The Best Disk Cleaner

[DVD+R]

Tired of using Disk Cleaners that just dont seem to remove all that Junk? Then try Sweepi :lurking: An Excellent Disk Cleaner from those most excellent Swiss People and their Product Sweepi ;D 8)

http://www.yooapps.ch/?=&l=E&

[Huupi]

thanks, just give it a whirl , something for advanced users,mark so many files as superfluous,also find all the temp. files that CCleaner and ATFcleaner just ignored ,so whats the deal for an average user with the danger screwing up the system,w.o.w. you have to know quite a lot about Windows in using this thingy.
IMO in the right hands it will be a tool that will beat the others out there in terms of thoroughness of cleaning your disk.

[Hairy Coo]

Threw caution to the wind and let it have its head(with a few exceptions)

It deleted 428MB :-\

So far everything is working-hope it knows what its doing,as I cant see anyway to check the actual entries prior to deletion. ???

The safeguard is that the deletions can be sent to the recycle bin ,for restore if necessary.

[sweater]

I tried the others, but for now I just decided to use only one...and only one registry cleaner, so just in case something wrong happens to my pc then I can easily know the "suspect". I just trust Registry Mechanic, it has features that automatically makes system restore point before it cleans up, so this makes it safe than others...besides I think their latest version is more safer to use now than before, I mean, it just becomes more and more careful of deleting things. ;D

[ErikAlbert]

I use an archive to clean my system partition : fast, complete and safe without my mistakes. :)

[Huupi]

-{ Quote: "I use an archive to clean my system partition : fast, complete and safe without my mistakes. :)" }-

just for the fun of it,try to scan your beloved pristine archives with Sweepy,see the results and post back !!

[ErikAlbert]

-{ Quote: "just for the fun of it,try to scan your beloved pristine archives with Sweepy,see the results and post back !!" }-
Had too many installing problems, mainly registries and ended up with a corrupted installation, that didn't work. FDISR cleaned the mess. :)

[twl845]

-{ Quote: "I tried the others, but for now I just decided to use only one...and only one registry cleaner, so just in case something wrong happens to my pc then I can easily know the "suspect". I just trust Registry Mechanic, it has features that automatically makes system restore point before it cleans up, so this makes it safe than others...besides I think their latest version is more safer to use now than before, I mean, it just becomes more and more careful of deleting things. ;D" }-
Note. PC Tools Registry Mechanic, (if we're both talking about the same app) will automatically renew your annual registration without asking you, unless you were sharp enough to notice a radio button on their purchase link telling you to uncheck the radio button if you DON'T want automatic annual re- registering. I didn't see it, and a year later got a e-mail receipt for another year registration charged to my Visa card. I had to navigate their support pages until I found a page where I could send a firm letter telling them not to renew. I got an acknowledgement a few days later giving my card credit. Cute eh?:o

[Perman]

Hi,

The best one ? IMO, it is still in the incubator at somewhere.

Reliable and better ones ? plenty. But use them with extreme caution as do with registry cleaners. I have found these worth exploring:

East Tec Eraser, Anti Tracks, R-Wipe and Window Washer (all referred to recent versions).

Take care.

[Huupi]

-{ Quote: "Hi,

The best one ? IMO, it is still in the incubator at somewhere.

Reliable and better ones ? plenty. But use them with extreme caution as do with registry cleaners. I have found these worth exploring:

East Tec Eraser, Anti Tracks, R-Wipe and Window Washer (all referred to recent versions).

Take care." }-

IMO best way to stay clean is always to update [revert back] from an archive untouched from the time of its creation,such as Erik uses FDISR.

This is also a special case where there is a personal need to keep his "worksnapshot " unchanged over time.

[ErikAlbert]

-{ Quote: "IMO best way to stay clean is always to update [revert back] from an archive untouched from the time of its creation,such as Erik uses FDISR.

This is also a special case where there is a personal need to keep his "worksnapshot " unchanged over time." }-
You understand me very well, that is exactly the reason, why I use an archive = fresh installed and unused system partition, nothing beats that and a very safe cleaning as well.

[Perman]

Hi,

Archive again ?

Have you guys ever updated your archive ? if yes, do you use internet browser to surf? and d/l data/programs ? Do you in this process pick up temp files, tracking cookies etc? and then how do you clean these temp stuff ?

Using previous archive for this purpose again ? tell me how.

FD-ISR is an excellent prog, I used it for a long time until that miserable moment. I know for sure it is NOT an universal app for any occasions.

Disk cleaner is NOT a mighty app, by the same token, but it has its value to stay around.

Take care.

[ErikAlbert]

-{ Quote: "
Have you guys ever updated your archive ? if yes, do you use internet browser to surf? and d/l data/programs ? Do you in this process pick up temp files, tracking cookies etc? and then how do you clean these temp stuff ?
Using previous archive for this purpose again ? tell me how.
" }-
I don't use archives like you do and that makes the difference.

[Huupi]

-{ Quote: "Hi,

Archive again ?

Have you guys ever updated your archive ? if yes, do you use internet browser to surf? and d/l data/programs ? Do you in this process pick up temp files, tracking cookies etc? and then how do you clean these temp stuff ?

Using previous archive for this purpose again ? tell me how.

FD-ISR is an excellent prog, I used it for a long time until that miserable moment. I know for sure it is NOT an universal app for any occasions.

Disk cleaner is NOT a mighty app, by the same token, but it has its value to stay around.

Take care." }-

if the initial archive is already compromised at the moment it is created,then thats the end of the story,but if the clean install is really clean and only the work app. on it,and no internet,and never changed by copy/update from current or other snapshot to archive,then by way of logic because its a one way traffic,the archive stay pristine and would not change one bit.

[Hairy Coo]

As mentioned,I ran Sweepi with most cleaning options enabled and the result was a staggering 428MBs of deletions,which included only a small amount of temp.internet files.

Prior to this,a clean had been made with CC Cleaner.

I was expecting the worst,especially as I had accidentaly emptied the deletions from the Bin .

But the computer is working perfectly!

So Sweepi can be described either as super efficient or aggressive,but it sure works.

There are restore safeguards with this.

Worth trying.

[Long View]

-{ Quote: "IMO best way to stay clean is always to update [revert back] from an archive untouched from the time of its creation,such as Erik uses FDISR.

This is also a special case where there is a personal need to keep his "worksnapshot " unchanged over time." }-


Untouched from the time of its creation ? so no windows updates ? still using Firefox 1.00 etc etc . Even then this presupposes that the original install is clean and not poorly written ? The amount of junk that MS Office installs as dead ends is unbelievable.

No in practical terms I understand what you mean but the only real way to have a clean archive is not to go back to it but to periodically go back to a basic image of windows - which is then patched to date without all the irrelevant patches that have been installed and to then install the "latest" versions of programs to be used. This image will, of course, soon be out of date itself and so the cycle starts again. I know that this can be time consuming but worth it in my view.

[ErikAlbert]

-{ Quote: "Untouched from the time of its creation ? so no windows updates ? still using Firefox 1.00 etc etc . Even then this presupposes that the original install is clean and not poorly written ? The amount of junk that MS Office installs as dead ends is unbelievable.

No in practical terms I understand what you mean but the only real way to have a clean archive is not to go back to it but to periodically go back to a basic image of windows - which is then patched to date without all the irrelevant patches that have been installed and to then install the "latest" versions of programs to be used. This image will, of course, soon be out of date itself and so the cycle starts again. I know that this can be time consuming but worth it in my view." }-
That's not how I do it, but it takes too long to explain it.

[markymoo]

thanks for this. a hardcore junk cleaner. a thumbs up i like it.

[Huupi]

-{ Quote: "Untouched from the time of its creation ? so no windows updates ? still using Firefox 1.00 etc etc . Even then this presupposes that the original install is clean and not poorly written ? The amount of junk that MS Office installs as dead ends is unbelievable.

No in practical terms I understand what you mean but the only real way to have a clean archive is not to go back to it but to periodically go back to a basic image of windows - which is then patched to date without all the irrelevant patches that have been installed and to then install the "latest" versions of programs to be used. This image will, of course, soon be out of date itself and so the cycle starts again. I know that this can be time consuming but worth it in my view." }-

an archive can be a basic windows fresh install to work with,it demands almost nothing on patches,no need for security updates[office or thirth party security],whats left is app. updates once in a while,thats it.Understand your current working snapshot can be a pure basic windows,it has his twin brother as an archive on another location,in this closed loop environment they are real twins,they cannot bear to be parted for a second. note that this works only if you can export your personal data to another part. or another drive.

In the light of garbage piling up,just the updating from this clean archive deleted all this. as this was the initial suggestion done by me, how to get rid the best and complete way,using FDISR in a special way.

[DVD+R]

STOP!! >:( I made this thread for Sweepi :isay: NOT! to discuss FD-ISR and how it archives, post in the FD-ISR thread if you want to discusss it, and just leave this thread for Sweepi >:( ::)

[Hairy Coo]

Its amazing how many threads seem to be side tracked back to FDISR???

[Peter2150]

I agree. No more on FDISR in this thread please.

Pete

[ThunderZ]

Nice find DVD+R. Have been a user of CleanUp for quit come time. Giving Sweepi a shot. So far so good. Thanks :thumb:

[WSFuser]

Sweepi doesnt seem special to me. It cleans certain locations and certain applications. Theres other programs that do the same.

[ThunderZ]

It seems to me there are more places it cleans. Several different tmp locations also the index.dat. Until now I had not run across a cleaner that did this by default, if at all. I used to use a separate .dat cleaner. Not any more. :D

[Arup]

Found 240mb, looks good so far, thanks for the recommendation DVD+R

[Hairy Coo]

Well,until the regular CleanUp button is available,which should give the option of reviewing what is being deleted-think I'll give this a miss.

Cant afford to keep playing Russian Roulette.

Looks like a winning formula,but the slow and clunky operation needs attention.

[WSFuser]

If you start Sweepi in classic mode, it does let you review the items it cleans.

[Hairy Coo]

-{ Quote: "If you start Sweepi in classic mode, it does let you review the items it cleans." }-

I'm in Classic mode and there is an Explorer style list of items to be cleaned,but after this has been done,I cant see any option to approve or otherwise, what Sweepi intends to delete.

Normally this wouldnt be a necessity with a cleaner I am comfortable with,but as Sweepi deletes so much,I would like to check.

[WSFuser]

Besides each category/item is a green check, just uncheck the items you dont want cleaned.

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[Hairy Coo]

What I'm saying is AFTER the cleanup,but BEFORE the delete,I want to check what is going to be deleted.

I might want temp files or whatever, deleted but maybe not all of them

For example-the CC reg cleaner gives this option as do most or many other cleaners.

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In the right hand window,which represents the cleaned items,you can untick entries you dont want deleted.

[L815]

When I ran it for the first time it gave me the option to run classic to be able to see what it deletes before it does. Didn't get a chance to check it out, but may be what you want.

[WSFuser]

How is Sweepi different? It shows you the files too.

Im sorry if I cropped the screenshot too much.

[Hairy Coo]

In my version the Cleanup button is greyed out-doesnt work,even though I've reinstalled etc.

Only QuickClean works.

Apparently,if this was working all would be well.

Are you saying it works for you and gives you the option I'm talking about????

I am running Classic!

[WSFuser]

My cleanup button is not greyed out and I can easily select only the files I want:

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I also checked the Recycle Bin and only the files I deleted are there:

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[Hairy Coo]

OK,Thanks for that, WS Fuser,

I can see it now-I was rushing and not doing the Search Now function,which is the key to it all.

The Expand All function shows all the entries very nicely too

Good one:thumb:

[DVD+R]

Here the info about the Sweepi people 8) I just knew the Swiss were too quiet on the Software front until now :dry: Looks like they are onto something Big! with their products in the future

http://www.yooapps.ch/?c=unternehmen/start&l=E

[ErikAlbert]

-{ Quote: "Here the info about the Sweepi people 8) I just knew the Swiss were too quiet on the Software front until now :dry: Looks like they are onto something Big! with their products in the future

http://www.yooapps.ch/?c=unternehmen/start&l=E" }-
They must be very young, let's hope that attitude doesn't fade away during the years. :)

[boonie]

Well, I just gave it a spin. I used it right after CCleaner, and it found about 11MB that CCleaner missed, mostly Thumbs.db and .bak files, along with some application files that CCleaner didn't include in its cleaning (Acrobat, Photoshop). I like the tree view of the scanned files. It allowed me to easily find the files that I didn't want to delete. I haven't tried the registry cleaning option, but I've never used registry cleaners, just Ntregopt and Pagedefrag.
MRU Blaster still found 23 items after I ran both programs.

[TonyW]

-{ Quote: "IMO best way to stay clean is always to update [revert back] from an archive untouched from the time of its creation,such as Erik uses FDISR." }-Another way is to use a cleanup tool then update your archive/snapshot so you'll always have a fresh and updated system to revert to. Don't forget new software or Windows Updates may be installed in between updates of the archives.

[bryanjoe]

what about Clean Disk Security?

http://www.theabsolute.net/sware/clndisk.html

[DVD+R]

-{ Quote: "what about Clean Disk Security?

http://www.theabsolute.net/sware/clndisk.html" }-


This is also good, but ran it on vista, and it cant clean everything

[mrfargoreed]

Ok, tried Sweepi and I really like it, BUT is it just incredibly slow on my machine? It's taken 15 minutes to empty my recycle bin, which contained one folder of 3.3GB whereas CCleaner is much, much quicker.

[WSFuser]

Maybe Sweepi was doing a secure delete?

[ErikAlbert]

Is there a Best Disk Cleaner with a log file, that reports every object that has been deleted ?
I know that R-Wipe&Clean has a log, but it tells me NOTHING.
Why isn't there a software, that does its job completely. Pffft.

[mrfargoreed]

-{ Quote: "Maybe Sweepi was doing a secure delete?" }-

I think so WSFuser.

I've just realised that Sweepi wipes the files 9 times with the 'Delete and overwrite' setting as opposed to 3, so no wonder it takes longer. I just assumed that it was 3 - my fault :wacko: .

[DVD+R]

So can we asume, I stumbled across an excellent software ;D And everyone sends me beer and chips as a reward :P OH! and Swiss chocolate too :P

[gismo999]

-{ Quote: "So can we asume, I stumbled across an excellent software ;D And everyone sends me beer and chips as a reward :P OH! and Swiss chocolate too :P" }-

Rumor has it BLUE is buying since his big promotion!:P

I like it , it seems to do a good job! But I am still playing with it!

I really wish it would keep a log file :(

[Franklin]

After running Sweepi do a search for any *.bak files.

Do software.bak and or bookmarks.bak still exist?

Another cleanup to play with (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/mrx9000/)

[caspian]

I just tried it and it found 91MB. This was after using R-Wipe, Ccleaner, and Advanced Windows Care. And something interesting happened. I use Winrar to open zips. After the trial period it asks you to buy, but most people just close that little box and continue using it. Since I used sweepi and the other tools, that little box no longer pops up. I guess I am in trial mode again. I am very happy with this product.:D

[Firebytes]

I sent the Sweepi file (Sweepi5.4.00_full_Setup_EN.exe) to VirusTotal and it was flagged by three of the scanners. One flagged it, as it seems to do every file I send there, :wacko: as "Heuristic: Suspicious Self Modifying File", so I don't pay much attention to it's results. The other two results have me a little curious about what they are refering to about Sweepi. Does anyone know what this result means..."No threat detected, but known vulnerabilities exist" or "BlockReason.0"?

[EASTER]

-{ Quote: "I sent the Sweepi file (Sweepi5.4.00_full_Setup_EN.exe) to VirusTotal and it was flagged by three of the scanners. One flagged it, as it seems to do every file I send there, :wacko: as "Heuristic: Suspicious Self Modifying File", so I don't pay much attention to it's results. The other two results have me a little curious about what they are refering to about Sweepi. Does anyone know what this result means..."No threat detected, but known vulnerabilities exist" or "BlockReason.0"?" }-

Interesting alright.

The claim still is as a clean & safe program at least described here. Time: Sun Mar 23 04:55:09 2008


http://www.download3k.com/Antivirus-Report-Sweepi.html

Let us know if anything fishy crops up.

[WSFuser]

Softpedia also claims Sweepi as clean. In addition Secunia doesnt have any vulnerabilities listed for Sweepi.

Lastly a FYI for those who may be wondering: "No threat detected, but known vulnerabilities exist" is from FileAdvisor and "BlockReason.0" is from Webwasher.

[Huupi]

trust me the people at YOO Applications are honest,i got a good feeling alone by how Sweepi do his workings,can't explain.It should be FP.;)

[ratchet]

I've used Sweepi for about two years. It will show that it removed x amount but in reality it's often the total amount it found not removed. Many security apps guard their bak files, they can't be removed but Sweepy will still list them. CCleaner can be easily configured to clean anything Sweepi can. Not saying it's not a good prog just not utopia. NCleaner is just as robust, so if you measure these apps by what they can/try to remove they are all about the same but some being more reckless than others. Just stick with CCleaner!

[acr1965]

I tried Ncleaner about two months ago and I can honestly say that it was one of the very worst products I have ever used. It is an extremely aggressive cleaner and does not uninstall properly. After an attempt at a basic cleaning I had to reinstall Windows and Office. Then Ncleaner would not uninstall. Finally got it off my system using using other programs to do so. Ncleaner is a horrid product. No if's, and's or but's about it.

[Huupi]

-{ Quote: "I've used Sweepi for about two years. It will show that it removed x amount but in reality it's often the total amount it found not removed. Many security apps guard their bak files, they can't be removed but Sweepy will still list them. CCleaner can be easily configured to clean anything Sweepi can. Not saying it's not a good prog just not utopia. NCleaner is just as robust, so if you measure these apps buy what they can/try to remove they are all about the same but some being more reckless than others. Just stick with CCleaner!" }-

What all these cleaners do,they CLEAN,some more ,some less,so whats the point. Any cleaner used one a regular basis,keeps your disk pretty clean. ;)

Have no experience with Ncleaner though.

[ErikAlbert]

Well, I ran Sweepi on my clean system partition, because I use a clean FDISR-archive to clean my actual system partition.
So I wanted to know how much Sweepi cleans more than my clean archive.

Sweepi does indeed clean more, BUT what Sweepi cleans more re-appears after reboot, like .ini-files, .log-files, ...
Sweepi tried to clean Applications, but didn't find anything.
So it doesn't make much difference, if I use Sweepi or not.

The Application Cleanup of Sweepi is very poor, only 3 applications :
- Windows Media Player
- Microsoft Wordpad
- Mozilla Firefox
while my clean archive, cleans ALL applications without exception.

No existing cleaner is able to clean ALL applications, because that is practical impossible, because there are too many softwares in the world.
So my clean archive is the best disk cleaner, because my clean archive is based on a clean, UNUSED system partiton. :)

[Long View]

-{ Quote: "
So my clean archive is the best disk cleaner, because my clean archive is based on a clean, UNUSED system partiton. :)" }-

All the same its amazing how much junk Microsoft leave behind. Even if ONLY installing Xp and updates quite a lot of sliming down is possible. If Office is added vast amounts of unnecessary dead end files remain.

Although Sweepi does not impress some sort of housecleaning is not a bad idea.
The good thing is that with an image it is possible to manually remove much of the uninstall junk. If too much is removed then a system restore or re-install of the relevant program and all is well again.

[ErikAlbert]

-{ Quote: "All the same its amazing how much junk Microsoft leave behind. Even if ONLY installing Xp and updates quite a lot of sliming down is possible. If Office is added vast amounts of unnecessary dead end files remain.
" }-
It's not only Microsoft, that creates junk, most softwares do and in some case it's removed completely or partly by cleaners, but not always.
I didn't investigate every software on my computer, but I did investigate DVD Shrink that creates garbage that isn't cleaned by any of my cleaners. If there is one software, there must be more of them.
I knew about DVD Shrink only after reading my FDISR-logs.

My clean archive contains nothing but unused applications, so these junk files don't exist yet and when my clean archive is compared with my actual/used system partition, all those junk files are automatically removed, even the ones I didn't know about and that counts for all installed applications.

[Ocky]

G-Lock Temp Cleaner. Been using since 2001. (Of course not only
this, but it's stable no nonsense, and wildcards are supported).

http://www.glocksoft.com/temp_cleaner/

[ErikAlbert]

-{ Quote: "G-Lock Temp Cleaner. Been using since 2001. (Of course not only
this, but it's stable no nonsense, and wildcards are supported).

http://www.glocksoft.com/temp_cleaner/" }-
That's good, if you can manipulate the cleaner, but too much work for me to find out, which and where files have to be cleaned.
I don't need to do any research or manual work to clean my system partition, my clean archive knows by itself which and where junk needs to be removed.

[atlantis]

-{ Quote: "G-Lock Temp Cleaner. Been using since 2001. (Of course not only
this, but it's stable no nonsense, and wildcards are supported).

http://www.glocksoft.com/temp_cleaner/" }-

http://www.snapfiles.com/opinions/G-Lock_Temp_Cleaner/G-Lock_Temp_Cleaner.html

[Huupi]

-{ Quote: "I've used Sweepi for about two years. It will show that it removed x amount but in reality it's often the total amount it found not removed. Many security apps guard their bak files, they can't be removed but Sweepy will still list them. CCleaner can be easily configured to clean anything Sweepi can. Not saying it's not a good prog just not utopia. NCleaner is just as robust, so if you measure these apps buy what they can/try to remove they are all about the same but some being more reckless than others. Just stick with CCleaner!" }-

Come now to same conclusion,yes find more then others but does't delete the find .bak files among others Hmmmmm.....

If they are hooked by their app. then how would CCleaner manage these ?

[Long View]

After trying sweepi I found 2 programs that started to install when I tried to use them and a reported error from outlook2007. Restored the image made before installing sweepi and problem solved. I don't know how old this program is but suspect that it needs to develop a little more before becoming a contender ?

[WSFuser]

CCleaner cant just delete by file types (and it has been denied as a feature request).

[Huupi]

Different experience,i let Sweepi delete anything it find,sofar no weird behavior or anything.Problem is it let stuff untouched marked for deletion.

[ratchet]

-{ Quote: "Different experience,i let Sweepi delete anything it find,sofar no weird behavior or anything.Problem is it let stuff untouched marked for deletion." }-
Yes Huupi, that is exactly what I meant. Old EasyCleaner tells you what it couldn't delete and of course CCleaner just tells you what it removed.

[caspian]

Well it picked up a whole bunch of thumbs.db files that were left after I ran a search and delete and ran thumbs.db viewer. And it threw my winrar program back into a trial period. How can Ccleaner be used to accomplish this?

[TonyW]

-{ Quote: "So my clean archive is the best disk cleaner, because my clean archive is based on a clean, UNUSED system partiton. :)" }-
It's only a clean archive until used. In other words, if you update your system with that clean archive, the moment your system is that clean archive, it's no longer 'clean' because of temp files etc. Sure, you can update with the clean archive again and again.

Incidentally, how do you go about updating system files of that clean archive? Do you create a snapshot with that clean archive, update the OS then update the clean archive? If you do that, you'd have to do some cleanup before updating the archive to ensure it's clean.

[TonyW]

-{ Quote: "Well it picked up a whole bunch of thumbs.db files that were left after I ran a search and delete and ran thumbs.db viewer." }-Ccleaner does find thumb files. I've seen it delete thumbs.db files.

[zfactor]

i use ccleaner and jv16powertools. imo jv16 is the best out there registry wise. and it will clean what ccleaner doesnt. i run ccleaner on a average basis and i use jv16 at times i feel its needed..jv16 does everything i can want