Best On Demand Scanners?

[DasFox]

I'm considering adding in a on demand scanner to my regular real time protection AV to add in more protection when scan time comes around...

Dr. WebCureIt is the only one demand scanner I hear with good reviews/rants.

Anyone else???

THANKS

[Sjoeii]

How about the Kaspersky avp tool

[Paul Wilders]

Gents,

For the record: it's just fine posting many suggestions as for On Demand Scanners. It's fine as well to comment on the technical ins and outs from them as well. Then again: "scanner X is far better then scanner Y"- discussions are a no-go-area. Please keep that in mind.

Thanks,

Paul

[C.S.J]

{QUOTE-> I'm considering adding in a on demand scanner to my regular real time protection AV to add in more protection when scan time comes around...

Dr. WebCureIt is the only one demand scanner I hear with good reviews/rants.

Anyone else???

THANKS <-QUOTE}
what drwebs cureit gives you is........

apart from being free without needing to install it, its:

a 'very' deep-system scan with high packer support and fantastic removal.

however, it is a slow scanner in comparison to some of the others.

[dawgg]

Many AVs have free Online scanners... Just check on the AV Vendor's website.
You may consider using a different on-demand AV each time you scan :)

Of course, On-Demand AVs like DrWeb's CureIt and Kaspersky's AVPTool (currently Beta) may be better at removing malware though... Not 100% sure about this, but wouldn't be surprised if this is true

[Perman]

Hi,

Online AV scanners may be very convenient, but their data base may not always be up-to-date. Latest/newest threats therefore may not be detected.

Unless some new measures have be taken lately, those are the impression(experience) I have received. I would use any On-demand so long as its signatures are updated regularly, and bears little system impact.

Take care.

[Peter2150]

{QUOTE-> I'm considering adding in a on demand scanner to my regular real time protection AV to add in more protection when scan time comes around...

Dr. WebCureIt is the only one demand scanner I hear with good reviews/rants.

Anyone else???

THANKS <-QUOTE}

DasFox, you love posting these questions, and the results are always them same. Every poster has his own opinion. In the end you will have to try them and see how they work for you. I know you have been pointed to AV-Comparatives. That is a good place to start.

Pete

[Peter2150]

{QUOTE-> How about the Kaspersky avp tool <-QUOTE}

How about a reason.

[computer geek]

{QUOTE-> what drwebs cureit gives you is........

apart from being free without needing to install it, its:

a 'very' deep-system scan with high packer support and fantastic removal.

however, it is a slow scanner in comparison to some of the others. <-QUOTE}
I found out however, what it scans only individual files.

[C.S.J]

{QUOTE-> I found out however, what it scans only individual files. <-QUOTE}
eh, i dont understand what you are trying to say :blink:

[computer geek]

{QUOTE-> eh, i dont understand what you are trying to say :blink: <-QUOTE}
What i'm trying to say is that it only scans one file at a time when you submit it, not your whole drive.

[C.S.J]

{QUOTE-> What i'm trying to say is that it only scans one file at a time when you submit it, not your whole drive. <-QUOTE}
of course it scans the whole drive ::)

[DasFox]

{QUOTE-> DasFox, you love posting these questions, and the results are always them same. Every poster has his own opinion. In the end you will have to try them and see how they work for you. I know you have been pointed to AV-Comparatives. That is a good place to start.

Pete <-QUOTE}


Here's my reply. :)

http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=197910

[DasFox]

post error...

[pugmug]

{QUOTE-> Here's my reply. :)

http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=197910 <-QUOTE}
If you are such an old hand as you state in you link,then why ask?We could ask you the same question but then you would just give what you think is best,correct?What is the point?

[DasFox]

{QUOTE-> If you are such an old hand as you state in you link,then why ask?We could ask you the same question but then you would just give what you think is best,correct?What is the point? <-QUOTE}

SORRY, I'm an old hand for many apps, but I've not used them all, and I personally have never used any on demand scanners, that is why the question.

I have only been using real time, like KAV and NOD for the past 7 years is all, now I see a need for a change they are not cutting it alone anymore...

THANKS

P.S. Sorry I wasn't more specific in the post...

[DasFox]

So would most people agree that Dr. WebCureIt is one on demand scanner no one should be with out, good detections, and cleaning?

I don't expect anyone app to do it all, let's face it none of them do, that is why I want to add in an on demand scanner along with a real time protection AV to add more...

THANKS

[pugmug]

{QUOTE-> So would most people agree that Dr. WebCureIt is one on demand scanner no one should be with out, good detections, and cleaning? <-QUOTE} No,but what does it matter?We all have our own take on hard and software.

[DasFox]

I know everyone has their own take, but there must be some sort of agreement around here on somethings...

It's not a complicated question, please don't make it into one, boy talk about making a mountain out of a mole hill.

It's REAL SIMPLE, does Dr. WebCureIt work good as an on demand scanner? Yes or no? If it's not a good on demand scanner, not an ONLINE demand scanner, then who makes good on demand scanners for free too, or a post talking about these I can read?

It matters because I need to add in some more for, "Inexperienced End-Users".

Simply giving an inexperienced end-user one real time protection AV app isn't cutting it anymore, just like trying to install one Spyware program like Spybot isn't going to catch all the spyware/malware out there.

Don't mean to sound rude, but you get it now? ----> Answer: "You need to have more then one app to help do the job and that is what I'm looking for, some more supplemental AV support". ;)

THANKS

[pugmug]

{QUOTE-> It matters because I need to add in some more for, "Inexperienced End-Users".

Simply giving an inexperienced end-user one real time protection AV app isn't cutting it anymore, just like trying to install one Spyware program like Spybot isn't going to catch all the spyware/malware out there.

Don't mean to sound rude, but you get it now? ----> Answer: "You need to have more then one app to help do the job and that is what I'm looking for, some more supplemental AV support". ;)

THANKS <-QUOTE}
No.Do you, bye stating end use mean yourself or clients you are working on their computers for?

[DasFox]

{QUOTE-> No.Do you, bye stating end use mean yourself or clients you are working on their computers for? <-QUOTE}

Sorry read back up I re-edited the post over.... :)

Yes this is for a friends computer I'm putting on an on demand scanner along with NOD32 v2 because she's a newbie, so I'm going to tell her to use it from time to time along with her spyware apps to scan like once a week...

THANKS

P.S. But I wouldn't mind even adding something to my box also, let's face it even NOD32, KAV, McAfee, Norton, etc., etc., no one single AV app does it all, gets them all too...

[Bubba]

{QUOTE-> on demand scanner <-QUOTE}What is your definition of "on demand scanner" ? I ask that question because if "Dr. WebCureIt" in your mind is an on demand scanner then it IMHO is no different than an online scanner that almost all "well established, solidly performing anti-virus products" have now a day.

{QUOTE-> This utility can quickly clean an infected system, but it is not a permanent tool to cure your computer in case of infection. <-QUOTE}Why, because as it mentions (http://www.freedrweb.com/cureit/), one would need to download the program again if one wishes to have the latest sigs contained in the database say a week from now or a day or two for those needing such coverage.

For discussion sake, let's say it's an online scanner, there then are certain questions one could ask of you.

Do you wish to download a file from AV program ABC each day ?
Do you wish to use online scanners that require ActiveX ?
What operating system will this be on ?

Provide some more information other than "Best On Demand Scanners?" and you might, just might get some comments from "experienced people" instead of the usual one liners.

[pugmug]

{QUOTE->
Sorry read back up I re-edited the post over.... :)

Yes this is for a friends computer I'm putting on an on demand scanner along with NOD32 v2 because she's a newbie, so I'm going to tell her to use it from time to time along with her spyware apps to scan like once a week...

THANKS

P.S. But I wouldn't mind even adding something to my box also, let's face it even NOD32, KAV, McAfee, Norton, etc., etc., no one single AV app does it all, gets them all too... <-QUOTE}
Then let's go back to your link and your statements,shall we?You state that you have been around computers quite awhile,correct?If so then you should know.Have a nice day.

[EliteKiller]

{QUOTE-> It's REAL SIMPLE, does Dr. WebCureIt work good as an on demand scanner? Yes or no? <-QUOTE}
That's already been answered on more than one occasion especially if you use the search. Please keep in mind that both CureIt and Kaspersky's AVP tool are updated multiple times each day. However the new build is only placed on the FTP, so you need to manually download the updated version.

[BlueZannetti]

{QUOTE-> Yes this is for a friends computer I'm putting on an on demand scanner along with NOD32 v2 because she's a newbie, so I'm going to tell her to use it from time to time along with her spyware apps to scan like once a week...

THANKS

P.S. But I wouldn't mind even adding something to my box also, let's face it even NOD32, KAV, McAfee, Norton, etc., etc., no one single AV app does it all, gets them all too... <-QUOTE}If no single AV does it, why would you presume that multiple AV's will fair any better?

If you want to help this person - and it's consistent with the applications and usage style they have - why not one decent AV (NOD32/KAV/Dr Web/Avast/whatever - something decent according to your favorite challenge evalauation) and LUA? Or an AV plus virtualize except for preselected folders? Or about a hundred other options that anyone out there that one could implement as long as they were familiar with the basic approach and/or applications.

Your friend is a newbie - OK - needs to be simple, limited user input and robust. But will you be available as require for assistance if needed? Details like that matter when it comes to specifics.

Blue

[computer geek]

{QUOTE-> of course it scans the whole drive ::) <-QUOTE}
in that case i'm dumb, so please post a link. :-[

[Blackcat]

{QUOTE->
Yes this is for a friends computer I'm putting on an on demand scanner along with NOD32 v2 because she's a newbie, so I'm going to tell her to use it from time to time along with her spyware apps to scan like once a week...

THANKS

P.S. But I wouldn't mind even adding something to my box also, let's face it even NOD32, KAV, McAfee, Norton, etc., etc., no one single AV app does it all, gets them all too... <-QUOTE}
As some members have already indicated, you do not need TWO AVs in a layered defense.

She/newbies would be better protected with a Sandbox (Sandboxie)or/and a behaviour Blocker (ThreatFire) to sit alongside NOD/an AV.

[djohn]

bitdefender also offers on demand however it does run in the system try with automatic updates.

[Blackcat]

{QUOTE-> in that case i'm dumb, so please post a link. :-[ <-QUOTE}
Take a look here (http://www.freedrweb.com/cureit/).

[DasFox]

{QUOTE-> As some members have already indicated, you do not need TWO AVs in a layered defense.

She/newbies would be better protected with a Sandbox (Sandboxie)or/and a behaviour Blocker (ThreatFire) to sit alongside NOD/an AV. <-QUOTE}

I just saw this ThreatFire, that PC Tools bought out.

http://www.threatfire.com/

Never heard of it before...

THANKS

[computer geek]

{QUOTE-> I just saw this ThreatFire, that PC Tools bought out.

http://www.threatfire.com/

Never heard of it before...

THANKS <-QUOTE}
In, that case its kind of like a behaviour monitering thingy.

[Blackcat]

Threatfire has LOTS of threads here at Wilders for you to look at.

See for example;

http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=191853
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=197242
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=195829

[computer geek]

thanks. blackcat

[DasFox]

{QUOTE-> Threatfire has LOTS of threads here at Wilders for you to look at.

See for example;

http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=191853
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=197242
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=195829 <-QUOTE}

THANKS, what's this TF I hear people talking about?

[Blackcat]

{QUOTE-> THANKS, what's this TF I hear people talking about? <-QUOTE}
TF=ThreatFire.

[DasFox]

{QUOTE-> TF=ThreatFire. <-QUOTE}


Ahh ok thanks...

Sounds like Prevx is better...

[C.S.J]

nope its not like prevx.

threatfire uses basic (or advanced... whatever) rules to figure out by a programs behavior if it is a threat or not, it detects executed threats only, as far as im aware.

prevx has its own malware detection, plus technology such as behavior based and sandbox technologys to dig into files to see what it actually could do.

prevx uses an online database, (CIPS)

eg. if a guy in the states runs into a NEW threat, which would be found prevxs behavior/sandbox technologys, prevx will label the file as malware. automatically, at that same moment, i will be protected by that exact new threat here in the UK.

i dont pretend to be an expert with these types of programs, but i do know they aint the same. :wacko:

[DasFox]

What I meant by better is it seems to offer more protection, at least that was the assumption I was under.

[DasFox]

{QUOTE-> nope its not like prevx.

threatfire uses basic (or advanced... whatever) rules to figure out by a programs behavior if it is a threat or not, it detects executed threats only, as far as im aware.

prevx has its own malware detection, plus technology such as behavior based and sandbox technologys to dig into files to see what it actually could do.

prevx uses an online database, (CIPS)

eg. if a guy in the states runs into a NEW threat, which would be found prevxs behavior/sandbox technologys, prevx will label the file as malware. automatically, at that same moment, i will be protected by that exact new threat here in the UK.

i dont pretend to be an expert with these types of programs, but i do know they aint the same. :wacko: <-QUOTE}

This doesn't look good, LOL, looks like I wont be getting TF...
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=196388

[EliteKiller]

It's a good idea to stay on topic or create a new thread for alternate discussion. ;)

[DasFox]

{QUOTE-> It's a good idea to stay on topic or create a new thread for alternate discussion. ;) <-QUOTE}

Yes we are wandering off the road into the ditch, LOL...

But just remember it's ok to make your own post go off topic, just don't hijack someone else's thread is what they say... hehe. ;)

[computer geek]

{QUOTE-> Yes we are wandering off the road into the ditch, LOL...

But just remember it's ok to make your own post go off topic, just don't hijack someone else's thread is what they say... hehe. ;) <-QUOTE}
We are getting of the topic by posting we are getting off the topic unfortunately, and i was stupid enough to get off the topic. ;D

[DasFox]

I want an on demand scanner that's like an AV installed on the box, updates, scans, deletes, etc...

I also had NOD32 v2 installed and it got it's butt kicked, and was over taken. Personally given the track history I've seen with Eset I was really surprised to see that Nod32 was brought to it's knees and crippled. What happened is some virus/malware turned Nod against itself thinking one of it's exes was a virus and removing it, thus killing it.

This made me think to have an extra app on the box to scan weekly to hopefully avoid what NOD32 failed to detect.

For now I think I'll go with ClamAV :)

THANKS

[mrhero]

{QUOTE-> I want an on demand scanner that's like an AV installed on the box, updates, scans, deletes, etc...

THANKS <-QUOTE}

You can use Avira like that. Here is a page that shows how to install Avira for on-demand scanning: http://doctus.org/avira-antivirin-tarama-amacli-demand-t5343.html

Page is turkish but you can understand from screenshots.

[Peter2150]

{QUOTE-> I want an on demand scanner that's like an AV installed on the box, updates, scans, deletes, etc...

I also had NOD32 v2 installed and it got it's butt kicked, and was over taken. Personally given the track history I've seen with Eset I was really surprised to see that Nod32 was brought to it's knees and crippled. What happened is some virus/malware turned Nod against itself thinking one of it's exes was a virus and removing it, thus killing it.

This made me think to have an extra app on the box to scan weekly to hopefully avoid what NOD32 failed to detect.

For now I think I'll go with ClamAV :)

THANKS <-QUOTE}

Out of this thread you came up with ClamAV. Care to explain how you made that decision.

[DasFox]

Thanks, I just put in Avira for real time, and I'll give her ClamAV for on demand, and see how it plays out...

THANKS

[mrhero]

{QUOTE-> Thanks, I just put in Avira for real time, and I'll give her ClamAV for on demand, and see how it plays out...

THANKS <-QUOTE}

My choice would be Avast or AVG on access and Avira on-demand.

[DasFox]

{QUOTE-> Out of this thread you came up with ClamAV. Care to explain how you made that decision. <-QUOTE}

Well actually ClamWin...

Well as a Unix geek I've known of Clam since it started, opensource, free, and been doing fairly well.

And as it's mentioned on their site this will fit the bill for an on demand scanner, and I've never used it, so might as well give it a go...

ClamWin Free Antivirus does not include an on-access real-time scanner. You need to manually scan a file in order to detect a virus or spyware.

THANKS

[BlueZannetti]

{QUOTE-> Well as a Unix geek I've known of Clam since it started, opensource, free, and been doing fairly well. <-QUOTE}The "doing fairly well" really needs a bit of a rethink unless there's been a major (and I do mean major) performance shift of late. Personally, I believe that "open source" and "requires continuous/daily updates" are mutually exclusive in a practical sense.

Blue

[ejames82]

{QUOTE-> Quote:
Originally Posted by DasFox
I want an on demand scanner that's like an AV installed on the box, updates, scans, deletes, etc...

THANKS


You can use Avira like that. Here is a page that shows how to install Avira for on-demand scanning: http://doctus.org/avira-antivirin-ta...and-t5343.html

<-QUOTE}

mrhero,
is there any kind of "tailoring" that is needed to keep it off the startup list, or to keep processes from running in the task manager?
is it easy to uninstall, should some kind of conflict occur?

[C.S.J]

drweb cure it,

download it in 8.25mb, its fully updated, no installation, no processes and FREE.

[ejames82]

CSJ,
there was one advantage i was hoping to receive from avira that i don't think i can from cure-it, i want to use it in safe mode.

[risl]

{QUOTE-> CSJ,
there was one advantage i was hoping to receive from avira that i don't think i can from cure-it, i want to use it in safe mode. <-QUOTE}

CureIt can be used in safe mode, same applies to full dr.web

[farmerlee]

{QUOTE-> mrhero,
is there any kind of "tailoring" that is needed to keep it off the startup list, or to keep processes from running in the task manager?
is it easy to uninstall, should some kind of conflict occur? <-QUOTE}
Just install it minus the real time scanner and remove the startup entry. The scheduler service has to be running in order to be able to update it. You can either let the service run automatically in the background or else set it to manual in which case you'll have to manually start it when you want to update.

Personally i've never had any conflcts or trouble with it but then again i have it installed in a virtual software layer which helps to eliminate problems.

[stapp]

The topic description was 'best on demand scanners'.
Rather an impossible question I suppose. Good on demand scanners, may have been better.

I have just run the Eset online scanner, 135 thousand files in 51 minutes. Ran smoothly although seemed to take a long time over the pc help files.

No problems found.

Large file left on the computer after the scan which people might not realise is there.

Had to run it in IE7, didn't run sandboxed as I always do as didn't know if you can do an online scan sandboxed.


Could be a useful addition to security for occasional supplimentary use.

[ejames82]

CSJ said:

{QUOTE-> download it in 8.25mb, its fully updated, no installation, no processes and FREE <-QUOTE}

farmerlee said:

{QUOTE-> Just install it minus the real time scanner and remove the startup entry <-QUOTE}

i say: "to install, or not to install?, that is the question". i didn't think you installed it.

farmerlee said:

{QUOTE-> The scheduler service has to be running in order to be able to update it. You can either let the service run automatically in the background or else set it to manual in which case you'll have to manually start it when you want to update.

<-QUOTE}
i was hoping to find out if that was the case with avira.
thanks for the answers to my inquiry, Ed

[trjam]

I have found with my setup, Esets to be the most efficient of all of them.:)

[C.S.J]

are you talking about online scanners?

[ejames82]

let me get this right.

risl said:

{QUOTE-> CureIt can be used in safe mode, same applies to full dr.web
<-QUOTE}

how can you use it in safe mode if you don't install it?


when farmerlee said this, he was talking about avira (my fault, he wasn't talking about cure it)

{QUOTE-> Just install it minus the real time scanner and remove the startup entry <-QUOTE}

by the way, thanks for that info, that's exactly what i am looking for in an on-demand scanner specifically for safe mode use.

[C.S.J]

{QUOTE->
how can you use it in safe mode if you don't install it?
<-QUOTE}
Drweb Cureit can be used in safe mode, not a problem at all.

download the package from my sig to your desktop.
reboot in safe mode
click the application cureit on your desktop, click RUN

enjoy :)

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should look like this:

197102

[DasFox]

{QUOTE-> are you talking about online scanners? <-QUOTE}

No sorry, not online.

Well I looked at ClamWin, didn't like that it had to run in the sys tray sucking up resources running in the background for just an on demand scanner, so I tossed it and went with Dr. Web CureIt.

If Kaspersky's AVPTool doesn't present any problems like KAV has over chkdsk, MFT, and iSwift, etc., then this might be another nice tool for detection and removal.

THANKS guys... :)

[ejames82]

thanks CSJ, Ed