Avira Antivirus

[chaos16]

just wondering

i was looking at the comparative in the antivirus.

and Avria antivirus has the best detcetion from all other antiviruses.



BTW i am downloading the trial from the premium version and its downloading the workstation?

here is the link is it the right one?

http://www.avira.com/en/downloads/avira_antivir_personaledition_premium.html

[Thug21]

That's not a trial, that's a very limited demo version. Hold on, I'll get the link to a trial.

Edit- This should work: http://www1.avira.com/en/evaluate/chip.php

It's for 3 months too :)

[chaos16]

3 months trial so long :o how come so long lol

[Thug21]

Some kind of special offer for a magazine (called CHIP)

[chaos16]

is this new or always been like this


i noticed not so many ppl in the forum talk about this antivirus

[chaos16]

still makes me go to this link http://www.avira.com/en/downloads/avira_antivir_personaledition_premium.html


and i download the workstation version well that wat it says

[Thug21]

It should actually be PE Premium - regardless of the installer file name.

Tip: As for loading the keyfile, download the HBEDV.key in the email from Avira. During the install when it asks for the key, click browse and go to the location of the HBEDV.key

[farmerlee]

They all seem to have workstation in the file name. Its the letters on the end that distinguishes them.

I've used antivir on and off for a long time, i've alway been impressed with its performance and detection level.

[Arup]

The original CHIP offer was for six months but looks like Avira got overwhelmed after I posted the link here at Wilders. Still they were kind to leave it at 3 months.

[chaos16]

thanks

1 thing does this antivirus have HTTP scan? coz i am using it and i can't find it in guard it only scans files?


is there a Avria program that scans HTTP and works great with the antivirus?

[Mele20]

Yes, you want the Suite as it does have an HTTP scanner and a firewall. Here's a link to a 90 free trial of the Suite.

http://www.avira.com/en/evaluate/vnu.php

[chaos16]

Is the suite a good suite? and to be honest i haven't heard anything good or bad about it?

As it seems ppl choose AVG suite or KIS suite or now Eset suite etc but not Avria Suite?

Is the firewall good compared to Comodo, KIS firewall, etc....

Or does this suite have the engines from Kaspersky latest version?

[Sjoeii]

The suite works pretty ok.
all the suites you are mentioning are pretty good these days. You just have to try for yourself

[chaos16]

Cool thanks

Just wondering the antivirus use the Avria engine and the kaspersky engine?

and there firewall?

[Mele20]

I don't use the Suite because I don't need a software firewall (I use ProcessGuard full version to control what calls out and I am behind a router). So, I'll let others who use it answer. From what I read here, and elsewhere on the net, some people love it while some have problems with the Firewall and/or the http scanner. Like ANY AV program, you need to test it on YOUR setup to see if it works well for you and if you like it. That's why there are free trials. So, I'd say get it and see what you think.

[bigc73542]

{QUOTE-> I don't use the Suite because I don't need a software firewall (I use ProcessGuard full version to control what calls out and I am behind a router). So, I'll let others who use it answer. From what I read here, and elsewhere on the net, some people love it while some have problems with the Firewall and/or the http scanner. Like ANY AV program, you need to test it on YOUR setup to see if it works well for you and if you like it. That's why there are free trials. So, I'd say get it and see what you think. <-QUOTE}


Very well said Mele on trialing AV's on your own setup. :thumb:

[Thug21]

The firewall is ok but you would definitely want to set it to "high" which closes all your ports versus the default "medium" which doesn't.

As far as outbound protection, it's fair and has been improved since last tested but its not anything like Comodo.

Using a router or windows firewall for inbound protection and a HIPS (like online armor free) would more than do alongside Avira PE Premium.:)

All this said, I do use the suite and find it works very smoothly and without problems or annoyances.

I recently added Online Armor free (only the HIPS of it) just as an extra layer of protection, or just for fun. :)

[rogervernon]

Every time I try to enter the licence key it tells me it's rejected!
This has been ongoing for while, even after re-registering & re-downloading.
Is there a registry entry, hidden, from a previous trial version?
I can find no Avira entries using regedit.

[chaos16]

one thing the only thing for me that i find effective from the suite is the HTTP scan the rest i don't need.

as Comodo is a better firewall and 3.0 will have a hips so....

or could i custom install it a not install there firewall and antispam and use the HTTP guard?


btw there web guard is only http scan right?

[Thug21]

Yes, you can do a custom install and not include the firewall. :)

[chaos16]

cool i will do that then and use comodo with the extra feature from the suite thanks :)

[Thug21]

Np,

Also, the Webguard scans only http as far as I know. Not https, etc.

[FRug]

That's the whole point of https...

[Thug21]

I'm quite aware. :)

[chaos16]

ive noticed that Avria does not have hourly updates?


and doesn't Avria antivirus use the Kaspersky engine? so it would have the signatures plus there own?

[19monty64]

Avira uses it's own engines...not Kaspersky's.

[Thug21]

Maybe you were thinking of G-Data AntiVirusKit which uses Kaspersky/Avast.

Avira never had anything to do with Kaspersky.

[Mele20]

{QUOTE-> ive noticed that Avria does not have hourly updates?


and doesn't Avria antivirus use the Kaspersky engine? so it would have the signatures plus there own? <-QUOTE}

Avira updates on an average of 5 times a day. You can set it to check every hour for updates. You just need to set up a new "job" and tell it to check hourly. You can set to do it silently too which means no popup but if you do that once a day you should open the GUI and make sure the job has not become corrupted. I had that happen once and didn't know for about 5 days. I thought it was updating all that time.

[19monty64]

{QUOTE-> Avira updates on an average of 5 times a day. You can set it to check every hour for updates. You just need to set up a new "job" and tell it to check hourly. You can set to do it silently too which means no popup but if you do that once a day you should open the GUI and make sure the job has not become corrupted. I had that happen once and didn't know for about 5 days. I thought it was updating all that time. <-QUOTE}
I have it set to minimal so I get a couple seconds notice before that flippin avnotifier jumps out at me (Classic version nag)

[Kerodo]

{QUOTE-> I have it set to minimal so I get a couple seconds notice before that flippin avnotifier jumps out at me (Classic version nag) <-QUOTE}
There are many ways to circumvent the notifier, just check the forum for prior posts on it. It varies depending on which OS you're using etc...

[Mele20]

The notifier isn't working today. I got some message from Avira about how it couldn't show me what I should be buying...and I was going "huh"? for a moment until I realized the ad was not working today. (I have the free version on my virtual machine at the moment because that is where I was working with gav1577's nasty).

[Leo2005]

{QUOTE-> ive noticed that Avria does not have hourly updates? <-QUOTE} the updates are not regular. New Definitionsfiels are uploaded when new malware is available to detect.


[UQOTe]and doesn't Avria antivirus use the Kaspersky engine? so it would have the signatures plus there own? <-QUOTE}NO! Avira uses its own engine

edit: oh was already answered didn't saw the second page ;)

[JohnnyBravo]

{QUOTE-> The firewall is ok but you would definitely want to set it to "high" which closes all your ports versus the default "medium" which doesn't.
<-QUOTE}
How to set this?

[Thug21]

No need to go to configuration. :)
Just open Avira's control center and click the Firewall tab at the top.
You will see a horizontal slider - move it to high.

[ggf31416]

{QUOTE-> Avria antivirus <-QUOTE}

It is not Avria. It is Avira.

[Bunkhouse Buck]

{QUOTE-> How to set this? <-QUOTE}

Ports 0 & 1 are not stealthed (they are closed) even with the Avira firewall setting on high. Refer to link below for discussion.

If you use Gibson's Research's Shield's Up test, you will discover as noted above that the first two ports are closed but not stealthed even if the Avira firewall is set to high. Some alleged gurus say this is unimportant including Avira's, but it is important to me and many others. If you want all of your ports in stealth mode, you must compose the rule created by Avira and add it to your firewall.

http://forum.avira.com/thread.php?threadid=26873&threadview=0&hilight=stealth&hilightuser=0&page=3

[ultragunnerdcl]

So is Avira the ultimate antivirus in detections according to the test results of av comparatives, Av test, virus info, & qnet labs.???

http://virusinfo.info/index.php?page=testseng
http://www.qnetlabs.com/
www.av-comparatives.org/*puppy*

Are all the other antivirus no match against AVIRA????

[SteveBlanchard]

{QUOTE-> ive noticed that Avria does not have hourly updates?


and doesn't Avria antivirus use the Kaspersky engine? so it would have the signatures plus there own? <-QUOTE}

Running a 3mth trial started yesterday, not likely to last much longer either.

Avira only does daily upgrades :o My next one is due 24hrs after I ran upload at 22:50, I don't even know whether it will upload a scan tomorrow morning if the PC is off.

Avira scan is CPU hungary:( How can some software being scanned demand 96% cpu and others 4%, Avira doesn't even offset any private memory, so the scan slows everything else down.

Avira is cheap 8) and it shows.

All my opinion of course

[Arup]

{QUOTE-> Running a 3mth trial started yesterday, not likely to last much longer either.

Avira only does daily upgrades :o My next one is due 24hrs after I ran upload at 22:50, I don't even know whether it will upload a scan tomorrow morning if the PC is off.

Avira scan is CPU hungary:( How can some software being scanned demand 96% cpu and others 4%, Avira doesn't even offset any private memory, so the scan slows everything else down.

Avira is cheap 8) and it shows.

All my opinion of course <-QUOTE}


Yep, stay away from Avira and Avast, both are el cheapo, junk, garbage, get KAV or better, Dr. Web ;) Dunno why AV Comparatives rate it so high.

Btw, with Avira's scheduler, you can decrease the intervals for the updates but in any case, you don't want to be with a cheap AV anyways.

[trjam]

{QUOTE-> Running a 3mth trial started yesterday, not likely to last much longer either.

Avira only does daily upgrades :o My next one is due 24hrs after I ran upload at 22:50, I don't even know whether it will upload a scan tomorrow morning if the PC is off.

Avira scan is CPU hungary:( How can some software being scanned demand 96% cpu and others 4%, Avira doesn't even offset any private memory, so the scan slows everything else down.

Avira is cheap 8) and it shows.

All my opinion of course <-QUOTE}
Kaspersky has to. They rely 99 percent on signatures. Avira, like Eset and others know theeir heuristic detection will catch just about all. If a push was needed they all can send out an update right then. Two things, if it is so cheap, why in just about all tests is it rated so high, and based on the comments by IBK saying the test at the end of this month, you will see more false positives from signatures added then ever before. Kav is very good, but frequency of updates has to be looked at based on the type of antivirus product and it means of detection.

[SteveBlanchard]

{QUOTE-> Kaspersky has to. They rely 99 percent on signatures. Avira, like Eset and others know theeir heuristic detection will catch just about all. If a push was needed they all can send out an update right then. Two things, if it is so cheap, why in just about all tests is it rated so high, and based on the comments by IBK saying the test at the end of this month, you will see more false positives from signatures added then ever before. Kav is very good, but frequency of updates has to be looked at based on the type of antivirus product and it means of detection. <-QUOTE}

Decisions, leaving KAV out of the equation then, it will be down to a matter of personal choice. However I would like updates to be automatic, rather than scheduled., Heuristics may catch everything, but the reassurance of an automatic update is far better imo

[trjam]

{QUOTE-> Decisions, leaving KAV out of the equation then, it will be down to a matter of personal choice. However I would like updates to be automatic, rather than scheduled., Heuristics may catch everything, but the reassurance of an automatic update is far better imo <-QUOTE}
Again, it is a individuals choice and you cant go wrong with Avira, Kav, or Dr.Web. But even with updates, heuristics, signatures, you better add some more because there is still a hole to allow nasties in. ;)

[SteveBlanchard]

{QUOTE-> Again, it is a individuals choice and you cant go wrong with Avira, Kav, or Dr.Web. But even with updates, heuristics, signatures, you better add some more because there is still a hole to allow nasties in. ;) <-QUOTE}

I ditched BoClean as is conflicts!

[Mele20]

{QUOTE-> Decisions, leaving KAV out of the equation then, it will be down to a matter of personal choice. However I would like updates to be automatic, rather than scheduled., Heuristics may catch everything, but the reassurance of an automatic update is far better imo <-QUOTE}

Updates are automatic. I have Avira set to check every hour. Out of 24 daily AUTOMATIC checks, Avira updates on the average of 5 times a day.

[Bunkhouse Buck]

{QUOTE-> Updates are automatic. I have Avira set to check every hour. Out of 24 daily AUTOMATIC checks, Avira updates on the average of 5 times a day. <-QUOTE}

I agree. I have it set to update every 59 minutes and have averaged about 5 per day. It updates more than NOD32 as well that averages fewer updates per day (about 3).

[zfactor]

i agree i see around 4-5 updates per day.. notbad but if you want it to update more than once every 24hrs you need to set a new task for that in the schedular. otherwise it is on default to every 24hrs.

[ggf31416]

{QUOTE-> if you want it to update more than once every 24hrs you need to set a new task for that in the schedular. otherwise it is on default to every 24hrs. <-QUOTE}

or use windows scheduler instead of sched or buy the premium version

[ChrisBUK]

I have my updates set to every 3 hours and I see around 5 updates daily too.

[zfactor]

this is the premium version.. and using the rules on the avira forum port 0 is stealth for me...

[ugly]

{QUOTE-> Kaspersky has to. They rely 99 percent on signatures. <-QUOTE}

Are you sure about that ?


~Screenshot removed. The test results are copyrighted by AV-Comparatives.org~

[C.S.J]

{QUOTE-> Are you sure about that ? <-QUOTE}



i dont think IBK will be very happy about this, but he can speak for himself :)

*hands up for a whipping?*

http://www.av-comparatives.org/

[tec505]

@ugly

??? where 've you find that?:o
This is NOT official!

@C.S.J
you 're right IBK will not be happy of that.

Mike

[ugly]

{QUOTE-> @ugly

??? where 've you find that?:o
This is NOT official!

@C.S.J
you 're right IBK will not be happy of that.

Mike <-QUOTE}

It is very official.;)
You can find it as "Kaspersky Anti-Virus 7.0 (proactive test) June 2007" if you scroll down in "Comparatives" page.
I don't see a single reason for IBK to be unhappy.:wacko:
I respect his work and I trust those results.:thumb:

Edit : Ronjor , deleting my screenshot is not fair.
We can find in this forum hundreds of screenshots with tests , comparatives , etc , from different sites. Are you going to delete all of them ,or those are not copyrighted ?

[tec505]

{QUOTE-> It is very official.;)
You can find it as "Kaspersky Anti-Virus 7.0 (proactive test) June 2007" if you scroll down in "Comparatives" page.
I don't see a single reason for IBK to be unhappy.:wacko:
I respect his work and I trust those results.:thumb:

<-QUOTE}

I found It. I hadn't seen this test before. Good KAV perfomance.

Mike 8)

[zfactor]

i wish kav didnt add to the file system.. i tried it on one of my old boxes and i like it as a whole.. i wil lnot install it on my main box for that reason though

[IBK]

@ugly: its av-c site policy - i sent you a pm ;).

[vlk]

{QUOTE-> Yep, stay away from Avira and Avast, both are el cheapo, junk, garbage... <-QUOTE}

Arup, what happened, I thought you always liked avast...;D

[Arup]

{QUOTE-> Arup, what happened, I thought you always liked avast...;D <-QUOTE}


vlk,

I still do.........that was sarcasm.....:)

[QBgreen]

{QUOTE-> Running a 3mth trial started yesterday, not likely to last much longer either.

Avira only does daily upgrades :o My next one is due 24hrs after I ran upload at 22:50, I don't even know whether it will upload a scan tomorrow morning if the PC is off.

Avira scan is CPU hungary:( How can some software being scanned demand 96% cpu and others 4%, Avira doesn't even offset any private memory, so the scan slows everything else down.

Avira is cheap 8) and it shows.

All my opinion of course <-QUOTE}

If you're testing PE Premium, you've obviously overlooked the "Scheduler" tab. You can have it update every 15 minutes if you choose to.

Per CPU usage, what else would you be doing on your machine (or would want to be doing) while scanning files?

As for it being cheap, there is nothing cheap about a 99.45% detection rate.

[SteveBlanchard]

{QUOTE-> If you're testing PE Premium, you've obviously overlooked the "Scheduler" tab. You can have it update every 15 minutes if you choose to.

Per CPU usage, what else would you be doing on your machine (or would want to be doing) while scanning files?

As for it being cheap, there is nothing cheap about a 99.45% detection rate. <-QUOTE}

A few things need inproving on Avira (not virus detection), It is not user friendly enough and needs a facelift; Why does it say the "do system scan now" if the scan has just completed? The 15 minute scheduler must be default, not an option.

Many people don't leave machines on 24/7 so a scan IS going to happen in the evening when you are working on it.

[19monty64]

Click the scheduler tab and you can set updates and scans any time you want and as frequently as you want...

[Mele20]

{QUOTE-> A few things need inproving on Avira (not virus detection), It is not user friendly enough and needs a facelift; Why does it say the "do system scan now" if the scan has just completed? The 15 minute scheduler must be default, not an option.

Many people don't leave machines on 24/7 so a scan IS going to happen in the evening when you are working on it. <-QUOTE}

After clicking on Scheduler, click on the fartherest left icon (insert new job) and you can have Avira check every hour. Since Avir updates on the average of five times a day, I think checking once an hour is more than sufficient. You can set the job to be silent also if you want.

[Brian N]

Cool, free version is making me crazy with that huge popup ::)
3 months trial here I come!

[Kerodo]

{QUOTE-> Cool, free version is making me crazy with that huge popup ::)
3 months trial here I come! <-QUOTE}
You can easily get rid of "that huge popup" in the free version, just search this forum for past posts on avnotify.exe and so on, the cure depends on the OS involved. But any HIPS that let's you block executables will easily stop avnotify.exe from running and that's what generates the popup.

[Sportscubs1272]

A new av-test lab comparison. http://www.pcwelt.de/start/sicherheit/antivirus/news/129927/

AntiVir in fourth place this time around.

[Arup]

Oh man, that would make a certain someone very happy. Its still an excellent and consistent show.

[wdh2313]

{QUOTE-> A new av-test lab comparison. http://www.pcwelt.de/start/sicherheit/antivirus/news/129927/

AntiVir in fourth place this time around. <-QUOTE} Actually it's 2nd because webwasher and g-data is using multiple engines from other av's. I would consider avira 2nd and bitdefender 1st. Also webwasher uses avira's engine as one. :)

[Arup]

{QUOTE-> Actually it's 2nd because webwasher and g-data is using multiple engines from other av's. I would consider avira 2nd and bitdefender 1st. Also webwasher uses avira's engine as one. :) <-QUOTE}


Agreed............

[jlo]

{QUOTE-> Kaspersky has to. They rely 99 percent on signatures. . <-QUOTE}


Hi,

I am not so sure this is true now with Kasperky V7 latest heuristic module (I have seen on Virus Total eg Heur.downloader etc) as I think there heuristics has much improved.

Cheers

Jlo

[solcroft]

{QUOTE-> Hi,

I am not so sure this is true now with Kasperky V7 latest heuristic module (I have seen on Virus Total eg Heur.downloader etc) as I think there heuristics has much improved.

Cheers

Jlo <-QUOTE}
Yep. That, and people are always forgetting the PDM...

[DVD+R]

Reading some posts here I've come to the conclusion some people just like to criticise and have no Idea what they are talking about :dry:

Ermm:

~removed innapropriate comment....Bubba~

[Arup]

{QUOTE-> Reading some posts here I've come to the conclusion some people just like to criticise and have no Idea what they are talking about :dry:

Ermm:

~removed innapropriate comment from quote....Bubba~ <-QUOTE}I fully agree with you:)

[trjam]

nice to come home.;)

[JasSolo]

{QUOTE-> nice to come home.;) <-QUOTE}


trjam you as well leaving F-Secure?, is there a pattern here? ;D


Cheers

[athan26]

Avira anti-Virus Personal Edition Classic is not totally remove the virus for example the vbscript Avira detect the script virus and delete but after an hours detect it again unlike in Kaspersky once delete the script virus and the script virus cant pop up again or detect again because its deleted :)

[C.S.J]

{QUOTE-> Avira anti-Virus Personal Edition Classic is not totally remove the virus for example the vbscript Avira detect the script virus and delete but after an hours detect it again unlike in Kaspersky once delete the script virus and the script virus cant pop up again or detect again because its deleted :) <-QUOTE}
yes, its known.

welcome aboard.

[Arup]

Avira PE free and premium uses the same engine and definition files, so if you are saying that PE doesn't remove the virus, then I guess neither does the premium.

[BBKing212]

What is the difference between Avire Premium and Avira Workstation?

[cupez80]

Avira Workstation can scan network drive...