KIS 7 and KAV 7?

[firzen771]

anybody who uses KIS 7 or KAV, about how much memory do either of them take up? and is the KIS firewall any good?

*EDIT*

i have a core 2 duo 2.33ghz, 2gb RAM(400mhz)

[Sjoeii]

Hi

You can take a look over here for the firewall question
http://www.matousec.com/projects/windows-personal-firewall-analysis/leak-tests-results.php

[Blackcat]

Difficult to give you a "correct" answer as this will depend upon your OS and the amount of memory you have installed. In addition it will also depend upon which modules you have installed.

On this machine, WIN XP with 2 GB of memory, with just the KAV file scanner installed, KAV 7 has 2 running processes taking up 38MB RAM VM and runs very light.

Effect on system performance is more important than memory usage unless you have an "older" computer.

[Blackcat]

You can also take a look over on the KAV forum (http://forum.kaspersky.com/); there are some relevant threads (http://forum.kaspersky.com/index.php?showtopic=39172&hl=memory+usage).

[starter15]

im running latest version of KIS7 and the two processes usually run around less than 20mb combined.

[fce]

mine is less than 19MB with 2 AVP.exe running.

Setting:
- Firewall: Training mode
- Web AV: Maximum
- Scan: Maximum (Heuristic Analyzer: Detail)
- Others: Default

[firzen771]

with settings configured to max protection, about how much resources does KIS take up, and how much resources does KAV take up? im asking this because i do play games quite often, and i dont want something bogging my system down, i am trialing ESS and its total resource usage is about 30mb-40mb, wondering if KIS 7 is smaller than that in total with all the processes,

[QBgreen]

{QUOTE-> with settings configured to max protection, about how much resources does KIS take up, and how much resources does KAV take up? im asking this because i do play games quite often, and i dont want something bogging my system down, i am trialing ESS and its total resource usage is about 30mb-40mb, wondering if KIS 7 is smaller than that in total with all the processes, <-QUOTE}

On one of my XP Pro boxes (3.2 HTP4/2 GBS RAM) and firing on all cylinders, KIS tops out at 14K while all is idle. Highly unlikely that it will interfere with your gaming.

[firzen771]

wat about wen KIS is active? lets say doing a scan or while your doing stuff at your computer?

*EDIT*

i read that KIS memory usage jumps to nearly 60mb while scanning? but since wen its idle it so low, does that mean its real-time protection isnt all that gr8?

[Macstorm]

{QUOTE-> On this machine, WIN XP with 2 GB of memory, with just the KAV file scanner installed, KAV 7 has 2 running processes taking up 38MB RAM VM and runs very light. <-QUOTE}
yes, i would also add that kav7 runs the same 2 processes even with the 4 modules installed by default.

[ugly]

{QUOTE-> wat about wen KIS is active? lets say doing a scan or while your doing stuff at your computer?

*EDIT*

i read that KIS memory usage jumps to nearly 60mb while scanning? but since wen its idle it so low, does that mean its real-time protection isnt all that gr8? <-QUOTE}

The best thing you can do is to install KIS on your PC and see how you like it.
Remember you can configure KIS to stop AV scanning when you play your games.:thumb:

[farmerlee]

I have KIS installed on a system with 512mb ram and xp home. I only have the file/web AV part installed at the moment and its using around 10mb of ram.


Edit - I installed all components and the memory use hasn't really change a whole lot, still around 10mb.

[axfleming]

Does anyone know if KIS 7 has anti-trojan/worm and anti-keylogger capabilities?

[ugly]

{QUOTE-> Does anyone know if KIS 7 has anti-trojan/worm and anti-keylogger capabilities? <-QUOTE}

Are you joking ?
If not see for yourself on av-comparatives.
Also PDM was tested for KIS6 :
"The recent results from AV-Comparatives showed that Kaspersky Anti-Virus 6.0 provides exceptionally effective proactive protection – having detected 99% of the AV-Comparatives collection."

[axfleming]

{QUOTE-> Are you joking ?
If not see for yourself on av-comparatives.
Also PDM was tested for KIS6 :
"The recent results from AV-Comparatives showed that Kaspersky Anti-Virus 6.0 provides exceptionally effective proactive protection – having detected 99% of the AV-Comparatives collection." <-QUOTE}

I fail to see the humor in my question, as your quote doesn't explicitly say anything about Anti-Keylogger; neither does the following comparison chart from Kaspersky:

http://usa.kaspersky.com/products_services/images/KISS_V7_CompChart.jpg

[ugly]

{QUOTE-> I fail to see the humor in my question, as your quote doesn't explicitly say anything about Anti-Keylogger; neither does the following comparison chart from Kaspersky:

http://usa.kaspersky.com/products_services/images/KISS_V7_CompChart.jpg <-QUOTE}

Sorry. :P
Yes it has anti-keylogger capabilities. :thumb:

195067



P.S. Thank you for that link !

[axfleming]

{QUOTE-> Sorry. :P
Yes it has anti-keylogger capabilities. :thumb:

P.S. Thank you for that link ! <-QUOTE}

Thank you for your reply! :)

[Macstorm]

{QUOTE-> I fail to see the humor in my question, as your quote doesn't explicitly say anything about Anti-Keylogger; neither does the following comparison chart from Kaspersky:

http://usa.kaspersky.com/products_services/images/KISS_V7_CompChart.jpg <-QUOTE}
Kaspersky Lab publishes new report: Keyloggers - how they work and how to detect them (3.29.2007)
http://www.kaspersky.com/news?id=207575507
http://www.viruslist.com/en/analysis?pubid=204791931 (Kaspersky Lab)

[firzen771]

is paying extra for KIS really worth it? or would it be better to just buy KAV and wait for the new Comodo v3?

since u get the firewall integrated in KIS, does the AV and firewall interact, like once the packets go through the firewall does the AV scan them as they come through before they get onto ur system? just wondering cause ESS does that(pretty sure)

[Macstorm]

{QUOTE-> is paying extra for KIS really worth it? or would it be better to just buy KAV and wait for the new Comodo v3?

since u get the firewall integrated in KIS, does the AV and firewall interact, like once the packets go through the firewall does the AV scan them as they come through before they get onto ur system? just wondering cause ESS does that(pretty sure) <-QUOTE}
As for first question, it's up to you. In your case i'd surely choose the kav/comodo combo, never used suites.

I'm not sure about your second q, wait a little for a kis user's reply :)

[WSFuser]

KAV and KIS have a web antivirus that scans internet traffic if thats what youre referring to.

[firzen771]

not quite, in ESS thers already a web filter that does that, but wen packets are going through your firewall, does the AV section scan each of those packets to make sure thers no viruses before it gets onto your computer, so does the firewall and the AV communicate when something is being downloaded to ur system? or do they work separetly but are just provided in the same suite?

i forget wer this was posted, but it was somewer in the ESS forum

[zfactor]

so what does the full kis suite use mem wise while running and at idle?? thanks

[ugly]

{QUOTE-> so what does the full kis suite use mem wise while running and at idle?? thanks <-QUOTE}

Not much as you can see (avp.exe) :


195083

[Coolio10]

{QUOTE-> Not much as you can see (avp.exe) :


195083 <-QUOTE}

Wow, are you sure all modes arent off?
No firewall/antivirus alone can get that low.

[ugly]

{QUOTE-> Wow, are you sure all modes arent off?
No firewall/antivirus alone can get that low. <-QUOTE}

I didn't use parental control but this is with all modules on :

195086


Never belive what others say , try it yourself. ;)

[Coolio10]

Why is everyone else saying 19-30mb?

[zfactor]

wow really?? man if it was not for the chkdsk issue id be def trying this out

[firzen771]

i have installed KIS 7, it is lighter than ESS, but ive noticed that web browsing has slowed down by quite a bit, in total both processes run at a combined mem usage of 20k or less. ive noticed that scan speeds are very slow, it takes much much longer to complete a scan!

does anyone know a guide for optimal performance/security settings? NOD32 had one, is ther one for KIS 7?

*EDIT*

BTW, how do u schedule system scans?

[zfactor]

can anyone else confirm the slow net speds with kis over either ess or avira?? thanks

[starter15]

{QUOTE-> can anyone else confirm the slow net speds with kis over either ess or avira?? thanks <-QUOTE}

i think depending on the setting then Kaspersky will scan images etc. in the webpage before it loads, which increases the time.

[firzen771]

yes i had all the web AV to max protect on ESS aswell, set to scan ALL web traffic and images and wat not, same with KIS, its not a huge deal, just saying i noticed a bit of a difference in speed between them

but wat really bothers me with KIS/KAV is the excruciatingly slow scan speeds!!! and how do u schedule a scan with KIS 7

[ugly]

{QUOTE-> and how do u schedule a scan with KIS 7 <-QUOTE}

195093

[ugly]

{QUOTE-> wow really?? man if it was not for the chkdsk issue id be def trying this out <-QUOTE}

I never had chkdsk issue and I never run it "on demand".
You can make an image of your system , try KIS , and saftely return to previous state if you want to.(btw , it's always good to have a clean copy;) )

[fce]

{QUOTE-> Why is everyone else saying 19-30mb? <-QUOTE}

mine is almost 19MB when my outlook/YM/firefox are open and running....but if my system is idle KIS eat only ~7MB :thumb:

PS.
Setting:
- Firewall: Training mode
- Web AV: Maximum
- Scan: Maximum (Heuristic Analyzer: Detail)
- Others: Default

[TJP]

KIS 7 is quite an amazing program in many ways. I can vouch that KIS uses around 8MB at idle on my XP Pro based machine.

The only other AV that I've found as light on resources is AntiVir PE Premium.

Cheers.

[firzen771]

yes i do like how KIS is very light, but the scan speeds are terrible, maybe in KIS 8 that will be improved

[Sjoeii]

The program is lighter than ESS , I'm not sure on Avira.

Scan speed will be a big improvement due to the new engine. especially when you have a dual core. than it will be more that twice as fast

[fce]

{QUOTE-> yes i do like how KIS is very light, but the scan speeds are terrible, maybe in KIS 8 that will be improved <-QUOTE}

70GB/250GB HDD scan time is ~40mins.

Scan setting is max (heuristic analyzer is Detail)

[zfactor]

yeah im no so concerned about scan speeds i start it and walk away unless i have to answers a question. at this price i may just try it out

[firzen771]

i have 500gb HD, 100GB used, scan wet everything to max, took quite a while, that was the only thing i didnt like, yes this is much lighter than ESS(not sure about EAV, havent tried) ESS full scan on max took under 30 mins, somewer in the 20's, KIS 7 takes double if not more than that time than ESS did to scan same amount of space, so i cant wait for KIS 8 :D