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eniqmah
September 21st, 2007, 02:39 PM
Hello,

Because I run my system scans while in Deepfreeze mode, I would have to reboot and manually remove infected files that have been found. My question is: if my scanner finds a file that's infected and the file is not a system file or program file, I can just navigate to the directory and delete the file, correct?

Thanks for reponse.

zapjb
September 21st, 2007, 02:43 PM
I don't use Deepfreeze.

Doesn't just a reboot restore the system to pristine condition?

Perman
September 21st, 2007, 03:10 PM
Hi, folks: Since you use DF, May I suggest this:
Run your anti-malware app in Frozen mode; if any is found. Then reboot to thawed mode, run the same app again. And let the app to remove these malwares, providing this app has an undo option. IMO, manual removal is not efficient, nor effective as app.

ErikAlbert
September 21st, 2007, 06:46 PM
DeepFreeze installed and still having malware ? You must have installed DF on a dirty system or you turned it off, when it was supposed to be turned on.

zapjb
September 21st, 2007, 07:34 PM
-{ Quote: "DeepFreeze installed and still having malware ? You must have installed DF on a dirty system or you turned it off, when it was supposed to be turned on." }-
My thoughts.

BlueZannetti
September 21st, 2007, 07:48 PM
-{ Quote: "You must have installed DF on a dirty system or you turned it off, " }-or it's a transient file until a cleansing reboot, or it's a false positive, or a gray area file (i.e. questionable - could go either way - potential false positive).

Blue

Perman
September 21st, 2007, 07:56 PM
Hi, folks: Any malware lodged onto your box with DF's freeze mode on will certainly be removed upon reboot. Occasionally, tracking cookies may be implanted onto your box during new app d/l with DF's thawed mode on, therefore a reliable on demand AS scanner can be very handy (I use SAS, and have Prevx2 , threatrfire, AV, Boclean on guard real time)). After system is free of any infection, I freeze drive and conduct my daily routines. I am quite content with this setup.

ErikAlbert
September 21st, 2007, 08:01 PM
-{ Quote: "or it's a transient file until a cleansing reboot, or it's a false positive, or a gray area file (i.e. questionable - could go either way - potential false positive).

Blue" }-
or it can be an excluded object (I don't know if that is possible in DF), which is the same as anchoring objects in FDISR.
Each anchored folder/file in a frozen snapshot is a potential danger to get infected.
I'm not saying that this can't happen to me, but I can fix it immediately, because my recovery is also layered, just like security can be layered.

eniqmah
September 21st, 2007, 08:49 PM
-{ Quote: "DeepFreeze installed and still having malware ? You must have installed DF on a dirty system or you turned it off, when it was supposed to be turned on." }-

Scanners have found files lying around on other partitions that are not frozen. I also mess around with applications all the time, so this particular snapshot is not "clean".

I can thaw the system and run a scanner, let the scanner do the clean up...but that defeats the purpose of my question...What's the difference between my manual deletion of a noncritical file and the deletion of said file by my AV? In my experience, there is none, just thought I'd ask.

BlueZannetti
September 21st, 2007, 09:07 PM
-{ Quote: "What's the difference between my manual deletion of a noncritical file and the deletion of said file by my AV? In my experience, there is none, just thought I'd ask." }-For most purposes, there is none. However, many programs do not actually delete the flagged file, they move it to a quarantine folder, which is distinct from and beyond the standard recycle bin.

Blue

ErikAlbert
September 21st, 2007, 11:01 PM
-{ Quote: "Scanners have found files lying around on other partitions that are not frozen. I also mess around with applications all the time, so this particular snapshot is not "clean"." }-
Oh I see, you have more than one partition, in that case it's understandable.
I always assume that people have one harddisk/one partition with everything on it.
I guess you separated your system from data, like me. Good practice.
I also have that problem, my data partition isn't protected either.
After having solved my system partition problems, I will try to take care of my data partition.
KAV, NOD32, SAS + other scanners couldn't find any threat on both partitions, so it can't be that bad, but I have to find a solution to protect my data partition and possible other partitions (maybe a video partition) in the future and close to 100%.
I can't do it all at once. :)

kennyboy
September 22nd, 2007, 01:35 AM
-{ Quote: "
After having solved my system partition problems, I will try to take care of my data partition.
KAV, NOD32, SAS + other scanners couldn't find any threat on both partitions, so it can't be that bad, but I have to find a solution to protect my data partition and possible other partitions (maybe a video partition) in the future and close to 100%.
I can't do it all at once. :)" }-

Erik. That is why I am waiting with interest for you to try Shadow Defender. Not in a position to do this myself at present, but as it protects multiple partitions/drives, it could be an answer for you.