Is a Mac book really worth it's price?

[dogma]

Hi all

We know Mac books are more expensive compared to standard notebooks, but
is it worth spending more on a Mac Book?

Your opinions.

(Thinking of getting one myself.)

[lodore]

well it depends what you are using it for and you should make sure all the applications you want to run will run on a mac book.
OSX is very stable and you shouldnt have any issues with it.
i still think are they to over priced thou.
lodore

[BlueZannetti]

{QUOTE-> Your opinions. <-QUOTE}I'd say yes.

My older son picked up one a couple of years ago while heading off to college to supplement his Win XP desktop. He loves it and upgraded it to Leopard over the holidays. When all is said and done for a fully configured system, I thought cost was basically a wash when you get down to it. I know perceptions are different, but my checkbook doesn't agree. You really have to look at ongoing total cost of ownership.

As lodore points out, it really depends what you want to do and the environment in which you find yourself. In his case the guidance seemed highly dependent on major (he's an EE and Macs are prevalent). The overall advice from the university was either a Mac or Windows box would likely be fine, but to be aware of degree program requirements that involved the use of specific software. The same advice applies in the job or any other market.

Blue

[aigle]

It is costly but, by God,s wish, my next laptop will be a MacBook! I like the white one.

[dogma]

Well my University will fork up upto 50% for one (depending on the model). So I'm seriously considering one. Although a Mac Book will be a luxury, this will be an opportunity to grab one.

With regards to compatibility, Bootcamp offers dual booting with Windows (XP or Vista). The only software that I'm currently reliant upon is Microsoft Office.

[Mrkvonic]

Hello,
My brother has a both Tiger and Leopard, one iMac, one MacBook, he really loves them. They also improve his work performance, as he's a photographer. From what I've had fun and time to play with them, yes they're worth it.
Mrk

[Huupi]

At the moment if you are a photographer and your in business the only reliable way to do editing is on a fully colormanaged desktopsystem,laptop screens,even the best are lacking in fidelity,but for other purposes they are admirable,specially the ultra portables 12 inch screens from Apple and Dell but then they come at a price.

[lodore]

around november last year it cost £750 for the base model and could only have max of 2gb of ram.
now its only £700 for base model and max of 4gb of ram.
if you want to buy one and want an extra gb of ram buy the extra gb of ram from crucial uk since its alot cheaper.
lodore

[Huupi]

{QUOTE-> around november last year it cost £750 for the base model and could only have max of 2gb of ram.
now its only £700 for base model and max of 4gb of ram.
if you want to buy one and want an extra gb of ram buy the extra gb of ram from crucial uk since its alot cheaper.
lodore <-QUOTE}

and you are noting us about which vendor . ???

[iceni60]

the only laptop i'd get is an Eeepc, i think that's worth the money, it's probably 5 times cheaper! i love them.

here's the Linux Journal's review of it. it's far cooler than a Mac, and tougher too, and quieter, and other things i can't think of now, but compared to this i don't think a mac is worth the money, their laptops are ugly!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGmZZibb33E

[lodore]

{QUOTE-> and you are noting us about which vendor . ??? <-QUOTE}
apple uk store for the macbook.
crucial uk for extra ram.
lodore

[huangker]

I've never been a Mac fan. My girlfriend's dad was considering getting one. I told my girlfriend that I wouldn't feel comfortable dating someone that has a MacBook in their family :P.

Biases aside though, I'd prefer a Windows laptop simply because I value choice and variety and Windows being the dominant OS means that theres a lot more choice when it comes to software. But that means that there can be lots of bugs from third party drivers and software and not everything is tightly integrated.

There is the appeal of a tightly integrated system and that is what the Mac is.

Beyond that, I think what system you use also says a bit about you. Though at where I study law, the Mac crowd seem to think that they are just really cool. Seminars are conducted via the socratic method and some of Mac users just don't know when to STFU.

[Huupi]

Speaking of eye candy,the new mac books look fantastic,very small and slick design and everywere good reviews,some complain about the glossy screens though.

[Huupi]

{QUOTE-> the only laptop i'd get is an Eeepc, i think that's worth the money, it's probably 5 times cheaper! i love them.

here's the Linux Journal's review of it. it's far cooler than a Mac, and tougher too, and quieter, and other things i can't think of now, but compared to this i don't think a mac is worth the money, their laptops are ugly!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGmZZibb33E <-QUOTE}

Eeepc is lovely small notebook but reading the specs it just for light office work,harddisk is 5 gig.so obvious not for the average user.

[Coolio10]

{QUOTE-> Eeepc is lovely small notebook but reading the specs it just for light office work,harddisk is 5 gig.so obvious not for the average user. <-QUOTE}
Its linux.......5GB is like 160GB for windows.

[BlueZannetti]

{QUOTE-> Its linux.......5GB is like 160GB for windows. <-QUOTE}I don't think so.... 5GB is... 5GB. It's Linux, not magic.

Blue

[lucas1985]

{QUOTE-> I don't think so.... 5GB is... 5GB. It's Linux, not magic. <-QUOTE}
Right, however 5 GB is more than enough for the purpose of the Eee PC (web browsing, mailing, document editing and light multimedia playing)
It isn't a gaming machine, a full-blown workstation, a number crunching PC or designed to carry and play your huge media library.

[Huupi]

{QUOTE-> Right, however 5 GB is more than enough for the purpose of the Eee PC (web browsing, mailing, document editing and light multimedia playing)
It isn't a gaming machine, a full-blown workstation, a number crunching PC or designed to carry and play your huge media library. <-QUOTE}

But then they are planning i understand to release also with XP in near future,and with a bigger drive as well.Obviously with XP its the biggest market !

No mention of Vista though.

[BlueZannetti]

{QUOTE-> Right, however 5 GB is more than enough for the purpose of the Eee PC (web browsing, mailing, document editing and light multimedia playing)
It isn't a gaming machine, a full-blown workstation, a number crunching PC or designed to carry and play your huge media library. <-QUOTE}and I think this class of machine is something to pay close attention to. For someone that travels a fair amount or needs/desires high mobility for other reasons. I'd already thought of picking one up sometime.

In that vein and bringing it back to the Mac.... it fits in this thread in another context. I received an iPod Touch (4.3 x 0.3 x 2.4 inches, 16 GB, wireless enabled with Safari as the browser) as a gift over the holidays. Handle one of these at an open wireless hotspot with a cup of coffee for 30 minutes, and lots of ideas pop into your head. You can carry and play that huge media library - I did while traveling last week. It's not the other things, but they could get there. To me this redefines the potential scope of the iPod halo effect. Apple appears to be a product or two away from a seamless progression between the iPod Shuffle to a Mac Pro. Think of an integrated product array that goes from the shirt pocket to genuine heavy duty computing. Well, it's here and it's from Apple.

Blue

[Meriadoc]

'Worth its price'

YES - if your productive, work with media they are superb! Simpler than a PC to get around and use.

[lucas1985]

{QUOTE-> and I think this class of machine is something to pay close attention to. For someone that travels a fair amount or needs/desires high mobility for other reasons. I'd already thought of picking one up sometime. <-QUOTE}
I concur with your observation. The Eee PC and similar devices are the beginning of a new age in mobile computing. OTOH, there are people demanding more DTR (desktop replacement machines) AKA laptops with SLI, RAIDed HDDs and 15 minutes of battery life. Come on.
From Overclockers.com (http://www.overclockers.com/tips01279/)
{QUOTE-> We've thought for a long, long time that once computers got "fast enough" for most people, they'd start asking for less. Less weight. Less size. Less complexity. Less cost. <-QUOTE}
I'm waiting for the second (or third?) revision of the Eee PC, the resolution (too much scrolling), screen size and battery life (it should be around 6 hs) are lower than what I expect.
{QUOTE-> Apple appears to be a product or two away from a seamless progression between the iPod Shuffle to a Mac Pro. Think of an integrated product array that goes from the shirt pocket to genuine heavy duty computing. Well, it's here and it's from Apple. <-QUOTE}
True. Apple is at the front of the innovation, taking bits from already existent products, developing some nice concepts and wrapping all in a good-looking, user-friendly UI.
Let's wait and see what Google will bring to this.

[monkeysmagic]

{QUOTE-> Speaking of eye candy,the new mac books look fantastic,very small and slick design and everywere good reviews,some complain about the glossy screens though. <-QUOTE}

Am I the only one who thinks Mac's are ugly?

[lucas1985]

{QUOTE-> Am I the only one who thinks Mac's are ugly? <-QUOTE}
I'm with you in this. I prefer other forms of industrial, minimalistic design.

[Close_Hauled]

It is all up to the user and what the user wants to get out of it. I own systems with XP and Vista, as well as Leopard. I have been a network engineer and programmer for over 20 years and used almost every OS that has come out in that time. I can say hands down that my new MacBook Pro is the most fun to work with. I absolutely love XCode (http://developer.apple.com/tools/xcode/), which comes free with the Mac OS. Right out of the box, you can start programming in AppleScript, C++, Objective-C, Java, Python and some other languages that come with it. Here is a good article on what I a am talking about:

http://www.osweekly.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2722&Itemid=449

And here are two InfoWorld articles that are very informative on this subject:

MacBook Pro:

http://www.infoworld.com/slideshow/2008/01/146-2008_technology-8.html

OS X 10.5:

http://www.infoworld.com/slideshow/2008/01/148-2008_technology-2.html

After you click on the links, click on "FULL STORY" to read the entire articles. I read them both and they are spot on.

I think if you want more than just hardware, then the Macs are the way to go. The operating system is so much more integrated and faster than Windows (Don't get me wrong, I like Windows too). Everything you need comes with the system, except an office suite. iWork, Office, or some other package will need to be purchased separately.

If I was to sum it up, I would say that, for me, Leopard is much more fun to play with. It is an inviting OS to someone who wants to tinker with the OS.

It is also the only Unix OS that truly isolates the novice user from the OS. You will not have to go to the command line in order to install software. Advanced users can download and compile Unix apps to their hearts content. But the novice does not need to do this at all. In fact, I think that a lot of people don't realize that OS X is a Unix OS.

[C.S.J]

i was interested in a mac once.... but the price put me off,

i didnt understand paying more for a laptop (double) that i wouldnt be able to install all my favourite programs on.

[Close_Hauled]

{QUOTE-> I received an iPod Touch (4.3 x 0.3 x 2.4 inches, 16 GB, wireless enabled with Safari as the browser) as a gift over the holidays. Handle one of these at an open wireless hotspot with a cup of coffee for 30 minutes, and lots of ideas pop into your head. You can carry and play that huge media library - I did while traveling last week. It's not the other things, but they could get there. To me this redefines the potential scope of the iPod halo effect. Apple appears to be a product or two away from a seamless progression between the iPod Shuffle to a Mac Pro. Think of an integrated product array that goes from the shirt pocket to genuine heavy duty computing. Well, it's here and it's from Apple. <-QUOTE}
I got one of these for my daughter for Christmas and she loves the thing. She is the quintessential gadget freak and text messenger. She was IM'ing and e-mailing with it in no time. I will be getting one for me pretty soon.

[dNor]

Generally I'd say yes. If you don't want or need any of the features a Macbook or OS X would provide, there's cheaper alternatives. Otherwise, a Macbook (and especially Macbook Pro) is a very fine piece of hardware bundled with a fine piece of software.

[BlueZannetti]

{QUOTE-> I will be getting one for me pretty soon. <-QUOTE}They are rather neat, and there's a few more applications on them now (http://www.apple.com/ipodtouch/). I'll be updating...

Blue

[Close_Hauled]

We did not discuss the new MacBook Air either:

http://www.apple.com/macbookair/guidedtour/

That is just sexy.

[C.S.J]

also disturbing is the price difference between US and UK stores.

as usual, we get the much higher priced version of the SAME PRODUCT :(

[Coolio10]

{QUOTE-> We did not discuss the new MacBook Air either:

http://www.apple.com/macbookair/guidedtour/

That is just sexy.
<-QUOTE}
Hmm..

Starting at $1799. I am guessing that is U.S pricing so Canadian it will be over $2000 with tax.

Incredibly thin though. Imagine dropping it.

[dNor]

{QUOTE-> Hmm..

Starting at $1799. I am guessing that is U.S pricing so Canadian it will be over $2000 with tax.

Incredibly thin though. Imagine dropping it. <-QUOTE}

I can see the $1799 1.6GHz/PATA model being at least attainable...but the only other model, the $3098 1.8GHz/Solid-state, is ridiculous. SS drives are expensive, but having two models with such a pricing disparity is a bit much...

[C.S.J]

{QUOTE-> I can see the $1799 1.6GHz/PATA model being at least attainable.... <-QUOTE}
just be glad, because at the UK store, the same one is offered to us for over $2000.

and its surely not worth it for a 1.6ghz machine with an 80gb HD, regardless of how thin the laptop is.

[Huupi]

I don't bother with this stuff cause its all windows in my office,i am looking for a nice little Dell,reading from the specs they have much more to offer for the money,and yes great support.

[dogma]

I'll be getting my hands on a new MAC next month, God willing. Thanks iceni60, I'm definitely going to get the EEEPC too by the end of this year. Bee waiting for somethimg like this to come out for a long time. The news of it being released with Win Xp doesn't enthral me much, because it would lead to a sharp price rise.

The EEEPC also solves my problem of portability aswell, which makes the decision of getting a Macbook Pro over a Macbook a lot easier.

Thank you all.

[ethernal]

i enjoyed mac when they used the POWER arch, it suited my needs better.

intel might be cheaper and have more clock cycles, but they're not well suited for crunching raw data methinks.

[Huupi]

{QUOTE-> i enjoyed mac when they used the POWER arch, it suited my needs better.

intel might be cheaper and have more clock cycles, but they're not well suited for crunching raw data methinks. <-QUOTE}


but then here its about notebooks and as far as i understand choosing the one above the other is very personal and not dictated by performance directly.

Also if compared highend PC and PowerMac the difference is negliable cause both use now comparable hardware,in the end its a question of taste i think.

In prices at the moment real highend PC's cost you more then latest PowerMacs !

[lucas1985]

{QUOTE-> intel might be cheaper and have more clock cycles, but they're not well suited for crunching raw data methinks. <-QUOTE}
The Core microarchitecture has a great IPC and high clock speed. Besides that, SSE is as fast and equally capable as Altivec in practice.

[ethernal]

the hypertransport between the cores, or physical processors are nowhere near as high bandwidth.

[farmerlee]

I read somewhere that the macbook air has a non removable battery which i think is a terrible idea. Can anyone confirm?

[BlueZannetti]

{QUOTE-> I read somewhere that the macbook air has a non removable battery which i think is a terrible idea. Can anyone confirm? <-QUOTE}Not user removable is probably a better way to put it. It's like an iPod - a change is best handled by service folks. To make the size specifications, it had to be more mechanically integrated into the system.

Blue

[lucas1985]

{QUOTE-> the hypertransport between the cores, or physical processors are nowhere near as high bandwidth. <-QUOTE}
(¿?)
Care to explain?

[lucas1985]

{QUOTE-> Not user removable is probably a better way to put it. It's like an iPod - a change is best handled by service folks. <-QUOTE}
Well, if you buy a Macbook Air for mobility, the lack of user-replaceable battery is a serious drawback. A good amount of travelers carry already charged batteries to replace the exhausted ones.
IMO, the Macbook Air has too much design compromises for a ultraportable.

[BlueZannetti]

{QUOTE-> IMO, the Macbook Air has too much design compromises for a ultraportable. <-QUOTE}Physically there are some serious constraints. That said, an external battery solution is actually a reasonable compromise. I could see this as being a future accessory, much like the external superdrive.

Blue

[lucas1985]

When you start to add more and more external accessories, it loses its portability :)

[Huupi]

{QUOTE-> When you start to add more and more external accessories, it loses its portability :) <-QUOTE}

Yes,ultra portable with portable optical drive,portable battery,portable memory and portable Mobo.You have quite a lot to carry around. :D

[BlueZannetti]

{QUOTE-> When you start to add more and more external accessories, it loses its portability :) <-QUOTE}A second battery is basically an external accessory of sorts as well, isn't it?

Blue

[ethernal]

hai lucas! *waves*

on multiple core/cpu systems, threaded applications that does heavy work sometimes need to inter-communicate between the threads.

instead of going all the way out to RAM and then back, you have "connectors" between the cores and the physical cpu's.

on x86 this one is generally fine for the purposes most people use their computers for. macintosh and well any RISC'ish computer are usually used for huge calculations (like applying a filter on a really large photoshop image) so you need bigger "connectors" between the processor parts.

this is basically what hyper transports are. for everyday use, you won't notice the difference, but with applications that support multiple cpu's and do big big work, it really helps.

and by the way, for you who mentioned ipod touch, i saw a little write-up how to install network testing tools on it, like a portable security suite :)

i use my sony PSP for that a lot.. nobody expects the spanish inquisition! (nor suspecting that a dorkish looking person who's playing a video game is actually scanning your network for holes :))

[Huupi]

heavy load and numbercrunching its better to have a desktop for,bottleneck in heavy calc. is not processor but memory,development in memory is lagging as compared with modern cores so its mainly a shortage of the bandwidth that hold you back,at least with latest photoshop among others,Scott Byer developper from Adobe has done some expanded testing on this and came to this conclusion.

[dogma]

Update

Hi all

Finally got my Macbook this week. So have been running it for just under a week.

The build quality, iSight camera, aesthetics, etc are better in my opinion than other notebooks around the same price bracket. The wireless connection with my router is significantly better compared to my notebook with an Intel® PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection (running XP MCE).

At first I was annoyed with a single-click button on the touchpad, however this vanished after I learnt how to enable the two finger right-click gesture.

Anyone know what the techinal specs of the iSight webcam and the Wireless adapter are?

My next desktop will, God willing, definitely be an iMac! (which also looks great and has NO TOWER!)

[aigle]

I like white MacBook over Black.

Anyone has an idea, after some time, say one year, does white one will look more older than black? I mean is white color more prone to scratches etc.

[WSFuser]

@dogma:

{QUOTE-> Apple also uses the "iSight" name to brand its built-in video camera component found in all MacBook, MacBook Air and MacBook Pro notebook computers as well as iMac desktop computers produced in or after late 2005, although it is not the same device as the external iSight. While similar devices, the built-in iSight uses an internal USB 2.0 interface, not the FireWire 400 (IEEE 1394a) method used by the external iSight camera. [1] Further, the built-in iSight has a plastic lens, is fixed-focus, and uses a CMOS Active pixel sensor, rather than the CCD used in the external iSight. With the LED-Backlit MacBook Pros, Apple has moved to using a sensor capable of 1280x960, but when accessed using provided APIs, the image is re-sampled to 640x480. <-QUOTE}
Source: Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISight#Built-in_iSight)

As for the wireless:

{QUOTE-> Built-in AirPort Extreme Wi-Fi wireless networking (based on IEEE 802.11n draft specification); IEEE 802.11a/b/g compatible <-QUOTE}
Source: Apple - MacBook - Technical Specifications (http://www.apple.com/macbook/specs.html)

[BlueZannetti]

{QUOTE-> Anyone has an idea, after some time, say one year, does white one will look more older than black? I mean is white color more prone to scratches etc. <-QUOTE}Based on my son's white Macbook, which is now 2 years old and has received a lot of use/travel...., it doesn't show significant wear.

From a casual (and admittedly superficial) technical perspective, black gloss surfaces generally do show surface wear faster than an equivalent white surface (it has to do with the surface reflection of light and surface based light scattering at scratch points)

Blue

[aigle]

Thanks Blue! I though white might be more vulnerable.

[BlueZannetti]

{QUOTE-> Thanks Blue! I though white might be more vulnerable. <-QUOTE}The biggest issues with white are staining (don't spill that cup of coffee on the Macbook! There are other consequences as well, as my son found out with his first one....) and yellowing over time. The former is clearly avoidable, the latter is highly dependent on exposure to sun and environmental oxidants. Apple also uses a white with a mild cream hue (compare it closely to a bright white surface) to suppress the impact of age based yellowing/etc.

Blue

[aigle]

So creamy white will be better ooption I think?

BTW do u recommend spilling a cup of coffee on a non-Mac?;D

[BlueZannetti]

{QUOTE-> So creamy white will be better ooption I think? <-QUOTE}Aesthetically, I'd prefer black, but it's a bit of an upcharge ($100)
{QUOTE-> BTW do u recoomend spilling a cup of coffee on a non-Mac? <-QUOTE}It's terrible waste of good coffee on any computer, so no.

One thing to appreciate is that as components are increasingly tightly packed into smaller and smaller physical volumes, and this is true of any of the smaller laptops, the impact of unfortunate events ramps up. In this case (minor spill into keyboard), the only surviving elements were the plastic shell and hard drive. It was a useful lesson to learn..., expensive..., but useful.

Blue

[aigle]

{QUOTE-> Aesthetically, I'd prefer black, but it's a bit of an upcharge ($100) <-QUOTE}To me pearly whie looks more cool. That,s the reason I had even think of LG laptops, they have many models with white keyboard, palm rest etc.{QUOTE->
It's terrible waste of good coffee on any computer, so no.
<-QUOTE}
lol

[rarebeast]

at the moment i'm thinking of getting a macbook, the price is putting me off alot btu i'm going to america and can get it €270/£210 cheaper. is it worth getting it??

[The Hammer]

{QUOTE-> I'm with you in this. I prefer other forms of industrial, minimalistic design. <-QUOTE}So that makes for a total of two who don't like the design yourself and monkeysmagic.:) ;D .

[dendrobates]

Yes and no,

First, i think it is much more expensive then it should be, rather stupid of
Apple, because if it was cheaper, more people would buy it, and in the end they would earn more.

Just like one of the previous posters i work with all kinds of OS-es simultaneously for more then 20 years now.

And to be honest, i think that MacOS Leopard is the best OS for a workstation at this moment.
I am a owner of a MacBook Pro and i think it works great, i run VMware fusion on it, and combined with spaces i can easily switch between XP-pro ,Vista, Leopard
and each OS runs faster then it does on my other laptop i have bought at the same time a half a year ago for my wife (Toshiba 2 GB).

But more over, it is a classic story, as a Security Pro, i think
Leopard is more stable, faster and more secure then any other OS.
It has more features, and especially graphics, Itunes, Iphoto the build in webcam.
The fact that i can show a Windows Application problem, to one of my colleagues, live via Ichat ,
or show a Keynote presentation to him at the office, when i am at home, is fantastic.

And although it has some security problems, most Apple users are working for years now without any extra 3rd party Security application.

Av-comparatives tested with 1.7 Million malware samples on Windows
at their last comparatives, for Apple users this is unbelievable.
And if a security problem occurs, Apple fix it, and don't let 3rd party software
do the job.

So MacOs is great? No it is too expensive for a normal user,
The hardware can't be sold by a normal computer company, because
they get a very very low margin i guess 5% of the low margin they have on a pc.
And you always are depended on the Apple monopoly of their hardware and software. (often need to buy any application, you can get for free for Windows)

If Leopard would run (legal) on a normal pc, Microsoft would have a serious problem, but again is doesn't.

One thing is certain, Leopard is the easiest new OS there is to learn, by far.
It is much easier then Windows/XP/Vista and Linux etc.

Although MacOS has serious problems with Safari (security) i think it is great.

On my Windows systems, i am always busy with maintenance on the OS
and the Security applications, on Leopard the time i need to spend on that
is almost nothing.

So i think the OS is great, the hardware is great, i hate the monopoly, the prices are much to high, it sometimes is difficult to get the right software,
but if you can afford to buy an other OS besides your Windows System
I recommend Leopard. But the best thing is to have Both Windows and Leopard, i can't live without both of them. ;)

By running Windows under VMware Fusion on Mac, it is easy to backup the Windows System
(don't need True Image etc, or make snapshots) and it is easy to switch to another OS if you need to reboot Windows .

[L815]

My opinion:
No



Reasons:
- Build my own (fairly simple, tons of guides for newbies)
- PC parts are very flexible with other pc parts
- With $1200+ for a Mac Laptop, I can build a super desktop or buy a better Laptop
- Proprietary
- I trust part manufacturers with drivers for THEIR OWN PRODUCT more than one group type thing.

[rarebeast]

i'm thinking of buying a mac book but its very expensive. one of the reasons that i really want to get a mac because its alot safer than windows but is the money really worth it? ???

[HURST]

There are some threads regardings mac on the "software and services" section...
I can't vote since I'm still trying to make up my mind on the subject ;D

[dawgg]

Right... where can we vote :)

[The Hammer]

I want to exercise my right to vote now. I said now.;D But my vote will be yes.

[lodore]

macs are propiority so you have to buy both thew software and hardware from apple which is expensive.
i was trying out a macbook pro yesterday at college. i found it quite weird and found no benefits.

[WSFuser]

Heres the previous thread: Is a Mac book really worth it's price? (http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=197265)

If I was concerned about safety I would just get a laptop and put Linux. Im not awed with Macs and I dont like proprietary stuff either.

[Carver]

I used to be in awe of the Power MACs (that was a while ago, and I knew nothing about computers) but then I bought a PC ;D

[The Hammer]

{QUOTE-> macs are proprietary so you have to buy both thew software and hardware from apple which is expensive.
i was trying out a macbook pro yesterday at college. i found it quite weird and found no benefits. <-QUOTE}There is a lot of third party software both paid and free for Macs now. Check out Major geeks for example.

[djohn]

I think there safer due to market share for now.I think the question Is depending on your needs is it worth it.for general internet,email,IM chats etc,I would say no.I deceided against one back in february mostly due to software availabilty and price.most of the software I like is windows based.the plus side you can run dual OS with macs leopard/windows but whats the point kinda defeats the security.On the other hand unix OS is pretty secure and stable.just my 2 pennies

[InfinityAz]

Question is similar to is Vista worth the money? Yes or no depending on your circumstances, needs, etc.

Try using a Macbook for a month and then decide if it's worth the money. Most people who do this end up keeping the Macbook.

All I know is that my next notebook computer will be a Mac.

[HiTech_boy]

{QUOTE-> i'm thinking of buying a mac book but its very expensive. one of the reasons that i really want to get a mac because its alot safer than windows but is the money really worth it? ??? <-QUOTE}


I have always wanted to buy myself a Mac but when it comes to buying a new computer , it is the power of money which make me buy a new Windows computer . Anyway , I really love the new Macbook Air (http://www.apple.com/macbookair/) . If you have the money , get a Mac . It is a very nice toy ;D If somehow you get bored of it , you can run Windows on a VM from the Mac :thumb:

[lodore]

{QUOTE-> I have always wanted to buy myself a Mac but when it comes to buying a new computer , it is the power of money which make me buy a new Windows computer . Anyway , I really love the new Macbook Air (http://www.apple.com/macbookair/) . If you have the money , get a Mac . It is a very nice toy ;D If somehow you get bored of it , you can run Windows on a VM from the Mac :thumb: <-QUOTE}
or dual boot using bootcamp

[millertime26]

I agree with the above comment. If you have the money to do it, get a mac...otherwise, I've always been happy with my PC running Windows.

[djohn]

One other thing about macs from what I have heard, they hold there resale value better then any windows base pc.So seems to be a better investment.

[strangequark]

{QUOTE-> Am I the only one who thinks Mac's are ugly? <-QUOTE}

No :o

[RAD]

I am certainly no Apple expert, but when I was having troubles with VISTA, I got a little fed up and started pricing Macs.

All I can say is I was truly appalled and decided it was well worth my time to try downloading a few more drivers for Vista. :D

My other experience with Apple is in buying my daughter an iPod. Odf course kids have to have exactly what the fad item is. But I was really disappointed to discover that the $200 iPod does not do everything that my wife's $30 MP3 player does and it is much more difficult to operate the iPod. I have the impression that Apple is sort of a cult. :D
They Mac-guy vs. PC-guy commercials ARE hilarious though !
Maybe that is what you help pay for. :D

[HURST]

{QUOTE-> They Mac-guy vs. PC-guy commercials ARE hilarious though ! <-QUOTE}

I find the ones where PC "wins" funnier.

There are some where both PC and MAC make fun of linux... that was a good laugh.

[The Hammer]

{QUOTE-> I find the ones where PC "wins" funnier.

There are some where both PC and MAC make fun of linux... that was a good laugh. <-QUOTE}I haven't seen those . But I do enjoy the ones I have seen.

[L815]

I wouldn't mind running OSX on my PC if it was that way. Though I would not switch to Mac entirely when I could just go to Linux :)

I understand why they keep it to Mac hardware only, and the insecure theories that porting to PC would give Mac a bad name when Driver issues occurr. It's reasonable, but when you have hardware manufacturers giving the drivers to begin with, I don't see it as big as a problem.

[RAD]

PC-Guy vs. Mac-Dude vs......

LINUX-MAN :
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a200/gimmetaker/samuel.gif

[HURST]

{QUOTE-> PC-Guy vs. Mac-Dude vs......

LINUX-MAN :
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a200/gimmetaker/samuel.gif <-QUOTE}

WTF????? :blink:

[L815]

I was expecting Mr Tux... I have been fooled :'(

[sweater]

I saw many Apple laptops in movies, tv's and everywhere. So I think they're good...and maybe people likes it coz of its cool elegant looks..and of course many loves to eat an apple. 8)

[chrisretusn]

I think it's worth it. I like Macs, not much of a laptop person though. I am looking at an iMac or Mac Pro.

[rarebeast]

i was reading this article about imovie and it said that when you save a video that was made in imovie its always going to be some where on your hard drive unless you pick your way through the whole hard drive and delete it,i dont mean just where you saved it, i dont know whether this is true or not ???

[huangker]

{QUOTE-> I have the impression that Apple is sort of a cult. :D
They Mac-guy vs. PC-guy commercials ARE hilarious though !
Maybe that is what you help pay for. :D <-QUOTE}

It is the "I'm young and cool so I need a product that makes me different" cult. Too bad eveyone else in the cult has the same product :P

[Mrkvonic]

Hello,
Well, if you are into graphics or movie editing, then MAC is the way to go.
Has nothing to do with young or cool.
Mrk

[huangker]

{QUOTE-> Hello,
Well, if you are into graphics or movie editing, then MAC is the way to go.
Has nothing to do with young or cool.
Mrk <-QUOTE}

I goto law school. No one uses it for video editing. Email and word processing mostly.

[farmerlee]

{QUOTE-> I saw many Apple laptops in movies, tv's and everywhere. So I think they're good...and maybe people likes it coz of its cool elegant looks..and of course many loves to eat an apple. 8) <-QUOTE}
Everyone knows an apple a day keeps the doctor away :).

But seriously i would probably get a mac just because they look so elegant. Not too long ago i was almost tempted to get a 24" imac however at the time they only came with mid range video cards which just doesn't cut it for what i need.