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tamba1
October 27th, 2007, 04:37 AM
Hi can someone give me some advice on this please ..

My parent inlaws are about to start using broadband and will soon be venturing into the world of Instant messaging..

Although I have talked to them about the many online risks and how to avoid them I am concerned that they may still try to accept files that could be malicous .. Is there any Antivirus/Antispyware sware that can help to protect them from this risk?

They will be using Yahoo Msgr and MSN Mssgr - though I am open to any suggestions regarding any better/more secure combi messenger tools.. (Flexible messaging systems enabling you to talk to people who use any of the other main messaging tools )I have personally not used one of these combi ones before ..but have heard of the following ones ...Miranda, Trillian, Meebo ..

They are currently using WinXPSp2 with Firewall enabled running AVG 7.5 Free ,AVG antispyware free , and AVG Rootkit Free .. They are using Firefox and various addons including Noscript and Adblock plus working behind a NATRouter and the following sware has been installed to regularly scan and in the event of problems clean up their PC.

Link Scanner
Dr Web

Superantispyware
Spywareblaster
Spybot Search & Destroy
Adaware 2007
CW Shredder
CCleaner

I have been wondering about installing HIPS for them but I think anything that is too "noisy" asking for lots of confirmations/approvals will bee too much for them ..any comments or suggestions?

Also I think Remote Assistance wll be a useful tool for me to help him over the coming months and , I would like to know the "safest" way of using this tool .. including firewall confgurations etc

I look forward to your Advice
tamba1

cheater87
October 27th, 2007, 09:21 AM
Avast has IM scanning in one of its shields. You can get them the free home version.

Hipgnosis
October 27th, 2007, 09:57 AM
I'd also say use Avast Home with the Instant Messenger protection module and dump AVG Antivirus.

StevieE9
October 27th, 2007, 10:23 AM
Well, no definitions based AV program is going to be foolproof and I simply don't agree that Avast is better than AVG, and more importantly, spyware is much more likely and won't be caught by any AV program.
However, MSN has the option to link directly to your onboard AV program of choice.

They should *not* have any option in any Messenger, or multi-messenger program to auto-accept files or invites.

The simplest thing is for them to remember to right-click context menu scan all downloads with both anti-spyware and AV programs; only accept downloads from genuinely known contacts; only accept downloads that are things they genuinely want; investigate what they are being sent via a web search first; generally exercise caution.

As far as a multi-protocol messenger is concerned, the open source free 'Pidgin' (formerly 'Gaim') is, IMHO, the best:
http://majorgeeks.com/Pidgin_d4262.html

Empath
October 27th, 2007, 12:49 PM
You could run Sandboxie, and designate the instant message app as running sandboxed. That way, whatever is done during the session is discarded with the sandbox.

tamba1
November 30th, 2007, 05:38 AM
Hmm Empath I am quite tempted by Sandboxie

Is it user friendly and "easy to use"

Many Thanks
tamba1

Mrkvonic
November 30th, 2007, 06:53 AM
Hello,

Use open-source Pidgin - it can use yahoo and msn networks, but is safer, nicer, far less bloated.

You might want to sandbox the messenger when running - SandboxIE, DefenseWall, DropMyRights ...

Do not access messages from random morons

Do not click on links, videos, images etc sent by people under the age of 30, by people who use lol in their daily or strangers.

If you must accept files and such, do scan them with an anti-virus.

Mrk

Cerxes
November 30th, 2007, 06:59 AM
Sandboxie is very user friendly. I recommend the paid version so you can get the forced feature where selected programs runs directly sandboxed when executed.

Regarding remote controll I recommend RealVNC using Hamachi as VPN, both free and it´s very safe. Here´s a tutorial how to setup the programs:

http://www.help2go.com/Tutorials/Software_Utilities/Remote_Control_Another_PC_Securely_with_VNC_and_Hamachi.html

{QUOTE-> ...Do not access messages from random morons...Do not click on links, videos, images etc sent by people under the age of 30, by people who use lol in their daily or strangers... <-QUOTE}
lol ;D

/C.

Tokar
November 30th, 2007, 08:49 AM
{QUOTE-> Hmm Empath I am quite tempted by Sandboxie

Is it user friendly and "easy to use"

Many Thanks
tamba1 <-QUOTE}

tamba1 - if you are going to use sandbox, nothing beats Returinil Virtual System (RVS).

Its free.
And it works so that anything that is done to the hard drive during the windows session is instantly removed during reboot.

Sandboxie is fine, but RVS is much better. Just reboot your computer, and all crap is gone!

solcroft
November 30th, 2007, 10:06 AM
{QUOTE-> Sandboxie is fine, but RVS is much better. Just reboot your computer, and all crap is gone! <-QUOTE}
And with it all the things you'd potentially rather keep.

I find Returnil more useful for enforcing baseline configurations. As an everyday security app, it's just too annoying, unless you don't often make changes to your computer that you want to save.

Chuck57
November 30th, 2007, 01:37 PM
I no longer have any instant messengers on my system except msn messenger and it isn't even set up. I did click on it and it can be run isolated. Seems geswall might be a good, safe and secure option.

Tokar
November 30th, 2007, 07:49 PM
{QUOTE-> And with it all the things you'd potentially rather keep.

I find Returnil more useful for enforcing baseline configurations. As an everyday security app, it's just too annoying, unless you don't often make changes to your computer that you want to save. <-QUOTE}

well people of course need to be aware of this, however this is why they enable the virtual drive to store all data you want to save.

LoneWolf
December 1st, 2007, 04:43 PM
{QUOTE-> You could run Sandboxie, and designate the instant message app as running sandboxed. That way, whatever is done during the session is discarded with the sandbox. <-QUOTE}

Some very good advice here. ;D

aigle
December 1st, 2007, 06:21 PM
Hi tamba1!

Use any sandbox: Sandboxie, GesWall, or DefenceWall.