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anderb
March 22nd, 2008, 06:26 PM
Hello friends I need your valuable opinion,I installed this av last week and I´d like to know if I need an antispyware or it´s not necessary?Thanks:)

lodore
March 22nd, 2008, 06:36 PM
i would say not nessacessy.
but you can always install superantispyware free version and run an ondemand every so often.
www.superantispyware.com

virtumonde
March 22nd, 2008, 06:47 PM
Virus scan plus It has it's own anti-spyware module,system guard, i would say you don't need another one ,certainly not for real time.If u want something for on-demand Lodore's suggestion is good.

anderb
March 22nd, 2008, 07:22 PM
Thank you all my friends for the quick replies:thumb:

C.S.J
March 22nd, 2008, 07:23 PM
nope, not needed.

EliteKiller
March 23rd, 2008, 12:12 AM
McAfee's detection rates aren't all that impressive, and a lot of the infected pc's that I have been cleaning over the past year alone are using McAfee or Norton. IMO you would benefit from a quality real-time or on-demand anti-spyware. SUPERAntiSpyware in real-time will not tax your system and co-exists with McAfee just fine.

bigc73542
March 23rd, 2008, 09:52 AM
I am useing McAfee AV+ and the AS module has worked well or else I never get near spyware. This is the second one year subscription I have had it and never been infected.

bigc

EliteKiller
March 23rd, 2008, 10:09 AM
{QUOTE-> I am useing McAfee AV+ and the AS module has worked well or else I never get near spyware. This is the second one year subscription I have had it and never been infected.

bigc <-QUOTE}
There's a good possibility you'd refrain from being infected even if you didn't use an AV. Not everyone uses common sense when they sit in front of the keyboard, nor are most people educated on how they get infected in the first place. It's sort of like those posts where people claim brand X software isn't worth it because the scans are coming up clean.

Perman
March 23rd, 2008, 10:16 AM
Hi,

Nice to hear someone saying Common Sense is good enough to ward off evils.

But after reading some reports concerning a widely spread virus infection currently on NET; new strain of diskkill, namely WormWin32.Diskgen

it not only disables your favorite AV,AT alike, but injects a down loader to d/l trojan into your system 32 files.

I would be very worry without any sort of AV(with current updates).

Take care.

The Hammer
March 23rd, 2008, 10:24 AM
{QUOTE-> a lot of the infected pc's that I have been cleaning over the past year alone are using McAfee or Norton. IMO you would benefit from a quality real-time or on-demand anti-spyware. SUPERAntiSpyware in real-time will not tax your system and co-exists with McAfee just fine. <-QUOTE}And this is proof of what? If any other Av's were in such widespread use as those, you could say the same about them. A separate AS program is usually a good idea and SAS is probably as good as any. The real problem with most of the machines you clean up exist between the keyboard and chair.

Fly
March 23rd, 2008, 04:16 PM
{QUOTE-> Hello friends I need your valuable opinion,I installed this av last week and I´d like to know if I need an antispyware or it´s not necessary?Thanks:) <-QUOTE}

I presume you have the 2008 version ? It should have security center 8.0.247

I think this version provides reasonable antispyware protection, but it's really better to add a real antispyware program.

I don't know SAS.

Counterspy might be the best choice, IF you know how to configure BOTH McAfee and Counterspy, otherwise they will interfere with each other.
(For McAfee, that's probably 'display smart recommendations' instead of 'enable smart recommendations', for a start)

I think that the Spy Sweeper (don't buy the one WITH antivirus !) should also provide decent additional protection, I am not aware of any conflicts with McAfee.

But honestly, I think that it's important to configure each security program properly, the 'out of the box' settings are just insufficient, but if you don't have the knowledge, the default settings are USUALLY better than nothing. Assuming that the default settings will not cause conflicts between security programs.

Fly
March 23rd, 2008, 04:24 PM
Not particulary relevant to this thread, but spelling as used varies from individual to individual, and I'm uncertain about the correct English spelling:

anti-virus or antivirus ?
anti-spyware or antispyware ?

English isn't my first language.

Jadda
March 23rd, 2008, 04:53 PM
Antivirus and Antispyware.

Dorn
March 23rd, 2008, 05:22 PM
dont know but i never really belived 100% in mcafee, and specially not the big companies like: mcafee, f-secure, etc. it´s just a feeling:-\

Jadda
March 23rd, 2008, 06:50 PM
I'd rather trust big companies than the small ones. Imo. :)

computer geek
March 23rd, 2008, 07:19 PM
{QUOTE-> McAfee's detection rates aren't all that impressive, and a lot of the infected pc's that I have been cleaning over the past year alone are using McAfee or Norton. IMO you would benefit from a quality real-time or on-demand anti-spyware. SUPERAntiSpyware in real-time will not tax your system and co-exists with McAfee just fine. <-QUOTE}
Lets hope the 'big engine upgrade will shake things up'
Mcafee's spyware detection is quite good, otherwise called PUPS. What i don't like them, and their excuse for not removing them most of the time except tracking cookies, is that they conflict with the 'so called lisence agreement with the spyware program' so mcafee will not remove it. That,i think, is the main drawback, why have a av/as program if as groans about lisence agreements everyday? Its best advice is to uninstall the spyware program, thats what it says, which is stupid. what right did they have to install spyware on my computer? so why can't mcafee remove it? is it a massive coverup? also, if you go to the remove pups website for help, it gives you help for only the enterprise, and old versions, how crap is that? then you contact tech support, who act like bots and take 10 mins to respond to one question. then, they recommend freescan, stupid again, then they say next superdat will remove it, which i've fallen for over 10 times, and never happens, then they refer you to pup removel team which was 30 quid, i would just have a online scan with fsecure or cureit, and a bit off topic, but has anyone seen the globel threat level ever move from elevated?

computer geek
March 23rd, 2008, 07:20 PM
{QUOTE-> I'd rather trust big companies than the small ones. Imo. :) <-QUOTE}
by saying that you are saying you would swap drweb for norton?!!!!!!

Jadda
March 23rd, 2008, 07:23 PM
If I liked it better, yes. But I do not switch to Norton (Symantec), just because they are bigger, but I'm saying that I trust bigger companies more, than the small ones.

But then again, I trust all the antivirus companies that are out there which are a little bit well known. Either if they are small or big. I'm just refering to Dorn, who trust smaller companies more, than big companies. And I have a different opinion. But don't take me wrong, I trust Dr.Web, Avast and alle the smaller companies. It's not that.

Macstorm
March 23rd, 2008, 08:19 PM
{QUOTE-> I'd rather trust big companies than the small ones. Imo. :) <-QUOTE}
Then get rid of Norman ;D :)

trjam
March 23rd, 2008, 08:49 PM
{QUOTE-> I'd rather trust big companies than the small ones. Imo. :) <-QUOTE}
Personally, I dont give a damn of the size of the company. I do care as to if their product protects or not. That to me is the key.

C.S.J
March 23rd, 2008, 09:52 PM
big companys seem to forget about the little people.

computer geek
March 24th, 2008, 06:26 AM
{QUOTE-> big companys seem to forget about the little people. <-QUOTE}
who are often better.

Jadda
March 24th, 2008, 07:14 AM
{QUOTE-> Personally, I dont give a damn of the size of the company. I do care as to if their product protects or not. That to me is the key. <-QUOTE}

{QUOTE-> Then get rid of Norman ;D :) <-QUOTE}

I haven't said that I DO NOT USE antivirus software from smaller companies! I just said that I trust bigger companies more, but that does NOT mean that I do not trust the small ones either. I was just refering to the guy who trusted the small ones more, and I'd RATHER trust the big ones. I have never said I do NOT trust the small ones. ;) (which I've proably said 3 times before in this post) I do not use Norton, McAfee, CA and those softwares.

Get it? If I hadn't trust the small ones, why in the name of god, did I buy a Dr.Web key?

And for Norman, I like it. They are not to big, no, but it protect me well. ;)

Anyways, this is way off-topic, so I'll end it here. :)

Perman
March 24th, 2008, 05:23 PM
Hi, folks:

We all know that

It takes a long time and lots of hard work to build a good will. Those BIG names have been around for a long time, and their staff have worked very hard everyday to maintain its true value.

Personal preferences normally will not dictate these products' futures, nor their fortunes.

Many ISP, institutions, and corporations use these big names' products.
To say these products are inferior or of second level quality, may not truly reflect their real colour.

Their products or associated services may not be that perfect or to your liking, but they are around today, and bet you one loonie, they will be above the water line next day and on. After all, it is very hard to rock a big boat.

In some tech field, there are some undisputed advantages of using BIG names. Of course with some exceptions of excellent boutique-style products.

Take care.

mercurie
March 25th, 2008, 06:37 PM
I have suffered no infections when using this product and cross checking it with other products both free and paid nothing seems to have been missed.

It has been said that it depends on the person behind the key board while there is truth to this, it is does not add much comfort in using the product as protection. :-[

Makav3l1
March 25th, 2008, 09:13 PM
I've been using Enterprise 8.5.0i for years and haven't ever had a problem with it.

yeuxbleus
March 25th, 2008, 11:13 PM
{QUOTE-> I've been using Enterprise 8.5.0i for years and haven't ever had a problem with it. <-QUOTE}
How does a home user get hold of that version? ???

Makav3l1
March 25th, 2008, 11:15 PM
I got the installer through my college. It's not hard to find it on the internet and it has a perpetual license option so it never runs out.

eBBox
March 26th, 2008, 04:47 AM
{QUOTE-> I've been using Enterprise 8.5.0i for years and haven't ever had a problem with it. <-QUOTE}

It hasen't been out for years :P But anyway, its a great, effective and light product. You dont get the spyware add-on by your college?

Makav3l1
March 26th, 2008, 10:44 AM
It has an unwanted programs list that includes spyware, adware, etc. Does that count?

I used 8.0i and then switched to 8.5.0i so I have used it for awhile. I'm actually fairly certain 8.5.0i has been out for awhile.

Makav3l1
March 26th, 2008, 11:20 AM
I looked up the antispyware module and no my school doesn't offer it. I got it somewhere else and now I have the module installed perpetually also. Thanks for the heads up.

eBBox
March 26th, 2008, 12:24 PM
NP- Its great working product ;)

computer geek
March 26th, 2008, 12:43 PM
{QUOTE-> NP- Its great working product ;) <-QUOTE}
yes, if you know how to work it, it is a great av

Perman
March 26th, 2008, 03:29 PM
{QUOTE-> How does a home user get hold of that version? ??? <-QUOTE}
Hi,

you need a Grant Number to d/l and install it. (enterprise v.8.5i with AS)

A great product, seems to get along with lots of security products.

If you are careful enough when installing it, you get it for lifetime. :)

Makav3l1
March 26th, 2008, 04:01 PM
You don't need the grant number to install it. The people who get the installer originally probably needed a grant number. Once you have the installer it doesn't ask for any information.

lodore
March 27th, 2008, 05:44 PM
my college uses mcafee enterprize. i wonder if i can get hold of it.
it does seem to be a decent product and much better than the home user versions.

Perman
March 27th, 2008, 05:52 PM
Hi,

The Enterprise version is not that popular among home users due to its availability. But..

Once you get a hold of it, you will hug it days and nights.

I have traded personal edition for it. :)

Jadda
March 27th, 2008, 05:54 PM
I have the Enterprise on one of my laptops. Is it really good? I have just seen on it as a reagular product, which its performance is as good as the home edition to McAfee.

Perman
March 27th, 2008, 06:07 PM
Hi,

IMO, all the brand name AV's are good to some extent, individual discretion will play the final say.

What I like McAfee Enterprise is that it seldom causes any harms or problems with other security applications. I often try out any new security stuff, and it never lets me down.

It gives me decent(may not be the best, compared to some others)protection, also provides me good-feeling comfort using it and my box.

That is why I like it a lot.

Makav3l1
March 27th, 2008, 06:54 PM
Yea, it works well for me and is very light. I even have it running with no slowdown on my oldest Athlon 775 thunderbird computer, so it can run on anything.

computer geek
April 18th, 2008, 08:32 AM
You don't need AS, but do select all of the things from options.
Also, I would just use spybot every one in a while to reassure me.

gery
April 18th, 2008, 12:57 PM
i am using AVG 8 AV on my laptop and Avast4.8 on my desktop and almost never had a problem with them. So i would say that it is often a matter of impression the set up of the protection and sure enough it will matter sometimes to which combo one will choose.