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Paul Wilders
June 24th, 2002, 04:59 AM
ARLINGTON, Va. - The Internet's potential for promoting expression and empowering citizens is under threat from corporate and government policies that clash with the medium's long-standing culture of openness, some leading Internet thinkers warn.

At the annual Internet Society conference this week, the engineers who built the Internet and many of the policymakers who follow its development urged caution as governments try to exert control and businesses look to maximize profit.

``We're at a turning point in the evolution of the Internet,'' said William Drake, a fellow at the University of Maryland. A wrong turn means ``robbing it of its real democratic potential.''

Vint Cerf, co-developer of the Internet's basic communications protocols, worries that big, traditional businesses could gain unprecedented control through technical manipulation of the next-generation, high-speed services that are delivered over cable and phone lines.

Companies are inhibiting innovation, notes Cerf, by letting users receive information faster than they can send it.

``That leads to a lot of peculiar effects,'' Cerf said. Two people ``could each receive high-quality video but can't send it. They can't have high-quality video conferencing.''

Cerf is a co-founder of the Internet Society, an international, non-profit organization of Internet architects and professionals devoted to maintaining the Internet's viability and addressing issues it confronts.

With governments and businesses taking a growing interest in the Internet, the INET 2002 conference's theme was ``Internet Crossroads: Where Technology and Policy Intersect.''

The TCP/IP communications protocols that Cerf and Robert Kahn developed in the 1970s favored open standards, neutrality and flexibility over proprietary techniques, a development that later allowed personal computers to connect and innovations like the World Wide Web to develop.

That openness is increasingly threatened by ``profit motives of corporations and control issues of governments,'' said Eric Schmidt, chief executive of Google. He pointed to the current ``balkanization'' of instant messaging, where a lack of standards prevents America Online users from communicating with people on rival services.

Steve Crocker, an Internet pioneer who promoted open protocols at the standards-setting Internet Engineering Task Force, said today's decisions ``could stunt the Internet to where it becomes a mechanism for delivering entertainment, ads and conducting consumer-oriented business for large players.''

Meanwhile, proposals by some service providers to adjust access fees based on a broadband consumer's data traffic volume could inhibit the development of video and other data-intensive applications, said David Farber, a University of Pennsylvania professor and former chief technologist at the Federal Communications Commission.

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source: www.bayarea.com

root
June 24th, 2002, 10:23 AM
Legitimate concerns to be sure. I keep waiting for at least one of the governments to get in there and screw things up.
The internet is a good thing. It promotes freedom of thought and expression. It allows free sharing of ideas, technology, concepts, art, music, information in general. Something like that strikes fear in the hearts of those Government officials that would control us. You can rest assured, all over the world, there are power mongers plotting their next move to gain control of this wonderful tool. It is too powerful to be left alone.
I do believe the only thing that saves us right now is that no one entity is going to be able to just assume control of the net. The other players won't allow it.
If they ever get together and agree on how to do it, we are doomed.

Prince_Serendip
June 24th, 2002, 11:02 AM
This is a quote from my posting in Ten-Forward at "UK Gov't Spies on US Citizens (and others),"
{QUOTE-> You've noticed all the politically motivated interest groups of late that want to regulate the Internet? The Internet scares them because it can be so anonymous. It allows 100's of millions of people to interact and exchange information just about any way they prefer with most of that completely unregulated nor controlled. All these people are praticing whatever they do with almost complete freedom and anonymity. It can be incredibly beautiful, mundane or ugly as the case may be. True freedom is a toughy. A primary struggle throughout human history has been over how decisions are made and by whom. This is an ongoing process. I would say that the Internet, because it is so large, magnifies the proportions of any and all human activities, for better or for worse. Consequently, there are many countries, groups, and private companies all vying for control of it, or at least parts of it. The Internet actively promotes globalization. By its very essence it crosses all territorial boundaries and limitations, bringing many different people together in a way that has never been done before in all of human history! It brings with it, in its infancy, all of the problems of the human condition as well.

I strongly dislike countries spying on their own and others citizens. In the democratic countries it is incumbent on the citizens to monitor and regulate the actions of their governments. Sometimes that is lost sight of, but is important nonetheless. I would suggest that most of the methods of the Cold War have been carried over from the past to deal with international terrorists and their sympathizers. It is up to the many individuals to strive to maintain their freedoms, lest they be robbed of same!
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The Internet is the greatest communication medium this planet has ever seen. It has tremendous power! I am not surprised that the big-wheels are interested in gaining "control" of it. I expect that there will be and already is a power-struggle occurring and continuing at this very moment for dominance of parts of or all of the Net. The many users of the Internet, must be vigilant, if they are to protect their interests!

Mr.Blaze
June 24th, 2002, 12:30 PM
I wish some country with mass satilites and mas servers made there owen verstion of the internet.

sold a satlite reciver to anyware in the world and charged a loww monthly fee for satlite internet and said the h.e.ll with big compnys and usa laws .

im suprise germany with all its satlites hadnt thought about it since there broke and dont need there spy satlites any more.

imagine people sighning up for germany or rushin internet and droping there usa service providers

Prince_Serendip
June 26th, 2002, 08:49 PM
;D Radical as always MRBLAZE! Maybe not too far off? I don't see Germany providing that. Don't they get funding from US interests? I wouldn't put it past the Russians though. You can buy space travel with them. I am so glad that the USSR collapsed (under its own inefficiencies)! Good ideas though MRBLAZE! ;D