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notageek
June 21st, 2002, 12:29 PM
I'm using cookiewall and POW right now. I would like to know if there is a program that will stop them along with ads. I don't want to be running all these programs all at once if I don't have to. I would also like to know how do I keep the login cookies with cookiewall? I click always accept the cookie and when I log back into the net and go to the web site i have to enter my username and password all the time.

Prince_Serendip
June 21st, 2002, 12:41 PM
:) Hi Notageek! Naviscope will do all that you are seeking and some more. I have the link to download it here (for the latest version) from their website:
http://www.naviscope.com/

You can read about all its features. It's free. ;D

FanJ
June 21st, 2002, 01:22 PM
-{ Quote: " quoting: notageek link=board=20;threadid=1968;start=0#14154 date=1024676965]
I'm using cookiewall and POW right now. I would like to know if there is a program that will stop them along with ads. I don't want to be running all these programs all at once if I don't have to. I would also like to know how do I keep the login cookies with cookiewall? I click always accept the cookie and when I log back into the net and go to the web site i have to enter my username and password all the time.
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Hi Notageek, Welcome!
Is there perhaps some setting in some program on your system which deletes cookies every time? If that is the case, then cookies will be deleted no mather what you tell CookieWall.
BTW: I'm afraid I'm not familiar with POW....

notageek
June 21st, 2002, 01:39 PM
Thank you Prince_Serendip and FanJ.
FanJ POW is a pop up stopper from analogx. It's a good program but like I said before I would like to find a program that does both and even kill ads. The only program with will delete the cookies and stuff on my computer is Spider and Internet Sweeper. I have not ran either of them for a week now just to see if that was the problem. It's not. I think it has something to do with cookiewall.


Prince_Serendip I'm gonna look into naviscape. Thanks for the sugestion.


If anyone else have a suggestion let me know. Thanks.

helpin
June 21st, 2002, 07:08 PM
Just be sure you understand what Naviscope is. It is an http proxy which means every site you surf to goes to naviscope first. Neat program but I won't use it because it's proxy based. If you don't mind spending a little money popup cop is a similar do it all program. I use it and it is great. http://www.popupcop.com/

Seeker1
June 21st, 2002, 10:32 PM
I tried Naviscope (for a few minutes), when it automatically tried to call home immediately after the installation reboot, and I couldn't find any updater to turn off, I got rid of it. I now use Proxomitron, and like it very much. It is a proxy, but it only acts as a local proxy (doesn't call anyone that you don't type in) . Proxo has a vast number of filters to accomplish many operations, including the one that you want. To be able to master this program takes a bit of study, but it works quite well just out of the box.

notageek
June 21st, 2002, 11:48 PM
Thank you seeker1 and helpin.
helpin a friend of mine told me the same thing about naviscope. So I didn't download it and run it.

Checkout
June 22nd, 2002, 08:01 AM
-{ Quote: " quoting: helpin link=board=20;threadid=1968;start=0#14186 date=1024700917]I won't use it because it's proxy based." }-
Could you explain, please?

spy1
June 22nd, 2002, 09:09 AM
http://www.naviscope.com/FAQ.htm#6 Pete

Tassie_Devils
June 22nd, 2002, 11:24 AM
notageek:

I use Adsubtract Pro [$US29.95_ not cheap but very very good]

www.adsubtract.com

It blocks: Ads, cookies, java script, java applets, backgrounds,

Features PRO
Blocks banner ads
Speeds surfing
Blocks pop-ups
Blocks animated flash ads
Filters cookies
Blocks pop-unders
1 year of database updates
Blocks background music
Supports sound schemes
Block 'referrer' strings
Single Click Cookie Cleanup
Customize the ad database
Clear browsing history

Once you finish browsing, open up the interface, then delete the cookies..... very simple.

You simply configure it to whatever for all sites, then add sites you wish to allow certain things for,.... can't recommend it enough IMOH.



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notageek
June 22nd, 2002, 09:28 PM
Thank you tassie. I'll look into it.

Prince_Serendip
June 22nd, 2002, 10:10 PM
Here is a quote from Naviscope FAQ #6 -{ Quote: " Naviscope doesn't collect any information about your hardware or browsing habits or anything else. The only transmission of information is an occasional "ping" to our website for the purpose of checking for upgrades.
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I've never had a problem with it. And it does not use a proxy. I don't use one. It has an option to block referrers. Use spy1's link and check it out for yourself.

helpin
June 22nd, 2002, 10:43 PM
-{ Quote: "I've never had a problem with it. And it does not use a proxy. I don't use one. It has an option to block referrers. Use spy1's link and check it out for yourself. " }-

Naviscope doesn't use a proxy?
Go to the web site and read what Naviscope is.
I saw Spy1's link and wondered how he missed #2:
http://www.naviscope.com/FAQ.htm#2
Read the first sentence.
Too many other programs out there to trust a third party with fetching my requests and passing them along to me.

Seeker1
June 23rd, 2002, 02:08 AM
Prince_Serendip,

You terminated your quote of the Naviscope FAQs before getting to the good part:

The only transmission of information is an occasional "ping" to our website for the purpose of checking for upgrades. The version check ammount to a transmission of about 60 to 70 bytes, the only information sent in this packet is the information necessary to determine upgrade availability, such as your Naviscope version number, registration status, the Naviscope application type and the Naviscope shareware numbers. The only information received from the Naviscope website is a list of ecommerce sites -- this list is used to display the Naviscope Shopping Menu on the Naviscope toolbar. The Shopping menu is automatically updated from the Naviscope website
_____________________________________________

Despite the spin given about this information gathering, in my opinion it is sending out quite alot of information, at least more than I will knowingly permit. There is no good reason to use a program which is designed to serve ads. These kinds of programs are only effective if the ads are tailored to the individual user, and that can only be accomplished by extracting information about your surfing habits. This extraction is spying.

I imagine that Adsubtract Pro is a good program, because it is licensed to them by Proxomitron, and from what I understand, it is the same program with a better interface. But Proxo is free, and once you get it setup, you don't use or look at the interface often anyway. The only signal sent out by Proxo is an updater, which can be shutoff manually.

Prince_Serendip
June 23rd, 2002, 02:38 AM
I like the Naviscope program. All the e-commerce stuff is wasted on me. I do not shop on line except via my bank. I do not use credit cards. So, if they want to track my reading habits they may get a very good education. It blocks most ads, which I like and the referrer. You do encounter these sorts of things in the big wide world. You weigh your options, decide what you are going to trade off and you do your best. There's no perfect way. Yeah, I miss details now and then. I'm glad you commented here because it will give more information to the next person reading these postings, for their decisions and needs. (I do know how to stimulate discussion and I try to be fair.) Thanks! ;)

Spartan Software Hunter
June 23rd, 2002, 07:22 AM
I came here looking for similar software. I like the site for AdSubtract PRO and have downloaded the trial. As for Naviscope, I wouldn't touch it. Prince_Serendip said -{ Quote: "And it does not use a proxy." }-
You're right. It IS a proxy! I went to their website and it says clear as a bell in the FAQ # 2...
How does Naviscope work?
Naviscope is an HTTP proxy. When you use Naviscope, your browser sends requests to Naviscope rather than to "the Internet". Naviscope in turn fetches the requested document from the Internet and sends it to the browser. From this position, Naviscope can parse, modify, and generate HTML which in turn enables us to develop prefetching technologies, ad blocking technologies, etc.

I also tried popup cop and didn't care for it. Ad Subtract PRO it might be even at $30.00.

spy1
June 23rd, 2002, 08:02 AM
Whether one trusts the Naviscope program or not is a personal decision - I did.

Since I never used any of the ad features (no preferences put into any of the 'offers), I never had a problem with what it did as far as the little ping was concerned.

You can call their explanation 'spin' if you want to, but until someone provides direct proof that there's more going on with the ping than what they say (and notice I said 'proof', not 'paranoia' ) by monitoring the transmissions with a sniffer and totally and correctly deciphering the results, then I'll continue to accept their explanation at face value.

That's just me though. Pete

Pieter_Arntz
June 23rd, 2002, 01:42 PM
Since I´m a firm believer in specialised programs I use Cookie Pal ( http://www.kburra.com/cpal.html ) and PopUp Ad Filter
( http://www.meaya.com/ ).

Regards,

Pieter

Prince_Serendip
June 23rd, 2002, 08:17 PM
:) Thanks Pete! I was talking about a different kind of proxy. That's okay. Like Pete, I do not use the shopping stuff and did not put anything into the offers. Caveat emptor, especially when it's freeware! Knowledge is powerless without experience. spy1 has both.

What programs we like definitely are personal decisions. I've used Cookie Pal, and my OS "spit it out!" I check all my add-on programs with Adaware, SpybotS&D, Trojan Remover/TDS3, Norton AV, etc. I do well. Wilders and the people here have helped me immeasureably with my system security. That's what's important! ;)