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Drew99GT
February 4th, 2008, 11:19 AM
I read in a thread here that Returnil had left some malware behind or something to that affect, in a test someone did, and that shadowdefender was more secure in that regard. Is this legitimate? Or are they both equal in terms of security.

Also, is returnil advantages in that it virtualizes in memory instead of your hard drive - less wear on your drive?

Thanks

trjam
February 4th, 2008, 11:21 AM
It applies to both. They are both very good products, but just like all security apps, can not give you 100 percent protection. A good add on though. I would try both and decide.

Drew99GT
February 4th, 2008, 11:41 AM
So when malware was present in the shadow mode of both, upon reboot, malware was still present?

trjam
February 4th, 2008, 11:45 AM
It had something to do with the MBR. Do a search of both products and you will see. They both are really very effective against just about all but it doesnt mena something cant be or wont be created to bypass them.

Peter2150
February 4th, 2008, 12:45 PM
-{ Quote: "

Also, is returnil advantages in that it virtualizes in memory instead of your hard drive - less wear on your drive?

Thanks" }-

Returnil now also has the option to create a disk cache(in the new beta) Also remember that part of what is considered memory is your page file. That is part of the disk.

Coldmoon
February 4th, 2008, 02:29 PM
-{ Quote: "I read in a thread here that Returnil had left some malware behind or something to that affect, in a test someone did, and that shadowdefender was more secure in that regard. Is this legitimate? Or are they both equal in terms of security.

Also, is returnil advantages in that it virtualizes in memory instead of your hard drive - less wear on your drive?

Thanks" }-

Hi Drew99GT,
When using Returnil's System Protection/Session Lock feature, all changes made to your System Partition are lost at reboot as if the changes never happened. It does not protect other partitions on the system. Even if content were left on alternate drives or partitions, it would be totally inactive and your computer would be safe.

The important thing to remember is that ISR (Instant System Recovery) solutions are not decision engines; they will alternately (depending on your choices) Drop all changes, Save some changes, or Save ALL changes. They do not block content from being executed or detected. They do however remove that same content at reboot with protection on (SD and others call this Shadow mode or Frozen mode).

The design behind Returnil is to be targeted and to provide as seamless a computing experience as possible while still providing rock-solid protection for the most critical partition on your computer; the System Partition. Other solutions are designed from different perspectives and priorities so the best advice is to try them and then select the one that is most appropriate for your needs.

This thread can help you understand the differences in greater detail:

http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=196103

HTH
Mike