PG blocks download

[laureyns]

Starting a download PG blocks it and a pop-up window asks for the name
of the file to be protected:a file that does not exist yet?
Disabling PG does not help.
How to prevent that PG interferes with downloads?
Thanks
Bolleke

[DolfTraanberg]

Screenshot?

[laureyns]

Had first to find out how to post a screenshot!
Bolleke

[laureyns]

Screenshot?

[DolfTraanberg]

http://www.irfanview.com/

[laureyns]

Tried to post screenshot following instructions:
text>preview but as soon as I click on preview,posting follows
immediately.
Have to sort out things better I suppose
Sorry
Bolleke

[bolleke3]

Screenshot!!

[Pilli]

Hi bolleke3,
This is the first time that anyone has reported such a problem. Anyway if IE is on your list it should have all the "Allows" enabled as IE is pretty well embedded into the windows core.
If that does not work, remove IE from the list, if it still does not work ensure that your IE security settings are not set too high thus preventing downloads.

One more thing are you using a third party downloader for downloads? As this may also be a contributing factor.

Pilli

[bolleke3]

Thanks for your reply,Pilli.
I do not use IE but Opera 7.23 with built-in download facility.
Also already tried shutting down ZAPro before downloading;no help.
Is there a way to disable PG for a short time or is it always active?
WKR
Bolleke

[gkweb]

i don't understand your problem, can you give us more details ?

[bolleke3]

As I usually do,I open my browser Opera 7.23,go to a website where
I want to download a file,click on it and normally speaking I can see
the download coming in,make my choice where to save it,etc:the
usual procedure for everybody I suppose.
Since a couple of days,when I start a download,PG intervenes a coup-
le of seconds after the download has started,stops the download and
asks to indicate the file to be protected.Disabling PG is of no help
aince even disabled it starts this procedure.
Pilli asked me to remove IE fm the list what I did;no change!
Should I uninstall PG?

[gkweb]

i think what i don't understand is this :
{QUOTE->
stops the download and asks to indicate the file to be protected
<-QUOTE}

PG can prevent a program to be terminated or a window to be closed, but i have never seen PG asking which file i want to protect.

Do you mean that PG shows you the browse dialog as if you would have click on "add file to protect" ?
I see nothing on your screenshot other than PG disabled (sorry if i'm blind ;))

[bolleke3]

Posting once more a screenshot of PG's popup window that terminates my download as soon as I start the download

[gkweb]

oh so the story is :

you click on a download link
you choose where to save your file
the download starts
the download shutdown itself
PG popups

is that right ?

[bolleke3]

Not exactly,gkweb!
-click on download link
-download visibly starts
-after a second or so,the PG popup-window appears on top of
downloadpage and stops the download
-no time to save since even that usual window to save does not
appear
WKR
Bolleke3

[gkweb]

if you enable the protection and that you put inyour list your browser with full allowances, does it still happens ?

[bolleke3]

Did what you asked me to do:no change!
Uninstalled PG,rebooted and...see what happens now:

[bolleke3]

Strange thing!
Opened latest (beta) version of browser OPERA (7.5) and no problem
to download and no pop-up window fm PG that I uninstalled comple-
tely but still prevents me fm downloading with Opera 7.23.
Any idea for what I should look for in the browser files that has to
be deleted to get rid of that nasty PG-thing?
Thanks!

[Pilli]

Look in your registry for this key & delete it:

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run]
"ProcGuard_Startup"="\"C:\\Program Files\\ProcessGuard\\procguard.exe\" -minimize"

PG shoould not effect your browser down loads, If you are having a problem with one version of Opera & not another then I would guess that it is an Opera problem not PG - Try the Opera forum as it may be a kown problem with that version :)

[laureyns]

Thanks for your advise,Pilli.
Still asking myself what this problem has to do with my browser (one of
them,used when PG was installed).Is it a plugin or something like that?
Asking this question before reinstalling PG and risking to have the same
problems with other browsers than Opera 7.23.
WKR
Bolleke3

[gkweb]

all that i can say is that i use Internet Explorer and Mozilla FireBird as browser and there is no pbs at all.

the fact that you have a pb with one opera version and not with another seems to show that it is more related to opera than to PG.

And as suggested by Pilli, you can install PG but not starting the GUI at startup (the protection is still enabled) and see what happens.

[bolleke3]

May I plse ask you if Procguard.exe is part of PG?
May I delete this file?

[Pilli]

Hi bolleke3

Yes you do need it :)

procguard.exe is the user interface between you and procguard.sys driver.

But once you have set your list in it and enabled ptotection it does not need to be running.

[Jason_DiamondCS]

Just a quick note. I have tested Process Guard (all versions) on Opera 6.x , 7.0 and the very latest version as of Thursday with Process Guard and have not noticed any problems.

-Jason-

[bolleke3]

Still cannot understand it!
I uninstalled PG completely,so,why is that part of PG still there and
could it be the reason of that popup-window when I want to down-
load something?
Have found some reading about Proguard beeing spyware but nothing
about Procguard.exe;could it still be a suspicious file?TDS,Nod32
en Ad-aware found nothing.
Thank you
Bolleke3

[Pilli]

{QUOTE-> Have found some reading about Proguard beeing spyware <-QUOTE}

bolleke3, Where in the world did you read such rubbish? PG makes absolutely no connection outside of your pc. Unless there is another app called procguard and not procguard.exe as developed by DiamondCS.

BTW if as you say you have uninstalled PG then if you still have a pocess guard folder then delete it as you have no further use for it, may also stop your popup

[bolleke3]

@ Jason
I wonder if that popup-window referring to Program Files/PG and
instructing that the file was not found,really is created by PG.
If so,I suppose that you are familiar with the form of it and if not
so,it has nothing to do with PG and must be sort of malware.
Thank you for reading my posts!
Bolleke3

[bolleke3]

Sorry,Pilly,I wrote "Proguard" and not "Process Guard"!
http://www.annoyances.org/exec/forum/winxp/n1071714150
Bolleke3

[Jason_DiamondCS]

{QUOTE-> quoting: bolleke3 link=board=40;threadid=19732;start=0#msg120802 date=1074345825]
As I usually do,I open my browser Opera 7.23,go to a website where
I want to download a file,click on it and normally speaking I can see
the download coming in,make my choice where to save it,etc:the
usual procedure for everybody I suppose.
Since a couple of days,when I start a download,PG intervenes a coup-
le of seconds after the download has started,stops the download and
asks to indicate the file to be protected.Disabling PG is of no help
aince even disabled it starts this procedure.
Pilli asked me to remove IE fm the list what I did;no change!
Should I uninstall PG?
<-QUOTE}

Well I do not understand the above. IF you enabled "Close Message Handling" on Opera (did you?) then Process Guard may popup a window asking whether or not you want to close the window in question. Apart from this human interface dialog (which you have not taken a screenshot of and hence I guess you have never seen it in this context) there is no other Process Guard pop up.

So you will need to find a better way to explain what happens if you want me to help you with the question of "How Process Guard stops you from downloading files in Opera" . I have said that on my systems I can download files in Opera with Process Guard installed.

-Jason-

[bolleke3]

Dear Jason,
Let me first tell you that I am 77 years old and possibly too old to
use a PC in a proper way:sorry for that.
Conc. Opera and "Close message handling",did not find that in the
preferences but changed there "File types" selecting all.
And,ho wonder,I could download (Don't ask me why!)
By one file got a warning that "Process Guard" was needed,but,
that is no problem.
Thank you and all memberswho were so patient with me.
As for me,you may close or delete this thread.
All the best
Bolleke3

[gkweb]

don't speak so sadly :-\

it is just that no one has ever had your pb and that even by installing and testing ourselves Opera we can't reproduce your pb, so this is why we need to ask some questions, it isn't to bother you but to help you :)

I don't have any idea of the why, but i hope your pb will be solved.

EDIT : i think i have found the pb :)

(the following is a french translation, sorry if it doesn't match)

open explorer.exe, go to "tools" and "folder options"

go to "type of files"

browse until "HTML" and "HTM"

click "Modify"

Select for both "opera.exe" in the browsing list

click "OK", "Close"


May be now or after a reboot the pb will be solved :)

[Pilli]

Ah! I may be seeing some light on your problem bolleke3 :) I think you may have a file association problem & somehow you have associated the wrong type of file to PG :)

By the look of it you have given process guard some preferences / associations to a certain kind of file type such as .html, i.e. what programme is needed to open such & such file type, therefore another programme looking for a way of opening that file type thinks PG should do it.
For instance we'll take an .html document as an example.
if you right click on any file type with the extension .html using windows explorer, Right click on the document, then select "open with" then "Chose program" you will get an "Open with" dialogue box listing all your programmes - Select an appropriate programme, in this case opera or IE Then tick the box "To always open this kind of file"

[Pilli]

GK we both connected at the same time :) File associations!

[gkweb]

don't steal my ideas :P

[bolleke3]

Thank you once more,Gentlemen!
My problem is gone and I learned something as well.
Good Night and for me, time to get some sleep without PC-problems
in my head.
Bolleke3

[gkweb]

glad all is working now, good night :)

[Pilli]

GK :) Shame I never saw your post first for I would not have posted my reply 8)

[gkweb]

you have written some of my post content without paid me author royalties and copyright, the price is 5$ US 8)

[Gavin - DiamondCS]

A good thing to do would be ensure that when you download something, you choose SAVE not "open"

This is because most things you download you would want to save, not open and then not have anymore. Perhaps this would be a good time to scan them too :)

[bolleke3]

Morning everybody!
Still better news today:this time problem completely solved.
Got an advice at the Opera-Forum to check File Types under
Preferences;edited them and found one set to open with
Process Guard;changed that and everything ok now.
Suppose that PG made this setting at the install of the prog
and will see too to change that when I reinstall PG.
Kindest Regards
Bolleke3

[Pilli]

Hi bolleke3, I don't think that PG would have changed those preferences.
The only change that it might have made it to add it's .log file to the association list for opening by a text editor, the default being Notepad.
Anyway we are happy that you have solved your problem. ;D

BTW there will be a new more powerful release of Process Guard probably this week. :)

Pilli

[redwolfe_98]

glad you worked it out, bolleke.. i have been reading a lot of posts lately about problems with downloading and installing programs after installing norton internet security, and i was going to suggest that maybe that was the problem..

[bolleke3]

@redwolfe
Nothing of Symantec on my PC after bad experiences a couple of
years ago
@Pilly
In fact my "problem" wasn't a problem,just a lack of knowledge and
I should have known better if I would have gone more carefully
trough my brower's helpfiles.
Next time better (maybe)!
Looking forward for that new version of PG and not too powerful I
hope (for dummies)
Bolleke3

[Jason_DiamondCS]

Glad to hear everything is sorted, have fun bolleke :)

-Jason-

[spy1]

gkweb - Excellent catch. Pete