Could someone give me an example of a "sandbox"?

[spookn]

Could someone give me an example of a "sandbox"? I am not familure with the term though can guess at what it does.
thanks
B

[Ilya Rabinovich]

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Please, read this:
http://wiki.castlecops.com/HIPS_FAQ
http://wiki.castlecops.com/Different_classes_of_security_software

[LUSHER]

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http://wiki.castlecops.com/HIPS_FAQ
http://wiki.castlecops.com/Different_classes_of_security_software" }-

Seriously, people should really read the links before citing them.

[Joliet Jake]

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Both mention sandboxing further down in each piece.

[Riverrun]

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thanks
B" }-

A Sandbox is an application that allows you to run other programs in a safer environment. Sandboxes can serve to isolate your browser, for example, in an hermetically sealed (one hopes :-\ ) domain so that any malware you encounter stays within the box and is disposed of when the box is emptied thus protecting your computer from infection and making surfing a whole lot safer, as I'm sure you'll appreciate.

I'm speaking here, by the way, about the manner in which my favourite sandbox operates that is the eponymous SandboxIE. Other similar programs may operate in slightly different ways.

[ErikAlbert]

Parents do the same thing with their kids, they put them in a sandbox, because they can't do much harm there. ;)
Put the application in a sandbox and everything what comes in, stays in the sandbox, until you decide to keep it or not.
The only problem you still have is "What is good and what is bad in the sandbox ?"

[Hermescomputers]

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thanks
B" }-

Hello Spookn,

If you find this daunting perhaps you would benefit from reading an article I wrote for my web site: Cyber Self Defense (http://www.hermes-computers.ca/index.php?pid=35) (Yes it talks about sandboxes).

[trjam]

good read and agree.

[Hermescomputers]

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I'm glad you enjoyed it! :)

[Ilya Rabinovich]

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One error here- SBIE is not free, it is a nag-screen shareware.

[Hermescomputers]

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Hello Ilya,

Ouch! yes, that is expensive, wait 4 seconds then click to save $25.00 :)
I wish more users would use this tool by the way... Probably one of the most useful I have ever encountered as it gives a choice over many things otherwise not possible...

I will correct this A.S.A.P. and thank you for pointing this error to me! ;)

Note: Site is now corrected with "new" and improved info!

[LUSHER]

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You think? Those links are crap, the guy who wrote stuff on those links is clearly clueless, and anyone who claims to be a professional and cites those pages either didn't borther to read them properly or is just too lazy to find a proper reference.

[Peter2150]

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I haven't seen the new nag screen, but $25 to protect all your computers is a bargain that's tough to beat.

[trjam]

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Actually it cant be beat.;)

[Ilya Rabinovich]

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Ouch! yes, that is expensive, wait 4 seconds then click to save $25.00 :)" }-
Yes, I understand and know that, but I just wished that everything would be correct from the point of view of terminology.

[GES/POR]

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If i remember correctly dw is free but you can pay for it. Right Rabinovich?

[solcroft]

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Not legally, no.

[GES/POR]

When i used it sometime ago i thought when the trial ended the product would continue to function but with limitations.

[Ilya Rabinovich]

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Wrong. DW is a traditional 30-days trial shareware.

[Ilya Rabinovich]

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No. When trial ended- game over. It is right in case you already bought a license and it is expired- yes, this case your latest installed version will be functioning, but no updates are available.

[solcroft]

Ilya,

Given the popularity of free sandboxes these days, will you ever consider making a reduced-features, free version of DefenseWall?

Thanks.

[Ilya Rabinovich]

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No. I already commented it- see my replies at the forum.

[solcroft]

I already have; though I was hoping you'd reconsider.

[Ilya Rabinovich]

Why so? Do you see any benefits for me and for "cutted" version users?

[muf]

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I can! Most users won't try let alone use a piece of security software if it's 'paid for'. They will look for a free alternative, even if it's not as good. They feel 'free is better'. When you offer a free limited edition people will try it, and admittedly many will continue to use the free version and have no intention of upgrading to a fully functional(Pro) version. But, there will be some people who if they are impressed enough will upgrade. The thing to consider with a free version is lots more people will try it and therefore those people will likely recommend it to others and they in turn may try it as well. Bigger audience = more people using it and more likely to see people upgrading(paying). It's not a sure thing, but the concept is there...

muf

[Diver]

A sandbox is a place where you send people who try to drive developers nuts. Developers have enough to do.

[Ilya Rabinovich]

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Yes, I perfectly understand that. But there is one thing here:
1. If I start to cut off security-related staff, it will decrease security level of the users. "Some protection means no protection at all" (C) by me.
2. If I start to cut off some interface-related staff, there will be no reasons to buy Pro version as a free one gives a highest protection level.

Also, I just see at GiveAwayOfTheDay migration results. Well, they are not really impressive at all. The only way I can increase the revenue is to bundle a search engine's toolbar into the package of free version of the product.

[Diver]

The free model works best when the publisher has a bunch of pay only products and the free one is being used as advertising to get people in the door. Comodo is a good example of this.

The reduced features free model is somewhat risky for the publisher for exactly the reasons Ilya explains. I really think its bad form to bug a developer about this. If he makes the wrong guess he can't buy groceries.

Another possible approach is to use the free model to accelerate development, ultimately switching to paid. This is what Jetico did with their firewall. I suspect this might be the case with Threatfire, but time will tell. These companies also have other paid products to live off of.

A handful of programmers have successfully used the free model to build their reputations in order to get jobs related to what they were doing, in some cases selling the project to their new employer. I seem to recall this was the story on DVD Shrink.