AVIRA 8 Release Notes - Now released!

[rookieman]

There seems that you'll have a choice on how to update to the newer version:thumb:
Yes the Beta testing has now finished and V8 is nearly at the rollout stage, you will be able to upgrade to the new V8 via a normal update method. Or if you wish download the new installer and reinstall your Premium version that way, the choice is yours. :)

[Bluenile]

It looks like we're in business, downloading here. It appears to be around 15MB

[trjam]

yep, here it comes.;)

[trjam]

looks like web guard was pulled out of the AV.:-\

[Bluenile]

Very slick install, you need to manually activate the webguard via add/remove programs after rebooting.

I've just tried the GRC Leak test and there is no loopback problem, Comodo still passes in basic mode with Avira 8 Webguard activated.

Good job Avira. ;D

[Bluenile]

-{ Quote: "looks like web guard was pulled out of the AV.:-\" }-

Try a reboot. I rebooted and it flashed a pop up telling me I could manually activate Webguard via add/remove programs. it is now working fine with no slow down of my PC or browsing the web.

[trjam]

correct, or you can go to add and remove in control panel, and hit modify. It adds it that way.:thumb:

[trjam]

it appears the AV is rolling out but cant get suite to update.

[DVD+R]

Suite updated fine, however the download link at Avira still reprts the latest version being from Sept 2007 :blink: Anyhow.. it pounced on this bugger right away:

TR/PSW.LdPinch.TAW.256

What that is I've no idea but I deleted it anyway along with something called vstub in C:\WINDOWS both were quarentined by the suite and I threw them out ;)

Wait a Sec its just said TR/PSW.LdPinch.TAW.256 is a Trojan Horse :lurking:

[Diver]

Upgraded via update here, about 7 MB. Rebooted to enable webguard. No immediate problems with Vista firewall. Then all these bugs started crawling out of my computer, smoke came out of my ears. Everything is normal again, LOL. I feel so safe & secure.

[Victek123]

Version 8 was pushed out to my computer this morning at 7:00 AM PDT (Pacific Daylight Time). The webguard is listed in the updated components (go "About Antivir"), but there is no entry for it in the configuration menu. I don't know if this is normal or if I have to activate the webguard? My first impression of the GUI is good! The features are more integrated and easy to access.

[DVD+R]

Some more Villans Infiltrating but Avira Nailed their Ass 8)

BDS/Agent 00.27 Backdoor Server programs
TR/PSW.LdPinch.TAW 256
TR/PSW.LdPinch.doy.2

Holy Strewth :lurking: The Martians Have Landed :blink:

[Saraceno]

How's it compare to version 7? (scan speed, stability, user interface)

If the GUI is different, anyone able to post some screenshots? :P

[Bluenile]

Here's a few screenies.

[Threedog]

I just got the update here. Everything seems to be working OK here so far. Got the webguard configured after I rebooted.

[Saraceno]

-{ Quote: "http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n165/bluenile35/sshot-1-1.jpg

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n165/bluenile35/sshot-2.jpg" }-

Thank you very much. Looks to be a better layout than the previous version. :) Does it seem lighter or heavier on resources than previously?

[Bluenile]

-{ Quote: "Thank you very much. Looks to be a better layout than the previous version. :) Does it seem lighter or heavier on resources than previously?" }-

It's using significantly more RAM (about 20MB) with I think one more service running but no noticeable slowdown here on XP with a very modest system. Browsing and running programs is as fast as before and no conflicts with Comodo 3 Firewall.

[trjam]

The antibot feature keeps nasties from using your email you send things out. The way to configure it is, right below the wording of "Allowed servers, there is a white box to type in your server name. It is kind of hard to see. Then hit add. Do the same under the heading "Allowed from".

[noway]

Is there a direct link available for the free version? All I can find is v.7.

[Leo2005]

-{ Quote: "Is there a direct link available for the free version? All I can find is v.7." }-
the free verison does not seem to be available yet.

[Saraceno]

If someone were to google 'avira slickdeals', and then click on the first link, they might get a six month licence of Avira Premium for zero. ;)

Just a suggestion. :thumb:

[King Grub]

-{ Quote: "It's using significantly more RAM (about 20MB) with I think one more service running but no noticeable slowdown here on XP with a very modest system. Browsing and running programs is as fast as before and no conflicts with Comodo 3 Firewall." }-

Mine uses the same amount of RAM as before, plus the memory used by the new service, of course, the WebGuard. And it's very smooth so far, no problems. Tested the WebGuard on the Eicar page, and it worked as expected. Thumbs up.

[jm0307]

-{ Quote: "If someone were to .....
Just a suggestion. :thumb:" }-

Thanks Saraceno :) :thumb:

[waters]

Thanks Saraceno

[Macstorm]

yeah v.8 it's here but it seems the servers are overloaded atm.. as expected ;D

[Saraceno]

No problem. ;D

[The_Duality]

Working great, I love the new UI - but those funky sliding headings make it seem slightly less responsive. They need to slide FASTER! ;D

I installed the web protection just to try it out, and I must say i'm impressed. Its well set up from the get-go, with exclusions for .flv files (youtube) etc - so it is not too intrusive. I can't tell any difference in my net speed so far. Well done Avira folks!

[rookieman]

It doesn't seem to be going well here.I updated with the updater in the program.Tha Guard is stopped and windows is telling me Antivir Personal Edition is turned off.???

[ggf31416]

Downloading at 24 KB/s (Classic) :thumb:
Stopped at 58KB remaining after 9 minutes and 42 seconds. Connection failed :thumbd:

[Jadda]

Are the free version updated as well? I read on the Avira forum that someone has updated the free version to version 8, but then again, someone else said it haven't been released yet. Can someone comfirm?

[Nike_P]

-{ Quote: "Are the free version updated as well? I read on the Avira forum that someone has updated the free version to version 8, but then again, someone else said it haven't been released yet. Can someone comfirm?" }-

Well i am trying to update from free ver7 to ver8 but nothing seem to happend, the update-server is blocked.
Anyone has upgrade from free ver7 to ver8?

[trjam]

I just upgraded another PC, no issue. I am sure they are being hammered so be patient.;)

[LoneWolf]

I think Ill wait a few days till the servers cool down a bit.
Plus I want to be sure of hearing about no problems from others.

[Nike_P]

now i am downloading thru the update-server from ver7 free to ver8, but it take long time, i have now 10kB/s and normaly i have 900kB/s :)
but it downloads thru update right now ;)

[Jadda]

I really like version 8. Clean, fast and easy GUI. No slow downs when surfing or using the computer - as expected. The webguard doesn't slow down anything either. I was concern it would slow down surfing, but it did not. Impressive!

[Jadda]

Those who update the free version, are avira still begging to upgrade to the bought version?! I hope someone can check this.

[Nike_P]

-{ Quote: "Those who update the free version, are avira still begging to upgrade to the bought version?! I hope someone can check this." }-

it downloads thru the update right now, the FREE VERSION, but its so slow. But it downloading :D

[Jadda]

Ok, that's great to. But I ment that the free version 7, always ask you - the user - to upgrade to the bought version by popping up with and ad, every time your computer starts.. I want to know if it still does this in version 8.

If you did understand what I ment, I apologize. I just got a feeling you did not understand what I was looking for. :)

[trjam]

I like the new Backup Module.

In the Backup section, you can create backups for your data and initiate backup jobs which are executed at the specified times or during the specified events. In Avira Backup you can create so-called mirror backups which let you save and store your most recent data using a minimum of resources. Avira Backup lets you scan your data for viruses and malware during the backup process. Infected files are not saved.

[Nike_P]

-{ Quote: "I ment that the free version 7, always ask you - the user - to upgrade to the bought version. I want to know if it still does this in version 8.

If you did understand waht I ment, I apologize. I just got a feeling you did not understand what I was looking for. :)" }-

yeah thats true :D, i speaked about the free version, its upgrading now.'
But it came to 98% downloaded then it starts to search for another update-server so it never finished complete download.
But i will try again :)

[QBgreen]

AntiVir Premium 8.xx is running as I had hoped it would on my XP Pro machine, and that's silky smooth! All the upgrades/updates are logical and usable with zero fluff. Loving the WebGuard, it's the smoothest and quickest scanner of its kind that I've experienced. Kudos to Avira! ;D

[mllopes]

Do we still have to check the intercept loopback interface in onlinearmor with avira webguard on?

[Nike_P]

i am using now free avira ver8 and it running great...
downloaded & installed.
:)

[Victek123]

-{ Quote: "Version 8 was pushed out to my computer this morning at 7:00 AM PDT (Pacific Daylight Time). The webguard is listed in the updated components (go "About Antivir"), but there is no entry for it in the configuration menu. I don't know if this is normal or if I have to activate the webguard? My first impression of the GUI is good! The features are more integrated and easy to access." }-

Regarding installing the Webguard, it may help to spell out how it works. After the update is installed the Webguard is listed as one of the new components, but it isn't active. You have to reboot (I needed to reboot twice actually) and then you get a slide-up message from the Avira tray icon asking if you want to install the Webguard (it's in German, but "installen" is obvious enough).

[Nike_P]

wow the free ver8 installed my PC and my browser Internet-E-ver7 it running so fast then before, its very good this ver8.

[DaveD]

http://dl1.avgate.net/down/windows/antivir_workstation_winu_en_h.exe
Free Classic version 8 (21.3MB)

[pykko]

Running Avira premium 8 here, very nice and smooth. :)

[Macstorm]

On their website i read 'antivir_workstation' in the download links for all the free, premium and professional versions, funny..

[jm0307]

I had contemplated to uninstall and reinstall the Premium version, but, in the end, decided to let the auto-update take its course.

The auto-update downloaded swiftly, installed flawlessly, and the web guard activation after the reboot went without a hitch. All previous settings were saved, and no conflicts or slowdowns since.

I am very pleased with how this update took its course, and very happy that the licence key, obtained through a friendly hint in this forum, installed smoothly in the new version and extended my licence.

[Bunkhouse Buck]

Smooth and working flawlessly. Suite very light (as usual) and on-demand scanner faster than previous version.

[mick92z]

-{ Quote: "No problem. ;D" }-
Thank you :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:

[ankupan]

Hi,

it is working great and speed is almost better than previous version.

I think, Avira will break all records in next AV-comparatives test. :thumb: :thumb:

[rookieman]

Their server is getting hammered!!!I'd suggest you try this later.I'm on high speed broadband and i'm updating at anywhere from 2 to 5 kbs a sec!!I wouldn't even think of doing this on dialup today.:'(

[virtumonde]

Can someone post a little info about the anti-boot feature??I wasn't aware of that,and i'm afraid it will be overkill with threat fire .Just arrived home i see that the update is slow i'll gonna wait until tonight with my slow connection.Thanks.

[Diver]

Windows Defender does not like avsda.dll in the advanced Spynet mode.

[Gizzy]

-{ Quote: "Can someone post a little info about the anti-boot feature??I wasn't aware of that,and i'm afraid it will be overkill with threat fire .Just arrived home i see that the update is slow i'll gonna wait until tonight with my slow connection.Thanks." }-

I think the anti-bot feature is only for email,
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=1222106&postcount=268

[trjam]

-{ Quote: "I think the anti-bot feature is only for email,
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=1222106&postcount=268" }-
Correct and the "allowed from" would be your complete email address.

[rookieman]

Can someone tell me how to start Antivir Guard.:-[

[trjam]

-{ Quote: "Can someone tell me how to start Antivir Guard.:-[" }-
Without knowing your setup, my suggestion would be to ask in their forum so they can walk you through some specific tests and gather some log postings to get your issue resolved.

[jm0307]

Could someone please help alleviate my confusion about the Web Guard/proxy issue. I have read a great deal about problems between a proxy and firewalls, but am none the wiser, as most of the jargon involved transcends my computer challenged disposition.

I have personally not observed any ill effects since having installed the Web Guard module, and the only change which I can discern is that not only IE, but also Web Guard, are listed in Outpost's Network Activity tab when I access the web. Yet, in view of concerns about the use of a proxy, I thought to ask the following (even if only to allay fears or to begin to remedy my ignorance):

Is the security which my firewall affords compromised by Web Guard?
Do I have to configure my firewall to function properly with Web Guard?

Thanks

[The_Duality]

Oooer, my on access service just threw a little tantrum and died! Got the generic "program has stopped working message" then this (see attachment).

Could not restart service, all internet access died.

EDIT: hmm, it seems I cannot use attachments... just take my word on it ;)

[trjam]

you might want to lower the firewall one setting to medium if you are using the suite and see what happens.

[Bluenile]

-{ Quote: "Could someone please help alleviate my confusion about the Web Guard/proxy issue. I have read a great deal about problems between a proxy and firewalls, but am none the wiser, as most of the jargon involved transcends my computer challenged disposition.

I have personally not observed any ill effects since having installed the Web Guard module, and the only change which I can discern is that not only IE, but also Web Guard, are listed in Outpost's Network Activity tab when I access the web. Yet, in view of concerns about the use of a proxy, I thought to ask the following (even if only to allay fears or to begin to remedy my ignorance):

Is the security which my firewall affords compromised by Web Guard? " }-

I think it is with Comodo so I've turned off Webguard. With Webguard enabled it fails the GRC leak test, with it turned off it passes. Outpost may be different though.

If it's an issue I don't think there's much else you can do apart from turning off Webguard tbh.

[Hugger]

Avira Personal Premium installed and doing it's thing.
Hugger happy!

[jm0307]

-{ Quote: "I think it is with Comodo so I've turned off Webguard. With Webguard enabled it fails the GRC leak test, with it turned off it passes. Outpost may be different though.

If it's an issue I don't think there's much else you can do apart from turning off Webguard tbh." }-


Hello Bluenile,

Thanks for your reply. I tested Outpost with the GRC leak test, and it leaks indeed.

My question is then, is it safer to turn off the Web Guard and have a non-leaking firewall, or to risk leaks by enabling Web Guard but have http scanning instead?

I assume that if I do turn off the Web Guard module, that the AntiVir Guard would jump into action if anything does land on my PC.

Best wishes

PS: disabled Web Guard and Outpost blocks the leak test.

[Nike_P]

-{ Quote: "Hi,


I think, Avira will break all records in next AV-comparatives test. :thumb: :thumb:" }-

I agree with you :)
I also belive that in next AV-comparatives Avira will break all records´.
;)

[Jadda]

And there I bought a Avira Antivir Premium license. I was very pleased with version 8, and it ran perfectly on my computer, so I just had to own one.

God, I have to many licenses now. I don't know what to do with them all. Norman, Norton, McAfee, Dr.Web, Avira. Well, it is good to have. ;)

[KoRnGtL15]

Was updating my Avira and was pleased to see a all new update. Every thing seemed to went smooth. I only have 1 issue. Under Events. It keeps refreshing and I cannot scroll down. When I do it. Since it is refreshing every second it seems. It goes right back up. Can any one help?

[trjam]

-{ Quote: "Was updating my Avira and was pleased to see a all new update. Every thing seemed to went smooth. I only have 1 issue. Under Events. It keeps refreshing and I cannot scroll down. When I do it. Since it is refreshing every second it seems. It goes right back up. Can any one help?" }-
highlight the first and click then go the the last and unclick and delete all.See what happens. If no, I would do a clean install. I really have not heard this one. It is almost like your up arrow or page up button is stuck.

[Bunkhouse Buck]

-{ Quote: "The only big problem of avira antivir is his weakness in malware desinfection.:-\" }-

If you don't get infected to begin with, that is not an issue. I have never been infected with Avira or any other AV for that matter.

[trjam]

-{ Quote: "If you don't get infected to begin with, that is not an issue. I have never been infected with Avira or any other AV for that matter." }-
Also it has been improved in version 8.

[KoRnGtL15]

Thanks. I went ahead and done a reboot. That seemed to fix the issue. I have one more and not sure what it is/what it does. I get this pop up when restarting or booting up my computer when logging in.

199489

-{ Quote: "highlight the first and click then go the the last and unclick and delete all.See what happens. If no, I would do a clean install. I really have not heard this one. It is almost like your up arrow or page up button is stuck." }-

[JasSolo]

-{ Quote: "I agree with you :)
I also belive that in next AV-comparatives Avira will break all records´.
;)" }-

I wouldn't be so sure. I don't even think that this new version will be the one tested in next AV-Comparatives. We'll just have to wait and see. :)


Cheers

[trjam]

-{ Quote: "Thanks. I went ahead and done a reboot. That seemed to fix the issue. I have one more and not sure what it is/what it does. I get this pop up when restarting or booting up my computer when logging in.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a93/korngtl15/save2.jpg" }-
when it pops up hit the left option. You will be pleased.;)

[trjam]

It will activate Web Guard.

[KoRnGtL15]

I went ahead and done that. Took me to a maint. screen and I left modify ticked. Then the next screen showed things installed and it showed web guard un checked. So, I checked it. Looks like it installed it. Did I do the procedure correctly? I hope so!

-{ Quote: "when it pops up hit the left option. You will be pleased.;)" }-

[trjam]

-{ Quote: "I went ahead and done that. Took me to a maint. screen and I left modify ticked. Then the next screen showed things installed and it showed web guard un checked. So, I checked it. Looks like it installed it. Did I do the procedure correctly? I hope so!" }-
Sounds good to me.;)

[trjam]

go to configuration and to Web Guard, change scan to automatic and you are set.

[KoRnGtL15]

Sounds good. Thanks again guys for your help. When I make that change. Is it okay to leave it on deny access or do you suggest some thing else?

-{ Quote: "go to configuration and to Web Guard, change scan to automatic and you are set." }-

[trjam]

deny is what I use.

[KoRnGtL15]

Thanks. What do you guys think of the "Follow symbolic links" option? I see its new and wondering if I should check that as well.

[trjam]

let me make this easy, "I check all";)

[The_Duality]

Did anyone else's prompt to install the Web Guard have the buttons written in German? :P

[trjam]

yep, that will corrected soon. At least it wasnt in Martian.:dry:

[The_Duality]

Haha, it was kind of a lucky dip :P

At least its not a show-stopping bug, and Iv only had the service crash once so far... :dry:

[Ed_H]

-{ Quote: "I think it is with Comodo so I've turned off Webguard. With Webguard enabled it fails the GRC leak test, with it turned off it passes. Outpost may be different though.

If it's an issue I don't think there's much else you can do apart from turning off Webguard tbh." }-

I am using Comodo with Vista home Premium. No problem here with the GRC leak test and Webguard enabled. When running the leaktest Comodo asks to connect to the web just as it should.

[WSFuser]

Does anyone know when the installer for Avira (free) will be available?

The website only has Avira Classic v7.

[InfinityAz]

It's available as a download (http://www.download.com/Avira-AntiVir-Personal-Free-Antivirus/3000-2239_4-10322935.html?tag=pdp_prod)from download.com.

[Mele20]

The GUI is unbearably slow. Takes forever to open now from the tray. That is unacceptable on a fast machine. This is not ten years ago with slow machines.

I have avwsc.exe trying to run every ten minutes. I permanently denied it in ProcessGuard and now PG throws an alert every ten minutes. That is also unacceptable. avwsc.exe is the WSC Helper Tool which should not even be trying to run on my computers as the first thing I do is stomp on and forever disable WSC! With the WSC service permanently disabled why in the world would avwsc.exe try to run constantly?

I deleted the file.

GUI flickers constantly on reports. Can't look at that at all. I reported all these things in the beta. Nothing has been fixed. :(

[Thug21]

Mele, could you describe the flickering a bit more or give a me link to your posts? So far, I don't see this issue on my PC.

On my new laptop (WinXP Pro - 3 GB RAM - 2.5GHZ Intel Centrino- 7200 RPM HD) the GUI does take about 4-5 seconds to fully load, which could be faster. What is it taking for you?

Edit - now the GUI takes 2.5 seconds. I didn't change anything. ??? :)

[dogma]

-{ Quote: "Does anyone know when the installer for Avira (free) will be available?

The website only has Avira Classic v7." }-

You can download and install v7 which should update to v8. As it did on my desktop, where I had v7 installed.

[trjam]

Mele woke up!

Ok did a test Mele on a HP 2 gig machine. GUI takes 2.6 seconds to open. No flickers on screen.

[trjam]

But I to Mele am not 100 percent happy. Until there is a plugin for email and spam, I have asked on versions 7 and 8 for the abilty to right click on the tray icon and be given the option to go straight to mail guard to mark spam. The firewall option is there and this one add on would simplify things.

[Banshee]

- - -
-{ Quote: "The GUI is unbearably slow. Takes forever to open now from the tray. That is unacceptable on a fast machine. This is not ten years ago with slow machines.

---

From the tray ..max 3 secs.Not too bad here.

[argus tuft]

Can anyone who speaks German tell me what the word at the bottom means? tia

199250

[trjam]

Emergency service is pretty close to translation. Like something detected by web guard. One more item to add to a certain someones todo list.;)

[trjam]

Or can deal with mailguard I think.

[argus tuft]

Thanks :)

[bman412]

-{ Quote: "
GUI flickers constantly on reports. Can't look at that at all. I reported all these things in the beta. Nothing has been fixed. :(" }-


I believe Mele's talking about the Events page on the UI. I had the same problem just after updating but it was gone after a reboot. Hope that fixes it for you as well...


Using the free version... Is it me or did they remove avira's archive scan from Scan config. There used to be some configs there like 20 recursion depth etc etc. for archive scanning ??? ???

Just noticed heuristics options gone as well


edit: resolved issues with a clean install :) happy user once again

[Macstorm]

-{ Quote: "GUI flickers constantly on reports. Can't look at that at all. I reported all these things in the beta. Nothing has been fixed. :(" }-
Wouldn't it be that is your pc what needs to be fixed? ;D

[Carver]

-{ Quote: "Wouldn't it be that is your pc what needs to be fixed? ;D" }-
No flicker here, so maybe it is the PC.

[DVD+R]

-{ Quote: "Can anyone who speaks German tell me what the word at the bottom means? tia

199250" }-


Hi argus :) the word means Emergency Service ;)

Hope your wiser now 8)

[KoRnGtL15]

I noticed ZoneAlarm prompted me with MailScanner and WebGuard to run as a server. Is it okay to say yes or is it unsafe?

[Bluenile]

-{ Quote: "I am using Comodo with Vista home Premium. No problem here with the GRC leak test and Webguard enabled. When running the leaktest Comodo asks to connect to the web just as it should." }-

I've got the Webguard running again and it seems OK now, it passes the GRC Leak Test with a pop up telling me it wants to connect. I think I had somehow added the Leak Test to Comodo as a trusted program, once I removed it the alerts showed as normal.

[Mele20]

-{ Quote: "I believe Mele's talking about the Events page on the UI. I had the same problem just after updating but it was gone after a reboot. Hope that fixes it for you as well...


Using the free version... Is it me or did they remove avira's archive scan from Scan config. There used to be some configs there like 20 recursion depth etc etc. for archive scanning ??? ???

Just noticed heuristics options gone as well


edit: resolved issues with a clean install :) happy user once again" }-

Yes, rebooting fixed the flicker on the Events page.

The screen for archive scan in configuration for Lukefilewalker is blank when I click on it. After several seconds my screen convulses and flickers and then I see the information for archive scanning. That was all changed too after the upgrade. Most settings were left as I had them but that one had the archive depth at default not how I had it. Settings for Guard were also reverted to default instead of keeping my settings.

Probably an uninstall and then fresh install of ver 8 will fix the archive screen that is blank for a bit. But I don't want to attempt now to download a copy of ver 8 as download is very slow from Hawaii under the best of conditions. I would not have done it from within ver 7 at all except I had to if I wanted to get new VDF files.

[deanmartin]

The new Avira Premium Security Suite is running just fine on my new Vista. (with 4GB Ram)

[JasSolo]

-{ Quote: "...GUI flickers constantly on reports. Can't look at that at all. I reported all these things in the beta. Nothing has been fixed. :(" }-

Have you tried reinstall graphic card drivers again ?


Cheers

[waters]

What a difference from a couple of years ago when it was all about Nod and all the rants from Wildman about antivir

[FRug]

Actually "Hilfdienst" means "Helper Service", so it should basically be a service used by different parts of an application to perform common tasks.

[noway]

Did the previous version have translation problems in the GUI such as the examples in Posts #322 and #345? Could one expect these things to be fixed fairly quickly?

[Big Apple]

Installed Avira Antivir Premium 8 and everything runs like oil. Looks good, feels good.......Webscanning included: No Slowdown at all!!! To be short: Great AV scanner with great detection etc. :thumb:

[Mele20]

-{ Quote: "Have you tried reinstall graphic card drivers again ?


Cheers" }-

Didn't you see my post just above yours? I reported that rebooting fixed the flickering.

[bellgamin]

-{ Quote: "Installed Avira Antivir Premium 8 and everything runs like oil. Looks good, feels good.......Webscanning included: No Slowdown at all!!! To be short: Great AV scanner with great detection etc. :thumb:" }-With Webguard running while I accessed CNN dot com, using Firefox, I received several "Alert" pop-ups telling me that CNN had switched servers while the page was loading. This flurry of Alert pop-ups repeated with every CNN page that I visited.

With Webguard running while I accessed fileforum dot betanews dot com, using K-meleon, I received repeated "Error" pop-ups telling me that the page had no data. However, the page did have data, & loaded normally. Even so, the "no data" pop-up recurred repeatedly.

When I uninstalled Webguard, the above-described pop-ups ceased to occur. I have left Webguard uninstalled -- it's a PITA as far as I am concerned.

[Big Apple]

-{ Quote: "With Webguard running while I accessed CNN dot com, using Firefox, I received several "Alert" pop-ups telling me that CNN had switched servers while the page was loading. This flurry of Alert pop-ups repeated with every CNN page that I visited.

With Webguard running while I accessed fileforum dot betanews dot com, using K-meleon, I received repeated "Error" pop-ups telling me that the page had no data. However, the page did have data, & loaded normally. Even so, the "no data" pop-up recurred repeatedly.

When I uninstalled Webguard, the above-described pop-ups ceased to occur. I have left Webguard uninstalled -- it's a PITA as far as I am concerned." }-

Just tried a few CNN.com sites, but I don't have any problems/popups at all. Same with Betanews.com, no problem at all. You can see again, that everybody seems to have different behaviours on different machines with different configurations. I use IE 7 and I must say......I've tried every browser available and I always turn back to IE, never have problems with it and I even find it the fastest!
Hope you can sort something out with the new Avira when browsing, but it would be a shame having to disable Webguard.

[Boost]

Running version 8 here,no problems at all! Alot faster then version 7!:thumb:

[waters]

Running great here,will buy after 6 months

[Technic]

This is awesome release from Avira. I had to reboot my PC twice to get all modules working. :P

[Edwin024]

No problems with it over here too. CNN.com went well, no problems at betanews too

[De Hollander]

Performing a clean install on all systems:

The screen for archive scan in configuration is blank for a couple off seconds.

Windows security center reports that Avira Premium is out of date. After a reboot, that was resolved.

Performing a full scan with local protection scanner settings, "Last complete system scan" in the main overview GUI doesn't change. "Scan system now" resolved that.

[rookieman]

I never did get the guard working.I retried in safe mode,I shut off Comodo.Perhaps I should've left out Web Guard all together.:'(

[stapp]

In the help contents in the Avira 8 GUI under 'installation' it states that Avira creates a system restore point.

If like me you have system restore turned off, are any problems likely to occur because of that?

[rookieman]

I uses Winpatrol to limit things starting up.All services were started for Avira,I ran v7 perfectly with no problems at all.But the strange thing was under msconfig I couldn't get it started.I haven't been using Vista very long and this was the first time I tried to update through the updater.I tried to install this like 4 times.:'(

[Boost]

Some of you people have way too many other forms of software installed for your defenses,and when installing new programs such as this,your gonna find your gonna have some "lil problems". Just dont jump the gun and blame Avira ;)

[rookieman]

I'm not blaming Avira at all.I'm sure this little glitch i'm having will get fixed.I still thinks that this program is excellent when I gets it running.I also have experienced that some people will have probs with some software.;)

[Boost]

-{ Quote: "I'm not blaming Avira at all.I'm sure this little glitch i'm having will get fixed.I still thinks that this program is excellent when I gets it running.I also have experienced that some people will have probs with some software.;)" }-

Thats cool,I'm not pointing fingers,it's just when "new software" gets released,it's always someone who wants to jump the company and it's not always their fault. Gotta look at yourself first before lookin for the problem ahead sometimes :)

[Edwin024]

I do find it a pity that I cannot put ports at programs. uTorrent for instance needs it and Avira has no possibility for it. And on their forum it seems that the Avira people find that quite normal. I think that every firewall should have the option to change ports for programs that need it.

[trjam]

-{ Quote: "Thats cool,I'm not pointing fingers,it's just when "new software" gets released,it's always someone who wants to jump the company and it's not always their fault. Gotta look at yourself first before lookin for the problem ahead sometimes :)" }-

Let me add a few thoughts here.

One, no matter how hard a company tries, you folks are right, some setups just will not take. Be it on the vendor or customers side, it is just a reality. The best recourse is to always visit the vendors own forum, if they have one, or submit a support ticket with your issues and/or concerns. Sometimes things will happen, sometimes not.

Also, there was some criticism in the past of how Avira beta tests their software. Some stated it wasn’t opened enough, others stated more testing was needed. Avira has a enrollment page for any who ever wish to join. No, it won’t be like some where you just download a key and walla. Avira pulled this release at the last moment due to what was discovered. Some gave them heat for not finding the issue sooner.

The way I see it or the way I know it, Avira does not give its beta testers a raw product. For the most part it is very polished. Yes, things are found, and if you check back in this thread you will see where I posted the 4 phases of the beta and how they progressed.

All this leads me to say, that between Avira staff and the beta testers, a solid and superb product was delivered. Is it perfect on every machine? No and never will be. But you need to follow through with what I outlined above on hopefully getting your issue resolved so you can use it to its full potential.

Anyway, I aint tooting my own horn as I contributed very little. The quality and expertise of their beta testers has left me sitting in the dust on my own testing capibilities.:dry:

[031]

The free version is working just fine . Seems to be a stable release . Thanks to avira and all the beta testers :thumb:

[Mele20]

I have a totally crippled IE6 and all other browsers are also completely crippled by Avira 8. IE6 cannot load any pages with Avira installed. Fx, Opera and Safari load each page on any website forever. I have to force them to stop loading a page.

I had not opened IE until a few minutes ago since installing a downloaded Avira 8 and doing a custom install. I did not have these problems with the internally upgraded Avira 8. I have the feeling this is because I declined the install of Webguard. The internally upgraded Avira 8 has webguard even if you decline it ...the files are all in the Avira folder. But a custom install where you decline the module...no Webguard files are installed.

Maybe it is some other problem, but I had no problems with surfing with the internally upgraded Avira 8 but I had webguard wanting to run. I downloaded Avira 8 from Avira about an hour ago, uninstalled the internally upgraded version, then installed the new one as a custom install and wham! horrible problems with surfing.

I uninstalled Avira and surfing is normal again. IE works perfectly and no browser loads any page forever.

So, lets don't wax poetic about how magnificent this Avira 8 is. I've been helping folks all evening in the Avira forum who are having problems...especially problems with Webguard. .

[trjam]

yes mele, you are the great savior.:dry:

One thing to remember is, everyone descriptive measuring stick of perfection, great,good, bad or terrible is completely different. What seems green to one, may be blue to another. What appears to be sour grapes to one turns out to be ripen orange to another. So I only reflect in my thoughts mele, what I envision from all of this. Nuff said, I will let you go back to helping others as you so eloquently put it.

[Mele20]

Hmm...seems to me that even you would agree that not being able to browse with Avira 8 installed is bad.

[trjam]

Cant argue that one. But again it doesnt apply to all or even many. But it is an issue that needs rectification.

[19monty64]

For the first time since version 6, it seems the free version upgraded flawlessly for most and the pay version has the issues. If web-guard has any issues (like the root-kit scanner) I know I'd find'em.....

[Big Apple]

-{ Quote: "I have a totally crippled IE6 and all other browsers are also completely crippled by Avira 8. IE6 cannot load any pages with Avira installed. Fx, Opera and Safari load each page on any website forever. I have to force them to stop loading a page.

I had not opened IE until a few minutes ago since installing a downloaded Avira 8 and doing a custom install. I did not have these problems with the internally upgraded Avira 8. I have the feeling this is because I declined the install of Webguard. The internally upgraded Avira 8 has webguard even if you decline it ...the files are all in the Avira folder. But a custom install where you decline the module...no Webguard files are installed.

Maybe it is some other problem, but I had no problems with surfing with the internally upgraded Avira 8 but I had webguard wanting to run. I downloaded Avira 8 from Avira about an hour ago, uninstalled the internally upgraded version, then installed the new one as a custom install and wham! horrible problems with surfing.

I uninstalled Avira and surfing is normal again. IE works perfectly and no browser loads any page forever.

So, lets don't wax poetic about how magnificent this Avira 8 is. I've been helping folks all evening in the Avira forum who are having problems...especially problems with Webguard. ." }-

Like I said before......just wonder how good your current installtion of Windows is. All this sounds to me, that you're missing quite a few system files, maybe deleted by some regsitry cleaner.
Ofcourse I'm not sure if you're using a registry cleaner, but these complaints point that way.

[trjam]

yes mele, it isnt like you have never deleted any important Avira system files. You might want to process (http://forum.avira.com/thread.php?threadid=36471) this.;)

[Bunkhouse Buck]

-{ Quote: "Hmm...seems to me that even you would agree that not being able to browse with Avira 8 installed is bad." }-

At first, I thought everything was ok with the new security suite. I too was a beta tester and noticed at that time that some images/web pages in Firefox loaded slowly or not at all. Same problem now. Of course, it is my system. But as someone that has used computers since 1969, if I cannot get the program to work properly, I can deduce from that that many others are having the same (or worse) experience.

I uninstalled Avira and back to Dr. Web. No such problem with the good Dr.

[LoneWolf]

Well decieded not to wait any longer and install Avira 8.
Did not go so well. Did not install. V7 worked flawlessly and 8 not at all.
Oh well I'm sure its something in perticular to do with my system
No matter, I went back to Avast and it installed and is running great.

[Jadda]

Can anyone comfirm if the ad in the free version is removed in the new release? Or does it still beg you to buy the paid version, on boot?

[ola nordmann]

I have two questions regarding Avira v8:

#1 Will an installation of v7 automatically be upgraded to v8? And do you get a question first, so that you can hold it back if you would rather continue to use v7 for a while.

#2 I have always liked Avira because of low memory usage, and it works great on old computers. Is v8 lightweight like v7?

[cruelsister]

My version 7 upgraded automatically to version 8. The only thing that didn't start up automatically was the WebGuard, but I did get a popup on reboot asking me if I wanted to install it (it can also be disabled once installed).

I use IE7, Firefox 2, and Seamonkey interchangeably as browsers- all of which perform as before; no faster, certainly no slower. As to RAM use, it seems about the same- 3 modules (avgnt, avguard, and sched) taking up ~12,000K combined on my computer.

Although I'm sorry for the folks with the problems, for me the new version is wonderful. Among the highest in detection, the lowest in resource use, and lowest in intrusiveness.

[Banshee]

-{ Quote: "...Although I'm sorry for the folks with the problems, for me the new version is wonderful. Among the highest in detection, the lowest in resource use, and lowest in intrusiveness." }-


I am 100% with you here.

[Ocky]

Working very well here. No problems with Opera 9.27 and IE7, but then I
upgraded via update and did not opt to install Web Guard (because I
use Proxomitron). Full system scan is about 2 mins. faster and runs very
light.
However I would like to know whether the slide-up offering either install
or cancel for the Web Guard will appear ad infinitum if one opts for cancel.
The slide-up appears after reboot. I have rebooted 2x since install and
it appeared both times. 'Cancel' doesn't seem to be remembered.

[cruelsister]

Why not install it then disable it on the main GUI? May be less aggravation now, and it would be there if you ever changed your mind in the future.

[Macstorm]

-{ Quote: "I use IE 7 and I must say......I've tried every browser available and I always turn back to IE, never have problems with it and I even find it the fastest!" }-
Wise guy :thumb:

[C.S.J]

-{ Quote: "Wise guy :thumb:" }-
yep, im a Firefox fan but always seem to be going back to IE.

simply because, things work as they should.

when my new laptop arrives, i might just go back to IE completely.

[waters]

If i have a file in quarentine,how do i send it to virus total

[Diver]

If IE or any other browser does not work, chances are the firewall is not allowing it to connect out on port 44080 TCP. Its not unusual for the ultra paranoid limit IE to ports 80 and 443.

As usual the bashing and whining goes on, and the whiners wind up a few hours later saying they fixed the problem with some simple thing like a reboot.

Anyone who has lots of active security software should expect their systems to be buggy. The best security comes from OS hardening such as DEP, LUA and SRP.

[Carver]

I like Avira 8, after I downloaded the update and installed the update I rebooted nothing about the webguard so I rebooted again this time I got the dialog about installing the webguard..but the words install or cancel on teh GUI was in german..thr rest in english..odd. The manual update is faster.

[Macstorm]

As always, I think most problems seen here are due to upgrading over the previous build :dry:

[mllopes]

Well, i have installed Avira for the first time in my computer and of course version 8.
No indication of reboot needed, no information about webguard nothing,
Still i have rebooted anyway and everything is working flawless:)
It is working alongside with OA with intercept loopback interface checked

[Macstorm]

-{ Quote: "Anyone who has lots of active security software should expect their systems to be buggy." }-
Couldn't say it better myself ;)

[LoneWolf]

-{ Quote: "As always, I think most problems seen here are due to upgrading over the previous build :dry:" }-

Most?.....maybe......mine.......no.
I did a complete uninstall,shut everything else down and reinstall.
Downloaded quick, durring install comp did an unexpected reboot then ckdisc did its thing. After windows started up my desktop had an icon for Avira but it did not look right,kinda blank.It was only partly installed.
So I did a roll back and put Avast on instead.

[stapp]

Just done a scan which was quite fast although the GUI does not reflect the fact that I have done one. Also did a manual definitions update this afternoon, no problems, everything running well.

In the scan avira gave this warning......

C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\systemprofile\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\ZAS99JKD\iv_nt86[1].exe
[WARNING] No further files can be extracted from this archive. The archive will be closed

Has anyone any idea what this is? The nearest I could get to with google was CA associates (which I did have on quite a few years ago.)

http://www.prevx.com/filenames/X2081005313078962174-0/IV_NT86.EXE.html

[Macstorm]

-{ Quote: "Most?.....maybe......mine.......no.
I did a complete uninstall,shut everything else down and reinstall.
Downloaded quick, durring install comp did an unexpected reboot then ckdisc did its thing. After windows started up my desktop had an icon for Avira but it did not look right,kinda blank.It was only partly installed.
So I did a roll back and put Avast on instead." }-
did you use a good registry cleaner in between installs? mine finds hundreds of broken keys after uninstallations.

[LoneWolf]

-{ Quote: "did you use a good registry cleaner in between installs? mine finds hundreds of broken keys after uninstallations." }-

Yes I did

[Antarctica]

-{ Quote: "Most?.....maybe......mine.......no.
I did a complete uninstall,shut everything else down and reinstall.
Downloaded quick, durring install comp did an unexpected reboot then ckdisc did its thing. After windows started up my desktop had an icon for Avira but it did not look right,kinda blank.It was only partly installed.
So I did a roll back and put Avast on instead." }-


This is strange because I have similar problems, cannot install Antivir 8.0 at all. I did post on their Forum but so far all the suggestions did not help.

[KoRnGtL15]

Trouble in paradise. I noticed my internet speed took a massive hit. Disabled webguard and my speeds are back to normal. Never had this problem before. I done a direct upgrade. Noticed it was slow. Then I done a clean install. Noticed my internet was still slow. Disabled webguard as stated. We are back to normal speeds. Never had this problem with Avira 7 either. This is a webguard issue. This reminds me of the comodo firewall deal awile back. It hosed peoples connection. But, they did fix it. I know its a completely different product. But, this could be the case with Avira. I will leave it disabled and keep my eyes peeled for a possible fix.

[duke1959]

After having used AVG 8 and more recently Avast 4.8. I have to say Avira Premium so far seems to have the better Web Guard as far as Internet speeds. With AVG the slow downs were for the most part much more noticeable, but with Avast I actually would have to say it was extremely close. I did however, feel a general overall PC slowdown with Avast when compared to Avira. With Avira all my programs open fast including Firefox, and I'm very happy with the product. Coming from an habitual security program user, I am going on record as saying Avira will now remain my choice of Antivirus.

[Macstorm]

-{ Quote: "Yes I did" }-
Then it's obvious that something is conflicting in your system. Don't blame it on Avira ;)

[mick92z]

Has anyone else had troubles with Avira P.E Premium8 and Sandboxie. I have installed Avira8 on 2 computers,one on top of version 7,one on pc with nod (nearly expired ) Sandboxie fails to load on both computers.Stop Avira from startup ,all ok.The only workaround I have found,is to delay startup of Avira,using WinPatrol by 30 seconds.Have re-installed both programs,to no avail.Someone posted a similar problem with Avira and SB last year,so its not all down to V8.

[ggf31416]

-{ Quote: "Can anyone comfirm if the ad in the free version is removed in the new release? Or does it still beg you to buy the paid version, on boot?" }-

See the screenshot

[waters]

I am only running antivir and vista firewall and guess what,it runs great.I wonder why

[Big Apple]

-{ Quote: "did you use a good registry cleaner in between installs? mine finds hundreds of broken keys after uninstallations." }-

I bet, that using these so called 'good' registry cleaners do more harm than most will admit. It seems great to have some registry cleaner do the work for you, but believe me, most of them do more harm in deleting more, than they should.
I have tested a few and after cleaning the registry a few times, I couldn't even re-install some programs at all.
A lot of people think it's handy, that a piece of software cleans up the rubbish, but after using it for a while, you can notice, that more and more is missing and then, when installing new software......a lot won't work properly, as you can read here.

My policy......install and uninstall and re-install etc. and remove by hand what you can find and what you know of........and after so many months......do a clean re-install of Windows or put an image back. After a clean install of Windows, with the most used programs, use an image program to make an image and whenever your OS is all cluttered or whatever, put your image back and you're back in business within 10 minutes!

Same story for installing new software.......make an image and if there's something sour, put your good working image back and that's it.

[The_Duality]

Doing a reinstall now - Guard service just died a second time. :(

This is on Win Vista SP1. System was idle - running only Firefox and ModernRCON (A java application I use to remote administer my Call of Duty 4 servers).

:-\

[fatex]

WebGuard slowed my web browsing to a crawl... antivir 7 with no webguard was fine! they need to fix the bugs!!!!!!!!:thumbd:

[LoneWolf]

-{ Quote: "Then it's obvious that something is conflicting in your system. " }-

Good assumption ::)

-{ Quote: "Don't blame it on Avira ;)" }-

When did I say that ???
Read again.

[Macstorm]

-{ Quote: "I bet, that using these so called 'good' registry cleaners do more harm than most will admit. It seems great to have some registry cleaner do the work for you, but believe me, most of them do more harm in deleting more, than they should." }-
Thank god it's not my case.
There will be no harm if you choose the right tool/app for this task and if you know what you're doing with it :)

[Big Apple]

-{ Quote: "Thank god it's not my case.
There will be no harm if you choose the right tool/app for this task and if you know what you're doing with it :)" }-

That's what it is all about........'choose the right tool' and 'know what you're doing'.
Most cleaners suggest to do all this automatic, but that's where the trouble starts. Some use 'Green' selections, meaning they're safe to delete.......but my goodness, just look at these selections and you'll see things, that never should be deleted.

[KoRnGtL15]

Webguard is a persistant little bugga! As I said earlier. With it on. My internet speed takes a good hit. With it off. Its fine. Problem is. When I reboot. That damn webguard is enabled again! So, I uninstalled Avira. Once again. Then chose custom install. Installed every thing accept webguard. Things are back to normal.

[Macstorm]

-{ Quote: "Good assumption ::)
When did I say that ???
Read again." }-
Sorry, i didn't mean that exactly.

When i said that 'something is conflicting..' or 'don't blame it..'..i meant..ermm.. take a look around, thousands of happy avira v.8 users out there...all of them running it flawlessly.

There's always the avira forum, if you are resolved to fix your 'issues' (?) with this AV, of course.

[Macstorm]

-{ Quote: "That's what it is all about........'choose the right tool' and 'know what you're doing'.
Most cleaners suggest to do all this automatic, but that's where the trouble starts. Some use 'Green' selections, meaning they're safe to delete.......but my goodness, just look at these selections and you'll see things, that never should be deleted." }-
Can't say for others but mine at least offers 'normal' (my preferred) and 'advanced' options for the cleaning. It has never let me down 8)

[Jadda]

-{ Quote: "See the screenshot" }-

Thank you. To bad it's still there. :-\

[PiCo]

I don't think registry issues can be the cause for a program turning your system to a crawl.

A messed up registry would cause errors to pop-up every now and then, missing buttons on applications, malformed GUI applications, folders not opening, icons and items appearing on desktop with strange names that cannot be deleted etc.

Correct me if I'm wrong!

[Macstorm]

-{ Quote: "I don't think registry issues can be the cause for a program turning your system to a crawl." }-
Of course not. However a poorly maintained registry can severely degrade the overall performance of your pc and prevent programs from running/installing properly.

[trjam]

I have done a little testing today about the web scanner. One thing some of you may want to try is disabling other programs. I found with ShadowDefender, my web scanning did go down while in shadow mode. Out of shadowmode, it was very quick. So for me Avira stays.;)

But you might just want to try stuff like this to see.

[trjam]

With Sandboxie, fast with or without.:thumb:

[Macstorm]

-{ Quote: "I have done a little testing today about the web scanner. One thing some of you may want to try is disabling other programs." }-
This sounds familiar to me ;)

[osip]

I can´t even feel the breath from the webguard...with or without the same smooth surfing, the only thing I noticed is that it effects IDM download manager when downloading from Rapidshare Premium, temp disabling and it´s allright. Works perfectly with Comodo D+.

[Tommy]

Well, my Avira7 updated yesterday without problems to Avira 8. After a reboot the Webguard was installed and all features and guards are running without problems. I am a happy user. No slowdown at all with all guards enabled.

[Mele20]

-{ Quote: "As always, I think most problems seen here are due to upgrading over the previous build :dry:" }-

No, upgrading internally Avira 8 Premium was working fine without installing the Webguard but I did have the nag slideup at boot. It was doing the RIGHT THING and uninstalling Avira 8 and then downloading a fresh copy and installing it clean that produced the problem of all my browsers being unusable. I declined the Webguard module and that was different from the internal upgrade where the Webguard files are all in the Avira folder ...Webguard is installed and all the slideup at boot wants is for the user to ACTIVATE what is already there I think. When I installed a clean copy and declined Webguard module, that did something so that my browsers did not work properly and IE couldn't work at all.

I uninstalled it (the clean copy) again last night and all browsers were fine again. Just a little while ago, I downloaded from Avira website the FREE version and installed it. NO PROBLEMS WITH MY BROWSERS (at least so far). All browsers yesterday, even with Webguard not installed, were very sluggish and loaded pages continuously until Stop was clicked on EVERY page and IE could not load a page at any site although it tried and tried. Now, with the free Avira 8 installed and NO POSSIBILITY OF WEBGUARD (meaning no remnants...no nothing of webguard as with free there is no declining the module as it is not a choice) my browsers are blazing fast again just the same as if I had no AV installed.

Avira has a big bug here. I suggest that anyone with problems with their browsers should uninstall Avira premium or Security and install the free version for the time being and see if that fixes it as it has for me.

[pettyracing]

I am confused re: the latest version.

I d/l ver 8.01.00.30 on 4/11.

Latest ver on Avira website is shown as 8.1.00.331 on 4/14.

When I start update it tells me my program is up to date?

Just wondering if I have the latest version or if there WAS an update and I am not receiving it.

[Mele20]

-{ Quote: "I am confused re: the latest version.

I d/l ver 8.01.00.30 on 4/11.

Latest ver on Avira website is shown as 8.1.00.331 on 4/14.

When I start update it tells me my program is up to date?

Just wondering if I have the latest version or if there WAS an update and I am not receiving it." }-

8.01.00.30 is the search engine. I have that too. The product version I have is 8.01.00.30 from April 9.

[pettyracing]

-{ Quote: "8.01.00.30 is the search engine. I have that too. The product version I have is 8.01.00.30 from April 9." }-

Mele20:

Thanks VERY much for the explanation. After going to the ABOUT menu, I found the version numbers based on all the different avira types. I am a newbie to avira coming from nod32. Thanks for the reply and update.

[Hugger]

When I go to the Security Center it says 'Personal'.
But when I click on the tray icon it shows me having 'Premium'.
I'm inclined to believe the Avira screen.
Enjoy.
Hugger

[Brian N]

update.exe keeps crashing.

Might wanna try a beta test next time before releasing buggy software.

[djohn]

-{ Quote: "When I go to the Security Center it says 'Personal'.
But when I click on the tray icon it shows me having 'Premium'.
I'm inclined to believe the Avira screen.
Enjoy.
Hugger" }-
yep my security center says personal as well with vista.The avira premium has email scan and web guard if installed, the free version doesn't have email scan or web guard.

[innerpeace]

-{ Quote: "With Sandboxie, fast with or without.:thumb:" }-
The Web Guard does not work with Sandboxie, at least not on my machine.

Everything else seems to be working fine so far. I did a clean install because there were some major changes with version 8.

Somebody asked about System Restore and I also have mine disabled and everything worked ok.

[pykko]

-{ Quote: "update.exe keeps crashing.

Might wanna try a beta test next time before releasing buggy software." }-
for me it is working as it should. One of my friend has a problem with it.
I've posted on their forum... hope they'll look at it. You may post in that topic too maybe they will hurry up things.
Here: http://forum.avira.com/thread.php?threadid=36651

[osip]

Webguard with sandboxie works here...check online protection in GUI and the current url is shown + number of url:s checked. But to get a proper startup of SB seems to be a problem...Tried to put sbiectrl to exclusion but it does´nt help...

[rolarocka]

Sandboxie takes ages to load after boot and the Webguard isnt scanning sandboxed browsers for me, of course the real time guard scans all.

[innerpeace]

-{ Quote: "Webguard with sandboxie works here...check online protection in GUI and the current url is shown + number of url:s checked. But to get a proper startup of SB seems to be a problem...Tried to put sbiectrl to exclusion but it does´nt help..." }-
Hi osip, are you sure that Webguard is working with Sbie? Check to see if it actually scanning by going to different sites and see if the numbers in the GUI change. At first I thought it was working because the Avira GUI seems to refresh itself.

[trjam]

It works. When you open the GUI and click web guard, there is about a 1.5 second delay before the zeros in web gard show you the actual numbers. Minimize it and click different web sites. It works and it works effectively if you go to a known site that has issues.;)

[innerpeace]

I have to disagree. Webguard does work for me without using Sandboxie and I can see the URL numbers increase. When I sandbox Firefox, the numbers do not change. I also have a thread in the firewall forum originally about OA2 and Avira, but it's a Sandboxie/Avira problem.

Edit: My other thread is here. (http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=206383)

[trjam]

I am using IE7, maybe thats the issue.

[rolarocka]

With any browser i tried sandboxed i only get eicar alerts from the real time scanner but not from the webguard. Lets hope they fix it.

[innerpeace]

In my other thread in the link above, djohn said he was using IE7 and had the same results.

I'll reset sandboxie's internet restriction settings and fire up IE7 and see what I see. I'll be back shortly.

[innerpeace]

Ok, I checked with a sandboxed IE7 and Webguard is still not working here.

trjam, Are you sure the "number of scanned URLs" is increasing when running a sandboxed browser? There are 3 people here saying that it's not happening.

I'm not blaming either program, I just want them to work in harmony ;).

As a side note. My uninstall and new installation of Avira was flawless. I didn't even need to reboot as Webguard already installed. I still did 2 reboots afterwards regardless just to be sure. The whole process was done with Online Armor in Learning Mode.

[trjam]

no there is a issue because sandboxed and click on eicar test and nothing happens. Unsandboxed and click something does. Yep, Avira has some issues Houston. I am not at home to check the number of URLs going up, I thought it did but I honestly dont want to say without actually doing it for you.

Anyway, I think there is enough evidence there are issues with Web Guard. My question is, it was part of the suite before and not an issue.

[osip]

-{ Quote: "Hi osip, are you sure that Webguard is working with Sbie? Check to see if it actually scanning by going to different sites and see if the numbers in the GUI change. At first I thought it was working because the Avira GUI seems to refresh itself." }-

Yes, it works and the number increases...I´m with opera and have it in its own sandbox...

[trjam]

I thought it did last night. It is weird, some have issues some dont.

[innerpeace]

Thanks trjam,

It must be "growing pains" with the new version. Hopefully things will get straightened out soon. At least Avira is stable and the update went fine on my rig.

[innerpeace]

-{ Quote: "Yes, it works and the number increases...I´m with opera and have it in its own sandbox..." }-
Hmmm, this is very weird... I might try installing a different browser much later today and see if it makes any difference.

[osip]

...also, did´nt update to 8, installed from scratch..

[Diver]

Whether a clean install is needed or the automatic update from 7 works seems to be hit or miss. Webguard seemed to work better in Firefox in XP than Vista. It also seemed that Webguard would not work in Vista without installing Mailguard as well.

Its not perfect, but its a lot better than a recent version 8 release from someone else.

Does anyone know if the free version does not detect all types of spyware?

[djohn]

-{ Quote: "Yes, it works and the number increases...I´m with opera and have it in its own sandbox..." }-
So are you saying operea has its own sandbox? and webguard scans with in it.I am just wondering, being a IE7 and firefox user,what does opera sandbox do diffrent then sandboxie?.

[trjam]

He is just saying he has Opera sandboxed. It does not have its own. Also now that I can check, my web guard is working fine. Yes the numbers go up each time I click a link, web page or even go back. And this is Sandboxed. :thumb:

[djohn]

As I said in another post I use IE7 on vista and have the same issue where web guard will not scan for me sandboxed.Oh Well no worrys of webguard anyways,I feel my real webguards are sandboxie and returnil.

[cruelsister]

Perhaps those with Avira Issues should post the operating system being used. A quick poll of my friends showed none with problems, but then they all use either XP or 2008 Server (as desktop).

Perhaps it's a Vista bug? Wouldn't be the first.

[trjam]

I am using Vista and SP1

[djohn]

-{ Quote: "He is just saying he has Opera sandboxed. It does not have its own. Also now that I can check, my web guard is working fine. Yes the numbers go up each time I click a link, web page or even go back. And this is Sandboxed. :thumb:" }-
Oh! ok thanks now I get it,my bad.

[djohn]

-{ Quote: "Perhaps those with Avira Issues should post the operating system being used. A quick poll of my friends showed none with problems, but then they all use either XP or 2008 Server (as desktop).

Perhaps it's a Vista bug? Wouldn't be the first." }-what? you mean there is bugs in vista Oh no, I thought windows was flawless::)

[cruelsister]

OT about Vista- I went a couple of weeks ago to the Windows 2008 dog and pony show, and in the swag bag that was given out were fully licensed copies of Vista Ultimate. Guess Microsoft saw the surveys that had less than 20% of IT folks having any intention of using Vista anywhere.

But 2008 Server rocks as a desktop OS.

[SourMilk]

-{ Quote: "what? you mean there is bugs in vista Oh no, I thought windows was flawless::)" }-

Windows IS flawless. It's the customers that can't get it right. Just ask Bill and Steve. ;D

[djohn]

-{ Quote: "Windows IS flawless. It's the customers that can't get it right. Just ask Bill and Steve. ;D" }-
LMAO;D

[DVD+R]

Whats with the Rescue CD Download from the GUI ??? I just downloaded it,and when I boot into it, First it Says is Avira Rescue CD LINUX Version :blink: and then when I click on english it still loads in German :blink:

Ok I can understand German perfectly well but still I'd like it to load in English :doubt:

[mick92z]

-{ Quote: "Whats with the Rescue CD Download from the GUI ??? I just downloaded it,and when I boot into it, First it Says is Avira Rescue CD LINUX Version :blink: and then when I click on english it still loads in German :blink:

Ok I can understand German perfectly well but still I'd like it to load in English :doubt:" }-
http://forum.avira.com/thread.php?threadid=35757&hilight=rescue+cd

[Diver]

There is definitely something wrong with Webguard when using Firefox in Vista. Try clicking on eicar.com.txt at the Eicar site. The behavior is the same for IE7 in Vista, IE6 in XP and Firefox in XP. The item is stopped by Webguard and the browser displays a message.

In Vista with Firefox the file is displayed as text by the browser and Webguard does nothing.

Its something worth looking into.

[osip]

well, here I get:
-{ Quote: "Access to the data has been denied!
Warning: A virus or unwanted program has been found in the HTTP Data.
Requested URL: http://www.eicar.org/download/eicar.com.txt
Information: Contains code of the Eicar-Test-Signature virus
Generated by AntiVir WebGuard 8.0.13.0, AVE 8.1.0.30, VDF 7.0.3.176" }-

[Banshee]

-{ Quote: "There is definitely something wrong with Webguard when using Firefox in Vista. Try clicking on eicar.com.txt at the Eicar site. The behavior is the same for IE7 in Vista, IE6 in XP and Firefox in XP. The item is stopped by Webguard and the browser displays a message.

In Vista with Firefox the file is displayed as text by the browser and Webguard does nothing.

Its something worth looking into." }-




This happens to me as well but only when I have my browser sandboxed.Actually the webguard does not work at all if I sandbox my browser,

[King Grub]

-{ Quote: "In Vista with Firefox the file is displayed as text by the browser and Webguard does nothing.

Its something worth looking into." }-

Not for me; I get

"Access to the data has been denied!

Warning: A virus or unwanted program has been found in the HTTP Data.

Requested URL: http://www.eicar.org/download/eicar.com

Generated by AntiVir WebGuard 8.0.13.0, AVE 8.1.0.30, VDF 7.0.3.175"

As it is supposed to be.

[Ocky]

I posted this in Avira forums earlier today, but they are understandably
rather busy.
-{ Quote: " As I didn't always want to click 'Abbrechen' (cancel) for installing
the WebGuard after every boot, I installed WebGuard via Add/Remove and
then deactivated it in the GUI.
Strange then that my Comodo 2.4 FW alerts to avwebgrd.exe wanting to
establish a connection, parent being C:\WINDOWS\system32\sevices.exe
It also asks for approval of the Avira msgclient.dll
Can I safely allow this bearing in mind that WebGuard is deactivated ?

(The WebGuard service itself cannot be stopped/disabled on it's own
without affecting protection provided by MailGuard).

Edit: avwebgrd.exe permanently listens for TCP connections on local port
44080 - despite deactivated." }-

On Windows XP SP2

[Diver]

For those of you testing Eicar and Webguard, the problem is with eicar.com.txt, not eicar.com. It is only with Firefox under vista and only on a regular left click. A right click on the eicar.com.txt file does produce a warning, but without the message in the browser, still not exactly the way it should be.

There does not appear to be a problem with IE6 - XP, IE7 - Vista or Firefox under XP. From the posts above, it seems some of you are trying different things from what I did.

The other thing I noticed is the Commit Charge in XP goes up about 45 MB when Webguard is installed. Perhaps I should not worry as I have 2 Gigs, but I wonder where that memory is going.

[FRug]

Diver: can't confirm using Vista and firefox, clear your cache and try again. Maybe you'Ve got it in your cache, that way it will of course not pass through the webguard proxy. If properly configured, your guard will take care of it then (allfiles scan).

Also if you chose "ignore", the eicar.com.txt will end up in your cache, subsequent access will then not be covered by webguard as there is no more "real" internet access. This is where the normal guard will kick in.

[waters]

Vista and Firefox access denied here

[trjam]

All I know is it works with me with Vista and IE7. Iminimize web guard, click on my space or any other site, and as soon as I click on it and bring web guard up, it is showing the last scanned URL which is the site I am on.

[trjam]

Damn, but in report file this is what I see from just now.

- Report level: 1

4/16/2008,14:37:16 [ERROR] Error receiving data from client. Error 2
4/16/2008,14:39:26 [ERROR] Error receiving data from client. Error 2
4/16/2008,14:39:56 [ERROR] Error receiving data from client. Error 2
4/16/2008,14:40:54 [ERROR] Error receiving data from client. Error 2

[trjam]

Yeah, Avira Web Guard and Sandboxie a no go. Go to the Eicar test site. Click the top txt.com file while Sandboxed, no detection. Click the same file with IE7 unsandboxed and Avira slams it. There is a problem Houston.:-\

[Trespasser]

The Eicar test worked fine for me in Firefox, AntiVir 8 Free, and Sandboxie. Caught the thing just after I clicked on it.

[19monty64]

As an OT, I use the free version of AntiVir. When it got the root-kit scanner I had to custom-install without the rkd. Since the auto-update went without a hitch, I decided to tempt fate and tried a clean-reinstall. Used the default-install (with root-kit scanner) and am happy to report that AntiVir on XP working flawlessly??? Again, it's the free-version though.
8) I hope they don't offer the web-guard to free-users..... 8)

[Diver]

-{ Quote: "Diver: can't confirm using Vista and firefox, clear your cache and try again. Maybe you'Ve got it in your cache, that way it will of course not pass through the webguard proxy. If properly configured, your guard will take care of it then (allfiles scan).

Also if you chose "ignore", the eicar.com.txt will end up in your cache, subsequent access will then not be covered by webguard as there is no more "real" internet access. This is where the normal guard will kick in." }-

That is worth a try, when I get around to restoring the Vista image. Both XP and Vista on the same box, but not dual boot, just Acronis.

Edit: You are probably right, I just put Veesta back on and Webguard worked the way it should with FF. Now, if I can fix all the other stuff that is wrong with that #$%^%!& operating system.

[tepe2]

As many post here is about the Webguard (which I dont have) I have not read all post carefully, so sorry if something similar has been posted before. Here is some info on how to stop the popup in the free version:

http://www.tipsfor.us/2007/08/15/make-avira-antivir-free-edition-more-usable/

I have not tried this so I dont know if it works. I tried to block it with OA firewall and it worked.

Some say Webguard work with SB, some say not. Maybe that depends on SB configuration? Im sure someone will find solution. I dont think OA Webguard work with SB.

I had free version 7 and clicked update from within the program and update to version 8 seems ok. I dont think I have lost my settings, but I have not had time for a closer look.

[trjam]

But,,,,Aviras Web scanning works marvelous with Geswall. Including the dumb Eicar test. So I prefer Geswall over Sandboxie anyway.;)

[Nike_P]

is there a special site or something were i can test if Avira's Web scan work's?

[jtcst]

-{ Quote: "is there a special site or something were i can test if Avira's Web scan work's?" }-

http://www.eicar.org/anti_virus_test_file.htm

[mrfargoreed]

A few teething problems here - occasionally getting the message that one of the Avira services has stopped.

Otherwise not much different to version 7 - no lag on my machine. WebGuard works perfectly with SafeSpace.

I did update to version 7 as opposed to a clean install, which might be causing the service stopping occasionally, so will clean install in a day or two.

No intention of changing my AV yet. ;)

[rookieman]

I never did get the guard running.:-[ I downloaded the free version and the same results.What is strange though is I tried AVG with no problems and Avast Pro with not a problem at all.:D By the way i'm not whining over this:)

[mfenech]

Has anyone used speedtest.net since getting Avira 8? With Webguard active, I'm getting 11mb download speeds when I should be seeing 2.6mb. I'm guessing the test data is being bottlenecked in my PC and my results reflect the data being released all at once. With Webguard inactive, everything's normal.

[trjam]

try it with Speakeasy.com and watch your results.::)

[Killtek]

WebGuard works perfect with SafeSpace... :)

[trjam]

running the suite alone, and the heck with all the fluff security products and working perfect. Now I can take a vacation.8)

Time to ride!

[DasFox]

Seems like Webguard is giving quite a number of users problems, I won't use it...:thumbd:

[mfenech]

I shut it off for now also, but is there a way to keep it off? I have to deactivate it every time i boot.

[Big Apple]

Is there any option to save the Avira configurations for future installations?

[waters]

Trjam,it could be working perfect because you are running the suite alone

[waters]

On their shop it says Webguard available in suite and not the premium.I have premium with webguard but if i bought the suite would i lose the 6 months i have left on premium

[Mele20]

-{ Quote: "I shut it off for now also, but is there a way to keep it off? I have to deactivate it every time i boot." }-

Nicholae stated a few hours ago that if you click on that you won't get Webguard installed if you have the Premium version. He says you will get Backup installed instead because Avira made a mistake. He insists that Webguard is available ONLY for the Suite. He is wrong of course, but to have one of the two Avira techs make that bad of a mistake (and I called him on it and he still says Webguard is available only for the Suite) well..... :( The person who started the thread called him on it too.

Pay no attention to what Avira says about Webguard. They don't understand their own damn creation or how much damage it can do to a computer. I just tried to use System Restore to a point before the internal upgrade that messed up my browsers so badly because of Webguard. I have 90 restore points and ALL OF THEM before the April 14 internal upgrade to Avira 8 are invalid! I had this happen only one other time in all the years I've had XP and that was when Kaspersky got in a restore point and deleted eicar. (I had just gotten a beta version that tech support had directed me to get and I hadn't yet excluded System Volume Information from the KAV scanners). System Restore has been very stable for me partly because I don't let an AV scan System Volume Information. I think that before I had a chance to exclude it again after the internal Avira 8 upgrade (my settings were gone after that internal upgrade) that Guard got in there and screwed up a restore point thus invalidating all restore points before it. Nothing has ever screwed System Restore for me except an Antivirus program.

Anyhow, if you want to stop Webguard from wanting to install you need to uninstall Avira and use the Avira registry tool to clean and then fetch a clean copy of ver 8 and install it, choose custom install and decline Webguard. See, if you have ver 8 from the internal upgrade, you already have all the webguard files in the Avira folder. That is how arrogant Avira has been. They shoved the garbage down your throat assuming every single person would be thrilled to have Webguard. And they are so arrogant that they will not admit their mistake now and their techs are posting wrong information about Premium saying Webguard does not come on Premium ...UGH! You need a copy of Avira that does not contain those damn files if you are not going to use Webguard. Avira made a major mistake in forcing that upgrade from within and sticking all those files on people's computers. If Avira had to have internal upgrade then they should have made Webguard an entirely separate download and installation so that only those who wanted it and knew they would not have problems with it would have gotten the files. Instead Avira forced the files on everyone...even though I told in the beta how bad it was for me. It never occured to me that they would force the Webguard files on me if I did the internal upgrade. Webguard was running even though I did not install it. This is actually worse than what Kaspersky did with chkdsk.

[Blackcat]

-{ Quote: "I shut it off for now also, but is there a way to keep it off? I have to deactivate it every time i boot." }-
Start>Settings>Control Panel>Add or Remove Programs>Avira AntiVir Premium>Change>Modify

then just deselect the WebGuard.

[Mele20]

-{ Quote: "Start>Settings>Control Panel>Add or Remove Programs>Avira AntiVir Premium>Change>Modify

then just deselect the WebGuard." }-

Haven't you read the Avira forum? That doesn't work for many.

[Jadda]

I guess that not everyone on this forum, hangs over at Avira's forum.

[trjam]

no offense mele but why dont you just shoot your computer and get it over with. I mean I just read about 30 threads comepletly over their and you, yes you, are the only one that is acting like the new version has brought us to the brink of total world destruction. To even compare it to chk/dsk is totally assine on your part and just made me realize how little you actually know. Issues? Some, but I challenge you to show me the multitudes you speak of that are basically having to gut their PC because of this release.

Again no offense, your offer some solid feedback when it comes to problem solving and then other times you sound like a raving lunatic. Which is it? Peace bro.