Life on Mars?

[Uguel707]

I wonder if they will ever find real evidence that Life existed on Mars.

This is an interesting PDF document about the NASA's 2003 strategic plan. Nice pictures in it too! Not particularly on Mars mission only but rather a general overview of space projects.

http://www.nasa.gov/pdf/1968main_strategi.pdf

Cheers! :)


Uguel

[Dan Perez]

Very good stuff Uguel :)

I've always been fascinated by space exploration! And, more and more, NASA is putting up better resources on the results of the exploration.

Here is NASA's main site on the Mars Mission and what they have found thus far

http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/home/index.html

As to alien Life on Mars, I hope we get some sort of answer soon, but we have ample proof of the existence of alien life on Earth ;)

[bigc73542]

As many million years that it has been there and being closer to the sun than most of the other planets there is a possibility.

[Uguel707]

Hey Dan,


a'hem...

Actually I made the little gif from " Step-by-Step Guide to Entry, Descent, and Landing" page from the site you posted. :)


from bigc

-{ Quote: "As many million years that it has been there and being closer to the sun than most of the other planets there is a possibility." }-

Right. They might find evidence one day.......That's one of the most fascinating issues in Science. (Well, to me ;))


Uguel

[bigc73542]

Maybe in our lifetime we will be able to take our vacation at the Mars Hilton. ;)

[Uguel707]

-{ Quote: " quoting: bigc73542 link=board=27;threadid=18987;start=0#msg116694 date=1073354127]
Maybe in our lifetime we will be able to take our vacation at the Mars Hilton. ;)
" }-

Quite right! :D


Uguel

[Q Section]

We prefer staying at the Sheraton.

[bigc73542]

And I bet you prefer your martinis shaken not stirred :D

[subratam]

rewrwe feferf fewfewffg ferf3eg3g fewf fef3f3 f3f...
ok ok ya i will tell them dun worry
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never mind
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cya
hey i was just talkin with marson .. the oldest person in Mars... he says there we have a head office of wilders..... and i doubt anybody knoz that here... >:( shud have been told... by someone... i bet someone here also knoz bout it
or it was kept secret for some cause??

[GoonMan]

To heck with going to Mars I would like to just go up in the Shuttle One time.


But if a trip to the Mars Holiday Inn came up I would go. ;D ;D

[Wayne - DiamondCS]

When i think about the deep-ocean hydrothermal vents that leak poisonous gas and the creatures that live around it, plus the thousands (millions?) of species that call the desert home, Mars all of a sudden seems strangely hospitable (http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/press/spirit/20040106a/PIA04995_br2.jpg) ... :)

[beetlejuice]

Space exploration has always interested me, especially with the visions that television and the movies have dared to imagine. Wondering if something as grand as Startrek may come to pass in our lifetime. There is always the possibility that it could happen within the next 50-100 years. Who knows. Some incredable leap in technology may make it possible in 10 years. In fact, some of the technology isn't all that far away. I remember seeing it on the net that Dutch scientists have actually created a transporter device using the theories of quantum mechanics. It doesn't work exactly the same as in ST, but it's a start. I think the biggest hurtle is going to be breaking the speed of light barrier if it is even possible. Einsteins theory says it can't be done, and we're not even close to going at the speed of light (186,000 miles per second) and until we can acheive such speeds, all of our exploration will have to be limited to our own solar system, and the inner most planets at that. I'd like to go to the moon, Mars, and where ever else. But as for right now, I think we'll all have to wait a little longer, unless you've got $20 million to pay the Russians for a round trip ticket into orbit. A little too rich for my wallet. Too bad isn't it? To be so close and yet so far.

[bigc73542]

Just for general knowledge a tacyhon can excede the speed of light by as much as three times by passing through a controlled vacume. If a natural occuring object can excede the speed of light I am sure some scientist somewhere will do it eventually. :o

[Uguel707]

-{ Quote: " quoting: beetlejuice link=board=27;threadid=18987;start=0#msg117465 date=1073521746]
Space exploration has always interested me, especially with the visions that television and the movies have dared to imagine. Wondering if something as grand as Startrek may come to pass in our lifetime. There is always the possibility that it could happen within the next 50-100 years. Who knows. Some incredable leap in technology may make it possible in 10 years. In fact, some of the technology isn't all that far away. I remember seeing it on the net that Dutch scientists have actually created a transporter device using the theories of quantum mechanics. It doesn't work exactly the same as in ST, but it's a start. I think the biggest hurtle is going to be breaking the speed of light barrier if it is even possible.
>snipe........... " }-



I fully agree with your post BJ, :)

"Science may once again follow the path of science fiction"

Arthur C. Clark used it in one of his early stories.... ;)

Read yesterday, from the same link above:

Why Mars ?

Outside of the Earth-Moon system, Mars is the most hospitable body in the solar system for humans and is currently the only real candidate for future human exploration and colonization. Mars offers the opportunity for in-situ (In the original position)source utilization providing air for the astronauts to breathe and fuel for their surface rovers and return vehicle (this will be discussed in further detail later). Mercury is far too close to the Sun (radiation and temperature extremes) and has almost no atmosphere, Venus is far too hot (avg. 500oC) and the surface pressures are extreme, the gas giants (Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune) do not provide a surface on which to land (at least until the pressure is far too great!), and Pluto is far too cold and distant. ;) Some of the moons of Jupiter (eg. Europa) and Saturn (eg. Titan) are interesting targets in the search for life elsewhere in the solar system, but they are much farther away and far more inhospitable than Mars.


In August of 1992, a "Why Mars" workshop was held in Houston, Texas. Six major elements behind the motivation for human Mars exploration were introduced by a consultant team consisting of 16 professionals from across the country...

1) Human Evolution - Mars is the next logical step in the expansion of the human race into the stars.

2) Comparative Planetology - by understanding Mars and its evolution as a planet, a better understanding of Earth will be achieved.

3) International Cooperation - an international Mars exploration effort has the potential to bring about a sense of global unity as never seen before.

4) Technological Advancement - the development of new and improved technologies for the Mars mission will enhance the lives of those on Earth while encouraging high-tech industry.

5) Inspiration - the human Mars exploration mission will test our technological abilities to their maximum. The ingenuity of the mobilized populace will be tested and our accomplishments will serve to inspire future generations. A common focus will unite people from around the world as they expand the envelope of achievability.

6) Investment - the cost of a crewed Mars exploration mission is reasonable when compared with the costs of other current societal expenditures.


Of course, statement no: 6 is debatable ::)

The entire topic of Mars exploration is captivating though. :)


Uguel


source: http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/planetary/mars/marswhy.html

[Uguel707]

-{ Quote: " quoting: bigc73542 link=board=27;threadid=18987;start=0#msg117523 date=1073532732]
Just for general knowledge a tacyhon can excede the speed of light by as much as three times by passing through a controlled vacume. If a natural occuring object can excede the speed of light I am sure some scientist somewhere will do it eventually. :o
" }-

very interesting...

It's quite paradoxical that "when they lose energy they gain speed" !

Apparently though they are still hypothetical?

extract from Guru Net:

tachyon , hypothetical elementary particle that travels only at speeds exceeding that of light. According to the theory of relativity, the speed of light is the limiting velocity for all ordinary material particles. Particles having nonzero rest mass can approach, but not reach, the speed of light, since their mass would become infinite at that speed. On the other hand, particles with zero rest mass, such as the photon and the neutrino, must always travel at the speed of light; they cannot be brought to rest or even slowed down. Theorists have argued that since nothing in principle prohibits the existence of a third class of particles that travel only at speeds exceeding that of light, such particles, called tachyons [Gr. tachys,=swift] may exist although no evidence for them has been found. In the terminology of the theory, the particles that travel only at the speed of light are called luxons, and those that travel at lesser speeds are called tardyons. Like the original theory of relativity, the theory of tachyons has several aspects that appear to contradict common sense but that are fully self-consistent. For example, a tachyon must have an imaginary (in the mathematical sense) rest mass, or proper mass, and it must travel faster rather than slow down when it loses energy.


Maybe they travel too fast ! ;D


Uguel

[bigc73542]

Lets say for instance we could excede the speed of light in my toyota x31 space ship and we were going to andromeda. Now if we get to far from a star or a sun to use as a light source and we are going at twice the speed of light If we turn on the headlights does any light come out of them since we are going twice as fast as the light from the head lights ??? ??? ???

[Uguel707]

Well, you made me think of a gif I made 2 weeks ago...

Consider this an experiment to find the solution to your question ;)



Uguel

[bigc73542]

At the big particle accelerator in Georgia they tracked three tacyhons in a controlled vacume in october 2003. I wonder what it cost to fire up the accelerator seeing as how it is the size of eight city blocks

[bigc73542]

Light will still come out but in a red shift. ;) by the way,that is a nice gif.

[Uguel707]

nice gif! :)


Oh! So they did prove it then. The data from Gurunet was from an Encyclopedia published earlier in 2003. Thanks for the info! ;)




Uguel

[GoonMan]

This is getting very interesting. ;D

[beetlejuice]

Well, if normal matter (for lack of a better term)(the matter that surronds us) can only travel at speeds up to light speed, and tachyons can travel at speeds beyond light speed, (basically the complete opposite)(+ - so to speak) could we be safe in giving them the following terms---
Matter and Anti-matter.

Even if a balance could be achieved to produce such speeds (in some kind of engine)one problem would remain-Time Displacement. The closer any moving object comes to the speed of light-the more time slows down for the moving object and any passengers. Time passage for stationary objects remains the same to the stationary people. It's commonly called the Doppler Effect. That's why the sound of a horn sounds different when it passes you than it did before it passed you. It would be the sound equivalent of a red shift.
It was proven after our manned flights to the moon that the astronauts aged 300 milliseconds slower than everyone here on earth. So, if someone were to go at the speed of light, time would obviously slow down dramatically for them. Theoretically, on a 5 year trip, they might actually only age 2 years, but everyone here on earth might age for 100 years.
On the opposite end, if light speed were exceeded, would time be reversed for the traveler, where by he would be younger when he got to his destination than he was when he left? Maybe if the trip were long enough, would he just keep getting younger and younger until time reversed to before his birth?

[bigc73542]

It wouldn't be a fountain of youth but you could out live your enemies if you had any. Or your creditors. ;D As long as you didn't get to young to remember which was the return home button.

[bigc73542]

You know that Mars is just 34.65 million miles away. Even at the speed of light(186.000 miles a second) it would still take 21 minutes to get to mars if you started at the speed of light. Can you imagine the fuel bill for just that short a trip.


http://www.space.com/spacewatch/mars_progress_030808.html

[Uguel707]

-{ Quote: " quoting: beetlejuice link=board=27;threadid=18987;start=15#msg117897 date=1073604978]
Well, if normal matter (for lack of a better term)(the matter that surronds us) can only travel at speeds up to light speed, and tachyons can travel at speeds beyond light speed, (basically the complete opposite)(+ - so to speak) could we be safe in giving them the following terms---
Matter and Anti-matter.

Even if a balance could be achieved to produce such speeds (in some kind of engine)one problem would remain-Time Displacement. The closer any moving object comes to the speed of light-the more time slows down for the moving object and any passengers. Time passage for stationary objects remains the same to the stationary people. It's commonly called the Doppler Effect. That's why the sound of a horn sounds different when it passes you than it did before it passed you. It would be the sound equivalent of a red shift.
It was proven after our manned flights to the moon that the astronauts aged 300 milliseconds slower than everyone here on earth. So, if someone were to go at the speed of light, time would obviously slow down dramatically for them. Theoretically, on a 5 year trip, they might actually only age 2 years, but everyone here on earth might age for 100 years.

>snipe

" }-

Hi BJ!


The idea of interstellar travel brings lots of fascinating possibilities into play. :) And theories abound. Those of you who read Science Fiction books may have heard of Bussard Ramjets which are theoretical interstellar engines that can move at significant fractions of the speed of light. If you google for it you will find many links but here is one with a decent description and diagram...

http://woodmansee.com/science/rocket/r-interstellar/r-interstellar-18.html

On a lighter note... ;)

Am I seeing things or is there a smiley in this martian landscape? :D

http://www.space.com/php/multimedia/imagedisplay/img_display.php?pic=happy_face_021203_02.jpg




Uguel :)

[LowWaterMark]

-{ Quote: " quoting: Uguel707 link=board=27;threadid=18987;start=15#msg117940 date=1073611454]Am I seeing things or is there a smiley in this martian landscape? :D " }-

Cool, a Smiley-friendly planet! http://www.wilderssecurity.com/images/icons/icon14.gif

[beetlejuice]

-{ Quote: "
Am I seeing things or is there a smiley in this martian landscape? :D





Uguel :)

" }-

Wow, so that's where they came from? ??? ;)

[bigc73542]

Just as long as the mars rover watches out where it is going.

[bigc73542]

In regard to the Bussard Ramjet, Nasa played around with the idea of a bussard type engine but instead of a magnetic scoop they were thinking about a really huge sail like a reverse parachute to scoop up hydrogen. Unfortunatlly the downside to the bussard engine is that the exaust would be highly radioactive. A little detrimental to any life forms that might be found :(

[beetlejuice]

-{ Quote: "really huge sail like a reverse parachute to scoop up hydrogen. " }-

really hugh=1 mile in diameter. :o

[bigc73542]

If memory serves me right I believe it was 3000 feet across. The thing about that kind of engine is that the faster you go, the faster you go. And spewing radioactive waste for millions of miles isn't very cool either >:(

[Uguel707]

-{ Quote: " quoting: beetlejuice link=board=27;threadid=18987;start=15#msg117944 date=1073611988]
-{ Quote: "
Am I seeing things or is there a smiley in this martian landscape? :D

Uguel :)

" }-

Wow, so that's where they came from? ??? ;)" }-

Hey Beetlejuice!

Right! That's where they all originated!
And now that the internet users are in short supply of smilies NASA is in charge of harvesting new ones from Mars....

...and all for the very good price of just a few billion $$$ :P


To bigc,

Also...

Jules Verne, a French author in the 1860s, wrote a fictional account of travelling to the moon.
"De la Terre à la Lune" 1865.

That link has texts in the original French as well as in English translation.


http://jv.gilead.org.il/works.html


Uguel :)

[bigc73542]

Is that the one where they shot a giant cannon shell with people in it to the moon and hit it in the eye.

[Uguel707]

-{ Quote: " quoting: bigc73542 link=board=27;threadid=18987;start=30#msg117968 date=1073615125]
Is that the one where they shot a giant cannon shell with people in it to the moon and hit it in the eye.
" }-

Yes! You've hit the bull's eye (or rather moon's eye)!


Uguel :D

[Wayne - DiamondCS]

http://seawifs.gsfc.nasa.gov/OCEAN_PLANET/HTML/ps_vents.html

-{ Quote: "The giant tube worm is one of the most conspicuous members of a diverse community that forms around hydrothermal vents. Scientists once thought that no living thing could survive the harsh combination of toxic chemicals, high temperatures, high pressures, and total darkness at these vents. But in 1977, researchers diving in Alvin discovered tube worms and other bizarre organisms thriving at a vent off the Galapagos Islands. Similar communities have since been found at several hundred hot spots around the world. These creatures are like nothing else on Earth." }-

So don't tell me that Mars is inhospitable -- it's just a walk in the desert compared to a hydrothermal vent ;)

[bigc73542]

I have watched a few shows that featured exploration of under water thermal vents. There are some really tough creatures that live in that heat and poison gases.

[spydespiser]

Life On Mars?

Oooh maybe we find out :D

Yahoo finally decided to fix their server so now i can get back in >:(
(Couldnt even backdoor my email with other browsers this time)

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/040109/325/eiotu.html

[subratam]

hmm... is thr life on mars?? .. may b...

[Uguel707]

-{ Quote: " quoting: Wayne - DiamondCS link=board=27;threadid=18987;start=30#msg117974 date=1073617156]
http://seawifs.gsfc.nasa.gov/OCEAN_PLANET/HTML/ps_vents.html

-{ Quote: "The giant tube worm is one of the most conspicuous members of a diverse community that forms around hydrothermal vents. Scientists once thought that no living thing could survive the harsh combination of toxic chemicals, high temperatures, high pressures, and total darkness at these vents. But in 1977, researchers diving in Alvin discovered tube worms and other bizarre organisms thriving at a vent off the Galapagos Islands. Similar communities have since been found at several hundred hot spots around the world. These creatures are like nothing else on Earth." }-

So don't tell me that Mars is inhospitable -- it's just a walk in the desert compared to a hydrothermal vent ;)

" }-

Hey Wayne,

This is the first time I've heard about these hardy creatures ....
Its amazing how they can survive so deep in the ocean, away from the light and under extreme conditions. :o


______________________________________________


Hi Spydespiser,

long time no see! :)

Hope you have solved your problems by now!

Yes, I saw about your link, it's "en route" :D

_________________________________________________

Hey, nice gif Subratam! :D




Uguel

[subratam]

-{ Quote: " quoting: Uguel707 link=board=27;threadid=18987;start=30#msg118268 date=1073717064]

_________________________________________________

Hey, nice gif Subratam! :D




Uguel

" }-
thx uguel,
:) i think i have a breathtaking proof of life on mars..... maybe the people concerned will get some help... and help in gettin... steps forward

[spydespiser]

-{ Quote: "Hi Spydespiser,

long time no see!

Hope you have solved your problems by now! " }-

Hi uguel, thx,like ur new gifs u doin by the way, hi to all the others also,Bj,Peaches,Acadia,snap,LWM,Pieter,Blaze,paul (Ooh the list endless,u all great people) :)

yeah it been a while, what with refereeing the "children"(some behave that way anyhow lol) ;D at online gaming,security issues of my own,illness,Yahoo probs :-X

i lurked now n then just to try keep abreast of things but just couldnt keep up with u guys sometimes(always about 50 posts out trying to remember everything ;D)Hope u all had a good chrimbo/new year

Anyhow,enough hogging thread ::)

cya all soon

SpyD 8)

P.s Belated Congrats to Snowbound,if i remember rightly he joined us about the same time i disappeared into the twiglet zone,but i seen all the help/info finding he been doing for peeps, Job well done SnowB ;)

[Cochise]

Don't talk to me about "MARS", they are why I weigh 13 Stone 3 Lbs.......my wife is now talking about buying me a Training Bra.....What's all this about a Planet thingy?.....is that where Mars are made?

Cochise, 8) ::)

[beetlejuice]

-{ Quote: "
Don't talk to me about "MARS", they are why I weigh 13 Stone 3 Lbs......." }-

Sounds like you should join CA..Chocoholics Anonymous. Bet you thought I was going to say Cochice Anonymous didn't you? ???

-{ Quote: "my wife is now talking about buying me a Training Bra....." }-

That's way too much information. :o Man, to get over that I think I'm going to have to indluge in some Mars bars. Ummmmm Chocolate. Burrrrppppp! :P

[Uguel707]

-{ Quote: " quoting: Cochise link=board=27;threadid=18987;start=30#msg118368 date=1073753780]


Don't talk to me about "MARS", they are why I weigh 13 Stone 3 Lbs.......my wife is now talking about buying me a Training Bra.....What's all this about a Planet thingy?.....is that where Mars are made?

Cochise, 8) ::)
" }-

Cochise,

Sorry I'm late, I was attacked by hordes of viruses (of the biological variety) :(

There's no reason to make your tribe pals embarassed anymore....

There's a nice place I know up there where you can lose as many
pounds as you want... Put a tracksuit on and start jogging on the Milky
Way, once you complete the full 360-degree circuit I can guarantee that you will never hear about the training-bra any more.
Not sure if we would be able to see you again but all the "extra-pounds" will be gone for sure.

Take my word.



Uguel 8)

[beetlejuice]

-{ Quote: " There's a nice place I know up there where you can lose as many
pounds as you want... Put a tracksuit on and start jogging Uguel 8)" }-

Yes Cochise. Start jogging to Canada so you can shovel Uguels driveway. You're guarenteed to lose as many pounds as you want. Dress warm though. I've heard the temp's about -45F. No, and don't wimp out and go hiding in Detox's nice warm bunker either.
Oh Uguel. Please take care of yourself. Don't freeze on us. We'd miss you terribly. :'(

[Uguel707]

-{ Quote: " quoting: beetlejuice link=board=27;threadid=18987;start=30#msg120319 date=1074219499]
-{ Quote: " There's a nice place I know up there where you can lose as many
pounds as you want... Put a tracksuit on and start jogging Uguel 8)" }-


Yes Cochise. Start jogging to Canada so you can shovel Uguels driveway. You're guarenteed to lose as many pounds as you want. Dress warm though. I've heard the temp's about -45F. No, and don't wimp out and go hiding in Detox's nice warm bunker either.
Oh Uguel. Please take care of yourself. Don't freeze on us. We'd miss you terribly. :'(
" }-

Hello BJ,
Always nice to talk to you! ;)

We have many many driveways around here that need to be cleared... ;)
It is cold. And now we have very stong winds...so he'd better hold tight to his raven feather if he doesn't want it to fly to Newfoundland.....


Uguel :D

[snowbound]

-{ Quote: " quoting: Uguel707 link=board=27;threadid=18987;start=45#msg120323 date=1074220881]
We have many many driveways around here that need to be cleared... ;)" }-

We got a few over here too Uguel! :D

-{ Quote: "It is cold. And now we have very stong winds..." }-

Gonna be a bitter night here in Toronto, predicting -30C! :o


Stay warm over there in La Belle Province, Uguel 8)





snowbound

[Uguel707]

-{ Quote: " quoting: snowbound link=board=27;threadid=18987;start=45#msg120326 date=1074222222]
-{ Quote: " quoting: Uguel707 link=board=27;threadid=18987;start=45#msg120323 date=1074220881]
We have many many driveways around here that need to be cleared... ;)" }-

We got a few over here too Uguel! :D

-{ Quote: "It is cold. And now we have very stong winds..." }-
Gonna be a bitter night here in Toronto, predicting -30C! :o
Stay warm over there in La Belle Province, Uguel 8)
Snowbound
" }-

I bet you do have driveways to clear! :D

I know Toronto a bit, I lived there (long ago) for 6 months... ;)
In Willowdale to be precise...I noticed that the winters overthere are milder!

La Belle province?
They should say "La Froide Province"
(froide=cold) ;)

BBFN,

Uguel

[bigc73542]

It sounds like you better stock up on hot choclate and thermal underwear. ;)

[snowbound]

I guess u don't see much of this type of weather down in Oklahoma eh bigc ;) :D







snowbound

[beetlejuice]

-{ Quote: "Gonna be a bitter night here in Toronto, predicting -30C! :o

Good God snowbound. I guess your name fits. How cold is that in Fahrenheit? -45?



















" }-

[bigc73542]

We have had a very mild winter so far. It should have have already been below zero but who knows, Trying to out guess the weather will drive you nuts most of the time :P It won't get below fourty five degrees tonight with light rain. And speaking of rain if you have any extra we sure could use it :D

[snowbound]

-{ Quote: " quoting: bigc73542 link=board=27;threadid=18987;start=45#msg120346 date=1074225954]
. And speaking of rain if you have any extra we sure could use it :D
" }-

Rain no, snow yes! :D






snowbound

[bigc73542]

Back in 1965 I was in Korea and they had a blizzard come down out of China The wind chill was ninty five below zero and the real temp was a toasty sixty below. If I think about it very much I think I can still feel it.

[bigc73542]

Well we could melt the snow if we could get it down here ???

[snowbound]

-{ Quote: " quoting: bigc73542 link=board=27;threadid=18987;start=45#msg120349 date=1074226259]
Well we could melt the snow if we could get it down here ???
" }-

I'll send the trucks ;) :D





snowbound

[bigc73542]

We will be waiting on the trucks ;)

[snowbound]

:D :D :D

Will arrive sometime tomorrow. ;)






snowbound

[bigc73542]

will make sure that a statue is erected at the roadside park to commemerate this historic ocassion. ;D

[snowbound]

-{ Quote: " quoting: bigc73542 link=board=27;threadid=18987;start=45#msg120357 date=1074227265]
will make sure that a statue is erected at the roadside park to commemerate this historic ocassion. ;D
" }-

WoW, thanks bigc ;)

We're always happy to help out our american neighbors. ;D





snowbound

[snowbound]

-{ Quote: " quoting: beetlejuice link=board=27;threadid=18987;start=45#msg120344 date=1074225305]
Good God snowbound. I guess your name fits. How cold is that in Fahrenheit? -45?" }-

I'm not sure BJ, but i do know that they both meet at -40C :o





snowbound

[FanJ]

Mars and your printer ;)

Karen's latest Newsletter:
http://www.karenware.com/newsletters/2004/2004-01-16.asp

Saying "Hi" to Karen and thanking her for all her programs.

[beetlejuice]

-{ Quote: "
I'm not sure BJ, but i do know that they both meet at -40C :o





snowbound





















" }-
I kind of thought they might meet somewhere, but wasn't sure. :-\ I pulled up a conversion chart and it looks like they meet at -30C/F. I guess what they are trying to say, is that after -30, it doesn't really matter anymore. Who would want to care? You're brain is probably frozen by then anyway. :o

[subratam]

BJ,
what is happening out here...celsius/fahrenheit.... come on man... you can do it

[beetlejuice]

I wonder what the scientist's at NASA will do if the rover encounters one of those signs? :-\
WARNING, WARNING. It does not compute. ::)

[bigc73542]

That looks like a normal Oklahoma road sign to me. :D

[Uguel707]

-{ Quote: " quoting: beetlejuice link=board=27;threadid=18987;start=60#msg120630 date=1074296657]
I wonder what the scientist's at NASA will do if the rover encounters one of those signs? :-\
WARNING, WARNING. It does not compute. ::)
" }-



Hey BJ!



Nothing to what they would do if they found these... :D



Uguel

[beetlejuice]

-{ Quote: "Hey BJ!



Nothing to what they would do if they found these... :D



Uguel
" }-

My mommy won't allow me to use words like that on the internet. Besides, I don't think there would be enough underwear in the whole world if that were to happen. ;D ;D ;)

[DolfTraanberg]

That intelligent alien creatures exist has been proved without any doubt by the fact that they haven't made contact with us yet.
Dolf

[beetlejuice]

-{ Quote: "That intelligent alien creatures exist has been proved without any doubt by the fact that they haven't made contact with us yet.
Dolf
" }-

No doubt they're ahead of us by 1,000,000 years! :D

[Uguel707]

from beetlejuice
-{ Quote: "My mommy won't allow me to use words like that on the internet. Besides, I don't think there would be enough underwear in the whole world if that were to happen. " }-

No, no, no, if we find some of those strangers we just got to keep our heads and stay cool.



Uguel :)

[Uguel707]

-{ Quote: " quoting: Dollefie link=board=27;threadid=18987;start=60#msg120680 date=1074305235]
That intelligent alien creatures exist has been proved without any doubt by the fact that they haven't made contact with us yet.
Dolf
" }-

Definitely! And I want to add that when something appears to be or, in fact, is beyond our current state of knowledge it doesn't necessarily follow that it doesn't exist.
Only our own limitations make the world look smaller than it really is and diminish our expectations accordingly.


Uguel :)

[beetlejuice]

-{ Quote: "
No, no, no, if we find some of those strangers we just got to keep our heads and stay cool.



Uguel :)



" }-

Well, I could and you could, but could those scientist's at NASA who think they're smarter* than anybody else, keep their cool?


*What was that they said at first about the Columbia, they preached for months that the foam insulation absolutely, positively, could not have caused the accident! Then they tested it later (to prove that it didn't) by firing it out of a cannon at 500MPH at a shuttle wing, and to everybodies complete shock, ended up with a 1 foot diameter hole in the wing? So much for "The foam didn't damage the shuttle." I'm not putting down NASA, but they shouldn't totally discount a possibility until it's been tested and proven first.

[snapdragin]

-{ Quote: " quoting: Dollefie link=board=27;threadid=18987;start=60#msg120680 date=1074305235]
That intelligent alien creatures exist has been proved without any doubt by the fact that they haven't made contact with us yet.
Dolf
" }-

ROFL!! Dollefie, i just read that and burst out laughing....(thanks!) ;D

[Uguel707]

-{ Quote: "Well, I could and you could, but could those scientist's at NASA who think they're smarter* than anybody else, keep their cool?

*What was that they said at first about the Columbia, they preached for months that the foam insulation absolutely, positively, could not have caused the accident! Then they tested it later (to prove that it didn't) by firing it out of a cannon at 500MPH at a shuttle wing, and to everybodies complete shock, ended up with a 1 foot diameter hole in the wing? So much for "The foam didn't damage the shuttle." I'm not putting down NASA, but they shouldn't totally discount a possibility until it's been tested and proven first. " }-

Whether a NASA scientist or a security guard, sometimes fear makes us act without thinking sensibly.

We, too often, expect scientists to be "coolly professional" but that is a mistake, for human nature is unpredictable we all have shortcomings and show unexpected behaviour when facing the unknown. No two people would react exactly the same in a crisis.

We have advanced in Science but we aren't yet a "scientific civilisation". ;)


Also, not everything can be explained by science or reason. Not yet.


Uguel

[beetlejuice]

-{ Quote: "
Also, not everything can be explained by science or reason. Not yet.


Uguel


" }-
And probably never will. ;D But that's what makes life wonderous and exciting. Sometimes, I love a good mystery. :D

[Uguel707]

from Beetlejuice
-{ Quote: "And probably never will. But that's what makes life wonderous and exciting. Sometimes, I love a good mystery. " }-

So do I! :)


Uguel

[bigc73542]

I can imagine if aliens were talking to their superiors and saying that they have studied that planet for 2.000.000 years and there is no inteligent life down there.

[LowWaterMark]

-{ Quote: " quoting: bigc73542 link=board=27;threadid=18987;start=75#msg120696 date=1074310715]I can imagine if aliens were talking to their superiors and saying that they have studied that planet for 2.000.000 years and there is no inteligent life down there." }-

Look how much some of us pay for cable TV and judge for yourself whether there is intelligent life here! :-\


;D

[beetlejuice]

-{ Quote: "
Look how much some of us pay for cable TV and judge for yourself whether there is intelligent life here! :-\


;D
" }-

I still get my TV for free through the good ole rabbit ears. Thanks LWM. You really know how to make a guy feel superior. ;) ;D

[bigc73542]

I know there must not be any inteligent life here because cable tv is absolutely positively devestatingly stupendisly outragesley expensive with no other options except three channels on antenna. >:(

[LowWaterMark]

-{ Quote: " quoting: beetlejuice link=board=27;threadid=18987;start=75#msg120703 date=1074311425]Thanks LWM. You really know how to make a guy feel superior. ;) ;D " }-

Yes, well it's easy when compare to me. :P ;D

[beetlejuice]

-{ Quote: "I know there must not be any inteligent life here because cable tv is absolutely positively devestatingly stupendisly outragesley expensive with no other options except three channels on antenna. >:(
" }-

Maybe you should try moving to the big city. Our TV has improved quite a bit. We've got 11 channels now. Whooooo weeeee boy! ;D

[bigc73542]

There may not be inteligent life here but I do get 137 channels. Maybe that is why, trying to watch them all at once.

[Uguel707]

-{ Quote: " quoting: bigc73542 link=board=27;threadid=18987;start=75#msg120719 date=1074313690]
There may not be inteligent life here but I do get 137 channels. Maybe that is why, trying to watch them all at once.
" }-


That might be a problem... :D

[subratam]

-{ Quote: " quoting: Uguel707 link=board=27;threadid=18987;start=75#msg120733 date=1074318492]
-{ Quote: " quoting: bigc73542 link=board=27;threadid=18987;start=75#msg120719 date=1074313690]
There may not be inteligent life here but I do get 137 channels. Maybe that is why, trying to watch them all at once.
" }-


That might be a problem... :D
" }-

Did You say problems , Uguel... hell lot of confusions too... what are you watching now bigc73542?? the 45th episode of ten forward serial... oops maybe you are trying to find the delete button in your remote...

[bigc73542]

I am watching the reality show on channel ten forward life on mars or not ??? ;)

[Uguel707]

Hey folks! :)


Try to find a martian in this picture...

--You have to be very close to the picture...if not it won't work-- ;)


Uguel

[Dan Perez]

Looooool ! ;D ;D ;D

That impish martian probably wanted to sabotage the lander like he has most of the others recently but was a little late! :D

[bigc73542]

I don't know, it looks like he is in love. Probably with our mars rover

[Uguel707]

-{ Quote: " quoting: FanJ link=board=27;threadid=18987;start=60#msg120525 date=1074278510]
Mars and your printer ;)

Karen's latest Newsletter:
http://www.karenware.com/newsletters/2004/2004-01-16.asp

Saying "Hi" to Karen and thanking her for all her programs.
" }-

Hey Thanks Fanj for the link! :)

I download Karen's Whois and found it convenient!


Hey bigc your martian is very cool! ;D


Uguel

[beetlejuice]

The lyrics to this poem go with the Irish Drinking song comedy skit on Who's Line is it Anyway.

Oh, idee, idee, idee, idee, idee, idee, I.
The President has said,
We're going up to Mars.
How will we get there,
It's really pretty far.
We're going to have to build a ship,
I hope it's not a dream.
The United States is broke right now,
Where do we get the green.
Oh, idee, idee, idee, idee, idee, idee, I.
We need lots of money,
Yes my friends it's true.
We could always fix the shuttle,
With lots of superglue.
But we need to build a new ship,
That is what they said.
I think Wilders could do it cheaper,
Cuz they're not in the red.
Oh, idee, idee, idee, idee, idee, idee, I.
And our Wilders astronauts,
Cochise and Uguel.
We'll suit them up and blast them off,
Yep, it will be swell.
We'll watch them rocket through the sky,
As fast as can be.
We didn't send Acadia,
Cuz it would get messy.
Oh, idee, idee, idee, idee, idee, idee, I.
The ship was only built for 2,
We couldn't go for 3.
Paul's wallet wasn't deep enough,
It wasn't meant to be.
He couldn't buy the third seat,
I hope Cochise don't mind,
He didn't have no other choice,
But leave Ol' Paint behind.
Oh, idee, idee, idee, idee, idee, idee, I.
When they land on planet Mars,
They'll go explore the land.
I'm sure Uguel will say,
"This is really grand!"
She won't need a camera,
Of that you can be sure.
With her artistic talent,
She'll just paint a nice picture.
Oh, idee, idee, idee, idee, idee, idee, I.
When they do their hiking,
On the Martian soil.
I wonder what they'll find there,
It could even be some oil.
It will be a mystery,
I wonder what they'll find.
I hope they really hurry,
Cuz I'm running out of rhyme.
Oh, idee, idee, idee, idee, idee, idee, I.
On the trip back home to Earth,
I hope they get along.
6 months of traveling,
Is really pretty long.
I hope there are no arguments,
I hope there's not a fight.
Cuz if there is Ol' Detox,
Might just give Ol' Paint a light.
Oh, idee, idee, idee, idee, idee, idee, I.
And if they find a Martian,
I hope they bring him back.
I just hope he isn't,
A friend of Mr. Gack.http://www.wilderssecurity.com/attachments/gack.gif
We don't need another one,
Like him here on Earth.
My silly poems over now,
And this is all it's worth.
Oh, idee, idee, idee, idee, idee, idee, I.
Oh, idee, idee, idee, idee, ideeeee, ideeeee, Iiiiiiiiiiiii.

http://www.gifs.net/animate/a1ufo2.gif

[Uguel707]

Loooool, BJ, that is very fun! But I fear you did not show Acadia in a very good light! ;D

Cochise and I will sing it to the martians we will find there!

Uguel 8)

[beetlejuice]

-{ Quote: "Loooool, BJ, that is very fun! But I fear you did not show Acadia in a very good light! ;D
Uguel 8)
" }-

I know, I know. Just being silly. I thought about making Acadia one of the astronauts, but if he got sick on a Martian, that probably wouldn't be too good for interplanetary relations. ;) ;D

[bigc73542]

Well I have discovered why there are no rabbits on mars ;)

[subratam]

-{ Quote: " quoting: beetlejuice link=board=27;threadid=18987;start=90#msg121017 date=1074396212]
-{ Quote: "Loooool, BJ, that is very fun! But I fear you did not show Acadia in a very good light! ;D
Uguel 8)
" }-

I know, I know. Just being silly. I thought about making Acadia one of the astronauts, but if he got sick on a Martian, that probably wouldn't be too good for interplanetary relations. ;) ;D
" }-
BJ...Big..Uguel..Acadia... all here shhhh...
there must be something goin .... shhhh b safe... and do keep connectin.. over and out (and hey BJ... i am not in the Mars journey with yall :'( ?? )

[beetlejuice]

-{ Quote: "(and hey BJ... i am not in the Mars journey with yall :'( ?? )
" }-

Well, if you can convince Paul to dig a little bit deeper into his wallet, ;) you can have the third seat. ;D
http://www.gifs.net/animate/$.gif

[subratam]

-{ Quote: " quoting: beetlejuice link=board=27;threadid=18987;start=90#msg121113 date=1074434470]
-{ Quote: "(and hey BJ... i am not in the Mars journey with yall :'( ?? )
" }-

Well, if you can convince Paul to dig a little bit deeper into his wallet, ;) you can have the third seat. ;D
http://www.gifs.net/animate/$.gif
" }-
BJ...
u shudnt have done this .. after all we were good friends... you forgot me on ur way to Mars.... hmm Paul.,.. where are you... can I err... oops...

[beetlejuice]

-{ Quote: "u shudnt have done this .. after all we were good friends... you forgot me on ur way to Mars.... hmm Paul.,.. where are you... can I err... oops...
" }-

I'm really sorry sub. Paul's the one that really messed it up for you. Cheaping out on the ship design and all. He said he couldn't afford that third seat and like a fool, I believed him. Come to think of it though, he's not even going to give any prizes for getting 10,000 members. I'd call that pretty cheap. It's probably because of all the wild parties he throws. :o Don't look so surprised Paul. It's common knowledge around the forum. He'd rather have his beer than let you go to Mars. As far as picking the astronauts, I had to pick Uguel because she paints really good. Paul was too cheap to buy a decent camera. ::) With Uguel's talent, I knew we'd get some really good pictures of Mars. As far as Cochise goes, I had to pick him. It seems that it's really cold where Detox lives, and he's worried about his fuel supply. Since Detox is my friend, I couldn't let him down. Besides, Detox said he would make me a moderator if I could get him some more fuel--err--ummm--Oh Oh! :o ;)

[subratam]

-{ Quote: " quoting: beetlejuice link=board=27;threadid=18987;start=90#msg121127 date=1074439295]
-{ Quote: "u shudnt have done this .. after all we were good friends... you forgot me on ur way to Mars.... hmm Paul.,.. where are you... can I err... oops...
" }-

I'm really sorry sub. Paul's the one that really messed it up for you. Cheaping out on the ship design and all. He said he couldn't afford that third seat and like a fool, I believed him. Come to think of it though, he's not even going to give any prizes for getting 10,000 members. I'd call that pretty cheap. It's probably because of all the wild parties he throws. :o Don't look so surprised Paul. It's common knowledge around the forum. He'd rather have his beer than let you go to Mars. As far as picking the astronauts, I had to pick Uguel because she paints really good. Paul was too cheap to buy a decent camera. ::) With Uguel's talent, I knew we'd get some really good pictures of Mars. As far as Cochise goes, I had to pick him. It seems that it's really cold where Detox lives, and he's worried about his fuel supply. Since Detox is my friend, I couldn't let him down. Besides, Detox said he would make me a moderator if I could get him some more fuel--err--ummm--Oh Oh! :o ;)
" }-
and... BJ.. so am I not going ... :'( :'( plz mate... i had already bought a special gift for the people of there... think again BJ i cud come of great help... maybe u can drop out ::) ::) ;D (mate... you would forget me to become a mod... hmm... that can be a justified reason... though ;) ) Detox... are you watching....

[beetlejuice]

-{ Quote: "and... BJ.. so am I not going ... :'( :'( plz mate... i had already bought a special gift for the people of there... think again BJ i cud come of great help... maybe u can drop out ::) ::) ;D
" }-

No, no, it's not me keeping you from going! It's Paul. It really is I swear! I wouldn't lie to you. http://www.wilderssecurity.com/attachments/angel-smiley-029.gif He won't let me go either. Something about my appearance he thought might scare the Martians.

[subratam]

-{ Quote: " quoting: beetlejuice link=board=27;threadid=18987;start=90#msg121139 date=1074440647]
-{ Quote: "and... BJ.. so am I not going ... :'( :'( plz mate... i had already bought a special gift for the people of there... think again BJ i cud come of great help... maybe u can drop out ::) ::) ;D
" }-

No, no, it's not me keeping you from going! It's Paul. It really is I swear! I wouldn't lie to you. http://www.wilderssecurity.com/attachments/angel-smiley-029.gif He won't let me go either. Something about my appearance he thought might scare the Martians.
" }-
BJ..
You are NOT goin either!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hmmm.... so its Cochise,Uguel and Detox..... Paul.... Paul... ya now its really getting bad...
-{ Quote: "" }-
Paul's the one that really messed it up for you. Cheaping out on the ship design and all. He said he couldn't afford that third seat and like a fool, I believed him. Come to think of it though, he's not even going to give any prizes for getting 10,000 members. I'd call that pretty cheap. It's probably because of all the wild parties he throws. :o Don't look so surprised Paul. It's common knowledge around the forum. He'd rather have his beer than let you go to Mars. Paul was too cheap to buy a decent camera. ::)
-{ Quote: "" }-
hmm... thats a lot of... wat shud i say... unPaul like... or Paul Like??
WHY CANT I GO TOO... LOOK AT HER >:(

[beetlejuice]

-{ Quote: "hmm... thats a lot of... wat shud i say... unPaul like... or Paul Like??
" }-

I think it's entirely Paul like. Look here=http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=7030;start=60 reply #74.

[subratam]

-{ Quote: "

Unfortunately, we had to deinstall the neutrino-based accelerator. :( It wasn't that it didn't work, or that we couldn't handle getting webpages before we even asked for them, it was just Paul didn't want to pay for the 1.21 gigawatt power source it used. :-\

;D
" }-
hmm.. i joined wilders after you.. and you being experienced slowly but surely showing me some true identities ::) ...
BJ... anyways i think you also dont want to miss the chance to go to Mars... lets go...
(Paul hasnt yet come... so all that is being said... umm...err.. maybe or is true ;D ;D )
anyways... BJ.. i just got inspiration

[beetlejuice]

-{ Quote: "BJ... anyways i think you also dont want to miss the chance to go to Mars... lets go...
(Paul hasnt yet come... so all that is being said... umm...err.. maybe or is true ;D ;D )
anyways... BJ.. i just got inspiration
" }-

Ok, shhhhhh!! Be really quiet. I guess we could steal the ship. I don't know how to fly it though. Oh, wait, I bet he can--
http://members.lycos.co.uk/lostinspace_nv/lostinspace_pictures/robot.gif
I just hope he isn't one of Paul's cheap robots! If he is, we might be in trouble.

[Cochise]

Well? Am I lucky or what. The last time I was away from this place for a while when I came back I found I was Uguels' manager.
Now I come back and find I've been volunteered to take a 6 month trip with Uguel in a Space ship to Mars!!
I mean, how lucky can one man be?
As the song goes, Idee Idee Idee I'd drink to that.
So stand back you lesser beings, wimps, pukers and cry-babies and watch in awe as Captain Uguel and I reach for the Stars.

Byee, WHOOOOOOshhh! We Gone.......

Cochise, (Space cadet).

[subratam]

-{ Quote: " quoting: Cochise link=board=27;threadid=18987;start=105#msg121200 date=1074448131]

Well? Am I lucky or what. The last time I was away from this place for a while when I came back I found I was Uguels' manager.
Now I come back and find I've been volunteered to take a 6 month trip with Uguel in a Space ship to Mars!!
I mean, how lucky can one man be?
As the song goes, Idee Idee Idee I'd drink to that.
So stand back you lesser beings, wimps, pukers and cry-babies and watch in awe as Captain Uguel and I reach for the Stars.

Byee, WHOOOOOOshhh! We Gone.......

Cochise, (Space cadet).
" }-
>:( cochise,
you have been selected.. and the first thing u r doing is u r forgetting ur own role... over thr in Mars.... and then also u have forgotten Detox >:( ... u r thr as the cook... and do take care of Uguel and Detox doing all the research work... dont jump so much over there.... and see that whatever you do there must be teamwork.... and shh... some people else may also join you ::) ::)

[RJ100]

-{ Quote: " quoting: bigc73542 link=board=27;threadid=18987;start=90#msg121025 date=1074401703]
Well I have discovered why there are no rabbits on mars ;)
" }-

Marvin also has a thriving business happening :)

[Uguel707]

-{ Quote: " quoting: Cochise link=board=27;threadid=18987;start=105#msg121200 date=1074448131]

Well? Am I lucky or what. The last time I was away from this place for a while when I came back I found I was Uguels' manager.
Now I come back and find I've been volunteered to take a 6 month trip with Uguel in a Space ship to Mars!!
I mean, how lucky can one man be?
As the song goes, Idee Idee Idee I'd drink to that.
So stand back you lesser beings, wimps, pukers and cry-babies and watch in awe as Captain Uguel and I reach for the Stars.

Byee, WHOOOOOOshhh! We Gone.......

Cochise, (Space cadet).
" }-

:o

Hold on ! Hold on!

if Cochise and I go there, who's going to take care of Paint?
We can't leave him on the ground without any care...That's too cruel! :(
We should bring Paint with us.
So that he will have the distinction of being the first Martian horse...And we could gallop over the planet freely while Spirit is taking tourist photographs.... :)


Uguel (space-explorer) 8)

[subratam]

-{ Quote: " quoting: Uguel707 link=board=27;threadid=18987;start=105#msg121246 date=1074455994]
-{ Quote: " quoting: Cochise link=board=27;threadid=18987;start=105#msg121200 date=1074448131]

Well? Am I lucky or what. The last time I was away from this place for a while when I came back I found I was Uguels' manager.
Now I come back and find I've been volunteered to take a 6 month trip with Uguel in a Space ship to Mars!!
I mean, how lucky can one man be?
As the song goes, Idee Idee Idee I'd drink to that.
So stand back you lesser beings, wimps, pukers and cry-babies and watch in awe as Captain Uguel and I reach for the Stars.

Byee, WHOOOOOOshhh! We Gone.......

Cochise, (Space cadet).
" }-

:o

Hold on ! Hold on!

if Cochise and I go there, who's going to take care of Paint?
We can't leave him on the ground without any care...That's too cruel! :(
We should bring Paint with us.
So that he will have the distinction of being the first Martian horse...And we could gallop over the planet freely while Spirit is taking tourist photographs.... :)


Uguel (space-explorer) 8)



" }-
:( uguel...
u also forgot about me....

[Cochise]

Yep! Sounds good to me my Captain, so we dump Detox ( don't recall he was selected for this giant leap for Wilders kind anyway) and load good old faithful Paint, the best part about taking Paint.......(Whisper)....just on the off chance we run out of vittles......know what I mean? ;)
On a project like this, especially as it's being run on a shoe-string, one has to cover all bases...... ::) :P

Just two questions now, when is the big day and who's got the Map thingy.

Cochise, 8)

[Uguel707]

-{ Quote: " quoting: Cochise link=board=27;threadid=18987;start=105#msg121273 date=1074457928]

Yep! Sounds good to me my Captain, so we dump Detox ( don't recall he was selected for this giant leap for Wilders kind anyway) and load good old faithful Paint, the best part about taking Paint.......(Whisper)....just on the off chance we run out of vittles......know what I mean? ;)
On a project like this, especially as it's being run on a shoe-string, one has to cover all bases...... ::) :P

Just two questions now, when is the big day and who's got the Map thingy.

Cochise, 8)
" }-

I know "vittles". :) To save room we'll bring dehydrated ones only. Alas! the same for paint: dehydrated hay.
When is the big day? Well, let's see... bj has gotten a flying saucer already (see reply 91) so let him have the honour to decide the day we are going to take off. :)
The map? No need to have a map if we know how to use the telescope. (unless you mean the Martian ground) ??? Not bj though. His head spins too much I,m afraid he might lead us to a black hole instead. ;D

ANW, I'll see about it!


Uguel 8)

[Uguel707]

From Subratam

-{ Quote: " uguel...u also forgot about me.... " }-

Nay! Well there may be no more seats but you can pilot the spacecraft instead. :) Hope you have good eyesight for there will plenty of stars on our way.

Watch out for the meteors too!


Uguel ;D

[subratam]

-{ Quote: " quoting: Uguel707 link=board=27;threadid=18987;start=105#msg121320 date=1074461868]
From Subratam

-{ Quote: " uguel...u also forgot about me.... " }-

Nay! Well there may be no more seats but you can pilot the spacecraft instead. :) Hope you have good eyesight for there will plenty of stars on our way.

Watch out for the meteors too!


Uguel ;D
" }-
hmmm ..
uguel... hmm.. :'( yall are goin to Mars... leavin me.. anyways.. maybe u dunno BJ is also not goin... only u cochise and Detox...
Paul is bein cheap anyways...
its ok...
(maybe me and BJ have some plans too )
BJ..
will we be givin a visit to Moon on the way... i got the direction for that :)

[Cochise]

Excellent map Sub, that one will do for my Kapitan Uguel and her two crusty...[Delete].....Trusty space adventurers, Cadets Cochise and Paint.

Obviously all we have to do is keep the Airport and Pittsburg on our right, go straight on at the Moon for a couple of weeks and we're there, NO SWEAT!!

Paints causing a bit of a problem at the moment though, well you know how is tum plays up when he gets excited. (I wonder if you could propel a rocket with that stuff, it sure smells like rocket fuel).

Cochise, 8) ::)

[subratam]

-{ Quote: " quoting: Cochise link=board=27;threadid=18987;start=105#msg121348 date=1074466022]

Excellent map Sub, that one will do for my Kapitan Uguel and her two crusty...[Delete].....Trusty space adventurers, Cadets Cochise and Paint.

Obviously all we have to do is keep the Airport and Pittsburg on our right, go straight on at the Moon for a couple of weeks and we're there, NO SWEAT!!

Cochise, 8) ::)
" }-
hey hey... thats not fair... you will also be goin in the way me and BJ thought of.... anyways... see that over there you dun leave Paint out of hold.... cya soon
(oh one thing... just got the secret news frm the board meeting of which i showed the picture... they can be anywhere hidden..so b cautious... they are anywhere)

[bigc73542]

After you get to mars here is a map you can use to get home. ;)

[beetlejuice]

Yes Paul, we're almost ready for launch.
What?
Did I tell them about that?
Not yet. I don't think there's anything to worry about. As long as their guidence system works correctly.
What do you mean? No guidence system?
Oh no, you didn't?
Refused to pay?
But that's the most important part.
How are they going to duck the meteor storm?
You don't know.
Well maybe the robot ca--
Huh? The robot? Yes he's going.
Yeah I know. Only 2 seats.
Passenger roster? Yeah I've got it right here. Let's see?
Uguel-Captian and Pilot
Cochise-Co-Captian-Exploration specialist
Robot Model B-9-Navigation
subratam
Ol' Paint
Over weight?
Well maybe a little. I had to remove their asteroid deflector shield generator to make up for the extra weight.
Not enough?
The robot weighs what?
800 pounds?
The lasers? Well I could I guess. But what if they meet up with some hostile aliens?
They'll have to fend for themselves. Well OK.
Yeah, you're right about that. Cochise will probably have his bow and arrows.
Fit? Well, I'm not sure. 5 in a 2 person ship will be a little crowded. I'm sure they'll manage.
What? Say that again? Who's riding outside?
Well it can't be Captian Uguel, or Cochise.
The robot? NO. I'm assuming that Cochise will be able to let him ride on his lap for 6 months. If his line were to break, we'd loose our navigator.
What do you mean 12 months? Oh, I get it. You want the robot back, gotcha.
What about subratam and Paint?
Well, I guess that would be alright-if you think it's safe.
Where would you like to put it?
In back, because of what?
Methane gas? Oh from Paint! Yeah it would be better to have it at the back. Then at least the whole ship won't blow up when it ignites.
Seat belts?
Yeah, it has seatbelts. OK. I'll get it done right away.
Will sub mind? I don't know. I guess he can't mind too much. He wants too go really bad. What other choice does he have?
Ok. Let me make sure. I'll take the backseat out of my car, bolt it to the outside of the ship, and sub and Paint can ride there. Right?
OK.
Ready?
Probably in a couple of days.
OK. See you at launch.
Oh Paul? I'm really sorry I got mad at you for not picking me to go. Really with all of this uncertainty about the mission, and all the jury rigging and everything, I'm kinda glad I'm not going.
OK. Bye.
Wheeeew!!
;D

[bigc73542]

Hey bettlejuice tell Paul to send a little pocket change with you . The Hubble telescope picked up this sign on the surface of Mars.

[beetlejuice]

Hi Paul, glad you're still there. I neede--
Name? Well I hadn't really thought about a name for the ship yet.
What? Name it after a well known ship? Ok.
How's Enterprise? Like on Startrek?
No.
Ok. Jupiter2 like on Lost in Space?
Not that either. Well I can't think of anymor-
What? Well, personally, I don't really think much of that name.
Are you sure? Yeah it's famous and all but--
Well OK. I guess it does kind of fit with all of the jury rigging we're having to do to make it work.
OK Paul. TITANIC it is. :o
OK, bye.

[subratam]

yee yee yee
we are going to mars
the day has come atlast
have been waitin for many hours
yee yee yee
excited i am very much
heard bout space expeditions
but havnt experienced one such
yee yee yee yo
the land of reds and rocks
the land of wat else ???
the land of many shocks
yee yee yee
who are going else...
cochise, uguel, the robot
ooh... Paint and his bells
yee yee yee yo
will be going thru the space
wohoo... i am jumpin with joy
a totally new place
yeeo yeeo yee
bye bye bye yall
pray for us here plz...
may we discover big or small
yeeeee yeeeeeeeee
come on cochise hurry up
uguel we are waitin mate :)
hey paint and robot sup?
wow the weather is also very good
a sunny and warm afternoon
frnds here.. frends all
we will return very soon
so finally biddin farewell
do keep in contact well
and we will be givin reports
thru our space-email
wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
( Titanic :o err eek...oops..hick up..

[beetlejuice]

Don't get mad Paul. Just calm down.
Well yeah, I know,but I thought it would be the best thing too do. Actually, the test flight went really well.
Problems? No. None at all. The guidance system worked perfectly.
Took it out? Well that was before. I put everything back.
How much did it cost?
Err-umm-well you don't really want to know. It's a lot safer though. You wouldn't want anything bad to happen would you?
Good. I knew you weren't that kind of guy.
How much money?
Are you sure you wan-
OK OK. I had to sell the-umm-ah-new server.
~holds phone away from ear to keep from going deaf~
Really, it will be Ok.
I think you'll really like the new ship a lot.
New? Well yeah, kind of.
Are 5 still going? Well not exactly.
What did I do? Well it's just a little bit bigger, that's all.
How much? Well? Now it can carry 8.
Why 8?
Well we've got Uguel, Cochise, the robot, subratam, Ol, Paint and-well me.
Well I kind of figured since I kind of rebuilt the ship and all-well I deserved to go.
Other 2 seats? What about them? Who are they for?
Well just in case we find any Martians, we can bring them back.
Would you like to see a vid of the test flight?
OK. Really, it looked good. See-http://www.gifs.net/animate/rocket1.gif
Yeah. It's pretty isn't it?
TITANIC?
Well no. I scrapped that. It just wasn't right.
New name? I thought I'd let Captain Uguel name it. I'm sure she'll come up with something inspiring.
Ok. Bye.

[subratam]

-{ Quote: " quoting: beetlejuice link=board=27;threadid=18987;start=120#msg121572 date=1074526085]

and-well me.
Well I kind of figured since I kind of rebuilt the ship and all-well I deserved to go.
Other 2 seats? What about them? Who are they for?
Well just in case we find any Martians, we can bring them back.
Would you like to see a vid of the test flight?
OK. Really, it looked good. See-http://www.gifs.net/animate/rocket1.gif
" }-
heeeeeeeey BJ...
you are going yohooo ....ya mate.. u do deserve to come with us..... yohoo...
so... the final chk list in my mind....
1. Uguel -> Captain
2. Cochise -> Cadet
3. Subratam -> Secret Agent
4. BeetleJuice -> Spacecraft-Mechanic and Martian language specialist
5. 'ld Paint -> alternative to come back to earth .. if somethin goz wrong
6. Robot -> the ROBOT
7/8. ? -> ?

woho... err... be cautious... mates... i think we are landing...

[Cochise]

Your not going to believe this Space-fans but i've just remembered that the day we blast off (Whatever day that happens to be) just happens to be the day I change my library books, Pish! and I was so looking forward.

So if any other sucker...[Delete].....volunteer would like to take my place, please feel free.

Cochise, 8) (ex. Space Cadet)
PS. After reading the convs. between a certain BJ and PW Paint has also declined the offer and has now decided to take a College Grad. course reading the 'Beano'.

[beetlejuice]

-{ Quote: "

So if any other sucker...[Delete].....volunteer would like to take my place, please feel free.

Cochise, 8) (ex. Space Cadet)
PS. After reading the convs. between a certain BJ and PW Paint has also declined the offer and has now decided to take a College Grad. course reading the 'Beano'.
" }-

No, No. Cochise. Don't drop out now. We (yes I said we, I'm going too) are all about to make history. I got mad at you know who and took over the project and rebuilt the ship and fixed everything and made it even bigger. Even though Paul's mad at me, (I had to sell the new server to get the money) everything's ok now. No cheap stuff for me. Shhhhh. Don't tell Paul but I really blew a wad his money on this ship. It even has "Warp Drive"http://www.gifs.net/animate/starship.gif
Double Shhhhh. Detox and LWM also contributed. They just don't know it yet. We launch in the morning. See you at the launch pad.

[bigc73542]

They already know you guys are coming they have been watching, and monitoring wilders. You had better take some pretty glass beads or something for gifts.

[subratam]

come on.. fast... Paint what are you doin.. >:( do it fast.. Uguel.. oops Captain whats the time we will be leaving?? where are you BJ...?? BJJJJJ aah there you are ... Cochise too... what are yall discussing?? ???
come on soon...

[Uguel707]

To the crew members,


Well, well..there stg that hasn't been mentioned yet...
What about if we come across a few martians? How should we react? ???

And how would they react? We'd rather not take any chance...Let's bring them a present.... :) Stg that represents the area where we come from...
For my part I thought of bringing a bottle of maple syrup, we have tons of them in Quebec... ;D

(we've have been giving that for centuries, lol! !!!)


What about you guys?


Oh bj I'm glad you will be part of our crew, for "the more the merrier!" :)

Cochise! do not be difficult! You are really making a habit of it! Why would anyone want to go study "beano" when they have gotten the opportunity to study the captivating martian ground? Stop this foolish nonsense and please come aboard or you will be considered A.W.O.L.! 8)

Unless you have taken a secret rendez-vous with "Grisel", there is no reason to stay here. I'm afraid you are too "down-to-earth". ;D

Raise your head and see the future awaiting for us up there....


Uguel 8)

[beetlejuice]

-{ Quote: "Unless you have taken a secret rendez-vous with "Grisel", there is no reason to stay here.

Uguel 8)
" }-

Ummm. I was kind of wondering if that might be the case. Cochise, you devil!! ;)

[bigc73542]

I will try to be at the blast off and cheer you on and take a few pictures for posterity

[subratam]

hey hey....
they also love karma cookies ?? but invasion !!!>:(

[Cochise]

Paint and I have had a meeting, the outcome being, because my old pard pinto Paint makes a lot of 'Horse Sense' we "AREN'T GETTING ON THAT SHIP" and that's for no particular reason really other than we.......

DON'T WANT TO DIE

And so, with our stomachs rumbling uncontrollably, we ride off into the Sunset humming to ourselves quietly to calm our nerves.

Cochise, 8) ;)

[beetlejuice]

-{ Quote: "And so, with our stomachs rumbling uncontrollably, we ride off into the Sunset humming to ourselves quietly to calm our nerves.

Cochise, 8) ;)
" }-

Well, if that's what you really want. Be sure to say hi to Uguels mom for me. I'm sure you guys will have lots to talk about, especially watching those romantic sunsets together. ;D

[Uguel707]

From Cochise

-{ Quote: "Paint and I have had a meeting, the outcome being, because my old pard pinto Paint makes a lot of 'Horse Sense' we "AREN'T GETTING ON THAT SHIP" and that's for no particular reason really other than we.......

DON'T WANT TO DIE

And so, with our stomachs rumbling uncontrollably, we ride off into the Sunset humming to ourselves quietly to calm our nerves.
" }-

let me tell you.... ;)

Our engineers hunched over their drawings boards, ink pot and pen by their side, for years to prepare the trek carefully. They made every possible reckonings and calculations to secure our journey.... But if you decline our invitation we have no choice than leaving the place to someone else....

No worry! :) We'll send you nice pictures from up there. We have recycled an old shuttle that will drop the mail over the North continent. So if you hear lots of press rumbling about a strange parcel that fell from the sky, that will be from us. ;D

From bj

-{ Quote: "Well, if that's what you really want. Be sure to say hi to Uguels mom for me. I'm sure you guys will have lots to talk about, especially watching those romantic sunsets together. " }-

And she will sing him Wagner's Nibelungenlied:
"Das Rheingold" while the sun disappears behind the mountains....


Uguel ;D

[bigc73542]

You are going to be a long way from home so you might want to take a few necesseties, Such as TP.

[bigc73542]

since you are going to mars here is a little info I know you will want to memorize.

Mars/Earth Comparison
Bulk parameters

Mars Earth Ratio (Mars/Earth)
Mass (1024 kg) 0.64185 5.9736 0.107
Volume (1010 km3) 16.318 108.321 0.151
Equatorial radius (km) 3397 6378.1 0.533
Polar radius (km) 3375 6356.8 0.531
Volumetric mean radius (km) 3390 6371.0 0.532
Core radius (km) 1700 3485 0.488
Ellipticity (Flattening) 0.00648 0.00335 1.93
Mean density (kg/m3) 3933 5515 0.713
Surface gravity (m/s2) 3.71 9.80 0.379
Surface acceleration (m/s2) 3.69 9.78 0.377
Escape velocity (km/s) 5.03 11.19 0.450
GM (x 106 km3/s2) 0.04283 0.3986 0.107
Bond albedo 0.250 0.306 0.817
Visual geometric albedo 0.150 0.367 0.409
Visual magnitude V(1,0) -1.52 -3.86 -
Solar irradiance (W/m2) 589.2 1367.6 0.431
Black-body temperature (K) 210.1 254.3 0.826
Topographic range (km) 30 20 1.500
Moment of inertia (I/MR2) 0.366 0.3308 1.106
J2 (x 10-6) 1960.45 1082.63 1.811
Number of natural satellites 2 1
Planetary ring system No No
Orbital parameters

Mars Earth Ratio (Mars/Earth)
Semimajor axis (106 km) 227.92 149.60 1.524
Sidereal orbit period (days) 686.980 365.256 1.881
Tropical orbit period (days) 686.973 365.242 1.881
Perihelion (106 km) 206.62 147.09 1.405
Aphelion (106 km) 249.23 152.10 1.639
Synodic period (days) 779.94 - -
Mean orbital velocity (km/s) 24.13 29.78 0.810
Max. orbital velocity (km/s) 26.50 30.29 0.875
Min. orbital velocity (km/s) 21.97 29.29 0.750
Orbit inclination (deg) 1.850 0.000 -
Orbit eccentricity 0.0935 0.0167 5.599
Sidereal rotation period (hrs) 24.6229 23.9345 1.029
Length of day (hrs) 24.6597 24.0000 1.027
Obliquity to orbit (deg) 25.19 23.45 1.074
Mars Observational Parameters

Discoverer: Unknown
Discovery Date: Prehistoric

Distance from Earth
Minimum (106 km) 55.7
Maximum (106 km) 401.3
Apparent diameter from Earth
Maximum (seconds of arc) 25.1
Minimum (seconds of arc) 3.5
Mean values at opposition from Earth
Distance from Earth (106 km) 78.39
Apparent diameter (seconds of arc) 17.9
Apparent visual magnitude -2.0
Maximum apparent visual magnitude -2.91
Mars Mean Orbital Elements (J2000)

Semimajor axis (AU) 1.52366231
Orbital eccentricity 0.09341233
Orbital inclination (deg) 1.85061
Longitude of ascending node (deg) 49.57854
Longitude of perihelion (deg) 336.04084
Mean Longitude (deg) 355.45332
North Pole of Rotation

Right Ascension: 317.681 - 0.108T
Declination : 52.886 - 0.061T
Reference Date : 12:00 UT 1 Jan 2000 (JD 2451545.0)
T = Julian centuries from reference date
Martian Atmosphere


Surface pressure: 6.36 mb at mean radius (variable from 4.0 to 8.7 mb depending on season)
[6.9 mb to 9 mb (Viking 1 Lander site)]
Surface density: ~0.020 kg/m3
Scale height: 11.1 km
Total mass of atmosphere: ~2.5 x 1016 kg
Average temperature: ~210 K (-63 C)
Diurnal temperature range: 184 K to 242 K (-89 to -31 C) (Viking 1 Lander site)
Wind speeds: 2-7 m/s (summer), 5-10 m/s (fall), 17-30 m/s (dust storm) (Viking Lander sites)
Mean molecular weight: 43.34 g/mole
Atmospheric composition (by volume):
Major : Carbon Dioxide (CO2) - 95.32% ; Nitrogen (N2) - 2.7%
Argon (Ar) - 1.6%; Oxygen (O2) - 0.13%; Carbon Monoxide (CO) - 0.08%
Minor (ppm): Water (H2O) - 210; Nitrogen Oxide (NO) - 100; Neon (Ne) - 2.5;
Hydrogen-Deuterium-Oxygen (HDO) - 0.85; Krypton (Kr) - 0.3;
Xenon (Xe) - 0.08

Satellites of Mars

Phobos Deimos
Semi-major axis* (km) 9378 23459
Sidereal orbit period (days) 0.31891 1.26244
Sidereal rotation period (days) 0.31891 1.26244
Orbital inclination (deg) 1.08 1.79
Orbital eccentricity 0.0151 0.0005
Major axis radius (km) 13.4 7.5
Median axis radius (km) 11.2 6.1
Minor axis radius (km) 9.2 5.2
Mass (1015 kg) 10.6 2.4
Mean density (kg/m3) 1900 1750
Geometric albedo 0.07 0.08
Visual magnitude V(1,0) +11.8 +12.89
Apparent visual magnitude (V0) 11.3 12. ;D

[beetlejuice]

Prelaunch Log Stardate 0420.1
Need to confer with Captain Uguel. Based on this most complete and excelent planetary research report by bigc73542, my recommendation is to make him an official crew member in the position of Science Officer.
Do you concur Captain Uguel?

[bigc73542]

If captain Uguel concurs I would be honored to participate in this great venture. I even have my science officers uniform on. Live long and prosper

[Cochise]

I think it would be a very good idea to take Bigc on the Mars shot.
After reading his statistics on Mars I DO believe it will do him the world of good to get out more. ;D ;D ;D

Actually, Griselda prefers old Paint to me.....can't think why....

Cochise, 8)

[subratam]

>:( >:( >:(

will we be ever starting the journey or going to mars will b remaining as another Dream ... its ok... i get inspirations from many.. that one should dream.... whatever >:(

[beetlejuice]

-{ Quote: "
will we be ever starting the journey or going to mars will b remaining as another Dream" }-

Just waiting on word from Captain Uguel. She's in charge. We'll liftoff whenever she's ready. I think she's worried about what her mother might have gotten herself into with Cochise. :-\ "Romantic Sunsets" can sometimes lead to other things, and I don't know what Captain Uguel would think about the possibility of having to maybe refer to Cochise as "Daddy" :o after returning from Mars. A lot can happen in 12 months you know. The possibility also exists that on her return there would be a little brother or sister waiting for her. :o :o :o Please don't faint Captain, we need you. :D

[Uguel707]

-{ Quote: " quoting: bigc73542 link=board=27;threadid=18987;start=135#msg122228 date=1074655824]
If captain Uguel concurs I would be honored to participate in this great venture. I even have my science officers uniform on. Live long and prosper
" }-

Looooool bigc! and I'm glad that you put mr. Spock's picture instead of captain J-L Picard's! I always liked mr. Spock best! he had lots of charism and was very smart too!

From Cochise

-{ Quote: "
I think it would be a very good idea to take Bigc on the Mars shot.
After reading his statistics on Mars I DO believe it will do him the world of good to get out more." }-

Of course we will, since you have elegantly desisted our invitation. ;D

-{ Quote: "Actually, Griselda prefers old Paint to me.....can't think why...." }-

???
And you'd rather ride Paint than going into our spaceship, right?

From Subratam

-{ Quote: "From Subratam....

will we be ever starting the journey or going to mars will b remaining as another Dream
... its ok... i get inspirations from many.. that one should dream.... whatever
" }-

But many great projects started from a dream Sub!!! ;)




Uguel

[beetlejuice]

Chief Engineers Log: Stardate 0421.1.
All systems are green and go for liftoff. Just give the word Captain. ;D

[Uguel707]

-{ Quote: " quoting: beetlejuice link=board=27;threadid=18987;start=135#msg122547 date=1074729610]
-{ Quote: "
will we be ever starting the journey or going to mars will b remaining as another Dream" }-

Just waiting on word from Captain Uguel. She's in charge. We'll liftoff whenever she's ready. I think she's worried about what her mother might have gotten herself into with Cochise. :-\ "Romantic Sunsets" can sometimes lead to other things, and I don't know what Captain Uguel would think about the possibility of having to maybe refer to Cochise as "Daddy" :o after returning from Mars. A lot can happen in 12 months you know. The possibility also exists that on her return there would be a little brother or sister waiting for her. :o :o :o Please don't faint Captain, we need you. :D
" }-


Loooooooooooool! ;D

I'm afraid the world won't be turning the same way if I had Cochise as a "dad"! And he might not like to have an impish daughter as well!

CU on Mars!!!


Don't you think that my last gif looks like Cookie Monster?


Uguel ;D

[beetlejuice]

-{ Quote: "And he might not like to having an impish daughter as well!" }-

Impish and Sweet. Just don't let him sucker you into cleaning up after Ol' Paint.http://www.wilderssecurity.com/attachments/gack.gif



-{ Quote: "Don't you think that my last gif looks like Cookie Monster?" }-

Yes. ;) Could be a "cookie Martian" too! ;D ;D

[Uguel707]

-{ Quote: " quoting: beetlejuice link=board=27;threadid=18987;start=135#msg122555 date=1074731374]
-{ Quote: "And he might not like to having an impish daughter as well!" }-

Impish and Sweet. Just don't let him sucker you into cleaning up after Ol' Paint.http://www.wilderssecurity.com/attachments/gack.gif

" }-

Well thanks BJ!

ANW, joking apart, I always liked horses and they aren't
as smelly as other farm animals.
But if Cochise is a true Indian he won't need anyone to clean the stall. ;) And if he dare asking Griselda, she would send him to Mars just in a wink of an eye! ;D

Uguel

[bigc73542]

Cleaning out stalls and corrals looks like a lot of fun==NOT

[beetlejuice]

Chief Engineers Log Stardate 0422.1. Man, I knew I shouldn't have test fired the phasers before realigning the targeting scanners. :o
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/releases/2004/28.cfm

Oops? :-[ Sorry Captain.

[bigc73542]

So you are the one that did it! Shame Shame ;)



Now they will want you to fix it while we are up there. this is coming out of your allowance

[beetlejuice]

-{ Quote: "So you are the one that did it! Shame Shame ;) " }-
No, I didnt do it. The top of the rover is round, it looks kind of like a cookie. It was one of those "cookie Martians". Man, they're mean. :o



-{ Quote: "
Now they will want you to fix it while we are up there. this is coming out of your allowance
" }-
Not mine. Paul's. ;)

[bigc73542]

I found one of those pesky critters we can blame it on.

[GoonMan]

Looks like the Mars Rover took a wrong leap for mankind and now they have lost all communications with it.

Maybe the Martians did not like our Cameras in their play ground or the Cookie monster got it. ;D ;)

[beetlejuice]

-{ Quote: "I found one of those pesky critters we can blame it on.
" }-

Yeah. From the last picture that I saw from the rover camera, that looks like him. He even looks guilty. He's even got a milk mustache. ;D

[Uguel707]

The rover is being hampered by Martian Customs officials!!! :P




Uguel ;D

[bigc73542]

I was able with the help of the jet propulsion laboratory to get the last picture to come from the mars rover. this is hot of the press. NASA is trying to figgure out what they are looking at. But I think we know here at wilders. He is a martian car jacker or in this case a rover jacker.

[Uguel707]

-{ Quote: " quoting: bigc73542 link=board=27;threadid=18987;start=150#msg122932 date=1074828928]
I was able with the help of the jet propulsion laboratory to get the last picture to come from the mars rover. this is hot of the press. NASA is trying to figgure out what they are looking at. But I think we know here at wilders. He is a martian car jacker or in this case a rover jacker.
" }-


;D ;D ;D

[beetlejuice]

STOP THIEF!! ;)

[bigc73542]

On our trip to mars as science officer I feel it is my position to keep all flight personal informed of the technical end of the flight. Since we will be traveling at warp 7.3 I have calculated the conversion to light speed so as to keep our crew informed how fast we will actually be traveling. Our actually travel time at that speed should be around nine seconds. I hope captain Ugeul has had one heck of a good set of space brakes installed.

[bigc73542]

I got out my trusty calculater and reestimated our travel time at warp 7.3 it is alittle quicker than first estimated. About four one hundreth of a second. Don't blink or you will miss the trip.

[beetlejuice]

-{ Quote: "warp 7.3" }-

Good Heavens man. Ya can't go that bloody fast to Mars. By the time we slow her down, we'll be past it by 33,000,000 miles. No faster than Warp 2 or you be pushin her too hard.

-{ Quote: "had one heck of a good set of space brakes installed.
" }-

What are space brakes? ???

[bigc73542]

I have recalculated the speed at warp 1 which will get us there in twenty one minutes. Plenty of time to celebrate with (Pauls) special brandy. I wont tell if you won't. Attached is a copy of the flight plan for the pilot make sure the pilot sets course before the brandy ;D

[bigc73542]

In reply to the question of what are space brakes. I purchased a couple of boxes of fireworks (with pauls money) I positioned them on the nose of the ship and we light as many as needed to slow down or stop. itis quite spectacular. and just a little bit dangerous. But this is space travel

[beetlejuice]

-{ Quote: "In reply to the question of what are space brakes. " }-

Chief Engineers :og Stardate 0423.1
I've searched all over the bloody Earth internet and the closest thing I can find is something called "brakes" from something called a 1969 Chevy Nova. The computer says it was a form of transportation used in the mid 20th century.
Captain Uguel. I've been informed that crewman sub has the POX. I think we should immediatly recruit a Dr. as part of the crew.
Calling Dr. Peaches! Calling Dr. Peaches! ;) ;D

[subratam]

-{ Quote: " quoting: beetlejuice link=board=27;threadid=18987;start=150#msg123040 date=1074862308]

Captain Uguel. I've been informed that crewman sub has the POX. I think we should immediatly recruit a Dr. as part of the crew.
[b]Calling Dr. Peaches! Calling Dr. Peaches! ;) ;D

" }-

thxx :) :) :) :) :) :-* :-* (if u accept the kiss ..lol ;D )

thx a looot.. for being with me... and not leaving me behind :)
I 've got one idea... there in Mars maybe POX is somewhat they havent yet experienced... I will just give them hugs and they will soon spread it among themselves....
and we know the treatment right ;) ;D
Dr Peaches will do that healing in smoothness... and we will prove ourselves as more advanced than them .. and.. who says... what a hospitability we will be getting there ;D ;D

:-*

[Cochise]

I would'nt count on a good reception on Mars you travellers, I wouldn't be at all surprised if the little red devils had been keylogging you lot.....then you'll be sorry.

Cochise, 8)

[beetlejuice]

-{ Quote: "
I would'nt count on a good reception on Mars you travellers, I wouldn't be at all surprised if the little red devils had been keylogging you lot.....then you'll be sorry.

Cochise, 8)
" }-

Chief Engineers Log Star Date 0423.15

I wouldn't worry about being keylogged by the Martians. I've infected 1 of their Macintosh PC's (that's all they use) with Windows software, and it is now systematically destroying all of the others.
http://www.gifs.net/animate/flamewar.gif

[bigc73542]

Science officer bigc73542. It looks like you caused an electrical overload on their main frame in other words you spoiled their barrel of apples.

[bigc73542]

Memo: science officer bigc73542, Attn. Chief engineer. We seem to have developed a slight computer glitch, it has picked up a personality of it's own.

[beetlejuice]

Don't worry about the bloody thing. I've traced it to a feedback loop from NASA trying to comunicate with the malfunctioning rover. Apparently it's name is Dave. I guess they didn't see that movie. ::)

[Uguel707]

-{ Quote: "from beetlejuice" }-


-{ Quote: "Chief Engineers Log Star Date 0423.15

I wouldn't worry about being keylogged by the Martians. I've infected 1 of their Macintosh PC's (that's all they use) with Windows software, and it is now systematically destroying all of the others." }-

???

If we attack them, do not expect to be welcome anymore. We can write off any mission we had planned.






Uguel

[bigc73542]

It's just as well they are having some real bad storms on mars right now. Lightning and very strong dust storms.

[beetlejuice]

-{ Quote: "If we attack them, do not expect to be welcome anymore. We can write off any mission we had planned.


Uguel

" }-
Don't worry Captain. I used the transporter to bounce a signal off Alpha Centauri. They picked it up on the oposite side of their planet facing away from earth. They don't know where it came from. It's just a safety net for our landing. No actual harm is being done. Just general confusion.

[Uguel707]

from Beetlejuice


-{ Quote: "Don't worry Captain. I used the transporter to bounce a signal off Alpha Centauri. They picked it up on the oposite side of their planet facing away from earth. They don't know where it came from. It's just a safety net for our landing. No actual harm is being done. Just general confusion. " }-


Well... in the general confusion they might shoot us by mistake!! Are you sure that was such a good strategy?


Uguel

[bigc73542]

A signal like that leaves a doppler affect that they can not trace.

[beetlejuice]

-{ Quote: "
Well... in the general confusion they might shoot us by mistake!! Are you sure that was such a good strategy?


Uguel
" }-

Aye Captain. Since there's no way they can trace the signal, they'll just think it's some kind of software glitch. It could even be to our advantage as an offer of friendship to fix their computers.

[bigc73542]

And they are having some real problems with their computers. We got this picture of one of their comps on the last bounced signal.

[Uguel707]

And here's our new "technical assistant's taxi"!
Would you bigc or Bj be the first one to go up there?
And then tell me afterwards if it's "safe" for me to go. ;D



Uguel

[beetlejuice]

Sure it's safe. It's kind of like a roller coaster.

[bigc73542]

I would but being science officer I still have a lot of data to check on my comp. If I finnish soon enough I will be glad to.

[Uguel707]

-{ Quote: " quoting: beetlejuice link=board=27;threadid=18987;start=165#msg123326 date=1074916509]
Sure it's safe. It's kind of like a roller coaster.

" }-

well... the safety of a roller coaster sorta depends on what you've had for lunch... I'd rather not take too many chances :P


Uguel

[bigc73542]

You deffinatly don't want to puke in a space helmet. :(

[beetlejuice]

-{ Quote: "And they are having some real problems with their computers. We got this picture of one of their comps on the last bounced signal.
" }-

I think it's going to take you longer than you think. I traced the id signal from that burning computer and well, sorry to say this big c, but it's yours. You didn't by chance tap into the signal bounce did you? :o

[bigc73542]

I might have forgotten to get the last virusscan update ???

[bigc73542]

got the fire out but it still has a few bugs.

[Uguel707]

-{ Quote: " quoting: bigc73542 link=board=27;threadid=18987;start=165#msg123327 date=1074916660]
I would but being science officer I still have a lot of data to check on my comp. If I finnish soon enough I will be glad to.
" }-

All the necessary data is on reply 135! :P

[beetlejuice]

-{ Quote: " quoting: bigc73542 link=board=27;threadid=18987;start=180#msg123334 date=1074917166]
got the fire out but it still has a few bugs.
" }-
Is that what you call magic fingers? :o

[Uguel707]

-{ Quote: " quoting: bigc73542 link=board=27;threadid=18987;start=180#msg123331 date=1074916974]
You deffinatly don't want to puke in a space helmet. :(
" }-

Definitely not! :-X


Uguel

[bigc73542]

That is the offical microsoft salute ;D

[bigc73542]

Just in case we do run into aggressive aliens I have installed a new targeting computer that never misses.

[Uguel707]

Nighty nite! :)


Well I gotta go to bed now...
I'm sure i'm going to have happy dreams...maybe new gifs... ;D


Uguel

[bigc73542]

See you after your refreshing sleep. happy dreams :)

[bigc73542]

It seems as though the trip to mars may be put on hold or canceled. So I think I will see if an ex spaceship science officer can get unemployment insurance :(

[bigc73542]

Well I found out why the mars rover didn;t phone home for a while. It dislocated a hip and was having a hard time for a while.

[GoonMan]

I thought it was phoning Haliburton about all of the Oil and Gassssss on Mars. ;D ;)

[bigc73542]

Well it does have haliburton colors ;)

[Uguel707]

-{ Quote: " quoting: bigc73542 link=board=27;threadid=18987;start=180#msg123661 date=1075000421]
Well I found out why the mars rover didn;t phone home for a while. It dislocated a hip and was having a hard time for a while.
" }-



From Goonman

-{ Quote: "I thought it was phoning Haliburton about all of the Oil and Gassssss on Mars." }-


hee, hee, hee. ;D


Okay. You can see Mars TV's coverage of the Opportunity landing at this link:

http://www.nasa.gov/ram/35037main_portal.ram

Takes a couple of minutes to start off ;)


Uguel

[Dan Perez]

-{ Quote: "Okay. You can see Mars TV's coverage of the Opportunity landing at this link:

http://www.nasa.gov/ram/35037main_portal.ram" }-

Cool! I'm watching it now! Early indications are that no faults occured on landing

[Uguel707]

-{ Quote: " quoting: Dan Perez link=board=27;threadid=18987;start=195#msg123697 date=1075008259]
Snipe >

Cool! I'm watching it now! Early indications are that no faults occured on landing
" }-

I would have thought the broadcast would have been longer but it didn't take too much time in the end.


Uguel :)

[subratam]

it seems.... Mars has lots in store for us... not only in terms of unknown things but also problems

[Uguel707]

-{ Quote: " quoting: subratam link=board=27;threadid=18987;start=195#msg123828 date=1075051755]
it seems.... Mars has lots in store for us... not only in terms of unknown things but also problems
" }-

Hi SUb! Hope you are doing better! :)



But they have resurrected "Spirit" and given birth to "Opportunity." ;)

Theisinger and other NASA officials expressed relief that their roller-coaster ride had taken a sharp turn for the better, with Spirit on the mend and Opportunity in the middle of what one researcher called a "scientific jackpot."

"I came here prepared for a funeral, basically," Ed Weiler, NASA's associate administrator for space science, observed during the news conference. "Instead … we resurrected one rover and saw the birth of another today."

NASA sent Spirit to Gusev Crater, a broad depression believed to once have contained a lake. Opportunity's new home, Meridiani Planum, is a flat, smooth region that abounds in a type of iron oxide mineral called gray hematite, which typically forms in marine or volcanic environments rich in water."

from: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4042603/

Another interesting page: http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/home/index.html

Here's the biggest picture of Mars up to now. :P
Quite fascinating!

http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/press/opportunity/20040125a/Pancam_Sol1_Postcard_part.jpg



Uguel :)

[bigc73542]

The trouble with humans going to mars is that you can not afford to make even one mistake. If you break a piece of equiptment you are up the creek. To get a replacement part is impossible in time to make any difference if it is a critical piece. If you happen to get injured you could really be in trouble.If your transportation back to earth won't work You better just hope that there is a relief ship really close.Anyone that would actually go to mars Is either the bravest person around or they are awfully dedicated to the space program beyond personal safety.Becuase the space program to explore mars doesn't have a very good track record. Maybe the current program will have a better outcome than in the past. ;)

[Uguel707]

You're right, the biggest challenge is the irremediability of the situation. Which is one of the reasons they hope to do it by way of a permanent presence on the Moon. They need to establish a better knowledge and better technologies for dealing with these isolated environments. Either way, they still need to rely on the bravery and dedication of the crewmembers involved.


Uguel :)

[bigc73542]

Bravery, That is why the wilders crew decided to go. WE are brave and in shape.

[Uguel707]

-{ Quote: " quoting: bigc73542 link=board=27;threadid=18987;start=195#msg125162 date=1075344524]
Bravery, That is why the wilders crew decided to go. WE are brave and in shape.
" }-

Well hopefully, though, not as sorely afflicted by radioactive steroids as this guy!!!

Uguel 8)

[Uguel707]

He looks like a misshapen balloon overly-pumped-up by a bicycle pump!


Uguel ;D

[bigc73542]

To be truthful it was the only pic I found on short notice. If I looked like that I think I might want a little cosmetic surgery. :)

[Uguel707]

-{ Quote: " quoting: bigc73542 link=board=27;threadid=18987;start=195#msg125180 date=1075346765]
To be truthful it was the only pic I found on short notice. If I looked like that I think I might want a little cosmetic surgery. :)
" }-


I fully agree with you! ;)


Uguel ;D

[bigc73542]

Here is the proposed landing site on mars. If there are any opposing votes to this landing site please inform the crew of your proposed site.

[subratam]

lets just get into details of the landing sight

[Primrose]

I was there last year trying to get a date for sub but she blew me off. :( Next time i will try a box of chocolates.

::)

[subratam]

-{ Quote: " quoting: Primrose link=board=27;threadid=18987;start=195#msg125442 date=1075402233]
I was there last year trying to get a date for sub but she blew me off. :( Next time i will try a box of chocolates.

::)
" }-

....huuh >:( you already started up ur flirting up there on behalf of my name...
LEAVE MARS FOR EARTH'S SAKE.... ;D ;D ... ISNT EARTH ENOFF??

[beetlejuice]

-{ Quote: "I was there last year trying to get a date for sub but she blew me off. :( Next time i will try a box of chocolates.

::)
" }-

-{ Quote: "....huuh >:( you already started up ur flirting up there on behalf of my name...
LEAVE MARS FOR EARTH'S SAKE.... ;D ;D ... ISNT EARTH ENOFF??
" }-

A girl in every port=A girl on every planet...interesting concept! ;D

[bigc73542]

Could this possibly be a picture of one of Subratam's planetary girl friends.

[subratam]

-{ Quote: " quoting: bigc73542 link=board=27;threadid=18987;start=210#msg126061 date=1075527834]
Could this possibly be a picture of one of Subratam's planetary girl friends.



" }-

now.... it was hard here in here.... now dun tell Mars gals are also behind me... it another matter that i am 8) 8)


No Life on Mars, But Many Bugs !!!!! (http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,62088,00.html?tw=wn_techhead_3)

[bigc73542]

It looks like that gentleman has big problems ;D

[subratam]

now .. now.. bigc... when prim said about looking for my girlfriend.. and then BJ... u jumped up showing "one of my planetary girlfriend" and now when I give that condition of mine ;D ;D you dun mention my name?? u think thats not me who is chased after soooo many girlfriends ;) ;) .. or..or.. you are ... jeolous ;D ;D

[Cochise]

There appears to be a lot of talk and planning but no action......so when is this project going to get off the ground.

"To Mars, the first frontier, for Man (and Woman) to bravely go where no one in their right mind would want to go, to be the first human to set foot on a distant planet. OH! by the way whilst your there do you think you could pile up all the junk in one place so that things don't look too untidy.

I wonder why all these Teresstrial vehicles that have been landed on Mars haven't been located near each other?.....then the working ones could have maybe given the duff ones a swift kick in the slats and maybe brought them to life.....just a thought.

Cochise, 8) Staying on TERROR Firma.

[Uguel707]

As the captain of the crew, I decided to lift off on April 1st. I wanted to leave before but the rocket is stuck in the ice. So we just wait for spring to come... ::)



Uguel ;D

[Cochise]

Sounds like a good plan to me Uguel, Mmmmm! April 1st? has slight overtones don't you think, not a good omen for success, I would be inclined to make it April 3rd, that's sort of a nondescript date, good omen.

Have the science Boffins for this enterprise taken into account the ageing effects of distant space travel, you don't all want to get back in a couple of months time and find you all looking about eighty, some, like me, you wouldn't notice the difference but you young lovelies...well......don't say I didn't warn you.

My God Bless All Who Volunteer........No!....No!....Paint, never volunteer.........What have I told you......

Cochise, 8)

[Uguel707]

-{ Quote: " quoting: Cochise link=board=27;threadid=18987;start=210#msg126259 date=1075582988]

Sounds like a good plan to me Uguel, Mmmmm! April 1st? has slight overtones don't you think, not a good omen for success, I would be inclined to make it April 3rd, that's sort of a nondescript date, good omen." }-

I don't know ::) I thought that April 1st had just the right overtone for the expedition.

-{ Quote: "Have the science Boffins for this enterprise taken into account the ageing effects of distant space travel, you don't all want to get back in a couple of months time and find you all looking about eighty, some, like me, you wouldn't notice the difference but you young lovelies...well......don't say I didn't warn you." }-

To the people on Earth, the people returning from the expedition will seem to have aged less (not that this is a consideration in my electing to go on the expedition!) ;D

-{ Quote: "My God Bless All Who Volunteer........No!....No!....Paint, never volunteer.........What have I told you......" }-

I understand Paint not wanting to go, the straw on Earth is better than the Martian variety! ;)


Uguel 8)

[subratam]

-{ Quote: " quoting: Uguel707 link=board=27;threadid=18987;start=210#msg126264 date=1075584120]
-{ Quote: " quoting: Cochise link=board=27;threadid=18987;start=210#msg126259 date=1075582988]



-{ Quote: "My God Bless All Who Volunteer........No!....No!....Paint, never volunteer.........What have I told you......" }-

I understand Paint not wanting to go, the straw on Earth is better than the Martian variety! ;)


Uguel 8)
" }-

" }-What happened to you Paint??? ::) ::)

[Primrose]

When I took my Rover back with me from Mars..he did not come back alone ;D ;D

He was my high tech watch dog. If you bring back any Mars Rocks with you on the April 1 trip..check them out real close..and once again..stay away from the yellow snow :o :P

[Uguel707]

Wouldn't it be a good thing if Paint take an appointment
with a dental hygienist?



Uguel ;D

[Cochise]

No! Don't get me wrong, Ol' Paint would volunteer in the blink of an eye but with his dicky tummy and all that, NOT a good idea believe me.

Cochise, 8)

[Uguel707]

-{ Quote: " quoting: Primrose link=board=27;threadid=18987;start=210#msg126274 date=1075585945]
When I took my Rover back with me from Mars..he did not come back alone ;D ;D

He was my high tech watch dog. If you bring back any Mars Rocks with you on the April 1 trip..check them out real close..and once again..stay away from the yellow snow :o :P


" }-

:P

We will!

[Cochise]

I don't know!....Tsk!..Tsk!....some people....you'll be saying he needs a hair-cut next.

Actually Paint IS a fully qualified dental Surgeon and those teeth aren't his, he just happens to be breaking them in for a friend who has landed a part in a film as a down and out because that's the kind of guy he is.

Cochise, 8)

[subratam]

hmm...hmmm
now i understand it all........

[beetlejuice]

-{ Quote: "
I don't know ::) I thought that April 1st had just the right overtone for the expedition." }-

Aye, I concur Captain. April 1st is the day. Now, 1 thing remains to do. Name the ship, and since you're the Captain, you do the honors. And don't forget the Champagne! ;Dhttp://www.gifs.net/animate/starship.gif


EDIT: Another thing. We still need a Doctor.

Calling Dr. Peaches, WE need you!

[beetlejuice]

-{ Quote: "Wouldn't it be a good thing if Paint take an appointment
with a dental hygienist?



Uguel ;D
" }-

Oh boy. As well as a Chief Engineer, I'm also a dentist. 1 more victi--I mean patient before we leave Earth. Ummm~thinking to self~"Where did I put my jackhammer and my C4?"
c4

[bigc73542]

I am sure glad I don't have a tooth ache. C4?

[Uguel707]

-{ Quote: " quoting: beetlejuice link=board=27;threadid=18987;start=225#msg126357 date=1075597171]
-{ Quote: "
I don't know ::) I thought that April 1st had just the right overtone for the expedition." }-

Aye, I concur Captain. April 1st is the day. Now, 1 thing remains to do. Name the ship, and since you're the Captain, you do the honors. And don't forget the Champagne! ;Dhttp://www.gifs.net/animate/starship.gif


EDIT: Another thing. We still need a Doctor.

Calling Dr. Peaches, WE need you!

" }-

Name the ship? Mmmm... what about skydiver?

April 1st ? Maybe...And the Champagne is already bought!
I tied it to a leash 'cause I don't want the bottle to get lost in space...

Of course, if Peaches comes along, that would be best for we do need a doctor on board! ANW, it's good to have more gals around... :)


Uguel 8)

[subratam]

-{ Quote: " quoting: beetlejuice link=board=27;threadid=18987;start=225#msg126357 date=1075597171]
-{ Quote: "

EDIT: Another thing. We still need a Doctor.

Calling Dr. Peaches, WE need you!

" }-

" }-

why?? do u still need a DOCTOR?? ::) ::)

[bigc73542]

I will admit that it is nice to have more girls around. But only to keep us guys in line in the confines of space. We can only play so many games of yatze without going bonkers. And a calming voice might be just the ticket to a successful journey. and if that doesn't work the doc can give us a dose of thorzine to slow us down. ;D

[Uguel707]

-{ Quote: "why?? do u still need a DOCTOR??" }-

Just in case...Anything can happen overthere...we never set
foot on that planet yet so let's not take a chance!


-{ Quote: " quoting: bigc73542 link=board=27;threadid=18987;start=225#msg126402 date=1075607511]
I will admit that it is nice to have more girls around. But only to keep us guys in line in the confines of space. We can only play so many games of yatze without going bonkers. And a calming voice might be just the ticket to a successful journey. and if that doesn't work the doc can give us a dose of thorzine to slow us down. ;D
" }-

Yes, we girls are very disciplined! :)

Yatze ?

Well maybe but since I already saw a website that sells Martian rocks :o *we might be very busy to fill up our vessel...* so I don't think we will get bored or whatever.

* The landing can be harder when will come back!* ::)


Uguel

[bigc73542]

A link to yahtzee.


http://www.sandsusa.com/Yatzee/Default.htm

[bigc73542]

I would like to have a couple of these rocks to put on the market so I could retire in style


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/1787146.stm ;)

[Uguel707]

-{ Quote: " quoting: bigc73542 link=board=27;threadid=18987;start=225#msg126694 date=1075684211]
I would like to have a couple of these rocks to put on the market so I could retire in style
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/1787146.stm ;)
" }-


I agree with you it is desirable to make some profit in the end.... ;D
But the main goal of our mission is to discover evidence of life on Mars...and the rest will follow, lol!

Uguel ;D

[bigc73542]

Well here is a little fella that is supposed to have a rock and gem shop on mars, maybe we can look him up.

[subratam]

maybe... they dun like our idea... or do they like?/ ??? ???

[Uguel707]

Isn't it the Mysterious Gollum that followed both hobbits, Froda and Sam? ??? (Such a mercurial character) :P
Hope BJ hasn't invited him to take place in our rocket.... :-\
Ugh! He needs some good make-up advice! ;D

Uguel

[bigc73542]

He may be a gollum but where do you think they originally came from. ;)

[beetlejuice]

-{ Quote: "Hope BJ hasn't invited him to take place in our rocket.... :-\
Ugh! He needs some good make-up advice! ;D

Uguel
" }-

Only if we find him on Mars, will we bring him back. And if anyone can make him look good, it's you Uguel! ;D I mean, how could you not be an expert in "good looks"! ;D
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/avatars/Uguel707.810083.gif

[Uguel707]

-{ Quote: " quoting: beetlejuice link=board=27;threadid=18987;start=240#msg127309 date=1075851422]
>snip...
Only if we find him on Mars, will we bring him back. And if anyone can make him look good, it's you Uguel! ;D I mean, how could you not be an expert in "good looks" " }-

Actually he would need to put on weight. 8) Let say 30 pounds ...then I will "straighten" his back, give him vitamins and proteins and will have his hair grow again accordingly....
I cannot guarantee the results but the poor thing will improve a bit, that's for sure!

Uguel :D

[bigc73542]

Be sure to bring about ten pounds of makeup base and a spatula, you have a lot of work to do. :D

[Cochise]

I'm beginning to worry abit about the safety of the brave personnel setting out on this most dangerous mission to Mars.......

Fact #1.........APRIL 1st.???????????

Fact #2........Name of Ship.....'SKYDIVER'?????????

Why not go the whole nine yards and call the Mission 'TITANIC'. :o

Paint and I are going to miss you all.

Cochise,

[bigc73542]

We are a little loopy waiting for the mission launch date But once the mission has launched we will settle down to a rigerous work routine required for a successful mission. At least it should work that way ;) And besides we have houston mission control on the job

[Primrose]

It is not easy to find Paint on Mars ;)

How many made it ?

[bigc73542]

That is some outstanding camollage :o

[Uguel707]

-{ Quote: " quoting: Primrose link=board=27;threadid=18987;start=240#msg127615 date=1075951322]
It is not easy to find Paint on Mars ;)

How many made it ?
" }-

I can see 5 horses in it...Is that correct? ???
___________________________________

To the crew,

About the name of our rocket....

After much deliberation, I decided to name our rocket "Infinity". :) Why Infinity? Consider, we might have chosen "Skydiver" for one mission only, but since we must keep an eye on the economic side of things I'd rather name it "Infinity" and travel into space several times with it instead of going there just once. Yes, you understood me well. ;D

Our mission to Mars will not be the only one. We will do as many space explorations as we can in order to increase our knowledge and understand the world better. Mars isn't the only planet in the universe after all. Just think of space probe Magellan that made a systematic mapping of the planet Venus. I know it doesn't matter a hoot to you just now but some day, no doubt, you'll realise how addictive it is to explore the universe and how good it feels not having to purchase a new rocket or vessel each time we want to take off. :P

Your devoted captain,


Uguel ;D

[bigc73542]

The name infinity is a fitting name for our ship. and I also see five horses.


Chief Science Officer bigc73542
Star ship Infinity.


Mars here we come