View Full Version : Does your AMD-based computer boot after installing XP SP3?
ronjor
May 9th, 2008, 07:29 PM
-{ Quote: "There are many possible reasons why a computer may crash at boot time. SP3 seems to introduce two that are related to AMD-based computers, and, possibly, one or two more that appear to affect Intel-based computers. Which one it is impacts which work-around you use. At this point, the information is still trickling in. If you have a crash on boot problem that does not match what I describe below, and it happened as soon as you installed SP3, I'm sure others would like to know as well, including as much detail as you can give us." }-Jesper's Blog (http://msinfluentials.com/blogs/jesper/archive/2008/05/08/does-your-amd-based-computer-boot-after-installing-xp-sp3.aspx)
Peter2150
May 9th, 2008, 08:00 PM
Only comment I have is be sure you have a working image of your system before installing.
lodore
May 9th, 2008, 08:11 PM
thats why i havent installed this on my older computer yet.
ronjor
May 9th, 2008, 08:19 PM
Be sure to read to blog. It seems to affect AMD-based computers with OEM images.
My ancient AMD computer took the update with no problems. :)
divedog
May 9th, 2008, 11:00 PM
No problem here, 4400x2.
EASTER
May 9th, 2008, 11:45 PM
-{ Quote: "Only comment I have is be sure you have a working image of your system before installing." }-
Amen.
Although i'm one of those who absolutely refuse to jump at whenever Microsoft releases another patch or SP, it's useful information indeed that all these issues are coming to surface now and being widely reported and Hopefully $M will address/correct them pronto.
After all these years it still floors me how they continue to have problems in the engineering of these SP's.
the mul
May 10th, 2008, 06:05 AM
Here is an article released on the 9TH of May about problems when running sp3 on many windows xp and vista systems.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/05/09/windows_xp_sp3_reboots_crashes/
http://msinfluentials.com/blogs/jesper/archive/2008/05/08/does-your-amd-based-computer-boot-after-installing-xp-sp3.aspx
Here is another link to more discussions on this issue.
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r20455680-Info-XP-SP3-cripples-some-PCs-with-endless-reboots.
The MUL
Antarctica
May 10th, 2008, 06:38 AM
That's why I always wait at least two months before updating anything major from Microsoft.
Nick Rhodes
May 10th, 2008, 07:22 AM
-{ Quote: "That's why I always wait at least two months before updating anything major from Microsoft." }-
I always backup and test, if I have problems I can restore and wait for a fix :D
ronjor
May 16th, 2008, 05:15 PM
-{ Quote: "Microsoft, HP ready XP SP3 endless-reboot patches" }--{ Quote: "Help is on its way for users affected by the Windows XP Service Pack (SP) 3 endless-reboot problem that has plagued some users for the past week-plus.
Both Microsoft and Hewlett-Packard are readying patches that should remedy the glitch, which seems to affect primarily users of AMD-based systems." }-Story (http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=1403)
tradetime
May 16th, 2008, 05:25 PM
So far I have not seen any compelling reasons why I should update to this service pack, so for the moment I hold off. Curiosity may get the better of me as time passes, hopefully if that proves to be the case I will not be the proverbial cat :D
prius04
May 16th, 2008, 05:46 PM
-{ Quote: ".....After all these years it still floors me how they continue to have problems in the engineering of these SP's." }-
Yup! It took them almost 4 years to release this one and it was in beta for how long? I'm pretty sure RC1 hit sometime last November so I'm having a tough time figuring out why this issue didn't surface sooner.
OTOH, probably shouldn't come as much of a shock since the SP still has compatibility issues with one of their own products (RMS).......and they're blaming HP for this one? Sheesh! ::)
glentrino2duo
May 17th, 2008, 10:12 AM
-{ Quote: "Story (http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=1403)" }-
I think the link on post #1 already contains the fix for the endless reboot. The author, a former MS employee, beat MS and HP in releasing the fix...
DVD+R
May 17th, 2008, 09:55 PM
Answer to the Question of the Post Topic is NO! And I have the AMD Phenom 64 9000+ Quad Core processor running my Rig 8)
EASTER
May 18th, 2008, 12:44 AM
Some of us including myself just can't bring ourselves to buy into this latest SP3, issues notwithstanding, and or bugs, IMO there are plenty enough security vendors who already have the jump on actual AND potential exploits being tried on our NT Systems and i've yet to experience anything of serious consequence running into malware OR exploits with just SP2.
Oversizing the amount of new files for yet another Service Pack that does absolutely nothing for performance just doesn't make the grade for some.
But, if it a user is insisted or warned to install it then i don't see anything wrong with adding it so long as it doesn't upset their already balanced system.
And thats exactly where i stand to date. After all this time ALL my units are pretty well in perfect balance and secured with only SP2 and i'm not about to chance blowing all the hours and weeks i put into customizing XP Pro to look and run as best it can be as well as blowing Vista out of the water to boot.
EASTER
Fuzzfas
May 18th, 2008, 04:05 AM
No problem here with AMD 3800+X2. As a matter of fact, i have the impression that now Windows boots faster!
nanana1
May 18th, 2008, 05:23 AM
Just so that you know, this is not just a AMD chip machine problem.
I recently had my Intel chip machine go into this endless boot (EB) syndrome all of a sudden after 3 weeks. Cannot even rollback to Eaz-Fix baseline installation. Endless reboots...... :-(
Refusing to believe this is SP3-caused, reinstalled windows XP and updated sp3 immediatelyand 2 hours later, EB started. How and why this happened, I don't know. Tried the gdi32.dll fix and intelppm registry tweak without any success.:thumbd:
Reinstalled Windows XP again with SP2 and the Intel machine is working nicely again. Will NOT install SP3 on this machine for quite some time until MS sort it out.:lurking:
nanana1
May 25th, 2008, 08:23 PM
-{ Quote: "Just so that you know, this is not just a AMD chip machine problem.
I recently had my Intel chip machine go into this endless boot (EB) syndrome all of a sudden after 3 weeks. Cannot even rollback to Eaz-Fix baseline installation. Endless reboots...... :-(
Refusing to believe this is SP3-caused, reinstalled windows XP and updated sp3 immediatelyand 2 hours later, EB started. How and why this happened, I don't know. Tried the gdi32.dll fix and intelppm registry tweak without any success.:thumbd:
Reinstalled Windows XP again with SP2 and the Intel machine is working nicely again. Will NOT install SP3 on this machine for quite some time until MS sort it out.:lurking:" }-
Correction : Further investigation showed a faulty usb wireless receiver to be the cause of the endless reboot problem.*puppy*
OldMX
May 27th, 2008, 03:58 AM
Friend of mine had the issue on a HP AMD based computer, setting the intelppm service to disable via registry in safe mode fixed the problem :D
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