ESS 3.0 Final Released!

[poepoe2797]

I got a copy on the final version that's being released and it's pretty nice. A few more changes here and there. The version is 3.0.551.0. You will be able to buy/download it on November 5th according to their site.

[ASpace]

We know it has been released some days ago
Interested to know where you downloaded it from - or someone gave you the private copy

[Nunes]

Any information about the upgrade policy for the NOD subscriptions, that want to migrate to the suite?

[ASpace]

{QUOTE-> Any information about the upgrade policy for the NOD subscriptions, that want to migrate to the suite? <-QUOTE}

You'll get a discount if you upgrade from NOD32 to ESS util 31 Dec 2007

[Trooper]

{QUOTE-> You'll get a discount if you upgrade from NOD32 to ESS util 31 Dec 2007 <-QUOTE}

That is good to know. Any clue on how we can get more info on this? Or do we have to wait until Nov 5th for more information?

[ASpace]

{QUOTE-> Any clue on how we can get more info on this? <-QUOTE}

Unfortunately , Trooper , even though I know some things I am not the one who should announce these :)
Everyone should contact ESET locally and ask them :thumb:

[webyourbusiness]

Trooper, there might be subtle variations depending where in the world you are - please contact a reseller in your locality. I know the US resellers have upgrade information (we do anyway) - I can't speak to how the channel communications went in other parts of the world though.

[webyourbusiness]

{QUOTE-> How many PC's covered by license? <-QUOTE}

upgrade to the suite is purchased on a per-workstation basis as I understand it. Please contact your local resellers for specifics.

[rayoflight]

Thank you.
I deleted my previous post because I found all information:standard license per 1 user/computer only.
What I never understand why I should contact my local reseller and why I can't buy it online on the eset's global site:(

[spyros12]

were can we find this relese now?

[appster]

Hmm, could this be why my ESS (Release Candidate) did not update its signatures today? :-\

[sjgore]

{QUOTE-> You will be able to buy/download it on November 5th according to their site.
<-QUOTE}

But our beta licenses expire on the 1st Nov? What do we do?

Steve.

[Nunes]

And if the reseller where I bought the NOD license is not yet up-to-date to what concerns this new policy? I have to wait, or with my license code I can make the upgrade anywhere?

[ronjor]

The programs have not been officially released although the Eset websites are introducing the programs.

I expect it will be announced here when the downloads are available.

[PatG]

{QUOTE-> Thank you.
What I never understand why I should contact my local reseller and why I can't buy it online on the eset's global site:( <-QUOTE}

Agree! If you already have a licensed ver of the AV, there should be something posted somewhere, according to time left on your existing license, what each individual's cost will be!

[mvdu]

$59.99 is actually pretty competitive for a suite these days. It's cheaper than NIS and much cheaper than KIS. If renewal discounts are offered, it would be an even better deal. Anyone hear about how much renewal discounts might be?

[webyourbusiness]

Here is how upgrades to Eset Smart Security will be priced:

to upgrade - what you purchase is a Smart Security RENEWAL - ie - this is obviously cheaper than a new purchase - if you purchase a 1 year Smart Security renewal,then 1 year is added to your license that you currently have - if you have one month, then you get 13 months total - if you have 6 months, you get 18 months.


If you purchase 2 year Smart Security Renewal for upgrade, you add 24 months to the expiration you currently have.

[trjam]

I would have no issues with those prices. Hopefully the first license covers 2 machines then it goes to 3 and up.

[kC_]

lol @ vista running with 512mb ram

[PatG]

This site answers a lot of questions about purchase and renewals, w/pricing:

http://www.betterantivirus.com/catalog/eset-smart-security-home-edition-license-renewals-c-55_30_47.html

EDIT: Removed

[Trooper]

Thanks to Hitech boy and webyourbusiness for the information. I have always just purchased my NOD32 stuff via www.eset.com I never understood the whole local reseller deal anyways.

Guess I will just wait until next week to see how it shakes out.

[The_Duality]

Im quite interested to know where you got that version... google only throws up warez torrents and the like... ???

[ASpace]

{QUOTE-> Im quite interested to know where you got that version... <-QUOTE}

The OP didn't answer my question and ESS is not released yet for the public , so it must be a private one from ESET. He/She has got it via special download and authorisation :)

[The_Duality]

Ahhh thats fair enough :)

Lucky bugger :P

Is it wrong for me to be excited for the release date? Sometimes I really think I need to get out more... :-\

But then I just log back into Wilders and forget that train of thought completely ;D

I would have thought posting screenshots and stuff might be in breach of some sort of NDA (Non Disclosure Agreement) or something.

[BlueZannetti]

Multiple posts involving an unauthorized V3 download have been split offline.

Here's the deal folks - that type of posting here is simply not allowed here, nor should it be encouraged. Yes, it's probably fine, but that's not verifiable and if anything is amiss, it is the vendor's name that is sullied. Enough said - I hope.

Blue

[pjb]

It would be nice if Eset posted the released versions here for their loyal beta testers prior to it's Full public release, I am sure it would let us testers feel appreciated.

[Triple Helix]

{QUOTE-> It would be nice if Eset posted the released versions here for their loyal beta testers prior to it's Full public release, I am sure it would let us testers feel appreciated. <-QUOTE}

I agree with that statement! :thumb:

Cheers,

TH ;D

[cookie1977]

I agree too

[djohn]

yes I just received email on oct 29 from Sales support that smart security would be ready to purchase on nov5th to buy/download, the trial runs out on the first.

[djohn]

{QUOTE-> lol @ vista running with 512mb ram <-QUOTE}
"You can run vista home basic 0n 512 but that is minimal requirements"How it runs depends on configurations.

[trjam]

{QUOTE-> It would be nice if Eset posted the released versions here for their loyal beta testers prior to it's Full public release, I am sure it would let us testers feel appreciated. <-QUOTE}
though the statement would not include me, I totally agree that the folks here that stuck it out deserve it. Especially since they were the ones that offered their hardware up to be used for the beta...

What happens between the first and release date is what puzzles me. But yes, there are quite a number of you wh deserve this honor.:thumb:

[Ade 1]

{QUOTE->
What happens between the first and release date is what puzzles me. But yes, there are quite a number of you wh deserve this honor.:thumb: <-QUOTE}

I'm puzzled to although the expiration date disappeared in the GUI just the other day. Surely they can't leave us "high and dry" for 4 days until the official release. That would be a shame.

[OMEGA_RAZER]

I'm sure they'll update the U/P to fill the gap till the 5th... maybe the 6th if they're feeling generous :P

[ugly]

{QUOTE-> I'm puzzled to although the expiration date disappeared in the GUI just the other day. Surely they can't leave us "high and dry" for 4 days until the official release. That would be a shame. <-QUOTE}

BTW , as you can see , there is no expiration date in the final release.:'(

[kC_]

yup beta user/pass working in this final version (until i can purchase)

thanks for link, hope you didnt get in too much trouble

[sponch]

{QUOTE-> yup beta user/pass working in this final version (until i can purchase)

thanks for link, hope you didnt get in too much trouble <-QUOTE}
what link?

[kC_]

it was removed by admins, i guess i was lucky enough to see it before the admin;D

[spyros12]

were can we find again?

[kC_]

www.eset.com on the 5th novemeber

[spyros12]

Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[GaryRW]

From the screenshot, it looks like the firewall module is the only one updated from current beta; 10/17 vs 9/17

[kC_]

it didnt fix this problem i reported since beta 1

http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=183408

eset sentme a test dll regarding this problem when i emailed them, but ignored me when i reported back that it still didnt work.

oh well no ess on my laptop for now.. working great so far on the other 6 pc's in my house... seems to be running much quicker & smoother than any of the beta's or rc1.. also love the new tray icon in the final

hopefully its cheaper if i buy a 6 user license, i dont fancy £44.99 x 6!:'(

[pmi]

{QUOTE-> It would be nice if Eset posted the released versions here for their loyal beta testers prior to it's Full public release, I am sure it would let us testers feel appreciated. <-QUOTE}

I second that. And you know what is worse? The final version is already available for download on several sites, but not on Eset. :'(

[kC_]

sigh... this bug also still not fixed!
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=185194

[tosbsas]

uffa -really -that s***

Ruben

[tosbsas]

@pmi
care for pm me one?

Ruben

[trjam]

give me the frigging name of a product, especially a beta that doesnt have a kink in it. Go look at the Avira and Kaspersky forums and they are riddle with small but nagging issues. Things like this get worked out as time goes by. So hear me when I say, QUIT HARPING on one issue. I have been one of the most outspoken critics of Eset and this whole suite and AV for quite awhile, but they have accomplished what I honestly thought they could not. I have no problems putting all of my computers under the Eset flag and am telling my co-workers to prepare to do the same. So, yes with all do respect, there still may be a issue or two, but the Eset folks will accomplish fixing it, because they sure have done a lot in a short time. Nuff said.>:(

[De Hollander]

Generally speaking, go ahead, take the risk, and download from an unofficial source :wacko:

Sorry, but is it so difficult to wait for a couple off days.

[poepoe2797]

{QUOTE-> Generally speaking, go ahead, take the risk, and download from an unofficial source :wacko:

Sorry, but is it so difficult to wait for a couple off days. <-QUOTE}

For the record ... my source is official; my source was ESET ;)

[BlueZannetti]

Folks,

A couple of OT posts have been removed.

For the record, if you wish to have a private discussion with a fellow member, how about trying out the PM feature. That's what it's there for....

Blue

[De Hollander]

{QUOTE-> For the record ... my source is official; my source was ESET ;) <-QUOTE}

:thumb:

[JeremyWW]

{QUOTE-> It would be nice if Eset posted the released versions here for their loyal beta testers prior to it's Full public release, I am sure it would let us testers feel appreciated. <-QUOTE}

Apart from any niggles about the products - functionality / GUI / bugs - fixed or not fixed, this is the thing that really niggles me about the way Eset have 'managed' this process. We've been here for months 'experimenting' with these Beta's, accepting the inevitable problems / crashes / inadequacies of 'pre-release' software, providing feedback...and Eset's responsiveness to that has been poor all the way through that process. It took someone at Beta Support around two weeks to respond at all to my last communication with them.

Even now, we're right on top of the final release, reading all the inevitable, 'carefully constructed' marketing hype on the Eset websites, and can they answer a simple question about the perceived 'gap' in the licence dates - No. Do they let us have a preview release as Beta testers - No. Reason - they are under too much pressure, they MUST release these products now for commercial / business reasons, whether the product is truly finished or not. They don't NEED any more feedback / moans at this stage - too late for that! That's my highly cynical take on it anyway - I have been in the industry a while, and I have seen the symptoms before.

So, as far as this forum and the Beta 'program' is concerned, make your mind up:

1) They never took this seriously anyway? Just thought they'd give it to a few people to play with 'in case anything useful' came out of it...?

2) They simply haven't got the time to worry about 'keeping us happy'...? - 'Business is Business'.

Visibly competing with the competition at this stage is crucial. Eset can no longer afford NOT to have a competitive, functional product, but they are inexperienced in that process and indeed, managing it. I hope for their sakes, that they haven't shot themselves in the foot...

Too late for me though, I've been a loyal NOD32 user for years - but no longer. Contrary to what many seem to believe, there are other products out there that are well designed, do not hog machine resource and provide excellent protection.

Take it easy... JeremyWW has left the building... :)

[Ade 1]

I have to say that I agree totally with the previous post. But that's not to say I won't be using/buying ESS when it's officially released on Monday. However, I suppose an official announcement by Eset to the 'beta testers' wouldn't go amiss even if it's to say thank you. I'm not sure how many bug reports/comments were sent to Eset over the testing period but I can understand sometimes it's very difficult to reply to all emails sent in due to staffing resources. That's not to say though that slow responses or none at all can make ppl feel that they aren't appreciated.

Release notes/bug fixes on the upcoming final release would be nice to know so that all our efforts aren't in vane. The beta download page now simply states that the final release is imminent and beta downloads are no longer available - that's it, that's all we get.

Again, as previously mentioned, I hope the current beta username/password allows updates to continue to Monday at the earliest until such a time as a proper license can be purchased.

[BlueZannetti]

{QUOTE-> Too late for me though, I've been a loyal NOD32 user for years - but no longer. Contrary to what many seem to believe, there are other products out there that are well designed, do not hog machine resource and provide excellent protection.

Take it easy... JeremyWW has left the building... :) <-QUOTE}Just a few comments from another long time NOD32 user: Ending the active lifetime of the beta release candidate a few days prior to full commercial release of the product is (IMHO) stupid, plain and simple. There are no other words for it. I could go into details, but they should be obvious to anyone.
The lines of communication between Eset and their customer base needs work from Eset's end. They are bad and they've always been bad. The resellers do admirable service to fill the gap, but the gap shouldn't be there. The problem is not unique to Eset, but that simply means that they could use it to obtain market advantage if they got a clue.
The final product seems quite solid. Sure, there are some issues and there always will be. It may be in the lack of a desired feature, it may be in a residual bug. All products have deficiencies relative to the (unique) ideal that each of us would desire.
I'll trial the final released version before deciding whether to stay with Eset or not. It's not a given that I'll renew, and if I do, that I'd upgrade (although that would be the likely path). There are a few things that are must have for me this time around, and if they are not implemented in the final version, it will be time to look elsewhere.
Blue

[pmi]

I can confirm that the issue I reported in http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=185049, problems with exclusions, the issue is still there. I even managed to crash the system after adding a non-existent drive letter. Exclusions are not working for subfolders and there is no hint on how to exlude the subfolders. You can only exclude files. This option exists in v2.7 and is working very well.

[trjam]

{QUOTE-> Just a few comments from another long time NOD32 user: Ending the active lifetime of the beta release candidate a few days prior to full commercial release of the product is (IMHO) stupid, plain and simple. There are no other words for it. I could go into details, but they should be obvious to anyone.
The lines of communication between Eset and their customer base needs work from Eset's end. They are bad and they've always been bad. The resellers do admirable service to fill the gap, but the gap shouldn't be there. The problem is not unique to Eset, but that simply means that they could use it to obtain market advantage if they got a clue.
The final product seems quite solid. Sure, there are some issues and there always will be. It may be in the lack of a desired feature, it may be in a residual bug. All products have deficiencies relative to the (unique) ideal that each of us would desire.
I'll trial the final released version before deciding whether to stay with Eset or not. It's not a given that I'll renew, and if I do, that I'd upgrade (although that would be the likely path). There are a few things that are must have for me this time around, and if they are not implemented in the final version, it will be time to look elsewhere.
Blue <-QUOTE}
Very good post. As weird as I may seem, I have done quite a few betas, and the one thing they all held in common was a thanks to those who participated. It may have been said, in various ways or means, but it was genuine. From Mike Nash, to Notok, to Smustca, it was at least presented as a thanks to the person. That has always been my thorn with Eset, it isnt the product it was the apperance of arrogance based on how well the product has performed. It doesnt matter how well a product performs if the vendor and customer do not find some way of bonding, because without it, the wallet never gets pulled out. And that is where it all starts.Now having said that, this doesnt mean that Eset doesnt have the intention of doing all of the above, but time will tell.

[webyourbusiness]

{QUOTE->
The lines of communication between Eset and their customer base needs work from Eset's end. They are bad and they've always been bad. The resellers do admirable service to fill the gap, but the gap shouldn't be there. The problem is not unique to Eset, but that simply means that they could use it to obtain market advantage if they got a clue.
Blue <-QUOTE}

LOL - us "resellers" often get our first inkling of a change is when we read it on the website then here - rapidly followed by a "WTH did you change and not tell us" kind of phone call to our contacts inside Eset - who often have about as much information OR LESS than us... I call it mushroom farming... keeping everyone in the dark and providing liberal sprinklings of manure from upon high... it is a VERY common management "technique" employed in business...

[rogervernon]

I just wonder how many English language speakers they have in their development team. Shortage of translator capable personnel just may be the answer?

[tosbsas]

communication is bad, but actions is being done - check this out:

http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=189791

Expiration date - 11/30/07

Ruben

[Marcos]

First of all, we really owe a great deal of thanks to everyone who made a serious effort to test our new products and provide us with valuable feedback. There were several mistakes made on ESET's part with regard to how frequently we communicated with you, and we wish to apologize for that.

I would like to assure you that ESET attaches great importance to all feedback sent from betatesters all around the world. We have received dozens of bug reports made directly via the support form integrated in the program, and many more through other channels including the Wilders’ forum. ESET Smart Security is being worked out on day and night by a small army of developers adding new features and fixing the bugs reported by testers. Many of the ESET’s employees burn midnight oil in order to deliver you a best-of-the-breed product.

You have given us great and, at times, an overwhelming amount of feedback and while we may not have been able to respond to every message, we have been reading and discussing them.

We will do our best to provide status updates regularly. Over the next few days we are going to be very busy with the release process, so please understand if we do not respond immediately.

On behalf of ESET, its distributors, partners and customers, thank you all very much for the great feedback you have provided here in the forum. Without it, ESET Smart Security and ESET NOD32 Antivirus would not be the solid programs that they are today.

[trjam]

Good post, good man, good company.:thumb:

[Ade 1]

Many thanks Marcos for those kind words. It certainly means a lot to me as I hope it does to others who have tested the products. I look forward to purchasing my license for ESS when available.

[pjb]

Marcos - Thank you.

[tosbsas]

Marcos, you saved the day (:-))

Thanks

Ruben

[ASpace]

{QUOTE-> Good post, good man, good company.:thumb: <-QUOTE}

It was expected , but yes , really good ... and thanks Marcos , Mayth , GhostMan , AGoretsky and all ESET staff :thumb:

[poepoe2797]

New version out as of 10/31/07 ... 3.0.557.0. Per request from the mods here, I will not post or PM information on how to obtain it. Thank you.

[PatG]

Excellent post, Marcos! Not only do I have the faith in you, your co-workers, and the company, but after trying the betas out and making a few posts myself, have already pre-ordered ESS as of 10-29-07. Know that if there are still bugs left, they will be corrected. However, on my XP Pro AND XP Home, the program has been functioning as it should. And that includes the firewall, running it stand alone. It can only get BETTER! ;)

[nodyforever]

poepoe2797

Wowwww, update module,antivirus e antispywares scan e personal firewall fix minor bugs?


Passed PCFlack leaktest?



Thanks,
Fábio

[poepoe2797]

It failed the PCFlank Leaktest ... I had it automatic filtering mode.

[nodyforever]

{QUOTE-> It failed the PCFlank Leaktest ... I had it automatic filtering mode. <-QUOTE}



Greats by his information.

Did he want to know if it will not be possible that you could send to me this version?


Thanks,
Fábio

[djohn]

great post by marcos thank you

[OAKside]

{QUOTE-> On behalf of ESET, its distributors, partners and customers, thank you all very much for the great feedback you have provided here in the forum. Without it, ESET Smart Security and ESET NOD32 Antivirus would not be the solid programs that they are today. <-QUOTE}
This looks the the "Thanks" topic, so let me just say Thanks as well, to everyone as Eset working their arses off.
Including all the devs, Marcos and co., everyone! Will happily be purchasing ESS ASAP. :)

[nodyforever]

The icon of the ESS exceeds the limte of pixel in the context of the menu:


Some suggestion?



Thanks.
Fábio

[nodHead]

{QUOTE-> New version out as of 10/31/07 ... 3.0.557.0. Per request from the mods here, I will not post or PM information on how to obtain it. Thank you. <-QUOTE}

It's not on one of ESETS U*.Servers is it? :lurking:

[Thankful]

Other 'final' versions are also floating around the web. I think I can wait until Monday for the correct final version.

[The_1337]

{QUOTE-> It's not on one of ESETS U*.Servers is it? :lurking: <-QUOTE}

actually i think it is...

[nodHead]

{QUOTE-> actually i think it is... <-QUOTE}

Darn I wish I knew how many there was. :lurking: Or which one to poke. :shifty:

http://u2.eset.com/download/win/eav/eav_nt32_enu.msi Seems to be downloading, but is it that new build?! Soon will know.

Darn, its still the same release build.

[Steel]

{QUOTE-> Darn I wish I knew how many there was. :lurking: Or which one to poke. :shifty:

http://u2.eset.com/download/win/eav/eav_nt32_enu.msi Seems to be downloading, but is it that new build?! Soon will know. <-QUOTE}
No, there you get the 3.0.551.0. But, where getting the newest Build 3.0.557.0 ? Did an Build 3.0.557.0 exist ? ???

[nodHead]

{QUOTE-> No, there you get the 3.551.0. But, where getting the newest Build 3.557.0 ? Did an Build 3557.0 exist ? ??? <-QUOTE}

Same old build. Makes me wonder if .557 is actually a beta build. :-\

[Steel]

{QUOTE-> Same old build. Makes me wonder if .557 is actually a beta build. :-\ <-QUOTE}
I saw this Build 3.557.0 still nowhere. Knows only 3.551.0. Does someone know more?

[nodHead]

{QUOTE-> I saw this Build 3.557.0 still nowhere. Knows only 3.551.0. Does someone know more? <-QUOTE}

Poepoe does. But he got told not to pass the info on. Thats sad. :'(

[Steel]

{QUOTE-> Poepoe does. But he got told not to pass the info on. Thats sad. :'( <-QUOTE}
And where then is the logic and/or the sense of its reference? It writes, there would be a newer Build, does not say however not where. One knows letters much.

[The_1337]

http://www.majorgeeks.com/NOD32_Antivirus_System_d3704.html

it was in another part of the forum.

[Steel]

{QUOTE-> http://www.majorgeeks.com/NOD32_Antivirus_System_d3704.html

it was in another part of the forum. <-QUOTE}
Build 551 is well-known, but, where however this Build is 557 ? Of which one spoke here

[cupez80]

{QUOTE-> New version out as of 10/31/07 ... 3.0.557.0. Per request from the mods here, I will not post or PM information on how to obtain it. Thank you. <-QUOTE}
so..what the diff. between 3.0.551.0 & 3.0.557.0 ? any changelog ?

[Steel]

First times a proof screen SHOT is sufficient of poepoe that at all such Build exists.

[LowWaterMark]

The "official" final is not out yet. It still may change again prior to the actual release on the target date. Use any of those other supposed finals at your own risk!

[nodyforever]

Memory leak to ESS?


Thanks a lot in advance.

[poepoe2797]

I am running the 3.0.557.0 version and it DOES exist. Unfortunately, I cannot give out anymore information to anyone. I'm sorry.

[ASpace]

Marcos won't lie us . 557 is internal build , it is more than obvious . As I said (before) you got it in a private way :thumb:

[nodHead]

Well NOD32 V3 is gone off my system. :-\ After a signature update yesterday there was also components updated. After that I found that Internet browsing became really slow and lots of time-outs etc. Uninstalled NOD32 V3 .551 and everything is back to normal :(

The other thing that's annoying is that NOD32's implementation of internet traffic scanning seems to be too uncertain. Unless and application is added as an Internet aware app, then there's a good chance malware can get through (As I understand it). :ouch:

[poepoe2797]

Also, for all of you looking forward to the NOD32 release, I also obtained the 3.0.557.0 version. Here's a screenshot on my other computer:

[ASpace]

{QUOTE-> Well NOD32 V3 is gone off my system. :-\ After a signature update yesterday there was also components updated. After that I found that Internet browsing became really slow and lots of time-outs etc. Uninstalled NOD32 V3 .551 and everything is back to normal :( <-QUOTE}

I didn't notice such thing with EA .

{QUOTE-> The other thing that's annoying is that NOD32's implementation of internet traffic scanning seems to be too uncertain. Unless and application is added as an Internet aware app, then there's a good chance malware can get through (As I understand it). :ouch: <-QUOTE}

Nope , no way :)

[webyourbusiness]

{QUOTE-> Also, for all of you looking forward to the NOD32 release, I also obtained the 3.0.557.0 version. Here's a screenshot on my other computer: <-QUOTE}

would you quit stoking the fire?!?! I don't care if YOU have an unreleased version - having to defend this kind of rubbish to my customers is getting old. Please keep your pre-release version to yourself.

[Thankful]

I have a RC version that is working just fine. Eset can take as long as they wish to release the final version. Eset has kept me safe for five years. That's all that matters to me.

[GAN]

{QUOTE-> would you quit stoking the fire?!?! I don't care if YOU have an unreleased version - having to defend this kind of rubbish to my customers is getting old. Please keep your pre-release version to yourself. <-QUOTE}
Couldn't agree more.....

[poepoe2797]

{QUOTE-> would you quit stoking the fire?!?! I don't care if YOU have an unreleased version - having to defend this kind of rubbish to my customers is getting old. Please keep your pre-release version to yourself. <-QUOTE}

Actually this is my thread ... so if you don't like it, you can leave. Otherwise, deal with it ::)

[BlueZannetti]

{QUOTE-> Actually this is my thread ... so if you don't like it, you can leave. Otherwise, deal with it ::) <-QUOTE}Actually, let me take a moment to correct you on that point. A topic starter does not own anything. They set the direction, hopefully contribute, and that's it.

Blue

[poepoe2797]

{QUOTE-> Actually, let me take a moment to correct you on that point. A topic starter does not own anything. They set the direction, hopefully contribute, and that's it.

Blue <-QUOTE}

I understand that I don't own the topic, and I am trying to "set the direction" and contribute, but webyourbusiness doesn't have to come in here and tell me to stop posting in the thread I started.

[GAN]

{QUOTE-> I understand that I don't own the topic, and I am trying to "set the direction" and contribute, but webyourbusiness doesn't have to come in here and tell me to stop posting in the thread I started. <-QUOTE}
But he have a point when he said "stoking the fire". You posting a screenshot over and over again to show everyone you have version .557 doesn't do any good. It would be better if you kept that information to yourself. Even if he or i cannot tell you what to do maybe you should think about what he said and maybe you see that he have a good point. I believe we are all allowed to post in this thread.

[BlueZannetti]

{QUOTE-> I understand that I don't own the topic, and I am trying to "set the direction" and contribute, <-QUOTE}Well, that wasn't quite what you wrote.
{QUOTE-> but webyourbusiness doesn't have to come in here and tell me to stop posting in the thread I started. <-QUOTE}webyourbusiness' point, among others, is a valid one to consider. The release in your possession is not necessarily a final one and the public status of it is open to debate. Given that some details may be fluid, one should seriously wonder at the value of the information developed. Sure, some things won't change, but at this point the thread is progressing along the lines of little more than "look at what I have and you don't".

The formal release is a couple of days away. Days which could be spent stress testing the version you've installed, perhaps noting an additional glitch or two that would help many fellow users avoid problems on the formal release day.

Blue

[poepoe2797]

{QUOTE-> But he have a point when he said "stoking the fire". You posting a screenshot over and over again to show everyone you have version .557 doesn't do any good. It would be better if you kept that information to yourself. Even if he or i cannot tell you what to do maybe you should think about what he said and maybe you see that he have a good point. I believe we are all allowed to post in this thread. <-QUOTE}

I'm not posting the same screenshot over and over. Each one is different (either version or program). I understand that it may not be doing you any good, but I am sure others are interested by some of the responses on this thread and the PMs I received. So I think it would be better if you kept your opinions to yourself since your opinions don't do anyone any good.

[poepoe2797]

{QUOTE->
Sure, some things won't change, but at this point the thread is progressing along the lines of little more than "look at what I have and you don't".
<-QUOTE}

Actually, (and I don't mean this in as an insult or anything) if I recall correctly, you are the one that told me not to share with anybody ???

[GAN]

{QUOTE-> I'm not posting the same screenshot over and over. Each one is different (either version or program). I understand that it may not be doing you any good, but I am sure others are interested by some of the responses on this thread and the PMs I received. So I think it would be better if you kept your opinions to yourself since your opinions don't do anyone any good. <-QUOTE}
Seems like you cannot accept that people have different opinions so i'm not going into a long discussion with you about who is wrong or right. I'm allowed to post my opinion in here unless a mod or admin tell me otherwise. So are you, but i think webyourbusiness gave you a good advice....consider it instead of getting offended and telling people to leave your topic alone.

All you screenshots have the same kind of message which is "look what i got" and since it's not available for most others it doesn't really do them any good and only show them a version they cannot have. Posting the same aboutbox from different computers isn't very useful any way. We all know that the release date is Nov 5th and if no one knew about the new existing versions a lot of the discussions in this forum wouldn't have started in the first place. I believe it would have been better that way which i'm allowed to say.

Like you said they are interested, but that is because they want what you have and you cannot share it. It's like holding candy in front of a kid, but keep it to yourself. If you could share it as well then it would be useful, but this is not useful anymore since you only post the aboutbox and doesn't even say anything about "what's new".

[BlueZannetti]

{QUOTE-> Actually, (and I don't mean this in as an insult or anything) if I recall correctly, you are the one that told me not to share with anybody ??? <-QUOTE}Correct - and for the reasons that I explicitly stated to you.

Blue

[smith2006]

{QUOTE-> Seems like you cannot accept that people have different opinions so i'm not going into a long discussion with you about who is wrong or right. I'm allowed to post my opinion in here unless a mod or admin tell me otherwise. So are you, but i think webyourbusiness gave you a good advice....consider it instead of getting offended and telling people to leave your topic alone.

All you screenshots have the same kind of message which is "look what i got" and since it's not available for most others it doesn't really do them any good and only show them a version they cannot have. Posting the same aboutbox from different computers isn't very useful any way. We all know that the release date is Nov 5th and if no one knew about the new existing versions a lot of the discussions in this forum wouldn't have started in the first place. I believe it would have been better that way which i'm allowed to say.

Like you said they are interested, but that is because they want what you have and you cannot share it. It's like holding candy in front of a kid, but keep it to yourself. If you could share it as well then it would be useful, but this is not useful anymore since you only post the aboutbox and doesn't even say anything about "what's new". <-QUOTE}

I agree. :thumb:

[firzen771]

is the firewall in v3 any good? since this is the first time they've put in a firewall

[nodyforever]

I do not manage to update:'( :'( :'( :'(

[De Hollander]

Did you check your temp / tmp user and system variables and if so make sure they point to the right location of the temporary folders.

[PatG]

{QUOTE-> is the firewall in V any good? since this is the first time they've put in a firewall <-QUOTE}

When I first started the beta, ran it in tandem w/Comodo. Was already fed up w/it due constant, and I mean constant, asking for permission for the most common programs, Avant browser, Java updates, etc. When I discovered the "interactive mode" for ESS FW, uninstalled Comodo and said good riddance. Eset has only asked me once on each incoming/outgoing programs and warned me about .exe's changing, due to updates like Perfect Disk. So yes, I am very satisfied w/it, but just my opinion, as some have voiced problems they have encountered. Why not try it yourself and decide? :)

[firzen771]

have any sites tested it yet?

[Edwin024]

At my 64 Ultimate Vista the firewall is working like a charm, and so does the rest of the program.

[nodHead]

So is the current version of NOD32 on the servers the Final version or will it go to 3.0.557 or something different by Monday? A straight answer would be awesome. ;D

[sponch]

I got the problem that not all graphics on websites are displayed correctly (not or with placeholders) with AV as well as with ESS 551 - both on Vista 32 and 64 bit machines.
Can anyone confirm that?

[Edwin024]

I can confirm... No idea why by the way. It probably has something to do with the http scanning.

[sponch]

{QUOTE-> I can confirm... No idea why by the way. It probably has something to do with the http scanning. <-QUOTE}
thanks edwin! the problem still exists when turning off all components..only uninstall hepls.

[sponch]

another thing: if I go to the log files and choose " ESSET Personal Firewall log" I got hundreds of " Incorrect IP Packet Checksum" messages. What does that mean? Can anyone confirm this, too?
Sponch.. sorry for doublepost

[garyrh]

I am having the same problem with some graphics not loading on certain web sites also with NOD 3.0. I have to right click and select show picture to get it to load.

[nodHead]

Yes. I'm seeing broken graphics and only placeholders on some pages. :o
Don't know how I missed that before. But yeah its happening here too. Showstopper? :'(

[Big Apple]

Same here on some pages.

[mattnotley2004]

Has anyone had the problem I'm having with ESET Smart Security 3.0.551.0?

I can no longer view computers in my workgroup. I can access the computers individually, but when I want to view the list of computers in my workgroup, it says...

"Workgroup is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Please contact the administrator of this server to find out if you have access permissions.

The list of servers for this workgroup is not currently available"

I'm running Windows XP Pro, and I have configured ESET Smart Security with Interactive Filtering, and allowed sharing.

[kC_]

{QUOTE-> Has anyone had the problem I'm having with ESET Smart Security 3.0.551.0?

I can no longer view computers in my workgroup. I can access the computers individually, but when I want to view the list of computers in my workgroup, it says...

"Workgroup is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Please contact the administrator of this server to find out if you have access permissions.

The list of servers for this workgroup is not currently available"

I'm running Windows XP Pro, and I have configured ESET Smart Security with Interactive Filtering, and allowed sharing. <-QUOTE}

yes this was reported in beta1, carried on into beta 2, and reported.... carried on into RC1 and reported...
an email from eset said "this has been reproduced and fixed"

however i am using the leaked 3.0.551 (final) and the problem still persists.
i have emailed support and they will not answer, but i willbe hounding their support on monday the very second that my license arrives:blink:

[poutine]

The AV 3.0.551 Is full of bugs ,so i suspect this is very much the same .... dont waste your time. ;)
i went back to 2.70.39. Luckily i ghost my machine before trying dodgy leaked software. !!!

[firzen771]

{QUOTE-> is the firewall in ESS a rule based firewall or an application firewall? <-QUOTE} anyone?

[andy2008]

{QUOTE->

So is the current version of NOD32 on the servers the Final version or will it go to 3.0.557 or something different by Monday? A straight answer would be awesome. <-QUOTE}

My guess is after they uploaded version 3.0.551 to the eset servers they found some bugs which need fixing as both ESS and EAV still have some bugs in which shouldnt have made it to the final version. Im guessing if 557 doesnt appear by Monday it will do soon. Hopefully they are working on the bugs which we have reported with 551 and should have it fixed.

@ poutine Version 3.0.551 isnt "dodgy leaked software" its an official release on the eset servers so please dont go spouting fud. Theres enough of that already going on in the forums.

I highly doubt, unless eset work weekends, that things will change and more than likely 3.0.551 will be whats downloaded on Monday. But as ive said there is bugs and i imagine 557 will be released shortly if not next week then the week after.

[Pwntje]

Just tried 3.0 final and it seems to be the first version which doesn't freeze my Windows Vista, finally;D

[nodyforever]

{QUOTE-> Did you check your temp / tmp user and system variables and if so make sure they point to the right location of the temporary folders. <-QUOTE}



I do not manage to resolve the problem, I already repaired the filing cabinets and be still in same it finalizes it up-to-date version is to 2634

>:( >:( >:( >:( :gack: :gack:

[ASpace]

{QUOTE-> unless eset work weekends <-QUOTE}

Of course they work . They work 24/7 .

[firzen771]

have any websites tested the ESS firewall yet?

[webyourbusiness]

no website can tell me more than my own testing has done already... you really think so of these magazine and websites are true experts in the field of security testing? If only being published was the sole criteria for determining how qualified someone was...

[ugly]

{QUOTE-> My guess is after they uploaded version 3.0.551 to the eset servers they found some bugs which need fixing as both ESS and EAV still have some bugs in which shouldnt have made it to the final version. Im guessing if 557 doesnt appear by Monday it will do soon. Hopefully they are working on the bugs which we have reported with 551 and should have it fixed. <-QUOTE}

On eset.sk ESS version is 3.0.555 but only "cesky" .???

[ASpace]

{QUOTE-> On eset.sk ESS version is 3.0.555 but only "cesky" .??? <-QUOTE}


That is why we should wait until Monday .

Most likely different just because of some translation difference

[De Hollander]

As a last resort have you tried exporting your settings, and performing a uninstall/clean install.

{QUOTE-> I do not manage to resolve the problem, I already repaired the filing cabinets and be still in same it finalizes it up-to-date version is to 2634

>:( >:( >:( >:( :gack: :gack: <-QUOTE}

[nodyforever]

{QUOTE-> As a last resort have you tried exporting your settings, and performing a uninstall/clean install. <-QUOTE}


Thanks :)

[proactivelover]

{QUOTE-> On eset.sk ESS version is 3.0.555 but only "cesky" .??? <-QUOTE}
it's 551

[ugly]

{QUOTE-> it's 551 <-QUOTE}

It's 555. I"m using it now for testing.:lurking:


194806

[proactivelover]

{QUOTE-> It's 555. I"m using it now for testing.:lurking:


194806 <-QUOTE}
please tell me why me

[GAN]

@proactivelover

If you visit the www.eset.sk site it says 551 and the www.eset.cz site it says 555. You obviously used the .sk site and that's why you only see 551, but even if it says 551 the files is 555 on both sites.

[nodHead]

Well if 3.0.551 is the final then I'm passing on NOD32 V3. :dry:
It's becoming clear that ESET needs tighter quality control and maybe form a specialized dedicated group of beta testers.

[GAN]

{QUOTE-> Well if 3.0.551 is the final then I'm passing on NOD32 V3. :dry:
It's becoming clear that ESET needs tighter quality control and maybe form a specialized dedicated group of beta testers. <-QUOTE}

Well according to eset the release date of nod32 and ess v3 is Nov 5th which means it's not yet released. So i guess what we see on monday is the real final version. If 551 is the final i doubt since another user in this forum said he already had and also included a screenshot of version 557.

So i don't think it's fair to complain about version 3 final until it's released and you know that the version you are using actually is the final.

[nodyforever]

{QUOTE-> As a last resort have you tried exporting your settings, and performing a uninstall/clean install. <-QUOTE}




It is already working that I did such and what as you said to me:)


Greats,
Fábio

[De Hollander]

{QUOTE-> It is already working that I did such and what as you said to me:)


Greats,
Fábio <-QUOTE}

:thumb:

{QUOTE-> Well according to eset the release date of nod32 and ess v3 is Nov 5th which means it's not yet released. So i guess what we see on monday is the real final version. If 551 is the final i doubt since another user in this forum said he already had and also included a screenshot of version 557.

So i don't think it's fair to complain about version 3 final until it's released and you know that the version you are using actually is the final. <-QUOTE}

:thumb:

There are reports off .555 557 and who noise perhaps there is already another version. As I understand it, they are internal testing version. So Eset is working hard on fixing bugs :thumb:

[firzen771]

is it a rule based firewall or application based?

[poutine]

{QUOTE-> My guess is after they uploaded version 3.0.551 to the eset servers they found some bugs which need fixing as both ESS and EAV still have some bugs in which shouldnt have made it to the final version. Im guessing if 557 doesnt appear by Monday it will do soon. Hopefully they are working on the bugs which we have reported with 551 and should have it fixed.

@ poutine Version 3.0.551 isnt "dodgy leaked software" its an official release on the eset servers so please dont go spouting fud. Theres enough of that already going on in the forums.

I highly doubt, unless eset work weekends, that things will change and more than likely 3.0.551 will be whats downloaded on Monday. But as ive said there is bugs and i imagine 557 will be released shortly if not next week then the week after. <-QUOTE}

Hi andy2008.
yeah i could of worded it better, but if it was an official release, how the hell did they miss bugs so blatantly obvious ?? I mean within 3 minutes of installing 3.0.511 the bugs in it just slapped me in the digital face. !
At 6.30 pm (U.K) i had an email from Eset Tech they wanted more details urgently ...so fingers crossed for monday.

[pheather]

{QUOTE-> is it a rule based firewall or application based? <-QUOTE}
Both actually - rules can be built to control ports or applications

looks very similar to the Kerio Personal Firewall that Sunbelt software (Counterspy) recently bought - perhaps the underlying code comes from them

hope this helps

pheather

[firzen771]

so u can set access to the internet to a program, and u can make specific rules for ports and stuff? how easy is the firewall to use?

[Marcin_K]

The firewall is easy to use yet really configurable. In the past 7 years I've used and tested many security apps and I must say pf included in ESS is a piece of good work.

People with minimum or even no idea about setting up program like this will be as pleased as software experts who need everything to be set up the way they want. The automatic mode provides an efficient protecion by letting applications request their connections without prompting and it blocks all the trafiic not initialized by the user, whereas the interactive mode puts a nice dialog box everytime a new connection request occurs and then lets the user decide if he just wants to tell the firewall 'let this application do what it wants to do' or configure everything to the last specific detail of the new rule being set up.

For the past few years I've been sticking to Outpost but what they did with their Vista-compatible version is quite a shame so I've decided I'm sticking with ESS now. Somehow I know I won't be disappointed.

Sending big "Hello!" to Polish fans of NOD32 and the rest of you all over the world :-)

[The Nodder]

{QUOTE->
For the past few years I've been sticking to Outpost but what they did with their Vista-compatible version is quite a shame so I've decided I'm sticking with ESS now. Somehow I know I won't be disappointed.
<-QUOTE}

And me too, and I have a lifetime licence.
I've never been let down by ESET & the new ESS has given me no problems when I checked it out.

[firzen771]

sweet, cant wait for this to be released tomorrow;D

[Abeltje]

{QUOTE-> Well if 3.0.551 is the final then I'm passing on NOD32 V3. :dry:
It's becoming clear that ESET needs tighter quality control and maybe form a specialized dedicated group of beta testers. <-QUOTE}

Hm, I think there are enough people who beta tested and reported issues. But if you then get as a reply that your issue is confirmed but cannot be taken care of as there are not enough ressources then all beta testing is of no use. I think they are too ambitious with this suite as they do not have the ressources to develop it carefully. If they cannot sort out the issues very quickly (which I'm not very optimistic about) they will for sure loose more and more customers.

I for myself don't see me buying ESS any time soon, although I was so much awaiting it. But there are simply too many things not well done, and this is a security application, errors within a program are simply not tollerable.

[Pwntje]

{QUOTE-> Hm, I think there are enough people who beta tested and reported issues. But if you then get as a reply that your issue is confirmed but cannot be taken care of as there are not enough ressources then all beta testing is of no use. I think they are too ambitious with this suite as they do not have the ressources to develop it carefully. If they cannot sort out the issues very quickly (which I'm not very optimistic about) they will for sure loose more and more customers.

I for myself don't see me buying ESS any time soon, although I was so much awaiting it. But there are simply too many things not well done, and this is a security application, errors within a program are simply not tollerable. <-QUOTE}
Every 1000 lines of code contain at least 10 faulty ones as an average. It doesnt matter which suite of product you take, everything contains faulty code, nothing can be perfect. But I'm sure Eset will take care of everything, and if it's not now then it might be later.

[mrtwolman]

{QUOTE-> looks very similar to the Kerio Personal Firewall that Sunbelt software (Counterspy) recently bought - perhaps the underlying code comes from them <-QUOTE}

No. :) FW is creation of our in-house coding freaks

[poutine]

{QUOTE-> Hm, I think there are enough people who beta tested and reported issues. But if you then get as a reply that your issue is confirmed but cannot be taken care of as there are not enough ressources then all beta testing is of no use. I think they are too ambitious with this suite as they do not have the ressources to develop it carefully. If they cannot sort out the issues very quickly (which I'm not very optimistic about) they will for sure loose more and more customers.

I for myself don't see me buying ESS any time soon, although I was so much awaiting it. But there are simply too many things not well done, and this is a security application, errors within a program are simply not tollerable. <-QUOTE}

Sad but i have to agree :(

[nodyforever]

Will it be what how much appears this mistake in the update I have that uninstall and install again?


Such it happens with another mistake "a mistake took place in the temporary filing cabinet while updating "


Will this be a bug?


In the versao RC1 it me did not happen at all of this and with this version already it me happened two times.


I wait what correct this phenomenon in the final version.

[nodyforever]

False Positives program....


Should we have informed of this the respective enterprise?

[dormix]

{QUOTE-> False Positives program....


Should we have informed of this the respective enterprise? <-QUOTE}

not here!

194831

[nodyforever]

{QUOTE-> not here!

194831 <-QUOTE}


I use the EAV not to ESS there will be reasons in order that the program detects the filing cabinets of the EAV and of the ESS not?


Is it how that the same program can give two opposite answers?


Thanks

[dormix]

{QUOTE-> I use the EAV not to ESS there will be reasons in order that the program detects the filing cabinets of the EAV and of the ESS not?




Thanks <-QUOTE}

I'm sorry I don't know why!
You're welcome

[nodyforever]

{QUOTE-> I'm sorry I don't know why!
You're welcome <-QUOTE}


Since stranger does not stop being to same.


Thanks or Greats

[ctrlaltdelete]

Nodyforever, download the latest version of Prevx CSI and scan again.

[recluta001]

{QUOTE-> Has anyone had the problem I'm having with ESET Smart Security 3.0.551.0?

I can no longer view computers in my workgroup. I can access the computers individually, but when I want to view the list of computers in my workgroup, it says...

"Workgroup is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Please contact the administrator of this server to find out if you have access permissions.

The list of servers for this workgroup is not currently available"

I'm running Windows XP Pro, and I have configured ESET Smart Security with Interactive Filtering, and allowed sharing. <-QUOTE}

We have the same problem and we are running Windows XP Pro x64, and we have configured the old ESET Smart Security 3.0.414.0, with Interactive Filtering, and allowed sharing, too.

[nodyforever]

{QUOTE-> Nodyforever, download the latest version of Prevx CSI and scan again. <-QUOTE}


Confirm...no false positives program


Thanks

[Steel]

Who will publish today's release? ESET - USA ?
What time is it in the States actualy ?

[proactivelover]

{QUOTE-> Who will publish today's release? ESET - USA ?
What time is it in the States actualy ? <-QUOTE}
It is still the 4th in the USA, so I would say some time within the next 12 hours at a guess

[Steel]

{QUOTE-> It is still the 4th in the USA, so I would say some time within the next 12 hours at a guess <-QUOTE}
That's why i'm asking who from ESET will release/ push it out first ?

[Ade 1]

It's on the UK site. Seems 3.0.551.0 is the final release build.

[dormix]

{QUOTE-> Since stranger does not stop being to same.


Thanks or Greats <-QUOTE}
Me lo puoi spiegare in italiano che non ho capito, per favore.




Grazie!

[Steel]

I don't think so. Remember, there is an further beta build 3.0.557.0, so the final must have an higher build.

Anyone knows more ?

[Big Apple]

Patience is a virtue.....have it if you can. It's seldom in a woman and never in a man....!

[Ade 1]

{QUOTE-> I don't think so. Remember, there is an further beta build 3.0.557.0, so the final must have an higher build.

Anyone knows more ? <-QUOTE}

The final release version on the UK site is indeed 3.0.551.0 so maybe we'll see a newer build in days/weeks to come but for now this is it.

[nodyforever]

{QUOTE-> Me lo puoi spiegare in italiano che non ho capito, per favore.




Grazie! <-QUOTE}


Nondimeno non arresta lo sconosciuto, ma ho aggiornato il programma e già non ha dato alcun positive falso.

Ringrazio per il vostro aiuto:)


Già ora parlo Portoghese


;D

[GAN]

{QUOTE-> It is still the 4th in the USA, so I would say some time within the next 12 hours at a guess <-QUOTE}
Well actually it's 5th in the states as well now, but still at night. Unless i'm wrong Hawaii is GMT-10, California GMT-8 and Florida/New York GMT-5. I would be surprised if the release today (if any at all) will contain bugfixes for all the reported issues found in 551 though. Seems like the UK site released version 3.0.551 which i uninstalled and reinstalled 2.7.

Even if i'm a bit curious it's not really a big deal for me since 2.7 work just fine and whatever is released today i think i will wait for a later release since i got a feeling many bugs is still unsolved.

[nodyforever]

{QUOTE-> I don't think so. Remember, there is an further beta build 3.0.557.0, so the final must have an higher build.

Anyone knows more ? <-QUOTE}


The ESET in my perspective would not be going to launch the version 551 as final version when what saw and since we can visualize it had and it has not immense any mistakes others were corrected they are because of correcting then we still have to wait so that the version appears eventually for 557 or above:)


The ESET never stopped us hands you shake it, he always knew surprising.


We are going to have some patience

[nodyforever]

San Diego, California, United States

Current time Monday, November 5, 2007 at 2:37:09 AM PST
UTC/GMT Offset
Standard time zone: UTC/GMT -8 hours
No daylight saving time at the moment
Time zone abbreviation: PST - Pacific Standard Time


Bratislava, Slovak Republic

Current time Monday, November 5, 2007 at 11:53:47 AM CET
UTC/GMT Offset
Standard time zone: UTC/GMT +1 hour
No daylight saving time at the moment
Time zone abbreviation: CET - Central European Time



PT - 10:37 am day 5

[Big Apple]

What on earth is the use of all these posts regarding timezones? Man oh man.......it'll be here when it's ready!

[nodyforever]

{QUOTE-> What on earth is the use of all these posts regarding timezones? Man oh man.......it'll be here when it's ready! <-QUOTE}



Simply I put in order that we had a notion instead of they to be I do not know how many persons to ask which hours are it USA us that it is for a question of merit it is not that it is interesting:)


But I am of I bring Big Apple into line with you in same.


Thanks

[Big Apple]

{QUOTE-> Simply I put in order that we had a notion instead of they to be I do not know how many persons to ask which hours are it USA us that it is for a question of merit it is not that it is interesting:)


But I am of I bring Big Apple into line with you in same.


Thanks <-QUOTE}

You have a lot of posts which I find very hard to understand.

[GAN]

{QUOTE-> What on earth is the use of all these posts regarding timezones? Man oh man.......it'll be here when it's ready! <-QUOTE}
I'm in no rush since i use version 2.7, but according to eset it should be ready Nov 5th and some people are waiting for the release....that's why the timezones. It's pretty simple.

[Ade 1]

{QUOTE-> You have a lot of posts which I find very hard to understand. <-QUOTE}

I agree - is it some kind of strange dialect (like from a Tolkien novel or other planet) or perhaps English isn't their first language. Either way, very confusing.

[GAN]

{QUOTE-> I agree - is it some kind of strange dialect (like from a Tolkien novel or other planet) or perhaps English isn't their first language. Either way, very confusing. <-QUOTE}
nodyforever wrote "sorry for my English" in some posts so I assume he/she is not a native English speaker.

[Big Apple]

{QUOTE-> nodyforever wrote "sorry for my English" in some posts so I assume he/she is not a native English speaker. <-QUOTE}

It's no problem not being a native English speaker, but at least try to make it a little more understandable.

[Big Apple]

{QUOTE-> I'm in no rush since i use version 2.7, but according to eset it should be ready Nov 5th and some people are waiting for the release....that's why the timezones. It's pretty simple. <-QUOTE}

If it is that simple, why all the hassle about a few hours time difference in releasing software?

[GAN]

{QUOTE-> It's no problem not being a native English speaker, but at least try to make it a little more understandable. <-QUOTE}
Maybe the reason why it's sometimes hard to understand is because his first language isn't English. I'm pretty sure he try to do his best.....find it hard to believe he make it hard to read on purpose.

{QUOTE-> If it is that simple, why all the hassle about a few hours time difference in releasing software? <-QUOTE}
What is simple is the answer to your question were you asked "why all the posts about timezones". Some pepople seems to be pretty eager to try the new version. Don't let it bother you.

A bit grumpy today?:)

[duca bianco]

This:)
http://download2.eset.com/eval/win/ess/ess_nt32_enu.msi ::)