GeSWall or Sandboxie

[Long View]

when I last tried sandboxie I found the slight delay on initial launch a bit irritating and didn't get to grips with how I would save cookie and script ( no script changes). the I was told that GeSWall was a good program.

As I hope to play with both over the week-end -any thoughts as to the pros and cons of these 2 ?

[lucas1985]

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GeSWall F.A.Q. (http://www.gentlesecurity.com/docs/geswallfaq01.html#q4)
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Q: What is the difference between GesWall and sandbox products?
A: GeSWall is not a sandbox. Perhaps the best sandbox you can afford is a separate machine or VmWare/VirtualPC, the rest is by definition incomplete solutions and will always have some flaws. Virtualization/sandboxing solutions create strictly separated environments. The less links between these envelopments and the rest of the system then better a sandbox is. That is a reason for usability problems. It is OK to run a browser there, but you would be reluctant to use e-mail client within a sandbox. Instead of breaking the links, GeSWall tracks an untrusted application data-flow: files, registry, etc. For example, GeSWall does not prevent a new file to be created by a browser, but it tracks out files created by isolated applications and isolates (restricts) an application that uses those file." }-
Sandboxie's approach may be easier to grasp and manage, GeSWall provides better flexibility and it's very very light (no file redirection)

[Long View]

Just spent a few hours trying out Geswall, and DefenseWall. Nothing scientific but I really hated Defensewall - not at all intuative from my point of view - offering far too many choices. Even the paid for Geswall does too much ( I have no need for e-mail protection).
So for a while at least Geswall it is. Only issue/concern is how to update CS lite and Noscripts ? looks like I will have to come out and go back to sites to update ? Is there a better way ?

[Kees1958]

DefenseWall choices ??? I checked my version and it is the latest 2.09. I mailed Ilya I do not have the choices, where are the choices, give me some choices please. I am not the only one not having pop-ups and lacking choices, see: http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=196491 Please provide me with the same release you gave Longview.

Waiting for a DW version with many choices and pop-ups. :P

[starfish_001]

-{ Quote: "Just spent a few hours trying out Geswall, and DefenseWall. Nothing scientific but I really hated Defensewall - not at all intuative from my point of view - offering far too many choices. " }-


I'm also confused DW is probably the simpler of the 2. But either provide very simple to use yet effective protection

[Long View]

poor choice of words on my part. Just lack of familiarity probably. example
of choices - run as untrusted - add to untrusted - run as trusted - add to secured - add to defense excludes.

main problem is not running either program for surfing but figuring out how to allow changes - like a new add on for FF.

need to play some more.

[trjam]

I have to vote for Sandboxie. Proven track record, great support and very high level of protection.

[EASTER]

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Everyone loves new in security protection, i am certainly no exception. I tried GESwall before and liked the concept, it was stable also which is #1 priority for me and others, but SandboxIE IMO so far leads the way in total coverage and has custom configurable features which expand it's ability.

[Ilya Rabinovich]

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I believe, you mean Windows Explorer context menu items?

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main problem is not running either program for surfing but figuring out how to allow changes - like a new add on for FF." }-
All is simple- run FF as trusted, apply new add-on, terminate FF and run it trusted one more time to apply the changes. Then close and run as usual. Just read help file- it is all there. Or, maybe, you want to say that Chachazz did her job on purpose?

[Long View]

-{ Quote: " Just read help file- it is all there. Or, maybe, you want to say that Chachazz did her job on purpose?" }-

Thanks - As I said my fault for not being familiar with either product.
Don't understand what you mean by Chachazz did her job on purpose.

[Ilya Rabinovich]

-{ Quote: "Don't understand what you mean by Chachazz did her job on purpose." }-
I meant that the help file for the 2.xx versions is made by her and I don't want it would be a waste of her time. Please, read help file, it is made for you with love!

[Long View]

Thanks - again I apologize - if I decide to try DF again I will be sure to read the help file with love