DefenseWall 2.20 released.

[Blackcat]

DefenseWall HIPS 2.20 released.

1. [New] Total untrusted files movement control.
2. [New] Option: 'Run files from local area network as untrusted'.
3. [New] Option: Go Banking/Shopping push button:: 'Set Browser for Go Banking/Shopping mode'.
4. [New] Option: Save DefenseWall HIPS settings push button:: Save main options/untrusted lists/additional lists/internal lists registry file.
5. [New] Enhanced/upgraded Internal Updater functionality (see Help file).
6. [New] Notification on program start when protection is disabled.
7. [New] Portable Firefox and Thunderbird are now supported: .exe must be added manually to Untrusted List.
8. [Add] Windows Explorer Context Menu: 'Run as trusted all'.
9. [Add] PDFs now supported as untrusted (right now with double-click only).
10.[Fixed] Minor bugs and user issues fixed.

http://www.softsphere.com/downloads/

[Kees1958]

1. [New] Total untrusted files movement control.

I can not find it, where is it?

[Tony]

-{ Quote: "1. [New] Total untrusted files movement control.

I can not find it, where is it?" }-

Is it on the colum to the right of untrusted applications "MOVE ITEM"

[Kees1958]

That was also present on older versions (I can remember it since 1.xx).

[Ilya Rabinovich]

-{ Quote: "I can not find it, where is it?" }-
It is inside :) Now you can move or copy untrusted files with any file manager and it will keep its untrusted state (older versions of DW supported only Windows Explorer).

[lodore]

is portable opera supported?
or will this be in a later release?
if for example something tryed to attack opera with defencewall active if i pressed the close all untrusted applications button what would happern to all my open tabs when i reopened opera?
also would like to know the same thing for firefox.
i may run a trial of defencewall to see how it works.
lodore

[Ilya Rabinovich]

Portable Opera is not currently supported. Thanks for the hint, I completely forgot about it. Next version...

Portable FireFox and Thunderbird are supported- you just need manually add its main executable to the untrusted list.

In case of the "big red" button push Opera and FireFox 2.xx versions will restore their tabs when you re-run it.

[lodore]

-{ Quote: "Portable Opera is not currently supported. Thanks for the hint, I completely forgot about it. Next version...

Portable FireFox and Thunderbird are supported- you just need manually add its main executable to the untrusted list.

In case of the "big red" button push Opera and FireFox 2.xx versions will restore their tabs when you re-run it." }-
thanks.
if i have internet explorer in u trusted and do a windows update will the update work? or do i have to set it as trusted do the updates then reset back to untrusted?
lodore

[Ilya Rabinovich]

In case of using standard "Windows Update"/"Microsoft Update" link files IE will be runed to trusted automatically.

[MaB69]

Hi,

Congrats Ilya for this new release

Regards,

MaB

[dmenace]

Ilya,

Sorry for not testing my graphics card driver, "winfox II" against defensewall.

I just do not have time to test all defensewall drivers you supplied. So at the moment i have went back to using sandboxie though this slows down my browsing more.

However, still did you manage to fix the incompatibility issues I experienced when running defensewall with winfox II in 2.20?

On another computer where i had defensewall 2.10, i experienced a BSOD upon opening microsoft word 2003, after i had uninstalled adobe acrobat 6.

Can this issue be fixed?

The one other problem i have with defensewall, is over time A LOT of untrusted files and folders accumulate in defensewall. This tends to make defensewall run slower over time and harder to use when installing / uninstalling software often.

[Kees1958]

Dmenace,

Why not post in softsphere support forum?

[Kees1958]

-{ Quote: "It is inside :) Now you can move or copy untrusted files with any file manager and it will keep its untrusted state (older versions of DW supported only Windows Explorer)." }-

Ahh the things you discovered when I mailed you on 7-Zip?

I always sort of favoured both GeSWall and DefenseWall. Over time DefenseWall speed and help files have improved. Besides being easier to use DW has one big advantage over GW, when you copy a file to another drive/partition DW keeps it status, while GW loses the untrusted status.

Now the (temporary) advantage is to DW in the group of Policy HIPS/Sandboxes.

[Ilya Rabinovich]

-{ Quote: "However, still did you manage to fix the incompatibility issues I experienced when running defensewall with winfox II in 2.20?" }-
I can't fix if I can't reproduce. I don't have such the card- I can't reproduce. I need your cooperation with it.

-{ Quote: "
On another computer where i had defensewall 2.10, i experienced a BSOD upon opening microsoft word 2003, after i had uninstalled adobe acrobat 6.

Can this issue be fixed?" }-
Yes, sure. Check it out with the latest 2.2 build and, if the BSOD is still here- mail me a minidump file zipped.

-{ Quote: "
The one other problem i have with defensewall, is over time A LOT of untrusted files and folders accumulate in defensewall. This tends to make defensewall run slower over time and harder to use when installing / uninstalling software often." }-
Well, I have a lot of the untrusted entries too, but see no slowdowns because of it. Are you sure that this is the right reason? Maybe, it's just interference with some other software?

[Ilya Rabinovich]

-{ Quote: "Ahh the things you discovered when I mailed you on 7-Zip?" }-
No. It was other issue.

[demoneye]

lo Ilya Rabinovich

i got little question about DW
is there any option empty its sandbox like in sanboxie (empty continer)?

coz all changes i made to to untrusted appz reflected the or originally which is bad


cheers

[the_sly_dog]

great product Many thanks Ilya

[Ilya Rabinovich]

-{ Quote: "is there any option empty its sandbox like in sanboxie (empty continer)?" }-
There is a 'Rollback' function there ("File and registry tracks" button). But there is no container here.

-{ Quote: "
coz all changes i made to to untrusted appz reflected the or originally which is bad" }-
What is really bad with it? I see no problems.

[Threedog]

I've never tried this yet. Think I will give it a whirl.

[WilliamP]

DefenseWall is a great program because Ilya is a dedicated person who does his best to help with any concerns or problems. DW has been improved on a regular basis. You can't go wrong with DefenseWall.

[Threedog]

A lot of people here swear by it so I figured I might as well give it a try. No issues with it so far.

[EASTER]

I highly agree with that and it sure doesn't hurt to have a developer who is as involved as they come as though on a mission to make it a Legendary protection program.

That speaks volumes of the efforts placed in seeing to it DefenseWall is the best it can possibly be IMO.

[Threedog]

You're one of the main reasons I decided to give it a try, Easter. In the setup thread, Defencewall seems to be a constant with you.

[Threedog]

So far so good with Defencewall. I am thinking that when I rejoin the ranks of the employed I might make a purchace.

[demoneye]

-{ Quote: "Originally Posted by demoneye
coz all changes i made to to untrusted appz reflected the or originally which is bad." }-

the bad thing is ACTIVEX command stick to the
originally HD and arent clean by close and reopen DW... thats 1 thing i found out which is very dangerous ( we all knows activex can be used badly).


cheers

[lucas1985]

If the ActiveX control is inside the isolation layer of DW, it can't harm your system. You should understand than policy-based sandboxes are slightly different than virtualization-based sandboxes. Once you understand this, you'll see how DW protects you.

[chaos16]

would defence wall be good to use in vista with Avast free antivirus and Comodo or no need to use defence wall with Comodo?


btw the ppl who use defence wall once they install it could they leave it and it will protect u automatically? or u would have to configure it urself?

[Chris12923]

-{ Quote: "would defence wall be good to use in vista with Avast free antivirus and Comodo or no need to use defence wall with Comodo?" }-
You could still use it as another layer of defense

-{ Quote: "btw the ppl who use defence wall once they install it could they leave it and it will protect u automatically? or u would have to configure it urself?" }-
You can install and run and pretty much be set although you maybe have to select some of your apps to be trusted/untrusted depending on your liking. It's not that hard to figure out once you play with it. Some more advance stuff is a little harder but normally you don't mess with those.

Thanks,

Chris

[EASTER]

@Chris12923

Being somewhat new to defenseWall myself maybe you can assist in something that has my attention. Under FILES & REGISTRY TRACKS it's accummalating quite a long list. Now you can't just DELETE these or else it'll remove completely those reg or file entries and some of them, strike that, a lot of them are valid, so can anything be done to transfer this filing up list to an alternate locale to free up space, or will this list continue to build in that manner to infinitely. I know it's an answer better suited perhaps to the developer, but maybe you experienced something of the same and can offer a solution.

Thanks EASTER

[Chris12923]

-{ Quote: "@Chris12923

Being somewhat new to defenseWall myself maybe you can assist in something that has my attention. Under FILES & REGISTRY TRACKS it's accummalating quite a long list. Now you can't just DELETE these or else it'll remove completely those reg or file entries and some of them, strike that, a lot of them are valid, so can anything be done to transfer this filing up list to an alternate locale to free up space, or will this list continue to build in that manner to infinitely. I know it's an answer better suited perhaps to the developer, but maybe you experienced something of the same and can offer a solution.

Thanks EASTER" }-
I haven't used defensewall much latley because I use the frozen snapshtot with nothing else. let me install it quickly and get right back to ya in case something changed.

Thanks,

Chris

[EASTER]

Thanks for anything you might find that can be of use. And if not Ilya surely can offer his suggestions regarding this when i can find him posting again.

[Chris12923]

-{ Quote: "Thanks for anything you might find that can be of use. And if not Ilya surely can offer his suggestions regarding this when i can find him posting again." }-
To my knowledge it will keep adding up but i think somewhere i heard or saw raher that it is limited to a certain size. Don't quote me on that though. orry I can't be more help but like i ws saying defensewall run good on it's wn but I don't mess to much with all the bels and whistles :P

Thanks,

Chris

[EASTER]

-{ Quote: "To my knowledge it will keep adding up but i think somewhere i heard or saw raher that it is limited to a certain size. Don't quote me on that though. orry I can't be more help but like i ws saying defensewall run good on it's wn but I don't mess to much with all the bels and whistles :P

Thanks,

Chris" }-

Thanks Chris:

Fair enough and thanks for the confirmation to my suspicion of this. I'll have to contact Ilya and see if something can be remedied for this because this list is destined to skyrocket at some point over time.

Regards EASTER

[Ilya Rabinovich]

-{ Quote: "Now you can't just DELETE these or else it'll remove completely those reg or file entries and some of them, strike that, a lot of them are valid, so can anything be done to transfer this filing up list to an alternate locale to free up space, or will this list continue to build in that manner to infinitely." }-
Do you mean it 'Quarantine' functionality?

[EASTER]

-{ Quote: "Do you mean it 'Quarantine' functionality?" }-

Forgive my lack of knowledge but if File & Registry Tracks button on the interface equates to "QUARANTINE" then i think maybe so. It sets under the heading of Rollback, so i bet quarantine is what it is about.

If i press ALLOW ALL then will this list clear? Of course i'll go over each item to ensure it's safe or not.

EDIT: I done it again, i feel like a complete boob, you are right and if their deemed safe ALLOW ALL clears the list.

That will teach me to read the HELP file first the next time before running headlong into this.

Thanks Ilya

[demoneye]

-{ Quote: "If the ActiveX control is inside the isolation layer of DW, it can't harm your system. You should understand than policy-based sandboxes are slightly different than virtualization-based sandboxes. Once you understand this, you'll see how DW protects you." }-

first activex can harm u man , if used badly.

and NO i dont need to understand any DW isolation as an home user ( or just a user) ... i want a simple key stroke to rollback clean to the first postiation i just enter the net use my broswer... in SB its "clean continer" and all crap good or bad are gone.

when system uses DW leave activeX control when exit it , its totaly unssafe and should make u worry.

cheers:thumb:

[Ilya Rabinovich]

-{ Quote: "when system uses DW leave activeX control when exit it , its totaly unssafe and should make u worry." }-
You are wrong here. First of all, I would suggest you read a bit about ActiveX- those modules do not auto-start. Also, there is a "plugin injection" protection for such the threats to do not allow it run trusted.

[demoneye]

-{ Quote: "You are wrong here. First of all, I would suggest you read a bit about ActiveX- those modules do not auto-start. Also, there is a "plugin injection" protection for such the threats to do not allow it run trusted." }-

i use some chat sites which uses ACTIVEX in first time u enter them.
after they install there is no prompt for again install them when u enter this site again...so arent they autostart like evrey plug in in the world? yes they are ;D

what "[lugin injection" ? in DS? .....

[Ilya Rabinovich]

-{ Quote: "so arent they autostart like evrey plug in in the world? yes they are" }-
One more time- read about ActiveX technology before making a claims. ActiveX components runs ON DEMAND ONLY!!!!!

-{ Quote: "
what "[lugin injection"" }-
"Plugin injection protection" is a technology that prevents untrusted created executable modules from being loaded as trusted.

[demoneye]

-{ Quote: "One more time- read about ActiveX technology before making a claims. ActiveX components runs ON DEMAND ONLY!!!!!


"Plugin injection protection" is a technology that prevents untrusted created executable modules from being loaded as trusted." }-

maybe i was missunderstood... my claim is after this activex was installed and it found to be bad... is there any way to invoke him our from DW? coz DW leave it there even if u close the broswer and reopen...

cheers

[Ilya Rabinovich]

-{ Quote: "is there any way to invoke him our from DW?" }-
Yes, with 'Rollback' function ('Files and registry tracks' button) manually or with your on-demand anti-virus scanner :).

[demoneye]

-{ Quote: "Yes, with 'Rollback' function ('Files and registry tracks' button) manually or with your on-demand anti-virus scanner :)." }-

10x ilya :dry: will try it soon

cheers :thumb:

[chaos16]

defence wall worked like a jail right? i just puts malaware to like a prison per say?

and a hips works a bit diffrent so the hips in comodo should be incompatible with defence wall???

[lucas1985]

Defensewall builds a prison (the sandbox) and it recruits the best possible policemen (rules for the sandbox)
Comodo builds a prison and it recruits you as the policemen.

[Threedog]

I've been trying this new version of Defencewall on my system for the past few days. I am very impressed with it and it works great in a limited user account also, which is a big thing for me now as I want to run LUA as much as possible. Unless I run into a major problem I will definately be getting it when I get back to work and get some funds coming in. Hopefully before my 30 day trial runs out. ;D

It's definately going to be on my recommended software list.

[Miyagi]

So far so good. Still trialing with F-PROT.

[chaos16]

do u ppl prefer defencewall over other like it? (btw im not asking which is better as ive been long enough in this forum and noticed it does not exsist a best program lol)

anyone using it with comodo 3.0 and avast free btw?

[lucas1985]

-{ Quote: "do u ppl prefer defencewall over other like it?" }-
The only other app which is DW-like is GeSWall (which I'm using myself). Both are policy-based sandboxes

[chaos16]

which one is more user friendly?

the thing is from the free version which is better defence wall or geswall?

[lucas1985]

I'd say that DW is a little bit more user-friendly.

[Kees1958]

Hi,

I have them both , DW is much more user firendly. GW is more configurable. What I do not like about the latest GW release is that when you copy an UNtrusted file to another partition/disk it will get the status trusted.

I removed GW, so maybe some body can test whether this is still the case

[MaB69]

-{ Quote: "
I removed GW, so maybe some body can test whether this is still the case" }-

Hi,

By design (sadly), it is still the case

Regards,

MaB

[chaos16]

whats the difference between the free version of DefenceWall and paid version?

in test Defence wall does better that threatfire ?

[LoneWolf]

-{ Quote: "whats the difference between the free version of DefenceWall and paid version?

in test Defence wall does better that threatfire ?" }-

There is no free version of DefenseWall.
There is a trial and then only paid version.

[Perman]

-{ Quote: "whats the difference between the free version of DefenceWall and paid version?

in test Defence wall does better that threatfire ?" }-
Hi,

Comparing DW vs threatfire is like tasting Wine vs Beer, both contain alcohol (defense elements), and will make you drunk (let your system feel safe). You can use both or either one, depending upon your personal choice.

DW is a sandbox with HIPS(Ilya likes to use this term), while TF is more or less a behaviour blocker. Now speaking of Behaviour blocker, giveawayoftheday dot com has Mamutu (I still have hard time to remember the name) free for remaining 9 hours so. The current version is much stable than earlier ones. It has been running on my 2laptops for the last few hours, still not making any annoyance. Seems a keeper after all. The money saved from here perhaps can facilitate you to purchase DW--an excellent app, an ever green keeper.

My catch of the day---Mamutu---European stock

Take care.

[dmenace]

-{ Quote: "Comparing DW vs threatfire is like tasting Wine vs Beer, both contain alcohol (defense elements), and will make you drunk (let your system feel safe). You can use both or either one, depending upon your personal choice." }-

But wine contains more alcohol per litre. Therefore DW is more secure than threatfire... ;D :D Funny analogy of security software :thumb: