F-Secure Internet Security performance impact

[Bunkhouse Buck]

What is your experience with the performance impact of F-Secure 2008 Internet Security on your machine?

[C.S.J]

fine, no real slowdowns during general usage. (once its loaded)

slight delay at bootup/shutdown, however 2008 is better at this than 2007.

realtime performance is excellent,deepguard technology is fantastic.

spam detection is poor.

full system scan is only slightly faster than drweb for my machine, maybe 2-3 minutes faster, so it would be labelled as slow.

great software though :thumb:

[Bunkhouse Buck]

-{ Quote: "fine, no real slowdowns during general usage. (once its loaded)

slight delay at bootup/shutdown, however 2008 is better at this than 2007.

realtime performance is excellent,deepguard technology is fantastic.

spam detection is poor.

full system scan is only slightly faster than drweb for my machine, maybe 2-3 minutes faster, so it would be labelled as slow.

great software though :thumb:" }-

Thank you for the analysis.

[tiagozt]

-{ Quote: "fine, no real slowdowns during general usage. (once its loaded)

slight delay at bootup/shutdown, however 2008 is better at this than 2007.

realtime performance is excellent,deepguard technology is fantastic.

spam detection is poor.

full system scan is only slightly faster than drweb for my machine, maybe 2-3 minutes faster, so it would be labelled as slow.

great software though :thumb:" }-

I agree and enfatize that have a big difference from previous versions to 2008 (lighter).

[larryb52]

the same, in fact lighter than most performance wise & boot is quicker than 07, I like the firewall & feel protected...

[computer geek]

-{ Quote: "What is your experience with the performance impact of F-Secure 2008 Internet Security on your machine?" }-
massively slow!

[starfish_001]

-{ Quote: "massively slow!" }-
Much slower than Nod or KAV...... but usable

[Bunkhouse Buck]

I just completed my test and it slowed my machine significantly. No need for it with much better solutions out there.

[C.S.J]

-{ Quote: "I just completed my test and it slowed my machine significantly. No need for it with much better solutions out there." }-
hmm, how did it slow your machine down exactly?

[trjam]

the AV was not slow to me. And, with DeepGuard is very protective of your computer.

[midway40]

I thought about trying FSIS '08 out because I liked the '06-'07 versions (except the Vista '07 version) but even if I did and liked it I couldn't afford the price they are asking for it now.

[Unless Chris wants to sell one of his licenses ;D ]

[C.S.J]

-{ Quote: "I thought about trying FSIS '08 out because I liked the '06-'07 versions (except the Vista '07 version) but even if I did and liked it I couldn't afford the price they are asking for it now.

[Unless Chris wants to sell one of his licenses ;D ]" }-
lol maybe, how much do you wanna pay? :)

[midway40]

You could be getting a deal with the US dollar being low right now. ;D Heck we have Canucks coming over the border taking advantage of it during Christmas. There were reports of them buying new clothes, putting them on and leaving their old clothes in parking lots so they don't have to report their new duds at the border, lol.

I was kidding of course. I think I will stay with the big N for the time being :)

[C.S.J]

lol no problem ;)

im always open to offers via PM if you ever change your mind, i mean i do have many year licences now, small profit but its better than nothing :)

[midway40]

Ok, I will keep that in mind ;D

I can't get over the big price hike they did. It wasn't too long ago they were selling it at $39.95 (or was it 49.95) discounted from $79.95 on that MS Customer Special Offer site. Now it is $70.47 discounted from $117.45? :blink:

[trjam]

you can still get the AV for 3 computers for 1 year for $18.00. The suite is about $42.00. Personally I think the AV is just as good as it has its on HIPS included.

here (http://www.f-secure.com/estore/in/)

[midway40]

I thought that it was reported on another thread that this deal was "closed". If I were to get FS again it would be just the AV as I don't have use for the extra stuff. I would have to get a separate firewall though and that is why I like NIS better as you have a choice of having these "extras" or not. FSIS only gives you the option of not installing parental control if I remember right.

[trjam]

It is still good.;)

[midway40]

That's ok. I will stick with the intersecting circles thingy in my avatar, lol.

Besides, NIS matches my desktop ;D

My Desktop (http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/8895/nisdesktopyf7.png)

[Bunkhouse Buck]

-{ Quote: "hmm, how did it slow your machine down exactly?" }-


Processes were slower, scans took forever compared to Eset, Norton, or Avira, and GUI took forever to come come up. Other than that, it worked great.

[computer geek]

-{ Quote: "Processes were slower, scans took forever compared to Eset, Norton, or Avira, and GUI took forever to come come up. Other than that, it worked great." }-
everything you said + reactions were so slow - scans were slower than avira.

[Bunkhouse Buck]

-{ Quote: "everything you said + reactions were so slow - scans were slower than avira." }-

Reactions is right. It reminded me of an old IBM box using a slow processor. I have found Avira scans to be very fast-but Nod32 is the fastest on my machines without question.

[C.S.J]

the question should be, why are those scans soo fast? :blink:

also, your main argument is this, but how is this 'performance impact?'

[Bunkhouse Buck]

-{ Quote: "the question should be, why are those scans soo fast? :blink:

also, your main argument is this, but how is this 'performance impact?'" }-

I don't grant your premise. The real question is why are some scans so slow? And it does not follow that they are more efficacious in catching malware if they are slower, as it does not follow that faster engines are "better." My point is that F-Secure (and you can add Dr. Web to that) are slow compared to Eset, Norton, and Avira. That is irrefutable.

I would rather not wait four to five hours for a scan to be completed when I can see it completed in less than two hours even with the slowest of the three I mentioned. Performance impact is that I saw a general slow down in virtually every aspect of the operating system.

[C.S.J]

-{ Quote: "I don't grant your premise. The real question is why are some scans so slow? And it does not follow that they are more efficacious in catching malware if they are slower, as it does not follow that faster engines are "better." My point is that F-Secure (and you can add Dr. Web to that) are slow compared to Eset, Norton, and Avira. That is irrefutable.

I would rather not wait four to five hours for a scan to be completed when I can see it completed in less than two hours even with the slowest of the three I mentioned. Performance impact is that I saw a general slow down in virtually every aspect of the operating system." }-
its the difference between a deep scan and not.

why do most/ if not all the fast scanners have poor removal, because if infected... they cant search deep enough for the threat.

so i choose the latter, choosing to wait for a deeper scan to finish, than risk infection.

drweb can be tweaked to do a similar thing, with a full system scan taking only 25% of the time it usually takes on max settings.

[midway40]

When I used FSIS the only concern I had was with the long boot up times and the email scanning times. AV scanning time didn't (and doesn't) matter to me since I have always set up scans in the early morning hours anyway.

It is true FSIS is a little heavy but considering the multiple scanning engines involved it wasn't as bad as expected.

[Bunkhouse Buck]

-{ Quote: "its the difference between a deep scan and not.

why do most/ if not all the fast scanners have poor removal, because if infected... they cant search deep enough for the threat.

so i choose the latter, choosing to wait for a deeper scan to finish, than risk infection.

drweb can be tweaked to do a similar thing, with a full system scan taking only 25% of the time it usually takes on max settings." }-

You may be right about removal- and maybe not. However, it is a secondary concern to me, as it is more rational to avoid the infection to begin with (i.e., better heuristics). I'll take the better prevention and fast scanning of Nod32 or Avira over poorer prevention and slower scanning (Dr. Web).

[C.S.J]

-{ Quote: "You may be right about removal- and maybe not. However, it is a secondary concern to me, as it is more rational to avoid the infection to begin with (i.e., better heuristics). I'll take the better prevention and fast scanning of Nod32 or Avira over poorer prevention and slower scanning (Dr. Web)." }-
its a commen fact all will leak malware, so what then?

sure, you cant:

remove if you cant detect,

but, isnt that the same as:

detect without removal

but if i speak about my own experiences, then there are arguments against both, i understand this, yet, if you search the forums/message boards all over the internet, you see infected computers using Norton/Nod32/Avira/Mcafee etc, but im yet to see this from Drweb, and ive personally never been infected while using drweb, but at least i have reassurance that if that day arrives in the future, i know i can remove it

(without relying on other vendors scanners to get me out of the trouble.)

if Drweb is sooo poor at detection, why dont you see infected computers, and why is drwebs cureit used soooo much to cure other computers?

also, if drweb is a FP-Machine, why have i recieved none? (only during betas have i ever recieved an FP)

people look into tests with such conviction, but i prefer my tried and tested method.

i know there are many people on here, who look at my AV and think, WTF!

but my experiences speak for themselfs, and this is all that really matters to me, as ive tried/owned many AV's in the past/present.

do Russians Ministry Defense still licence Drweb, surely its not as bad as a few people say. ;)

[RobZee]

-{ Quote: "you can still get the AV for 3 computers for 1 year for $18.00. The suite is about $42.00. Personally I think the AV is just as good as it has its on HIPS included.

here (http://www.f-secure.com/estore/in/)" }-

Current quoted price on that site is US$ 65.90??

[C.S.J]

-{ Quote: "Current quoted price on that site is US$ 65.90??" }-
according to the link given,

AV 3 PC - $43

which is EXACTLY the same price as the Suite for 3 PCs. :wacko:

[trjam]

-{ Quote: "Current quoted price on that site is US$ 65.90??" }-
no it isnt. You buy from their with the currency being India rupees and if you convert those prices to dollars you get what I posted. Or you could just buy my signature and not use any other security product. But that is another story.

[C.S.J]

-{ Quote: "no it isnt. You buy from their with the currency being India rupees and if you convert those prices to dollars you get what I posted. Or you could just buy my signature and not use any other security product. But that is another story." }-
jeff, i think they have caught onto this a long time ago.

my post above yours IS the price using india rupees.

[trjam]

no it isnt. The AV is 700 rupees that comes out to $17.92. I just did it and it converted out. It shows 700,00. you forget the comma the last 2 zeros when converting. I just got my credit card statement and it shows the price I am saying.

[trjam]

F-Secure Anti-Virus 2008

F-Secure Anti-Virus 2008 provides the best protection for your PC against viruses...

Read more

12 month protection for up-to 3 computers Price: 700,00 INR

[C.S.J]

-{ Quote: "F-Secure Anti-Virus 2008

F-Secure Anti-Virus 2008 provides the best protection for your PC against viruses...

Read more

12 month protection for up-to 3 computers Price: 700,00 INR" }-
700,00 INR is for 1pc.

12 month protection for up-to 3 computers Price: 1700,00 INR

[trjam]

ok, let me go slow. the one on the bottom is the AV for 3 computers, the one at the top is the suite for one computer. Alot higher in price, you want to choose the one on the bottom, the AV which is just as good as the suite. :blink: :wacko:

[trjam]

https://store.f-secure.com/cgi-bin/cart/ml=EN/curr=INR?ID=FSAV2008B

[C.S.J]

-{ Quote: "ok, let me go slow. the one on the bottom is the AV for 3 computers, the one at the top is the suite for one computer. Alot higher in price, you want to choose the one on the bottom, the AV which is just as good as the suite. :blink: :wacko:" }-
yes i do see it, and i know what you mean.

but look here:

http://www.f-secure.com/estore/in/fsav2008.html

[Bunkhouse Buck]

-{ Quote: "its a commen fact all will leak malware, so what then?" }-I have never had malware on 76 computers since the IBM 8088 running 16 hours a day. If I have malware that affects anything I don't want, I would use Acronis to restore it to it's pre-infection state. If that fails, we use two other backup programs as well. Never had a problem, and if we do, we are prepared.

[trjam]

that is why you use this link.

https://store.f-secure.com/cgi-bin/cart/ml=EN/curr=INR?ID=FSAV2008B

it works

[C.S.J]

-{ Quote: "I have never had malware on 76 computers since the IBM 8088 running 16 hours a day. If I have malware that affects anything I don't want, I would use Acronis to restore it to it's pre-infection state. If that fails, we use two other backup programs as well. Never had a problem, and if we do, we are prepared." }-
sure you could just use acronis to restore, but acronis can not restore you your personal/financial details.

you can get an AV for free, i dont see why the risk should be taken for other options.

[Bunkhouse Buck]

You are wrong. Acronis makes an image (exact replica) of hard drive. All is restored.

[C.S.J]

-{ Quote: "sure you could just use acronis to restore, but acronis can not restore you your personal/financial details.

You are wrong. Acronis makes an image (exact replica) of hard drive. All is restored." }-
you cant restore stolen personal/financial details. ::)

[Firecat]

Just to clear things up, the 700 Indian rupees is for the 3-user F-Secure AV license. The 1700 INR option for the 3 PC license is a mistake, a leftover from the Hong Kong online store. Note that you are charged in HKD and a higher price when you choose that option.

Secondly, the 1700 rupees for the 1-year license for Internet Security is also a 3-user license. The 1-user license text is again a mistake.

[larryb52]

I just want to know what Shadowdefender is ;-)

[trjam]

So this thread doesnt go off topic, go
here (http://www.shadowdefender.com/)

[larryb52]

thanks sorry...

[Bubba]

Just a reminder of the title of the thread and the topic for discussion....

F-Secure Internet Security performance impact

Some ot is best handled via private message.

Thanks,
Bubba