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trjam
February 26th, 2008, 06:56 AM
I agree for the rest of my family to use our computers that DefenseWall is better suited then some of the other apps I have tried.

My question is, why or why not could you just not go with Defensewall by itself. To me it seems if your web browser and email are your only entry points, that it would suffice in covering these areas very well.

baerzake
February 26th, 2008, 07:37 AM
It is enough to run web browser as untrusted.

solcroft
February 26th, 2008, 07:51 AM
-{ Quote: "To me it seems if your web browser and email are your only entry points, that it would suffice in covering these areas very well." }-
Exactly.

Or better, why not just use Opera, or Firefox + Thunderbird, who don't have the usual gamut of Trident engine vulnerabilities to be exploited, and save yourself the hassle of having to use security software?

Chris12923
February 26th, 2008, 08:42 AM
I did just that for a while. just defensewall with rollback rx restoring on restart. I for one felt very safe with it.

Thanks,

Chris

Chris12923
February 26th, 2008, 08:55 AM
-{ Quote: "Exactly.

Or better, why not just use Opera, or Firefox + Thunderbird, who don't have the usual gamut of Trident engine vulnerabilities to be exploited, and save yourself the hassle of having to use security software?" }-
Because even with opera or firefox alone there is still malware/exploits that can be used to harm your system.

Thanks,

Chris

solcroft
February 26th, 2008, 08:59 AM
-{ Quote: "Because even with opera or firefox alone there is still malware/exploits that can be used to harm your system.

Thanks,

Chris" }-
The very same could be said about DefenseWall, or any other solution out there. But I was under the impression that a realistic weighting of the involved risk and possibilities would be of much more use to the OP than plain paranoia.

Perman
February 26th, 2008, 10:36 AM
-{ Quote: "
Hi,
To me these two are my primary and perhaps the only entry points.

Currently I am using IE7 and using web email(open email at web site first).

During net surfing, I enter DeepFreeze's frozen mode, and have DW active.

While updating or d/l installing , I have to use DF's thawed mode, while DW is active. Without any other HIPS (although I have PRSC--behaviour blocker) presence, DW seems to be the only good hand on duty. Therefore, my another question is:

Has DW's sandbox ever leaked ?

Ilya Rabinovich
February 26th, 2008, 11:52 AM
-{ Quote: "Has DW's sandbox ever leaked" }-
You know, each software has bugs. I'm more then sure that every sandbox presented can be bypassed. The only important question here, this case is: "how quick security vendors fixes their software's bugs and leaks?".

As about me- I'm always try to do that job as a first priority, as quick as I can. I wouldn't like the idea (from the point of the customer) that the security software vendor I trust do that job slowly and ugly.

Perman
February 26th, 2008, 01:02 PM
-{ Quote: "You know, each software has bugs. I'm more then sure that every sandbox presented can be bypassed. The only important question here, this case is: "how quick security vendors fixes their software's bugs and leaks?".

As about me- I'm always try to do that job as a first priority, as quick as I can. I wouldn't like the idea (from the point of the customer) that the security software vendor I trust do that job slowly and ugly." }-
Hi,

Ilya, :thumb: :thumb:

I just wish there are more developers having the very same vision as you do.

Job well done so far, and very likely so in the future.

Take care.

Chris12923
February 26th, 2008, 02:11 PM
-{ Quote: "The very same could be said about DefenseWall, or any other solution out there. But I was under the impression that a realistic weighting of the involved risk and possibilities would be of much more use to the OP than plain paranoia." }-
Yes that is why opera/firefox + defensewall would be an even better option. All you can do is try to layer your security so that you try to eliminate one software weakness by using another. Ilya is correct as well that he is very fast fixing DF weakness/bugs.

Thanks,

Chris