EAZ-FIX behavior question

[mantra]

Hi
i have a question about EAZ-FIX

does it use folders or partition to make snapshots?

i give a look at the homepage , bu did not find info about the place where eaz-fix stores shaps

thanks
have a nice day

[Peter2150]

They aren't stored anywere you can see them. The windows read/writes are passed thru their driver, and written as sectors on the hard drive. The sectors are kept track of thru "tables" eazfix maintains. Thats why creating a new snapshot is so fast.... all that is actually done is to create a new table. Then as the snapshot changes, the changes are recorded in the new table, and any new sectors are written to the drive.

No way you can see them under windows. You have to use the programs snapshot viewer.

Pete

[mantra]

-{ Quote: "They aren't stored anywere you can see them. The windows read/writes are passed thru their driver, and written as sectors on the hard drive. The sectors are kept track of thru "tables" eazfix maintains. Thats why creating a new snapshot is so fast.... all that is actually done is to create a new table. Then as the snapshot changes, the changes are recorded in the new table, and any new sectors are written to the drive.

No way you can see them under windows. You have to use the programs snapshot viewer.

Pete" }-
thanks
but does easzfix make some partitions to work or will let me my system untouched

[appster]

-{ Quote: "thanks
but does easzfix make some partitions to work or will let me my system untouched" }-
When you install EF, it creates and uses it own proprietary & hidden 'container' (on your C partition/drive) which you can neither see or access directly. The snapshots created thereafter are stored in that container. The only way they can only be managed is by using EF's (or RB's) Snapshot Management facility.

It is possible however, to backup that hidden container (along with everything else on your system partition/drive) by using almost any disk-imaging backup program that has a 'sector-level' mode of operation.

[mantra]

-{ Quote: "When you install EF, it creates and uses it own proprietary & hidden 'container' (on your C partition/drive) which you can neither see or access directly. The snapshots created thereafter are stored in that container. The only way they can only be managed is by using EF's (or RB's) Snapshot Management facility.

It is possible however, to backup that hidden container (along with everything else on your system partition/drive) by using almost any disk-imaging backup program that has a 'sector-level' mode of operation." }-

well thanks
i will not install it
thanks so much

[appster]

-{ Quote: "well thanks
i will not install it
thanks so much" }-
Your welcome, but I'm curious as to what it is that discourages you from installing it?

[Dave49]

They really have a strange way of marketing this product. It seems I cannot order it from the company but must find a reseller near me.

~Dave

[mantra]

-{ Quote: "Your welcome, but I'm curious as to what it is that discourages you from installing it?" }-
well
my system works good now
i don't want to srew up it
so a program that create partitions , i don't want it
i will install FirstDefense-ISR , at last it would be easy to uninstall
thanks again

[Peter2150]

-{ Quote: "When you install EF, it creates and uses it own proprietary & hidden 'container' (on your C partition/drive) which you can neither see or access directly. The snapshots created thereafter are stored in that container. The only way they can only be managed is by using EF's (or RB's) Snapshot Management facility.

It is possible however, to backup that hidden container (along with everything else on your system partition/drive) by using almost any disk-imaging backup program that has a 'sector-level' mode of operation." }-

I may be wrong, but I don't believe there is any "hidden container" where snapshots are stored. It certainly doesn't create any partitions. It does however write preboot code into the mbr.

Pete

[mantra]

-{ Quote: "I may be wrong, but I don't believe there is any "hidden container" where snapshots are stored. It certainly doesn't create any partitions. It does however write preboot code into the mbr.

Pete" }-
are you sure it doesn't create partitions?

[aigle]

-{ Quote: "I may be wrong, but I don't believe there is any "hidden container" where snapshots are stored. It certainly doesn't create any partitions. It does however write preboot code into the mbr.

Pete" }-
I agree.

[Peter2150]

-{ Quote: "are you sure it doesn't create partitions?" }-

99 and 44/100's percent sure.

Sector imaging wouldn't get everything if there was hidden partitions.

[appster]

-{ Quote: "I may be wrong, but I don't believe there is any "hidden container" where snapshots are stored. It certainly doesn't create any partitions. It does however write preboot code into the mbr.

Pete" }-
Pete,

I didn't say that RB creates a hidden partition. As I was attempting to illustrate (to the OP) that RB/EF snapshots are not directly accessible by Windows, I loosely used the phrase 'hidden container' to help get that point across.

Perhaps I should have been more precise by saying the data for RB/EF snapshots are stored locally on the hard disk as 'raw sectors'. That is why disk-imaging products can only capture the snapshots when used in sector-by-sector mode from outside of Windows. We both know the snapshots do not exist as files in Windows' file system and therefore their data are not directly accessible via Windows or Windows utilities. ;)

appster

[Peter2150]

-{ Quote: "Pete,

I didn't say that RB creates a hidden partition. As I was attempting to illustrate (to the OP) that RB/EF snapshots are not directly accessible by Windows, I loosely used the phrase 'hidden container' to help get that point across.

Perhaps I should have been more precise by saying the data for RB/EF snapshots are stored locally on the hard disk as 'raw sectors'. That is why disk-imaging products can only capture the snapshots when used in sector-by-sector mode from outside of Windows. We both know the snapshots do not exist as files in Windows' file system and therefore their data are not directly accessible via Windows or Windows utilities. ;)

appster" }-

Hi appster

I knew you knew, but just didn't want to leave any confusion in the mind of the OP. Got to admit it isn't the most straight forward thing to get your mind around as it is.;D

Pete

[Aaron Here]

-{ Quote: "Hi appster

I knew you knew, but just didn't want to leave any confusion in the mind of the OP. Got to admit it isn't the most straight forward thing to get your mind around as it is.;D

Pete" }-
I'm glad you and appster know how RB & EF works - afaic all that I care about is that it keeps working! ;)

[MikeNAS]

-{ Quote: "They really have a strange way of marketing this product. It seems I cannot order it from the company but must find a reseller near me.

~Dave" }-

You can buy it over here:

PC Undo (http://www.pcundo.com/)

[Dave49]

-{ Quote: "You can buy it over here:

PC Undo (http://www.pcundo.com/)" }-

Thanks very much for the link.

Do I understand right, that this takes the place of Windows System Restore? System Restore must be turned off to use EAZ-FIX?

~Dave

[farmerlee]

-{ Quote: "Thanks very much for the link.

Do I understand right, that this takes the place of Windows System Restore? System Restore must be turned off to use EAZ-FIX?

~Dave" }-
I believe it disables windows system restore when you install it. You can enable it again afterwards but theres really no point as eaz-fix does a far better job.

[mantra]

for me is enough that DON'T make partitions

because i have old bad experiece:thumbd: i mean with others programs

[demoneye]

HI ALL

EAZ FIX doesnt make any hidden partition or modify hd(s) by any way. i can confirm it 100% acording to there support.its uses raw sector to write data on disk.

i use eaz fix for some days and it realy a good appz , worth pay for.

cheers:dry: