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trjam
February 10th, 2008, 08:00 AM
To a very low price. I am not posting link or price to keep from breaking site policy but, the old Kerio has a very good price attached at the Sunbelt site.

Dieselman
February 10th, 2008, 08:43 AM
Wowo..........i just saw it. Well worth the $------------.

Diver
February 10th, 2008, 11:00 AM
Sunbelt has been $10 for a while. There are enough free ones out there to pass on this, IMO. As it is, any paid standalone firewall is a tough sell against the current selection of free firewalls and some select suites that throw in a good firewall for another $10 over the AV only price.

acr1965
February 10th, 2008, 03:11 PM
Yes it has been that price for a while. FWIU- Sunbelt has not developed the fw much and it still has some bugs. Heck it is not even compatible with Vista.

But Sunbelt did run a nice little promo for all the blackice users who were left in the cold when that program folded a few months back by offering free licenses.

I just don't think the Sunbelt fw is any better than some of the free ones available.

Perman
February 10th, 2008, 06:54 PM
-{ Quote: ".

But Sunbelt did run a nice little promo for all the black ice users who were left in the cold when that program folded a few months back by offering free licenses. ." }-
Hi,

Yes, I traded my BlackIce for a one-year SunBelt fw. That was early August last year. I used for one month or so, and then ditched it.

The Sunbelt fw forum at Castlecops, has few postings, and my question got only one reply, from a member, not from the Official, making thing even worse, my support ticket never got a reply. Good product ? not sure. Lousy support, 100% affirmatively. Moreover, no update I could witness since then, the development people have gone fishing, and the product itself has been in fact in hibernation.

acr1965
February 10th, 2008, 07:25 PM
-{ Quote: "Hi,

Yes, I traded my BlackIce for a one-year SunBelt fw. That was early August last year. I used for one month or so, and then ditched it.

The Sunbelt fw forum at Castlecops, has few postings, and my question got only one reply, from a member, not from the Official, making thing even worse, my support ticket never got a reply. Good product ? not sure. Lousy support, 100% affirmatively. Moreover, no update I could witness since then, the development people have gone fishing, and the product itself has been in fact in hibernation." }-

Maybe they have just abaondoned the fw? It really should just be offered free if Sunbelt is not going to support it. There are probably a lot happier users with the old, free version of Kerio (2.15 or whatever). Oddly the support for CounterSpy has always been superb- at least it was when I was using the program up until about a year ago.

jrmhng
February 11th, 2008, 04:42 AM
-{ Quote: "Maybe they have just abaondoned the fw? It really should just be offered free if Sunbelt is not going to support it. There are probably a lot happier users with the old, free version of Kerio (2.15 or whatever). Oddly the support for CounterSpy has always been superb- at least it was when I was using the program up until about a year ago." }-

Maybe they are just really concentrating on Counterspy, trying to turn it into an AV. I think when they bought it from kerio, kerio was ready to just discontinue it.

QBgreen
February 11th, 2008, 07:29 AM
Sunbelt is still making noise to the effect that the firewall is being actively developed. Very little noise, but that's what they're stating.

jrmhng
February 11th, 2008, 03:56 PM
-{ Quote: "Sunbelt is still making noise to the effect that the firewall is being actively developed. Very little noise, but that's what they're stating." }-
Where are they stating this?

Kerodo
February 11th, 2008, 04:06 PM
-{ Quote: "Sunbelt is still making noise to the effect that the firewall is being actively developed. Very little noise, but that's what they're stating." }-
You could have fooled me... that's the main reason why I was sorry I bought it back when they took over... they just seemed to want to make some quick cash on suckering in people on the low price, only to do almost nothing with it for years afterwards... No thanks.

Pedro
February 11th, 2008, 04:31 PM
I just think the 2.1.5 rules table is much better than the present, errr, table? nah, the ZA'ish thing going on there. I think the features it adds have value, specially NIPS and HIPS (or just application control and NIPS). Content filtering, if i understand it correctly, should be a Proxomitron kind of thing, editable. But the rules, man, 2.1.5 was logical.

lucas1985
February 11th, 2008, 04:49 PM
-{ Quote: "But the rules, man, 2.1.5 was logical." }-
That's why Kerio 2 remains as the gold standard in rule-based firewalls. Wish Kerio had open sourced the code :(

Pedro
February 11th, 2008, 05:08 PM
-{ Quote: "That's why Kerio 2 remains as the gold standard in rule-based firewalls. Wish Kerio had open sourced the code :(" }-
If they updated it for more protocols support, pseudo spi and so on, many ppl would buy it, even if only for the heck of it.
I like CFP's approach to separate global from application rules, but i also like Kerio's 1 table approach. Rules with order, and where just by looking at it you know what's going on.

Hairy Coo
February 11th, 2008, 07:20 PM
Lets hope the current version is better than this one!

Review (http://www.matousec.com/projects/windows-personal-firewall-analysis/Kerio-Personal-Firewall-4.3.246/)