Online Armor....is this a joke?

[JimmyD]

So, I removed Comodo firewall so I could install the trial version of Online Armor. I downloaded it, installed it, and now it's asking for a key for the trial version! A key that was never provided anywhere!

Is this someone's idea of a joke? I see others are having the same problem in the Online Armor forums. So, in the meantime, I sit here without a firewall.

Looks like I have to uninstall Online Armor and find something else. Not going anywhere near the clusterf*ck that Comodo 3.x has turned out to be.

If the folks at Online Armor can't even get a trial version set up correctly, I have serious doubt about it's effectiveness. :thumbd:

[SpookyET]

A little bitchy, are not we?
You still have the Windows Firewall. That said, Online Armour can be heavy on resources. I played with it on XP a few weeks ago, and the interface it's abnormally ugly, but it's effective. They should hire a graphic designer, however.

As for Comodo, I've been running it since day one, and no problems whatsoever. But, I installed it on a clean system with no other security software ever installed, and it behaves. I like it.

[JimmyD]

-{ Quote: "A little bitchy, are not we?" }-

We? Do you have a mouse in your pocket? ;D

Thanks for the info about OA's heavy resources. Off it comes!!

I've been using Comodo 2.x for quite awhile with no trouble. This morning it said a new version was available, I wisely chose not to install it, it was version 3. Some others weren't so lucky and basically screwed themselves by attempting the install, so I figured I'd look for something else.

[twl845]

-{ Quote: "So, I removed Comodo firewall so I could install the trial version of Online Armor. I downloaded it, installed it, and now it's asking for a key for the trial version! A key that was never provided anywhere!

Is this someone's idea of a joke? I see others are having the same problem in the Online Armor forums. So, in the meantime, I sit here without a firewall.

Looks like I have to uninstall Online Armor and find something else. Not going anywhere near the clusterf*ck that Comodo 3.x has turned out to be.

If the folks at Online Armor can't even get a trial version set up correctly, I have serious doubt about it's effectiveness. :thumbd:" }-
So what's wrong with CFP V2.4 while we wait for v3 to iron out its bugs. I can't send mail with v3 and I'm waiting for a solution. Thanks for the heads up with On line Armor.

[Old Monk]

-{ Quote: "So, I removed Comodo firewall so I could install the trial version of Online Armor. I downloaded it, installed it, and now it's asking for a key for the trial version! A key that was never provided anywhere!

Is this someone's idea of a joke? I see others are having the same problem in the Online Armor forums. So, in the meantime, I sit here without a firewall.

Looks like I have to uninstall Online Armor and find something else. Not going anywhere near the clusterf*ck that Comodo 3.x has turned out to be.

If the folks at Online Armor can't even get a trial version set up correctly, I have serious doubt about it's effectiveness. :thumbd:" }-

Very much removed from a ''joke'' and is very effective.

Support is second to none and I suggest you register at the forum to benefit from that high class support.

More knowledgable and experienced members here have an active interest and support of OA.

Your post IMHO is not indicative of the community spirit here at Wilders.

I repeat this is a great program either free or paid and a little patience on your part will reap rewards

@twl845

I suggest you test before relying on one posters perhaps jaundiced viewpoint

[JimmyD]

-{ Quote: "So what's wrong with CFP V2.4 while we wait for v3 to iron out its bugs. " }-

Probably nothing. With version 3 out, I didn't think 2.4 would've been supported any longer and who knows how long before version 3 is acceptable. I should've just left well enough alone.

I ended up renewing my subscription for Sunbelt Firewall, which I had used one time in the past. In fact, Sunbelt is running a special (http://www.sunbelt-software.com/Home-Home-Office/Sunbelt-Personal-Firewall/) right now, you can get it for only $9.95. I'll use that for awhile.

[JimmyD]

-{ Quote: "Very much removed from a ''joke'' and is very effective.
" }-
The joke I was referring to is the fact that they offer a trial download which is completely unusable without a key, which isn't provided unless you email them or post in their forum and wait for who knows how long.

It's not like this is a surprise to them. Several people have already posted in their forums about this issue. Instead of fixing it, they simply "PM" them a key when they request it. Pretty ridiculous way to attract customers.

It may very well be an excellent firewall but it's a little difficult to tell if you can't run it. :wacko:

[Antarctica]

-{ Quote: "The joke I was referring to is the fact that they offer a trial download which is completely unusable without a key, which isn't provided unless you email them or post in their forum and wait for who knows how long." }-

When I tried it, the next day I had the key by Email. Which is not so long I
think.:)

[Old Monk]

-{ Quote: "The joke I was referring to is the fact that they offer a trial download which is completely unusable without a key, which isn't provided unless you email them or post in their forum and wait for who knows how long.

It's not like this is a surprise to them. Several people have already posted in their forums about this issue. Instead of fixing it, they simply "PM" them a key when they request it. Pretty ridiculous way to attract customers.

It may very well be an excellent firewall but it's a little difficult to tell if you can't run it. :wacko:" }-

Hi Jimmy

Join the forum and Mike Nash will sort your issue of that I'm sure. Get over this glitch and I'm sure you will enjoy OA

No hard feelings but give it a chance ;)

[JimmyD]

-{ Quote: "Join the forum and Mike Nash will sort your issue of that I'm sure. Get over this glitch and I'm sure you will enjoy OA

No hard feelings but give it a chance ;)" }-

Already PM'd him. Yeah, I am a little bitchy today, my apologies.

[JimmyD]

-{ Quote: "When I tried it, the next day I had the key by Email. Which is not so long I think.:)" }-

That's good to hear but the trial version should not require a key, or at the very least, they should let you know that you need a key before you download it and attempt an install.

[Old Monk]

-{ Quote: "Already PM'd him. Yeah, I am a little bitchy today, my apologies." }-

We all have those days ;D

Good move with the PM and hope you get sorted.

[Escalader]

-{ Quote: "Already PM'd him. Yeah, I am a little bitchy today, my apologies." }-

Hi Jimmy D:

I invite you to look in on the OA learning threads here. They may be of use to you. ;D

Here is the link:

http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=189414

[JimmyD]

-{ Quote: "Hi Jimmy D:

I invite you to look in on the OA learning threads here. They may be of use to you. ;D " }-

Thanks, looks like you've spent a lot of effort with this! :thumb:

[SpookyET]

-{ Quote: "Very much removed from a ''joke'' and is very effective.

Support is second to none and I suggest you register at the forum to benefit from that high class support.

More knowledgable and experienced members here have an active interest and support of OA.

Your post IMHO is not indicative of the community spirit here at Wilders.

I repeat this is a great program either free or paid and a little patience on your part will reap rewards

@twl845

I suggest you test before relying on one posters perhaps jaundiced viewpoint" }-

I totally agree with you, but it does not change what I have said. It needs to trim the fat a bit, and the interface totally blows. They MUST hire a UI designer. The interface is ugly as hell, and the right click in systray has a billion entries. Personally, i preffer applications that blend with the system, no skin. But, the NOD32 v3 GUI is awesome, except the advanced settings.

[Diver]

There is a but in some versions of the installer for OA free that asks for a key. That happened to me the first time I tried it. A subsequent download did not ask for a key.

I don't know what Comodo intends for 2.4, but today there was an update to the safe applications list, probably derived from 3.0.

[JimmyD]

-{ Quote: "Good move with the PM and hope you get sorted." }-

Already got the key from Mike. He's a good guy. I feel bad about venting my frustrations and would edit my previous comments, but since I've been quoted it doesn't matter at this point. ;D

[MikeNash]

Hi Everyone

I have posted a few replies on this - but I suppose one more won't hurt.

First of all, the Trial versions of Online Armor do contain activation keys ( a trial key).

SOMETIMES - and we're not quite sure why yet - OA cannot activate the trial version. Most installs seem to do so no problem, but we do get a couple of people PM or post with issues. Rather than say "wait for the next build" I PM anyone who is affected a key.

I check the forums at Tall Emu when I wake up, throughout the day - and last thing before I go to sleep. The most anyone who is affected by this problem should ever have to wait for a key is 8h or so (assuming an 8h night of sleep).

Most users it should just work fine for.

Anyhow, I'm sorry if people are having problems with activating the trial version and I hope you will have received the key that I sent you (if you posted at our forums, you should already have received it).


Mike

[Hugger]

-{ Quote: "I check the forums at Tall Emu when I wake up, throughout the day - and last thing before I go to sleep.
Mike" }-Last thing I check is definately NOT email.
Perhaps a good therapist could help.
Enjoy.

[MikeNash]

-{ Quote: "I check the forums at Tall Emu when I wake up, throughout the day - and last thing before I go to sleep.


Mike" }-

Last thing I check is definately NOT email.
Perhaps a good therapist could help.
Enjoy." }-

The joys of running a small business ;)

[JimmyD]

-{ Quote: "It needs to trim the fat a bit, and the interface totally blows. They MUST hire a UI designer. The interface is ugly as hell" }-

I have to disagree with you there. Nothing wrong with the interface in my opinion. Very user friendly. I'm currently using only the standard mode, which is good enough for me at this time. If I feel like playing around, I'll check out the advanced mode at a later date.

-{ Quote: "the right click in systray has a billion entries." }-

Funny, I happen to like that feature. Lots of choices available with a simple right click. Makes things easier. One thing is for certain, its probably impossible for a software developer to please EVERYONE. I do like what I see so far.

One thing I'm curious about, I installed the version without the anti-virus but at the bottom of the main screen, it says I "should periodically scan for dangerous programs" which I did. What type of scan is this? If the A/V module isn't installed, what is doing the scanning?

[WSFuser]

OA has a small blacklist of bad programs that it uses. Mike could provide more details.

[ultragunnerdcl]

Online Armor is very good but heavy on system resources. I used to use it. but now I uninstalled it & switch to comodo firewall version38)

[SamSpade]

-{ Quote: "Online Armor is very good but heavy on system resources. I used to use it. but now I uninstalled it & switch to comodo firewall version38)" }-

I have been using OA in a number of iterations and latest builds for about two weeks now, and its RAM usage is about 12 to 15 mb; CPU spikes a bit on execution of new processes, as with all HIPS firewalls, but then shoots right down again very quickly.

Once trained -- and if you use the "learning mode" and "install mode" functions properly -- it is *very* quiet. Unobtrusive, lean, definitely NOT a resource hog by any stretch, in my usage (IBM T60p laptop, 2 Ghz, 2 GB RAM, NOD32, Ffox w/ security add-ons, Tbird, Google desktop). In fact, OA is using about the same in resources as Jetico 1 was, plus OA has a much better HIPS function. Looks like a keeper.


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[SamSpade]

-{ Quote: "

One thing I'm curious about, I installed the version without the anti-virus but at the bottom of the main screen, it says I "should periodically scan for dangerous programs" which I did. What type of scan is this? If the A/V module isn't installed, what is doing the scanning?" }-


Oh, WSFuser already posted about this; yes, OA has a black-list that it checks your installed programs against. It will warn you if you have something not so nice installed. Nice feature. Totally optional.


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[ultragunnerdcl]

-{ Quote: "I have been using OA in a number of iterations and latest builds for about two weeks now, and its RAM usage is about 12 to 15 mb; CPU spikes a bit on execution of new processes, as with all HIPS firewalls, but then shoots right down again very quickly.

Once trained -- and if you use the "learning mode" and "install mode" functions properly -- it is *very* quiet. Unobtrusive, lean, definitely NOT a resource hog by any stretch, in my usage (IBM T60p laptop, 2 Ghz, 2 GB RAM, NOD32, Ffox w/ security add-ons, Tbird, Google desktop). In fact, OA is using about the same in resources as Jetico 1 was, plus OA has a much better HIPS function. Looks like a keeper.


//" }-


IC, These are my reasons why I uninstalled Online Armor & Switched to Comodo Version 3.?

Comodo Firewall(VER.3)=Network Firewall,Cpu Firewall(HIPS), Registry Firewall, File Firewall*puppy*

Online Armor= Network Firewall & Cpu Firewall(HIPS),;D

As you can see there is a big difference here...:)

[twl845]

-{ Quote: "Very much removed from a ''joke'' and is very effective.

Support is second to none and I suggest you register at the forum to benefit from that high class support.

More knowledgable and experienced members here have an active interest and support of OA.

Your post IMHO is not indicative of the community spirit here at Wilders.

I repeat this is a great program either free or paid and a little patience on your part will reap rewards

@twl845

I suggest you test before relying on one posters perhaps jaundiced viewpoint" }-
Hi Old Monk, Have no fear. I've been around too long to make a judgement based on one persons rant. Actually, as I read the subsequent posts OA sounds really good.:)

[Escalader]

-{ Quote: "Online Armor is very good but heavy on system resources. I used to use it. but now I uninstalled it & switch to comodo firewall version38)" }-

Sorry, but do you have any actual facts or numbers showing what exe's consumed what resources for each FW? Peak RAM, CPU %?

It would be good to see a fact based side by side comparison.

I've used both these products.

On my system OA takes less resource than NOD 32.

[ultragunnerdcl]

I was using kaspersky with online armor maybe it conflicted.

[JimmyD]

-{ Quote: "Online Armor is very good but heavy on system resources. " }-

Do you know all the process names for OA in the task manager? I see one called "oaui.exe" and it's only using 6,652k. I don't see anything using excessive memory except for Firefox. It's currently up to 86,864k and I haven't used it that much this morning. I don't know if it has memory issues or not but I've seen it easily double that the longer I have it open. nod32krn.exe is using 25,288k.

I don't see any other obvious Online Armor processes going on so maybe I'm missing something. My system has been running fine, no slow downs, etc.

I'm using the Online Armor version without the a/v module but not the free version.

[gerardwil]

-{ Quote: "I was using kaspersky with online armor maybe it conflicted." }-

You are still not convincing me with "no figures" and "maybe's"

Gerard

[Escalader]

-{ Quote: "Do you know all the process names for OA in the task manager? I see one called "oaui.exe" and it's only using 6,652k. I don't see anything using excessive memory except for Firefox. It's currently up to 86,864k and I haven't used it that much this morning. I don't know if it has memory issues or not but I've seen it easily double that the longer I have it open. nod32krn.exe is using 25,288k.

I don't see any other obvious Online Armor processes going on so maybe I'm missing something. My system has been running fine, no slow downs, etc.

I'm using the Online Armor version without the a/v module but not the free version." }-

Hi JimmyD:

You work with actual data! Good.

FYI, mine is:

oasrv=5704k
oaui=6904

I run OA 2 in advanced with web shield disabled I don't have Kav since Nod32 is my AV.

BTW, your FF seems heavy compared to mine at 53,748k.

[JimmyD]

-{ Quote: "BTW, your FF seems heavy compared to mine at 53,748k." }-

Yeah, I usually keep around 5 tabs open at a time, using FF version 2.0.0.9 and it's now at 93,208K. Not sure what's causing it.

Anyway, don't want to steer the thread off-topic. As I've said earlier, I like what I see with OA so far and if things keep going well, I will be purchasing it. :thumb:

Too bad I can't change the title of this thread. While it may attract more participants, I posted when I was frustrated and no longer feel that way. ;D

[SamSpade]

-{ Quote: "

BTW, your FF seems heavy compared to mine at 53,748k." }-


Ff will vary greatly depending on how many tabs are opened, what's in those tabs, etc. I've had Ff using well over 100,000k, but that was with 25 tabs open!!


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[SamSpade]

-{ Quote: "IC, These are my reasons why I uninstalled Online Armor & Switched to Comodo Version 3.?

Comodo Firewall(VER.3)=Network Firewall,Cpu Firewall(HIPS), Registry Firewall, File Firewall*puppy*

Online Armor= Network Firewall & Cpu Firewall(HIPS),;D

As you can see there is a big difference here...:)" }-

Yes there is a difference. But you said that OA was "heavy on resources", and that has definitely NOT been my experience. From what I hear about CFP 3, it is using well into the 25-40 MB of RAM range, more than twice that of OA.


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[Coolio10]

-{ Quote: "Yes there is a difference. But you said that OA was "heavy on resources", and that has definitely NOT been my experience. From what I hear about CFP 3, it is using well into the 25-40 MB of RAM range, more than twice that of OA.


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Hah, more like half of oa. This is with defence+ and every setting on. And with utorrent running a 3.5gb download. And i am the only one so far with picture proof :D.

[Smokey]

-{ Quote: "I check the forums at Tall Emu when I wake up, throughout the day - and last thing before I go to sleep. The most anyone who is affected by this problem should ever have to wait for a key is 8h or so (assuming an 8h night of sleep).
" }-
Tall Emu service and support is known all over the net for it's customer friendly and very fast response, my high regards for it!:thumb:

BTW: IMO you never sleep, you are almost 24 hrs/day, 7 days/week, 365 days/year present on the OA forum....:o

[Coolio10]

-{ Quote: "Tall Emu service and support is known all over the net for it's customer friendly and very fast response, my high regards for it!:thumb:

BTW: IMO you never sleep, you are almost 24 hrs/day, 7 days/week, 365 days/year present on the OA forum....:o" }-
That is a lot of people that know about oa forums! :D.

[Peter2150]

-{ Quote: "That is a lot of people that know about oa forums! :D." }-

Coolio10

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, but tread litely. That comment could be taken as very sarcastic. So you like Comodo, thats fine, but this same kind of comment could be made in the comodo threads and it isn't appropriate. No more please.

Pete

[CJsDad]

Over on the Comodo forums there is already something about "kicking out all of the OA users"
Not suprised at all by these comments

[Coolio10]

-{ Quote: "Coolio10

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, but tread litely. That comment could be taken as very sarcastic. So you like Comodo, thats fine, but this same kind of comment could be made in the comodo threads and it isn't appropriate. No more please.

Pete" }-
So i can't be sarcastic without it relating to comodo?
Bet if i said the same thing but for comodo forums it wouldn't be sarcastic anymore :shifty: .

[SamSpade]

-{ Quote: "Hah, more like half of oa. This is with defence+ and every setting on. And with utorrent running a 3.5gb download. And i am the only one so far with picture proof :D." }-


Very impressive, but I don't want to get into a wee-wee contest. Different apps appeal to different people for different reasons. I'm sure you can appreciate that.


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[Coolio10]

-{ Quote: "Very impressive, but I don't want to get into a wee-wee contest. Different apps appeal to different people for different reasons. I'm sure you can appreciate that.


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;D 8) ;)

[Peter2150]

-{ Quote: "So i can't be sarcastic without it relating to comodo?
Bet if i said the same thing but for comodo forums it wouldn't be sarcastic anymore :shifty: ." }-

The same would be true for the same kinds of comments made in comodo threads. I am asking you politely....

[Old Monk]

-{ Quote: "Already got the key from Mike. He's a good guy. I feel bad about venting my frustrations and would edit my previous comments, but since I've been quoted it doesn't matter at this point. ;D" }-

Good you got sorted and hope you enjoy.

Very flexible, or if you wish, set and forget mom-friendly app. You can play or sit back and relax ;D

Hope you register at the OA forums where loads of people will be happy to help if problems/questions arise.

[JimmyD]

-{ Quote: "Good you got sorted and hope you enjoy.
" }-
So far, so good.

Mods: Since this thread has served it's purpose (and I don't like the title that I created) feel free to close it down. I'm a happy camper at this point. :thumb:

[Peter2150]

-{ Quote: "So far, so good.

Mods: Since this thread has served it's purpose (and I don't like the title that I created) feel free to close it down. I'm a happy camper at this point. :thumb:" }-

Will do. Thanks JimmyD