boot disk (which I don't use), or preferably bootup into BartPE/WinPE and run DS (snapshot.exe) from either the boot CD or just about anywhere you have it on your hard drives! A lot has been written about that in this forum. Again, do a search. ;)" }-

10x alot man... just this...did u use in drivesnapshot any special value to do "byte to byte" copy in order to keep all snapshot made in eaz fix?

cheers :thumb:

[appster]

-{ Quote: "10x alot man... just this...did u use in drivesnapshot any special value to do "byte to byte" copy in order to keep all snapshot made in eaz fix?

cheers :thumb:" }-
Each image-backup program has its own terminology for this. With DS you select 'Maintenance Mode'. But it's very important to run DS (using Maint. Mode) outside of your normal Windows environment - i.e., after booting into BartPE, WinPE, UBCD4Win, or DOS!