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melissa
January 12th, 2004, 11:58 AM
which is the best for trojans kaspersky or dr web ?
subratam
January 12th, 2004, 12:18 PM
hey melissa,
a belated happy new year to ya mate..
if u gimme the two choice... i will go for Kaspersky for the wholesome nature of the antivirus... Dr web is a great and innovative AV too... but sometime it comes with... false positives which may confuse a person..
Q Section
January 12th, 2004, 12:19 PM
Hello melissa and welcome to Wilders Security Forums
Anti-virus programmes are not designed to detect, stop or block trojans. Some anti-virus programmes catch some trojans because they have a database listing in case they should encounter a trojan listed. If a computer catches a trojan and it is not "on the list" in the anti-virus software then the trojan would be missed and not stopped. Trojans are not virii and therefore the mechanism used to catch virii is different than the mechanism to catch trojans. An anti-virus programme's ability to catch trojans depends on their database so for example a polymorphic trojan cannot be caught by an anti-virus program.
May we recommend a good anti-trojan program for you as well? Please look at this program (http://tds.diamondcs.com.au/) from Diamond CS.
Best wishes.
ChrisP
January 12th, 2004, 02:56 PM
{QUOTE-> a polymorphic trojan cannot be caught by an anti-virus program.
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This is not true. Kaspersky detects polymorphic trojans. I believe many other AVs do also.
Chuck57
January 12th, 2004, 03:34 PM
I'll second Kaspersky or any Kaspersky engined antivirus. I'm not familiar with Dr. Web but have heard good things about it. AVK and F-secure are also two that I've read are good with trojans (both Kaspersky engined, I think).
wizard
January 12th, 2004, 03:49 PM
{QUOTE-> quoting: QSection link=board=24;threadid=19416;start=0#msg119029 date=1073927998]
An anti-virus programme's ability to catch trojans depends on their database so for example a polymorphic trojan cannot be caught by an anti-virus program.
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All av software can easily detect polymorphic malware even far better than most at programs. This is because of the nature of viruses. Compared to trojans the "level of polymorphic complexity" is far less than used in most modern viruses.
Overall if you ask me which av software is the best the answer will definitly be Kaspersky but DrWeb is also a good choice. :)
wizard
sir_carew
January 12th, 2004, 03:53 PM
I'm agree with yours, KAV is the best detecting trojans.
Some weeks ago, Eset (They made NOD32) was enhanced their Advanced Heuristic, now is able to proactively detect new trojans, I probed this and really work, 6 TrojansDownloader and clickers detected proactively.
wizard
January 12th, 2004, 04:35 PM
Yepp, the new advanced heuristic feature of NOD32 works quiet well. :)
wizard
Technodrome
January 12th, 2004, 10:58 PM
They both are good choices.
KAV has support for more packers and covers more Trojans. DrWeb has better heuristics and it’s able to detect more new Trojans without using virus signatures.
tECHNODROME
Gavin - DiamondCS
January 12th, 2004, 10:59 PM
Agreed completely with wizard :) KAV does do well against trojans
Q Section
January 12th, 2004, 11:05 PM
Ooops, well AV's can not catch all trojans that anti-trojan programmes can, then. We were wrong about the polymorphic type.
solarpowered candle
January 13th, 2004, 12:09 AM
lol Q. Any bacon n fries with that. :)
illukka
January 13th, 2004, 12:34 AM
{QUOTE-> quoting: QSection link=board=24;threadid=19416;start=0#msg119249 date=1073966701]
well AV's can not catch all trojans that anti-trojan programmes can, then
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can you give an example on that? a trojan KAV does not catch,but your anti trojan does....i know many trojans that nod32 or norton or panda etc do not catch..
can you name a true polymorphic trojan?
AgentX
January 13th, 2004, 01:03 PM
IMO, both KAV and McAfee are good at detection and removal of trojans.
swisscoms
January 13th, 2004, 01:54 PM
IMHO KAV and McAfee are excellent, but I have noticed Pc-Cillin 2004 seems to be catching as many now lately as well. Has anyone else noticed this too?
wizard
January 13th, 2004, 02:43 PM
{QUOTE-> quoting: swisscoms link=board=24;threadid=19416;start=0#msg119406 date=1074020076]
Has anyone else noticed this too?
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Don't think so. They are far behind with their unpacking capabilities compared to other products. Especially when you are talking about trojans you have to make sure that the packing/crypting problem is handled by either a memory scanner (this is what most at programs do) or by an unpacking engine.
wizard
Q Section
January 13th, 2004, 03:01 PM
Right, then. Just after the egg was cleaned off the technician who posted the earlier remark, he looked up and a pie was found hurling its way across the lab and he could not duck in time.
He says he has a message to be left here and that is that some anti-virus programmes do very well at catching Trojans and he does not know which one is best for that.
Cheers
Trans
January 13th, 2004, 03:11 PM
:D :) :D
swisscoms
January 13th, 2004, 03:58 PM
Don't give up Q! signed "M". :D
illukka
January 14th, 2004, 12:29 AM
LOOOOL ;D ;D ;D ;D
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