View Full Version : The REAL reason we use Linux
clansman77
March 19th, 2008, 09:47 AM
-{ Quote: "We tell people we use Linux because it's secure. Or because it's free, because it's customizable, because it's free (the other meaning), because it has excellent community support...
But all of that is just marketing ********. We tell that to non-Linuxers because they wouldn't understand the real reason. And when we say those false reasons enough, we might even start to believe them ourselves.
But deep underneath, the real reason remains." }-
READ (http://blog.anamazingmind.com/2008/03/real-reason-we-use-linux.html)
what is your reason ??
Huupi
March 19th, 2008, 10:44 AM
This confirm my thinking, its all about toys. ;)
But to be honest as more companies and computer vendors are using and providing Ubuntu,its get to be serious
NGRhodes
March 19th, 2008, 10:57 AM
Nice article.
Simple answer - the freedom.
Without getting into the subject of prefering one OS over an other, I like how you can learn and tweak and play about with Linux, I like the OS design and structure, makes it a joy to work with (where other OSes can be really fustrating). I like the communities. I like the choice, you can build from scratch or get a complete running desktop OS. I like the way Linux evolves to its users needs, distros fork, new ones created, rather than being forced to use one OS in a specific way, it can be 100% tailored to your specific needs.
DasFox
March 19th, 2008, 11:12 PM
-{ Quote: "We tell people we use Linux because it's secure. Or because it's free, because it's customizable, because it's free (the other meaning), because it has excellent community support...
But all of that is just marketing ********. We tell that to non-Linuxers because they wouldn't understand the real reason. And when we say those false reasons enough, we might even start to believe them ourselves.
But deep underneath, the real reason remains.
READ (http://blog.anamazingmind.com/2008/03/real-reason-we-use-linux.html)
what is your reason ??" }-
It's not marketing Bull **** many Linux geek use it because it's free and they don't want to buy into proprietary software, and that happens to be one of the BIGGEST reasons!
There aren't any deep underneath real reasons that remain hidden and secretive.
I'm a Linux geek of 10 years, I know the world of Linux as good as any Unix geek out there, and there are TONS of reasons...
Talking the way you are stating this is really BS, no offense intended, but don't make it sound like there is something special to all of this, because there isn't.
Everyone out there that uses Linux uses it for different reasons, and not just what's being stated on that blog...
solcroft
March 19th, 2008, 11:22 PM
If malware ever becomes as prevalent under Linux as it is now under Windows, then I might consider it. Until then, it's just no fun at all. :thumbd:
zapjb
March 20th, 2008, 02:03 AM
I use it because I save 5-10 hours weekly on scans, updates, tweaking & defragging that I was doing in doze.
Edit: And making a personalised LiveDVD is sooo EASY.
Please don't go from one billionaires OS to another billionaires distro.
BlueZannetti
March 20th, 2008, 06:45 AM
-{ Quote: "Everyone out there that uses Linux uses it for different reasons, and not just what you are stating." }-It's probably worthwhile to note that the text in clansman77's opening is quoting the link provided to Vlad Dolezal's blog entry. I've edited it as such to underscore that connection....
Blue
clansman77
March 20th, 2008, 11:20 PM
thank you blue.i initially thought i would clear that confusion but later decided against that.
i just saw that article and thought that it was interesting and posted it here and it doesnt mirror my opinion about linux..
Mrkvonic
March 21st, 2008, 07:12 AM
Hello,
I use Linux because:
- I can
- It's free
- 100% control of everything; good for OCD
- Higher satisfaction-to-input ratio
- Higher stability
- Variety of choice
- No backstabbing tricks
- Interesting, eye-opening, educative, empowering
- Not mainstream
- Generally hassle free
Mrk
wat0114
March 21st, 2008, 12:49 PM
...good ol' curiosity :)
I'm trying Ubuntu 7.10 since a few days ago. It's quite nice but it drives me nuts that the drivers don't work for my SB Audigy card. There might be printer driver issues as well, but I need some time to check further and, of course, I'm still very new to Linux so I have lots to learn. It looks like it will be fun.
DasFox
March 21st, 2008, 07:00 PM
-{ Quote: "If malware ever becomes as prevalent under Linux as it is now under Windows, then I might consider it. Until then, it's just no fun at all. :thumbd:" }-
Why would you want malware to become prevalent under Linux?
Am I missing something here... ???
Huupi
March 21st, 2008, 07:25 PM
-{ Quote: "Why would you want malware to become prevalent under Linux?
Am I missing something here... ???" }-
Some folks has curious minds as to like to be in jeorpardy,everything else is boring to these people,so let us throw some holes to fix to get them satisfied ! LOL ;D ;D
lodore
March 21st, 2008, 07:32 PM
i have tryed linux but the main problem is that not many distro's reconize my wireless network card based on realtek RTL8187.
i have search for how to install the drivers and it all involved lots of commandline. yes i am a ICT technican but i still want to be able to install drivers without having to type lots of commandline codes.
if fedora had drivers for my network card preinstalled then i would most likely dual boot. if there anywhere i can post sergestions on what drivers to include in the next version of distros?
due to quite alot of use of commandline is the main reason why i dont think it will ever be mainstream.
Lodore
bktII
March 21st, 2008, 10:03 PM
Initially curiosity. Same for the *BSDs and Solaris.
I've settled on Debian as my primary distro:
(1) Very good package management that covers most of the apps I use, except for Sun's JDK, Netbeans, Java apps and a couple of other apps.
(2) Lower resource usage (CPU and RAM) than XP and esp. Vista.
Most of the apps I use for free on Debian are also free for Windows, but would not be updated automatically (e.g., Abiword). Apps that are not available for Windows (e.g., Bluefish), have fine free equivalent software for Windows (e.g., Notepad++, Jedit).
Marja
March 21st, 2008, 10:09 PM
I like various distro's of Linux for different reasons-
This (http://www.coulier.org/MDV_2007_homeusers_1_EN.html) is a in-depth article about Mandriva One that is really close to Windows
setup-
Even if you are not going to use Mandriva, it's a good article
for newbies (like me) -to explain just what you get and
some basics of how to use Linux..
Hope someone finds it as enlightening and helpful as I did..:D ;)
Marja8)
solcroft
March 21st, 2008, 10:21 PM
-{ Quote: "Why would you want malware to become prevalent under Linux?
Am I missing something here... ???" }-
I do malware collecting and analysis as a hobby. Switching to Linux is going to deprive me of that entertainment. :wacko:
steve161
March 21st, 2008, 10:32 PM
So develop a distro that is malware infested, something like ZlobLinux
Riverrun
March 22nd, 2008, 06:00 PM
Roflll
wilbertnl
March 23rd, 2008, 12:19 AM
In 1994 I joined a project as system administrator that involved Unix.
For me Linux offered a great and free opportunity to develop my skills.
I ended up developing prototypes of shell scripts at home and implementing them on the system at work.
Later I got fond of FreeBSD, but the hardware support is still behind.
Anyway, my reason would be because I always look for something new, something to discover and something to fix.
Huupi
March 23rd, 2008, 06:11 AM
Whole the development of windows is orientated to ease of use with all the commandlines hardwired and the windowsshell as a command centre,initiating long lines of code with just one mouseclick,i call that progress.
you can say anything bad about MS but their main objective was and is to make their OS's as userfriendly as possible,and that is a good thing.
As is always '' tall massive tree's take the burden of high winds of criticism '' but if you look more closely then MS OS's are far more advanced then any other including Linux in its many incarnations.
as you already guess i am not an advanced user but so are 99 % of the computerusers,and then MS is a gift from heaven !! :D
zapjb
April 2nd, 2008, 08:19 PM
-{ Quote: "Whole the development of windows is orientated to ease of use with all the commandlines hardwired and the windowsshell as a command centre,initiating long lines of code with just one mouseclick,i call that progress.
you can say anything bad about MS but their main objective was and is to make their OS's as userfriendly as possible,and that is a good thing.
As is always '' tall massive tree's take the burden of high winds of criticism '' but if you look more closely then MS OS's are far more advanced then any other including Linux in its many incarnations.
as you already guess i am not an advanced user but so are 99 % of the computerusers,and then MS is a gift from heaven !! :D" }-
:gack: :gack: :gack: :gack: :gack:
Longboard
May 28th, 2008, 11:09 AM
reanimate:
@DasFox
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=1206431&postcount=4
:thumb:
-{ Quote: "I use it because I save 5-10 hours weekly on scans, updates, tweaking & defragging that I was doing in doze." }-:thumb:
-{ Quote: "- I can
- It's free
- 100% control of everything; good for OCD
- Higher satisfaction-to-input ratio
- Higher stability
- Variety of choice
- No backstabbing tricks
- Interesting, eye-opening, educative, empowering
- Not mainstream" }- ;D
-{ Quote: "something like ZlobLinux" }- ;D ;D
-{ Quote: "I always look for something new, something to discover and something to fix." }-:thumb:
Kudos to u all
The search, the stimulation, the freedom.. the.. the ..all of the above
:)
Kerodo
May 28th, 2008, 02:54 PM
I have been using it off and on for a year and a half because:
1) It's free
2) It's something interesting and new to learn and play with
3) The freedom from concerns over malware etc is fantastic
I don't know that I will ever make the leap to a complete changeover to Linux, but I'm pretty sure I will always be interested in it and want to try out new distros and so on.
And it's a very good thing that there is an alternative to Win for those who truly want or need it.
Trespasser
May 28th, 2008, 03:57 PM
If Wine ever developed to the point where it could run Vista's version of Solitaire, Spider Solitaire, and Mahjong (my wife loves these games) I'd switch back to Linux in a heartbeat. As you might have guessed I keep close tabs on Wine's progress.
My reasons for liking Linux? It's free, it's mentally stimulating, it's secure, and it's fun.
Later...
FastGame
May 28th, 2008, 06:30 PM
-{ Quote: "If Wine ever developed to the point where it could run Vista's version of Solitaire, Spider Solitaire, and Mahjong (my wife loves these games) I'd switch back to Linux in a heartbeat." }-
I have Vista and XP running perfect in VirtualBox (seamless mode) on PCLOS.....no need for Wine :P
farmerlee
May 28th, 2008, 07:41 PM
I use it cause its free and everyone knows the best things in life are free :). Not only that, linux allows me to run a modern, up to date OS on older, low spec systems. Often people come to me just wanting a basic system to do basic things on so i simply fix up an old pc and install an appropriate linux distro for them.
Trespasser
May 28th, 2008, 09:30 PM
-{ Quote: "I have Vista and XP running perfect in VirtualBox (seamless mode) on PCLOS.....no need for Wine :P" }-
Have you tried playing these games (Solitaire, Spider Solitaire, and Mahjong) in VirtualBox? To my understanding they require 3D acceleration which I thought hadn't been worked out yet in VirtualBox. Also, how much hard drive space did you set aside for Vista? 20-30 gigs? Again, also, I have an ATI card which normally sucks in Linux anyways. I need to get an Nvidia card sometime or other.
Later...
Franklin
May 28th, 2008, 10:19 PM
If trying to use Linux and pulling half ya hair out is fun then I must be having fun.;D
I don't know, probably just can't break out of the windows mentality.:-\
And besides, not seeing that Sandboxie icon in the tray makes me feel highly insecure. :ouch:
farmerlee
May 29th, 2008, 12:31 AM
-{ Quote: "If trying to use Linux and pulling half ya hair out is fun then I must be having fun.;D
I don't know, probably just can't break out of the windows mentality.:-\
And besides, not seeing that Sandboxie icon in the tray makes me feel highly insecure. :ouch:" }-
Its like they say, if you want something that looks and acts like windows, then use windows :).
L815
May 29th, 2008, 06:27 PM
The worst part about Linux in my world is the distro hoppin. I just want to try every one out there!!
But since Wubi came out, I think that will be more popular than Virtual Machines. Hopefully other distros will do similar, or make more Fedora-like usb installers.
The reason I don't use Linux 24/7 on my laptop is because of :
1- Power Usage, brightness doesn't lower, and power drains fast
2- Better compatibility (gfx card) with video + compiz.
Meriadoc
May 29th, 2008, 07:18 PM
One reason, because its all in the open. You can see code, or trust others to tell you - that's the good thing about the open-source world.;)
NGRhodes
May 30th, 2008, 04:34 AM
One technical issue that I see time and time again is Microsofts failure to comply with standards, both international and internal.
Win32, .net there are various places where their implementation differs from their written API
Then there things like HTML/CSS, OOXML (even worse is their OWN devised standard) which they fail to have fully compliant software for.
How about a Web Service that I wrote in .net that cannot be consumed by another .net because of issues with blank lines been added by the service which breaks XML compliance.
Or how about the fact that there is not a single (non bundled) Microsoft app that actually complies to either XP or Vista GUI design standards (Office 2003 is close, but office 2007 is worse and not because of the ribbon bar), notepad is one of the few bundled apps that is fully compliant.
Not saying Linux OR Open Source is perfect in this aspect (the bigger issue can be competing alternate standards), but it is far far better (in our case we have moved a lot of our business level services are running java via tomcat).
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