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ultragunnerdcl
November 16th, 2007, 06:39 PM
According to the info by VIRUS INFO
http://virusinfo.info/index.php?page=testseng
Nod32 uses only two detection methods compared to Avira that uses three. & Esafe that uses another method.
Any plans to incorporate this unused methods in future release of nod32?
1) detection of suspicious file (detecting yet unknown malware by the method of informing the user about suspicious characteristics of a sample under analysis. Examples: "Suspicious file"; "VIPRE: Suspicious") Ex. Esafe
2) detection of suspicious cryptor / packer (detecting yet unknown malware by the method of informing the user about the unknown / rare / suspicious packer / cryptor or about the fact of multiple packing / crypting. Example: "HEUR/Crypted"). Ex. Avira
twl845
November 16th, 2007, 06:53 PM
-{ Quote: "According to the info by VIRUS INFO
http://virusinfo.info/index.php?page=testseng
Nod32 uses only two detection methods compared to Avira that uses three. & Esafe that uses another method.
Any plans to incorporate this unused methods in future release of nod32?
1) detection of suspicious file (detecting yet unknown malware by the method of informing the user about suspicious characteristics of a sample under analysis. Examples: "Suspicious file"; "VIPRE: Suspicious") Ex. Esafe
2) detection of suspicious cryptor / packer (detecting yet unknown malware by the method of informing the user about the unknown / rare / suspicious packer / cryptor or about the fact of multiple packing / crypting. Example: "HEUR/Crypted"). Ex. Avira" }-
Considering how long we waited for the newly released v3 this week, I for one am not going to concern myself with future releases. I might be in the Home by then. ;D
proactivelover
November 16th, 2007, 06:55 PM
i think when our childrens grow up they will see it :)
ultragunnerdcl
November 16th, 2007, 06:58 PM
Hahhaha. That is good joke. But Really it would really help nod32 a lot if it is added, it can very useful as proven by avira & esafe.
proactivelover
November 16th, 2007, 07:03 PM
you post your thread on wrong section this forum is for only eav v3
solcroft
November 16th, 2007, 07:50 PM
-{ Quote: "According to the info by VIRUS INFO
http://virusinfo.info/index.php?page=testseng
Nod32 uses only two detection methods compared to Avira that uses three. & Esafe that uses another method.
Any plans to incorporate this unused methods in future release of nod32?
1) detection of suspicious file (detecting yet unknown malware by the method of informing the user about suspicious characteristics of a sample under analysis. Examples: "Suspicious file"; "VIPRE: Suspicious") Ex. Esafe
2) detection of suspicious cryptor / packer (detecting yet unknown malware by the method of informing the user about the unknown / rare / suspicious packer / cryptor or about the fact of multiple packing / crypting. Example: "HEUR/Crypted"). Ex. Avira" }-
As for 1, NOD32 already includes a relatively advanced heuristics engine. As for 2, Eset's method is to try to strip off the packer and scan the underlying code instead of just reporting the packed file, which may or may not be malware (it's like reporting that a file is zipped because the antivirus product doesn't know how to unzip and scan the file inside).
lucas1985
November 17th, 2007, 04:04 PM
-{ Quote: "detection of suspicious cryptor / packer (detecting yet unknown malware by the method of informing the user about the unknown / rare / suspicious packer / cryptor or about the fact of multiple packing / crypting. Example: "HEUR/Crypted"). Ex. Avira" }-
AFAIK, ESET does some packer-based detection:
- Win32/Packed.Themida
- Win32/Pacex.Gen
Klaus_1250
November 18th, 2007, 02:17 PM
-{ Quote: "According to the info by VIRUS INFO
1) detection of suspicious file (detecting yet unknown malware by the method of informing the user about suspicious characteristics of a sample under analysis. Examples: "Suspicious file"; "VIPRE: Suspicious") Ex. Esafe
2) detection of suspicious cryptor / packer (detecting yet unknown malware by the method of informing the user about the unknown / rare / suspicious packer / cryptor or about the fact of multiple packing / crypting. Example: "HEUR/Crypted"). Ex. Avira" }-
Problem with those kind of detection methods is that they also lead to false positives. While they might be usefull (and easily implemented) you'll still need the user to be capable of understanding wheter or not it is an FP or not.
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