defense wall free on GAOTD

[testsoso]

giveawayoftheday.com

[cet]

defense wall is free today on the giveaway of the day

[Sportscubs1272]

I believe this is good for a year, but why no updates?

[cp4eva]

much thanks to Ilya for putting this on GAOTD. My wife and I already own DW; but it's good that more people will be exposed to it.

[OHM]

It seems like noone is interested...
I thought DW is a good software, hehe

[Perman]

Hi,

Nice to know this, thanks.

Some report that its updater is disabled.

I just wonder is this a registered version with lifetime possession and one year update, OR a 30 days full-functional trial ?

[LoneWolf]

-{ Quote: "Hi,

Nice to know this, thanks.

Some report that its updater is disabled.

I just wonder is this a registered version with lifetime possession and one year update, OR a 30 days full-functional trial ?" }-


It's a registered version with lifetime possession, no version upgrades, no offical support. Still a good deal for free. ;D

[rolarocka]

-{ Quote: "I believe this is good for a year, but why no updates?" }-
its for 100 years
11.15.2007 - 11.15.2107 :)
check for updates is disabled though

[Perman]

-{ Quote: "It's a registered version with lifetime possession, no version upgrades, no offical support. Still a good deal for free. ;D" }-
Hi, thanks.

Yes, I joked to developer a long while ago, asking him to make Defense Wall a free offer for a limited time. I think somehow a good arrangement this time around ,has been made between him and GAOTD. Hoping He can repeat this periodically, say every 6 months or so. Perhaps this is the effective alternate to million dollars ad campaign. A damn good way to get it popular. I will certainly try it with DeepFreeze(especially in DF's thawed mode), thank.

[Fuzzfas]

What if you have to format your PC in the meantime? Can you activate it again?

I had some similar trouble with GAOTD programs before. And of course the SSM version that would bug you every 2 seconds after the expiration date...

[Pedro]

Nice, but i got a problem, or i think i do. I get a simple GUI, not like when i trialed it, or in screenshots. I uninstalled SSM even, leaving only Antivir and CFP 2.4 . DEP?

[farmerlee]

-{ Quote: "What if you have to format your PC in the meantime? Can you activate it again?

I had some similar trouble with GAOTD programs before. And of course the SSM version that would bug you every 2 seconds after the expiration date..." }-
Under normal circumstances no. Running the dw installer from giveawayoftheday requires activation which will only work for today.
I tried the free license with the installer from the official defensewall website but that didn't work.
I was able to work around the problem and figure out a simple way to be able to install it in future. However this would probably violate the giveawayoftheday condition which states it must be installed today.

[ErikAlbert]

DefenseWall is ideal for ISR-softwares, because it doesn't need any signature updates. I use it constantly in my frozen snapshot, which is similar to Returnil, DeepFreeze, etc. in frozen mode.
That's why I also use Anti-Executable, together with DW it stops many bad executables.
The frozen mode removes any change on reboot (= boot-to-restore) and AE+DW stops the execution immediately.
It's a pity that boot-to-restore is still too late in theory, but on demand scanners are also too late.

[Fuzzfas]

-{ Quote: "Under normal circumstances no. Running the dw installer from giveawayoftheday requires activation which will only work for today.
I tried the free license with the installer from the official defensewall website but that didn't work.
I was able to work around the problem and figure out a simple way to be able to install it in future. However this would probably violate the giveawayoftheday condition which states it must be installed today." }-

I see. This was what i was afraid of. I wouldn't have anything against installing it today, as long as i could also install it again in the future. In fact, i did click on the key icon and told me it was activated even if i didn't install it.

Well, the way i see it, since it is format-limited, it is not really a giveaway. It's more like a trialware with expiration date the day that you will format. And in my case, i do format once every 3 months, more or less. So, i will stick with Threatfire.

Thank you.

[Ilya Rabinovich]

-{ Quote: "I believe this is good for a year, but why no updates?" }-
Because updates costs money. So, to make a free version for GAOTD for commercial software, you need do it lifetime but no updates or not a lifetime with updates. I just think that "lifetime but no updates" is more honest.

-{ Quote: "Nice, but i got a problem, or i think i do. I get a simple GUI, not like when i trialed it, or in screenshots. I uninstalled SSM even, leaving only Antivir and CFP 2.4 . DEP?" }-
Looks like that there is some problems with ActiveSkin skin engine. Check out it is registered properly.

-{ Quote: "
It's more like a trialware with expiration date the day that you will format." }-
You are wrong here. There is no activation at all.

[ellison64]

Just tried this program ,and i must be honest...im finding it hard to understand even though its supposed to be a set and forget ,and also for beginners :-[
.For example i understand it not trusting my browser firefox ,and its auto added that to non trusted ,but does this mean i have to go through all my other programs that access the net via updater's etc and manually add them to untrusted?.Should ad muncher be untrusted?,.Im getting a headache already.Im sure it is simple for some folks ,but i feel that i have a toy ,and dont know how to work it :(
ellison

[Fuzzfas]

-{ Quote: "

You are wrong here. There is no activation at all." }-

When i clicked on the "key" icon in the GOATD package, it loaded the GOATD page and said more or less "congratulations, activation successful". After that i aborted the installation. But i guess you mean that the .dwu file is enough for registration. Well, in that case, i am glad i didn't throw away the folder yet. :D

Thanks

[MaB69]

-{ Quote: "Just tried this program ,and i must be honest...im finding it hard to understand even though its supposed to be a set and forget ,and also for beginners :-[
.For example i understand it not trusting my browser firefox ,and its auto added that to non trusted ,but does this mean i have to go through all my other programs that access the net via updater's etc and manually add them to untrusted?.Should ad muncher be untrusted?,.Im getting a headache already.Im sure it is simple for some folks ,but i feel that i have a toy ,and dont know how to work it :(
ellison" }-

DW has a built-in database that recognize and automatically untrust progs on your comp. The unrecognized apps can be added manually

MaB

[ellison64]

-{ Quote: "DW has a built-in database that recognize and automatically untrust progs on your comp. The unrecognized apps can be added manually

MaB" }-

Yes i know that ,but thats my dilemma.Im not at all clear on what is the criteria for adding to untrusted...or not to add or what will be the consequences of the choices i make.Ive been reading the help files ,but im still perplexed.
ellison

[Perman]

Hi, Ilya:

Thanks very much for providing an excellent prog without any financial strings at this time. You have shown your good gesture at GAOTD.

I have a crazy idea for you to entertain:
When your next update(let's say version upgrade) is made available, why not offer today's clients hooked by GAOTD's offer, a deep discount, or even two years for one sort of specials. It is very important to keep the momentum generated by today's event and extend it further and farther...

With today's offer, your 30 days trial option may be deeply side swept.

Good luck.

[Ilya Rabinovich]

-{ Quote: "For example i understand it not trusting my browser firefox ,and its auto added that to non trusted ,but does this mean i have to go through all my other programs that access the net via updater's etc and manually add them to untrusted?" }-
Untrusted are the programs that contacts dangerous places of Internet.

-{ Quote: "Should ad muncher be ntrusted?" }-
No, it doesn't contact dangerous parts of the Internet.

[Ilya Rabinovich]

-{ Quote: "I have a crazy idea for you to entertain:" }-
It is not any crazy, it's just a great idea! The only problem here will be how to notify all of them, I had to think about it before. Anyway, thanks for that hint!

[Newby]

Ilya,

Great marketing of Perman, seems to me he earned a regular lisence fee with the updates.

Take care and thanks for the good program. By the way your tone of voice in helping customers is a relief compared to A2, so that is okay also. But maybe because it took so long before the help files of DefenseWall were okay you did not answer by default with RTFM, but actually reacted (fast).

Antivir free, A2 (IDS) Malware paid, DefenseWall paid

8)

[Ilya Rabinovich]

-{ Quote: "Great marketing of Perman, seems to me he earned a regular lisence fee with the updates." }-
I see no problems. :D

[Perman]

Hi,

Massive sampling is a easiest way to gain popularity for any given merchandise. In tangible goods field, due to product's physical form, distribution cost could compound and compile higher and more.

But in intangible product sector (such as electronic /digital software transmission), cost can be kept at very minimal.

In the last very short while, we have witnessed OA free, ZAAS have just done that, and now DefenseWall have jumped onto the wagon.

In my mind, 10 copies sold plus 50 free ones is a much better picture than 10 copies paid and Nada free ones.

Take care.

[Pedro]

-{ Quote: "
Looks like that there is some problems with ActiveSkin skin engine. Check out it is registered properly." }-
Sorry Ilya, as i have no clue what ActiveSkin is. Is it a Windows component, registry entry?
TIA

[aigle]

-{ Quote: "Under normal circumstances no. Running the dw installer from giveawayoftheday requires activation which will only work for today.
I tried the free license with the installer from the official defensewall website but that didn't work.
I was able to work around the problem and figure out a simple way to be able to install it in future. However this would probably violate the giveawayoftheday condition which states it must be installed today." }-
If this is the case,the offer is more than useless then.

[Tarnak]

-{ Quote: "Sorry Ilya, as i have no clue what ActiveSkin is. Is it a Windows component, registry entry?
TIA" }-

This screenshot shows what is installed......The program is terrific BTW.;D

[Ilya Rabinovich]

-{ Quote: "Sorry Ilya, as i have no clue what ActiveSkin is. Is it a Windows component, registry entry?
TIA" }-
No, it is a skin engine I use. Please, check out if you have actskn43.ocx file into your "%windows directory%\system32" folder. If it is here- run "regsvr32 actskn43.ocx" command with your "Start"->"Run" menu entry.

[Pedro]

I tried, and it reported a success. But the GUI is still the same, even after reboot.
This is bugging me. I tried DW before, and had no such problems. Did something change in DW or my system?

[innerpeace]

What a nice offer! I have a question though. If I use DW instead of Sandboxie, would DW's HIPS conflict with Online Armor2 (full version) HIPS? Thanks

[EASTER]

@Ilya

Very grateful for your generosity. As you might already be aware i was present when you very first released it and posted discussions over at Gladiator Security Forums awhile ago back. It's was destined to be a very reliable and dependable security program and many credits to you are well deserved for all those efforts.

So again thanks, EASTER

[Matern]

Hi at all,
What is DW detecting? I run a Test with PC-Security Test 2007 from AvBx (in untrusted Modus), disabelt al my other Security apps, and DW fail the Test complete. Maybe DW is not the safest Place to Test Programms, or is it optimized only for Internet-Programms????

[Kees1958]

Matern,

Hope below explains

What is DefenseWall?

DefenseWall is a policy sandbox. Policy sandboxes help you to deal with the fact that most users run as admins (also a lot of security programs require you to run with admin priviledges). In Vista Microsoft introduced UAC to deal with this (for a large part), but on XP users running as admin basically allow everything on their computer to be changed, including the things you do not want to.

So how does DW deal with this?

It marks a number of programs communicating with the outside world as untrusted. This type of external access is called 'threat gates', because they are the poential source of infections (ergo untrusted). This implies that those programs have limited user rights (and can not mess with your PC). On top of that DW has taken some additional measures to deal with those limitations in daily work and has increased the security on some other parts of the Operating System and files influencing the OS (also without sacrifying daily functionality).

Another nice thing is that programs in untrusted mode which call other processes/programs inherit those security limitations, to prevent malware from breaking out of this limited rights containment box (this explains the classification of this type of programs called sandbox, you can play but not harm yourself). The same thing applies to files created by those untrused programs, they also inherit the limited rights.

Your question
DW does not look for bad guys/malware, but prevents them from changing the vulnerable admin related settings on your PC. All programs and files installed on your PC are only marked untrusted when they are in the list DW recognises as untrusted by default, all others are marked trusted. Please invest some time in reading the help files.

Regards Kees

[Sportscubs1272]

So how do you delete the files in the sandbox? I know Sandboxie you can click one button and presto the files are gone!

So using a program like CCleaner can delete the files w/out any special instructions too?

[Ilya Rabinovich]

-{ Quote: "I tried, and it reported a success. But the GUI is still the same, even after reboot." }-
Strange. Mail me.

[Ilya Rabinovich]

-{ Quote: "So how do you delete the files in the sandbox?" }-
"Sandbox" means "rights restrictions". It is impossible to delete files in the sandbox, it is possible to do this with virtualization container. As DW doesn't have it- there is a "rollback" functionality there. And this process can be done only manually.

[Espresso]

This doesn't appear to work in 2008 Server. It runs but it always shows zero unprotected processes.

[Pedro]

-{ Quote: "Strange. Mail me." }-
Will do. I'll reboot to XP later and contact you.

[Perman]

-{ Quote: ""Sandbox" means "rights restrictions". It is impossible to delete files in the sandbox, it is possible to do this with virtualization container. As DW doesn't have it- there is a "rollback" functionality there. And this process can be done only manually." }-
Hi, Ilya:

Very interesting remarks.

In other words, no files can be deleted in DW's sandbox,. whereas that can be done in DeepFreeze's protected mode(frozen state). But..

I am able to delete emails(web mails) at ISP level while using IE7 in DW's untrusted box. Because of ??

Thanks.

[Ilya Rabinovich]

-{ Quote: "This doesn't appear to work in 2008 Server. It runs but it always shows zero unprotected processes." }-
I haven't tested DW with this OS version. Is your Server version 32- or 64-bit?

[Ilya Rabinovich]

No, you are wrong. File protection is policy-based. Just try to erase any folder or .exe file, for instance.

[Perman]

Hi, Ilya:

Very smart move and a very good news for DW users from GAOTD.

I just noticed Ilya has made a generous offer for DW users who have a lifetime, but no update version. The deeply discount price is very appealing. I will jump onto it later this week. I am referring this offer to DW's forum.

BTW, does that offer have any expiry date ? (I mean when is the deadline user has to act?)/

Thanks.

[Ilya Rabinovich]

Well, I don't know. I believe- yes, I should set up an expiration date. Maybe, three or four monts? What do you think?

[Espresso]

-{ Quote: "I haven't tested DW with this OS version. Is your Server version is 32- or 64-bit?" }-

32bit. Latest CTP released in November.

Service and driver are running, but I get no response from DefenseWall.

[Ilya Rabinovich]

OK, thanks, as soon as I get 2008 Server I'll check out what is wrong there.

[Perman]

-{ Quote: "Well, I don't know. I believe- yes, I should set up an expiration date. Maybe, three or four monts? What do you think?" }-
Hi,

In North Americans' mind, 60 days or 90 days are so-called "mile stone" numbers. And are regarded as a very generous time frame. Just a thought.

[Ilya Rabinovich]

Well, OK, three month (90 days) is set up as an expiration time. As a not "North American", I understand nothing in their minds :)

[Perman]

Hi,

Thanks.
For me to extend it for one year updates, I just pay CAN$ 11.00 , an equivalent to 4 Big MAC, what a steal.

For those who support DW, will likely take a wise action within the first 30 days, to enjoy updated protection. Therefore 90 days is an ample time frame to make a decision. By the same token, for those folks who rather to keep their lifetime-valid copy w/o updates, it is an OK too. Ilya, you have won both ways. Take care.

[Perman]

HI

For those who either missed the golden opportunity d/l DW's GAOTD version,

or like me; lost the app due to image restore/rollback, you may copy my action:

Email Ilya at support [at] softsphere dot com

He will send you one before you know it.

Folks, What a service he has been providing! IMO, Almost second to none. Ilya I :thumb: you.

PS. Users of this version have just bit less than 90 days to convert to full-paid version at deep discount. Another good gesture from him.

[Ilya Rabinovich]

Perman, could you remove the direct e-mail link and obsfucate it anti-spam way?

[Perman]

Hi, Ilya:

I wish I could, because I have been logging on and off, and have lost the privilege to edit my previous post, perhaps Mod can step in to assist us.

I will remember not to quote a direct link next time. Take care.