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kurchatovium
November 24th, 2007, 11:56 PM
I am using a new laptop with Vista and have left the User Account Control option on. So far its not so annoying that I want to turn it off. I have heard its a good way to help stop getting hit by any nasty malware. Anyone have any opinions on this?

lucas1985
November 25th, 2007, 01:27 PM
Keep it enabled :)

AKAJohnDoe
November 25th, 2007, 01:33 PM
If it does not interfere, keep it. FWIW, I disabled it.

attila4000
November 25th, 2007, 03:10 PM
i agree with lucas1985, keep it enabled.

read here for more info:

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/windowsvista/features/details/useraccountcontrol.mspx

kurchatovium
November 25th, 2007, 05:35 PM
Yea I intend to keep it enabled. Answering the UAC panel now and then seems to be well worth the trouble of potentially avoiding some nasty malware.

dalepres
November 27th, 2007, 06:21 PM
Absolutely keep it. It prevents any malware installation from occuring without your express permission.

Vista is, and largely because of UAC, the first Windows operating system where I have let my kids and my grandkids freely use my home office PCs. I have no worries about them installing something without their knowledge and without my knowledge.

Franklin
November 27th, 2007, 07:12 PM
If you are confident in your "other" security apps then turn it off.

It's a pain why it has to keep prompting for the same things to run.If it had a "Remember This Action" then it wouldn't be so bad.

webster
November 27th, 2007, 10:25 PM
-{ Quote: "It's a pain why it has to keep prompting for the same things to run.If it had a "Remember This Action" then it wouldn't be so bad." }-

http://www.tweak-uac.com/

HURST
November 27th, 2007, 11:02 PM
-{ Quote: "Vista is, and largely because of UAC, the first Windows operating system where I have let my kids and my grandkids freely use my home office PCs. I have no worries about them installing something without their knowledge and without my knowledge." }-

How do you prevent that they click "YES" on every prompt? Do they know exactly what happens when UAC jumps?

Kees1958
November 28th, 2007, 02:47 PM
In vista 64 it is really good.

I configured it in this way for my son, see http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=1075022&postcount=1

What you won't get is the annoying LUA pop-ups, because an Admin is elevated silently

What it will give you
a) running IE in protected mode
b) file and registry virtualisation of LUA
c) start ups programs in LUA mode
d) does not elevate installers automotically
e) only elevates programs from the safe directories (C:\Windows and Program Files, Program Files X86)

Keep signed driver requirement on (is not waterproof but at least a integrity check before allowing drivers to load), eneable DEP for all programs and run IE in protected mode. Downloaded programs will have a security restriction (check with properties) when they are downloaded through IE, so they won't install properly. LUA programs are not allowed to install drivers anyway. Also memory access/placings hooks of processes with lower security intergity is not allowed. Try for yourself with some malware test programs.

Although you run in quiet mode, only when you explicitely start programs from an unsafe directory in admin mode it will install, otherwise it will fail to install.

So in this way UAC in quiet mode is as strong as the Defense+ of Comodo
see: http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=1124892&postcount=165
and: http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=1125040&postcount=172

So I would say yes UAC is usefull (as DEP protection) and can be made silent

kurchatovium
November 28th, 2007, 09:54 PM
What is DEP protection? Not sure if I have heard of the term. ;D

Franklin
November 28th, 2007, 11:22 PM
Data Execution Protection which I also turn off.;D

MS Article (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/875352)

kurchatovium
November 29th, 2007, 12:36 AM
Ahhhhh thanks for defining the term and for the link. ;D