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Perman
November 13th, 2007, 02:04 PM
Hi, folks:

Just got this news:

ZA antispyware--firewall plus AS is free from 700AM today until 700AM tomorrow PST. link is www.zonealarm.com/patchtuesday
You need to register your name and e mail address. Subscription is valid good for one year. An Excellent effort exhibited by another responsible corporate friend. Take care.

combo
November 13th, 2007, 02:13 PM
link doesn'T work.

Perman
November 13th, 2007, 02:16 PM
Hi, folks;

Just recheck the link again, should be www.zonealarm.com/patchtuesday.
a dot was missing from previous post. But the page is not there anymore. Strange and funny. Did someone hack into their site and play an early April fool. ???

Perman
November 13th, 2007, 02:39 PM
Hi, folks:

Try this link http://www.zonealarm.com/store/content/promotions/sum/sum_promo.jsp?menu=1
Good luck

eBBox
November 13th, 2007, 02:49 PM
Thx :thumb: Works fine here ;D

dNor
November 13th, 2007, 03:22 PM
First posted link didn't work as they're "really busy with requests, try later" but the second one posted by Perman to the store works fine!

Thanks for the headsup. :thumb:

jfd15
November 13th, 2007, 09:50 PM
no Vista :(

Perman
November 13th, 2007, 10:37 PM
HI,

Keep your hopes UP!

Perhaps on next, next patchtuesday special ? ;)

jfd15
November 13th, 2007, 10:41 PM
great, will watch for it.....

AKAJohnDoe
November 13th, 2007, 10:47 PM
While it is refreshing to see this freebie offer, ZA has been a disappointment for awhile now. Other than the prompting for outgoing connections, I'm not seeing much difference between most of the firewalls, Vista Firewall included, when tested against the Shields-Up test scenarios.

acr45
November 13th, 2007, 11:13 PM
Ok I was thinking that you only got the anti-spyware app and not its firewall. I still want to use the anti-spyware but not the firewall because comodo is already on my computer. Will it still be safe to install this program on my system and just disable zonealarm's firewall component? Has anyone else tried doing this yet?

aigle
November 13th, 2007, 11:28 PM
Don,t bother for it. Not a good idea. AS is poor. Only its behav blocker( OS FireWall) is nice.

19monty64
November 13th, 2007, 11:55 PM
What engine do they use for their AS???

aigle
November 14th, 2007, 12:03 AM
I don,t know. Never used except trials etc but I have never read about its AS to be more than mediorice anywhere.

19monty64
November 14th, 2007, 12:15 AM
Yea, same here iirc. Bad install of just the f/w for me a few months back...

Perman
November 14th, 2007, 12:26 AM
Hi, folks;

Although this app is wrapped up and is presented to us as an Antispyware, its true colour is actually a firewall. Only two features, according to ZA's own web site, distinguish it from ZA pro--the other firewall we all know about; they are identity protection and privacy protection. Most users hook onto it is for its super 3 layers firewall protection; namely network, application and O/S , in addition, less expensive than its twin(90%, shall we say) ZA pro.

IMO, for those who are still hunting quality free firewall, time is running out. My daughter in university has spread the words, most of her classmates are rushed to install this special--which I feel is very stable and no slowdown. Take care.

Hairy Coo
November 14th, 2007, 12:46 AM
Testing it-no problems at all-its great-THANKS:thumb:

19monty64
November 14th, 2007, 04:16 AM
-{ Quote: "Testing it-no problems at all-its great-THANKS:thumb:" }-
Hairy Coo,
Can you let us know how it works out for you? I'm still "playing" with WDF, but Wordward and I will probably bug you over the next few days about the specs. We've all tested the same firewalls lately and might be able to make a comparison...

Wordward
November 14th, 2007, 09:03 AM
I hate to admit it 19monty64, but I have it installed right now. And yes let's bug HC, he doesn't seem to mind. LOL. I will say it installed without any problems and everything is running as well as it did with WDF. I have also installed ThreatFire and switched to Avast Home. So far I like this combo. The GUI is more to my liking than WDF and the logs are easy to understand. I would like to know what the advantages are with the Triple Firewall though. I'm not sure I fully understand what all this is suppose to protect against. Take care and see ya all later.

19monty64
November 14th, 2007, 09:31 AM
-{ Quote: "I hate to admit it 19monty64, but I have it installed right now. And yes let's bug HC, he doesn't seem to mind. LOL." }-
LMAO...I knew you would be all over that offer...LMAO...I've dLo'ed it too, just haven't installed it yet. I like to keep myself in suspense so I can "dream of firewalls"...LMAO ;D

QBgreen
November 14th, 2007, 09:52 AM
I actually paid for this a while (April) ago. If you're into leaktest results, firing on all cylinders it rates the same as ZA Pro (8600 - Very Good) at Matousec.

The anti-spyware module is so-so, but as has been mentioned, the "triple" firewall is the money here. Another thing that I found is that it worked very well with any AV that I tried with it. For free, it should be a done deal.

19monty64
November 14th, 2007, 10:00 AM
-{ Quote: "I actually paid for this a while (April) ago. If you're into leaktest results, firing on all cylinders it rates the same as ZA Pro (8600 - Very Good) at Matousec." }-
What is it's min/max ram usage??? Any slow-down on loading of web-pages or boot-up times??? It's been a while since I've used ZA, as it failed to install the last time I tried...

Fuzzfas
November 14th, 2007, 11:12 AM
Thanks for the heads up! Although, i just visited the ZA forum and i think i will wait for the next release before installing it. ;D

bigc73542
November 14th, 2007, 11:17 AM
as usual with most freebies, not Vista compatible.:P there are a few exceptions but not many.

Perman
November 14th, 2007, 11:36 AM
-{ Quote: "Thanks for the heads up! Although, i just visited the ZA forum and i think i will wait for the next release before installing it. ;D" }-
Hi,

I just left there too. I did not find many postings re this build 408, except one fellow who installed ZA AS before bed time, thinking it was a pure AS and would do wonderful thing for him during overnight, then woke to find all his settings were screwed up. Poor guy he is. This ZA AS is actually a firewall in disguise. There are many setting needed to be configured (but not too complicated). If this one issue halts you from using it, think twice, if I were you. I have used many versions of ZASS, ZA Pro before, this build of ZAAS is few that I have not encountered any problem upon installation. Perhaps ZA has learned from past errors and has polished this one. :) Take care.

19monty64
November 14th, 2007, 11:46 AM
-{ Quote: "this build of ZAAS is few that I have not encountered any problem upon installation. Perhaps ZA has learned from past errors and has polished this one. :) Take care." }-
Thanx for the heads up, that's the only real issue I was worried about. I suppose for this promo they would want to put their best foot forward, especially with all the competition that has out-paced them as of late...

Fuzzfas
November 14th, 2007, 02:08 PM
-{ Quote: "Hi,

I just left there too. I did not find many postings re this build 408, except one fellow who installed ZA AS before bed time, thinking it was a pure AS and would do wonderful thing for him during overnight, then woke to find all his settings were screwed up. Poor guy he is. This ZA AS is actually a firewall in disguise. There are many setting needed to be configured (but not too complicated). If this one issue halts you from using it, think twice, if I were you. I have used many versions of ZASS, ZA Pro before, this build of ZAAS is few that I have not encountered any problem upon installation. Perhaps ZA has learned from past errors and has polished this one. :) Take care." }-


Thanks for the info Perman.I know that it has the firewall.That is actually the only part i am interested in. But i had tried a previous version of the ZA antivirus, and had many problems, so i become cautious about ZA. I really don't need it urgently. I prefer lightweight firewalls. But why not have it ? ;D From time to time i change security applications for fun.

As for version .408, i became sceptical about installing it now, because it seems that problems aren't over.

There seems to be update problem to the AS and AV and moderators reccomend to use the BETA version instead.

Relevant threads:
http://forums.zonealarm.com/zonelabs/board/message?board.id=Antivirus&message.id=24964

http://forums.zonealarm.com/zonelabs/board/message?board.id=Antivirus&message.id=25072

Having in mind the track record of ZA and their buggy releases in the last years,i think i will pass untill i see a more stable version. When even the "ZA gurus" reccommend to use betas, then i feel a bit uncomfortable in using the stable releases. ;D And since ZA isn't exactly the easiest program to uninstall, i will stick with my featherweight Ashampoo free behind my router for a while.

Hairy Coo
November 14th, 2007, 10:58 PM
-{ Quote: "Hairy Coo,
Can you let us know how it works out for you? I'm still "playing" with WDF, but Wordward and I will probably bug you over the next few days about the specs. We've all tested the same firewalls lately and might be able to make a comparison..." }-
A1 Great-what more can I say;D

Fuzzfas-no uninstall or other probs at all-if you accidentally delete the temp/uninstall ZA file -just a matter of reinstalling and uninstall immediately

Jon_T
November 16th, 2007, 06:13 PM
-{ Quote: "...no uninstall or other probs at all-if you accidentally delete the temp/uninstall ZA file - just a matter of reinstalling and uninstall immediately" }-
In most cases but not always. ZA recommends shutting down any other security apps (AV, AS, etc.) before installing to avoid any install problems.

If you want to uninstall/remove all of ZA need to follow the uninstall instructions at ZoneAlarm User Forum:
http://forum.zonelabs.com/zonelabs/board/message?board.id=AllowAccess&message.id=103

Been using ZA since 2.0 version and never updated beyond the last ZA Pro 5.5 version, which I'm still using on my old P4 box behind a NAT/SPI router. By reading posts at ZoneAlarm User Forum boards and other forums, installing the 6.x and 7.x versions have become like playing Russian Roulette. The problems/issues are too many and I do not like all the non-firewall features bloat in the latest ZA Pro versions. On my new box been trialling OA Free.

Wished ZA would just release a firewall only version without AV or AS.
IMO the best "pure" software firewall by ZoneAlarm was ZA Plus.

Wordward
November 16th, 2007, 08:25 PM
Long story short. I tried Zone Alarm Antispyware and liked it a lot, and am now comparing it Webroot Desktop Firewall as far as differences in browser speed and PC speed. ZA AS uninstalled very well, ( I did set it to not start up after reboot and shut it down before rebooting) and after uninstall it only left two Leagacy Drivers in the Registry and I think one folder, and a hidden windows system32 dat file named zlift or something like that, but everything deleted ok. The Drivers were named vsdatant and vsapint. I googled the second one and it was said to be associated with Trend Micro. (Must be the Antispyware ZA uses as I never had Trend Micro installed) Anyway, PC is slightly faster on boot up with WDF than it was with ZA AS, but there seems to be no difference in browser or PC speed. I asked in the "other firewall" section if ZA Triple Defense Firewall is a HIPS and what all it covers as far as protection. There seems to be a lot of things it protects against, and can take a little time to digest. (At least for me. LOL.) Nothing hard to learn necessarily, just a little patience in reading the help file and finding out what some things do. Also the GUI layout IMO is very easy to understand and to get around in and also IMO, nice looking. If I find out that the Triple Defense Firewall is as protective as Dynamic Security Agent is in WDF, or even anywhere close to it. I won't hesitate to switch back to ZA AS. I use Avast and even ran ThreatFire with ZA AS without incident and must say I was pleasantly surprised at having a very good experience with ZA AS.

19monty64
November 16th, 2007, 09:17 PM
I haven't installed the ZA yet. I'm waiting for the next build to go final. I hope the ZA-HIPS are "smarter" than WDF/DSA. (which learned nothing during it's learning period.) Good to hear it gets along with TF though.

Wordward
November 16th, 2007, 09:31 PM
Any idea how long until the next build will be released 19monty64? Also you said WDF didn't remember some things? I have it in Learning Mode now, but since you mentioned it I think when I had it installed last time I did have to allow a few of the same things more than once after taking it out of Learning Mode, but I'm not sure. I like WDF, but am beginning to think ZA AS may be the way to go long term. Don't be afraid to try it out. As I mentioned it ran well with TF and Avast, and uninstalled quite well, and also the AntiSpyware updated everyday. Being on a Wireless PC caused a few alerts and I had to figure out what they were for, but the ZA Smart Adviser, which I really like a lot, helped me to do so. Oh and the logging is far superior to WDF for sure. I'm not saying I'm giving up on WDF just yet, but after using ZA AS, OA Free, and now WDF again. ZA AS just seems like it's a much more featured program than the other two, and although there's a lot going on that needs to be fully understood with it, may be worth the effort in the end. Time will tell as I learn more about how the Triple Defense Firewall compares to the protection offered by WDF with DSA and OA Free's HIPS.

Sportscubs1272
November 16th, 2007, 11:41 PM
So does the license expire exactly a year later (Nov 13-14 of next year) or starts after downloading the program on a later date? I know they use the server updates to activate the paid or free beta licenses, but in the past each license had a certain expiration date w/out checking the ZA Labs server.

Wordward
November 17th, 2007, 12:01 AM
I can't remember for sure, but it seemed that the one year began on the same day the offer was put out. However you would think that if you downloaded it, but haven't installed it yet.That the one year wouldn't begin until you use the Activation Key.

Sportscubs1272
November 17th, 2007, 12:46 AM
I have two licenses and I activated one of them already. I might buy a notebook next year so I was wondering if it would last a whole year after activation or until next november. It could be a moot point if they don't offer a Vista version of it! :D

Jon_T
November 17th, 2007, 01:51 AM
-{ Quote: "I have two licenses and I activated one of them already. I might buy a notebook next year so I was wondering if it would last a whole year after activation or until next november. It could be a moot point if they don't offer a Vista version of it! :D" }-
Read the "Free ZoneAlarm Anti-Spyware You Requested" email you got from ZoneAlarm.

Mine had "Note: this license key is valid 11/13/07 to 11/12/08 for use on one computer."

Hence the license key is only valid till 11/12/08, irregardless of the date when software installed.

Sportscubs1272
November 17th, 2007, 05:03 AM
I was awarded a free license from ZA when I participated in a beta program and it had a set time limit. The following year's license was activated when you first entered it in the dialog box. You could have waited two months later and you would still had the full year. They had sort of the same disclaimer like the freebie we had a few days ago. I hope I can afford a new notebook and use the other license before it expires. :)

19monty64
November 17th, 2007, 07:39 AM
-{ Quote: "Any idea how long until the next build will be released 19monty64? Also you said WDF didn't remember some things? I have it in Learning Mode now, but since you mentioned it I think when I had it installed last time I did have to allow a few of the same things more than once after taking it out of Learning Mode, but I'm not sure. I like WDF, but am beginning to think ZA AS may be the way to go long term. Don't be afraid to try it out. As I mentioned it ran well with TF and Avast, and uninstalled quite well, and also the AntiSpyware updated everyday. Being on a Wireless PC caused a few alerts and I had to figure out what they were for, but the ZA Smart Adviser, which I really like a lot, helped me to do so. Oh and the logging is far superior to WDF for sure. I'm not saying I'm giving up on WDF just yet, but after using ZA AS, OA Free, and now WDF again. ZA AS just seems like it's a much more featured program than the other two, and although there's a lot going on that needs to be fully understood with it, may be worth the effort in the end. Time will tell as I learn more about how the Triple Defense Firewall compares to the protection offered by WDF with DSA and OA Free's HIPS." }-
From their forum, they were requesting as much user-imput (and patience) as they could get so as to push out the next version expeditiously lol but they did recommend using the beta if .408 had the updater-issues. If your spyware-defs are updating okay, the next version won't add anything for you. About giving ZAAS a try, I'm not afraid of the uninstallation process. I'd re4mat if I had to to get the bugger off my 'puter. (M$ once told me that the MSN-toolbar couldn't be uninstalled and I installed just to prove them wrong HAH) What does delay me from ZAAS is that I a few betas installed right now and I just don't wanna rock the boat just yet. What is the ram-usage on ZAAS right now anyway??? (Oh no, I'm getting the itch...) And WDF's memory span is as short as mine, with it's cryptic messages at boot-up. I only rebooted 10-15 times during the learning period, apparently patch-tuesday's 1 update (in learning-mode) was more than it could comprehend. Rant complete...

Wordward
November 17th, 2007, 08:56 AM
For what it's worth. (not sure how reliable the source is) Here's a very good review of Zone Alarm Anti-Spyware.

www.cnet.com.au/software/security/0,239029558,339274487,00.htm

19monty64
November 17th, 2007, 09:20 AM
-{ Quote: "What is the ram-usage on ZAAS right now anyway??? " }-
Sorry for my ram-question Wordward, I know you ZA-users are sensitive about that...er...um...not so small matter. ROFLMAO

Wordward
November 18th, 2007, 01:42 AM
19monty64. You so crazy. LOL. Seriously though. I don't worry that much about the memory usage of a program as long as my System Idle Process CPU usage in Task Manager runs between 98 and 99. Which it did with any of the programs that I have tried so far. ZA AS with ThreatFire, WDF with DSA enabled, and OA Free. Plus Avast of course. I am seriously thinking of using ZA AS and finally be done with my craziness. LOL. I'm basically convinced that the OS Firewall in ZA is quite formidable, and that TF may not even be needed. However I like the idea of having TF on board for some reason. Right now believe it or not I'm only running Avast until I make my final decision as to what other security to use. I have ruled out WDF, as I changed my mind about liking its GUI, and the fact that DSA hasn't been updated for awhile. OA Free is still in the running however simply because of the support Mike gives, and because I think its protection compliments Avast pretty well. Now all I have to do is decide which software will offer the most protection. OA Free or ZA AS. And do I want a set and forget program like OA Free, or a more bells and whistles one like ZA AS. Right now though if I don't go to bed and get some sleep. I won't have the energy to install either one. LOL.

19monty64
November 18th, 2007, 05:42 AM
Wordward,
I have the ram to spare too, so its not a concern for me either. I just get a "kick" when ZA-users (some, not all) "dance" around the ram-question, the same way FF-users (some, not all) avoid the mem-drain topic...

Are you considering adding ST (with HIPS/AV enabled) to ZAAS, TF & Avast??? Perhaps A2/IDS could fit in there too???

Pleasant dreams... lol

Perman
November 18th, 2007, 08:38 AM
Hi, folks:

Please please do not add too many HIPS to ZAAS. Its own triple protection has provided user more than average protections and will initially ask your disposition on any action--learning mode, until you has gone thru your routines. Adding another or even more HIPS, you will go thru the very same route again and again. Even they have finally settled down, you will face multiple pop ups next time new services/ registry changes or ..occur . I can assure you that your head will spin off the track and your heart-beat rate will jump out the scale. Stay simple and be more effectively and much efficiently... Take care.

Wordward
November 18th, 2007, 10:01 AM
Hey Perman. I am thinking ZAAS will be sufficient for my protection, however I'm not sure I need a software firewall since I'm behind a router. So I was thinking because the HIPS in ST isn't the same as TF's Behavior Detection they would work together well with only Avast and Windows XP Firewall. If I do end up using ZAAS it would only be with Avast.

Perman
November 18th, 2007, 10:41 AM
Hi, Wordward;

Since you mentioned these apps; ZAAS, ST,TF and Avast home. And Router.
I may give you these suggestions from my own past experiences with them.

If your computer is stationary--not mobile, router may be sufficient, but it only protect you inbound traffic, how about outbound? are you worry or curious to know what may be relayed out of your box? without a full duty software firewall, such as ZAAS, you have given virtually every app in your box a blank exit visa--a big no no for Homeland security.

If you adopt ZAAS as an anchored firewall plus light-duty AS, I would use ST on demand only, to enlist TF and to add Avast home, a very friendly AV application--getting along with a lot , I mean lots of programs. With these friends on your side, your cyberlife will not go very wrong from that point on. From time to time you may have a strong temptation to try new apps, please do it one a time, any BSOD or anything out of ordinary, do not hesitate to ditch it right way, no leniency should be given. After all, it is your own interest needed to protect not vendor's. And do not ever try beta soft-wares, unless you have a so-called second one to spare.. Take care and good luck.

19monty64
November 18th, 2007, 11:03 AM
Wordward,
since you're on wireless, have you considered PrevX and Avast and Windows fw???

Wordward
November 18th, 2007, 11:05 AM
Thanks Perman. I am close to installing ZAAS again and perhaps adding TF. Any ideas how good TrendMicro is though? I know ZAAS is using TrendMicro as there are a few more controlset001/root/enum/registry entries left that I missed. Legacy_TMPREFLT, VSAPINT, and I think TMFILTER, but that last one may not be one. Also is there any overlap with ZAAS Firewall protection and Avast's Web Shield? I really like ZAAS especially with all the info it provides on various things. And I really like the way TF has improved. So this just may be the way to go and be done with it. One more push ought to do it. So go ahead Perman please push me so I can get on with my life. LOL.

fax
November 18th, 2007, 11:20 AM
-{ Quote: " I know ZAAS is using TrendMicro " }-

Nope, its an internally developed spyware engine and signature, nothing to do with TrendMicro... lately they have been adding signature almost daily... ;)

ZASS also uses the Kaspersky extended database (spyware, adware and riskware) on top of the ZA AS detection.

If you go with ZASS just wait for the next final release or install the beta, there have been huge improvements in memory usage and speed as compared to 408 version.

Cheers,
Fax

Chubb
November 18th, 2007, 11:36 AM
-{ Quote: "Read the "Free ZoneAlarm Anti-Spyware You Requested" email you got from ZoneAlarm.

Mine had "Note: this license key is valid 11/13/07 to 11/12/08 for use on one computer."

Hence the license key is only valid till 11/12/08, irregardless of the date when software installed." }-

I still got the free license e-mail as of today, although the pages says the offer has expired.

The e-mail says the same thing:

-{ Quote: "Note: this license key is valid 11/13/07 to 11/12/08 for use on one computer." }-

19monty64
November 18th, 2007, 11:45 AM
Any time-frame for the next version? I've tried navigating their site for info. :-[

fax
November 19th, 2007, 01:07 PM
-{ Quote: "Any time-frame for the next version? I've tried navigating their site for info. :-[" }-

No idea, by the way, ZA never announce release dates... they will only when is already out.

Fax

Jon_T
November 20th, 2007, 07:08 PM
ZoneAlarm Anti-Spyware version 7.0.462.000 Released
Release Notes:
http://download.zonelabs.com/bin/free/information/zaas/releaseHistory.html#7.0.462.000

Wordward
November 21st, 2007, 05:00 PM
Latest version of ZAAS is running well with Avast Home and ThreatFire. I was sorely tempted to try Comodo 3, but with the improvements made in this version of ZAAS and the problems some are having with CPF 3, I'm glad I installed it again. I don't don't want to hear a word 19monty64. ROTFL.

19monty64
November 21st, 2007, 05:13 PM
Cover your eyes 'cause I think you should stick with your current set-up. This is round 1 and there will be new offerings tomorrow. Out of curiosity, when the 1 year is up are you thinking of purchasing??? tick...tock....

Perman
November 21st, 2007, 06:11 PM
Hi,

When your subscription is to be up next year, there will be some perhaps even more good quality freewares around.

With the events popping up lately, more free firewalls with high calibre will be emerging and to take a very strong market share. If this trend holds up , I will not be surprised to learn that only few of those(especially, stand -alone ones) will be left around this time next year. Take care.

Wordward
November 21st, 2007, 07:09 PM
Cover your eyes 'cause I think you should stick with your current set-up. This is round 1 and there will be new offerings tomorrow.LOL. They're closed 19monty64, but now I can't see my ZA Icon in the Task Bar Tray. LOL.

rookieman
November 21st, 2007, 07:47 PM
Does this program have the firewall with it also?:D

Wordward
November 21st, 2007, 07:51 PM
It has the famous Triple Defense Firewall my friend. For more on this you can peruse the "other firewall" forum under Zone Alarm Triple Defense Firewall question. Take care.

Jon_T
November 21st, 2007, 11:15 PM
-{ Quote: "Does this program have the firewall with it also?:D" }-
Actually its the ZA Firewall with the Anti-Spyware; i.e., you cannot disable firewall and use only Anti-Spyware.

Wordward
December 4th, 2007, 08:57 PM
Hey Hairy Coo. First of all I want you to know that as this moment I am only using Avast Antivirus and nothing else. Believe it, or not! That said, how is ZAAS running for you? Pretty nice program isn't it? I liked it a lot, but I swear my PC ran faster with Webroot Desktop Firewall/DSA, than it did with ZAAS. And the boot ups were definitely faster. I do think however, that ZAAS is a fine full featured program, and to be honest its GUI IMO looks much better than that of WDF. What do you think? Oh and for 19monty64. I know. Tic Tock, Tic Tock. LOL.

Hairy Coo
December 4th, 2007, 11:35 PM
Howdy WW,
Cant believe it-a very courageous move-must imitate when I'm feeling brave,but ZAAS is working so well and fast at all times,that I would even miss the alerts were I to change:)

PS; I give you 10 minutes before the next change!!