New defragger from makers of ccleaner

[stapp]

Piriform, the makers of Ccleaner, have announced a new free product called defraggler

http://www.defraggler.com/

[cheater87]

Is this out of beta mode??? If so goodbye AusLogics. ^_^

[ErikAlbert]

{QUOTE-> Is this out of beta mode??? If so goodbye AusLogics. ^_^ <-QUOTE}
Not according this website.
http://www.defraggler.com/download

[cheater87]

I'll wait till its out of beta.

[WSFuser]

Ill try it later today though already I dislike the name.

[Woody777]

It looks like all the other Piri progs. Simple & easy to operate. If it works like I think it will really put a dent in the Defragmenter market especially for those who don't need all of the fancy bells & whistles that Perfect Disk & DiskKeeper offer.

[TOMxEU]

Great thanks for the info. I just tried it and I like the detail info and settings too. :)
I would appreciate some log, but I am sure, that they will add it later, so far so good.

[Long View]

I have just tried it and as there are no options there is not much to try. I must be missing something here because if someone just wants a basic defrag program what is wrong with the one that comes with XP for free ?

[WSFuser]

After trying it, I must say Defraggler seems nice and fairly fast.

[cheater87]

The XP one is a stripped down version.

[Arup]

Currently few free defraggers available can do offline defrag of system files at boot, thats the biggest hinderance facing free stuff, till they implement that, paid defraggers will sell.

[TOMxEU]

{QUOTE-> I must be missing something here because if someone just wants a basic defrag program what is wrong with the one that comes with XP for free ? <-QUOTE}
Not sure about XP's, but in comparision to Vista's anything is better, because Vista's defrag (http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/5206/capture09182007081342vj6.jpg) is more than basic, it is pre-basic, not to mention, that it takes ages and when I run it again, it takes ages again, unlike normal defrag soft, which takes long time at first and then it defrags only, what has been fragmented. ;)

[Long View]

{QUOTE-> The XP one is a stripped down version. <-QUOTE}
Thats the point - it is not the full bloated Exec software version.

I keep trying the basic version with Deepfreeze6 and then comparing with Perfect Disk. It is difficult to decide which is better but overall the basic Xp version seems to have the edge. certainly I would never go back to using an unfrozen machine. Defrag the way you want and then set it. at every reboot you have a drive as good as you are going to get. So if you want to use this new defrag consider deepfreeze or with enough memory Returnil.

[Long View]

{QUOTE-> Not sure about XP's, but in comparision to Vista's anything is better, because Vista's defrag (http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/5206/capture09182007081342vj6.jpg) is more than basic, it is pre-basic, not to mention, that it takes ages and when I run it again, it takes ages again, unlike normal defrag soft, which takes long time at first and then it defrags only, what has been fragmented. ;) <-QUOTE}


Have been using my P4 2.4 for a couple of hours now. Booted with Deepfreeze.
Full defrag with Xp took 35 seconds. Perfect disk would be faster but although I will probably go back to PD the Xp defrag is not all that bad.

[lodore]

i dont think its gonna beat jk defrag thou.
for a test yesterday i used jk defrag on my test pc.
then i installed perfect disk and done an analisys and it reeported 0 percent fragmentation.
so it seems the jk defrag is very decent.
i might try the defragger from the makers of ccleaner once its out of beta.
lodore

[rdsu]

Nothing special...

[simmikie]

with Shadowprotect and FDISR onboard do i dare defrag?


Mike

[Huupi]

{QUOTE-> with Shadowprotect and FDISR onboard do i dare defrag?


Mike <-QUOTE}

Every move,delete,edit or copying of files cause fragmentation very fast,even with SP and FDISR onboard.Yes after defrag and a following copy/update of snapshots or archives will cause these files grow bigger.

[simmikie]

{QUOTE-> Every move,delete,edit or copying of files cause fragmentation very fast,even with SP and FDISR onboard.Yes after defrag and a following copy/update of snapshots or archives will cause these files grow bigger. <-QUOTE}

doesn't defrag reduce wasted space? why would snapshots grow larger? and please understand i am not arguing, simply atempting to understand. and also, my orginal statement i was really asking, since these programs have their mits so deep into the harddrive, is there a liklihood of issues with a defrag?


Mike

[Peter2150]

{QUOTE-> Every move,delete,edit or copying of files cause fragmentation very fast,even with SP and FDISR onboard.Yes after defrag and a following copy/update of snapshots or archives will cause these files grow bigger. <-QUOTE}

First. Mike sure I defrag all the time with SP and FDISR no issues.

Huupi. You are thinking of incremental snapshots based on sector locations. Only thing I've seen make an FDISR grow is adding files. Defragging makes no difference in size.

With SP on one machine I am running continous incrementals, and I've defragged, and the next incremental takes longer as it has to find stuff, but there isn't much of a size i mpact. If you make manual images, defragging is actually a good idea.

Pete

[simmikie]

{QUOTE-> First. Mike sure I defrag all the time with SP and FDISR no issues.

Huupi. You are thinking of incremental snapshots based on sector locations. Only thing I've seen make an FDISR grow is adding files. Defragging makes no difference in size.

With SP on one machine I am running continous incrementals, and I've defragged, and the next incremental takes longer as it has to find stuff, but there isn't much of a size i mpact. If you make manual images, defragging is actually a good idea.

Pete <-QUOTE}

then it will be done. thanks Huppi....Pete.


Mike

[maddawgz]

I use Perfect Disc 8.0 think that's the best there is , what is fraggler like anyone tried it? MD

[WSFuser]

Defraggler (currently) simply defrags files. It doesnt optimize or consolidate them and it has no boot defrag.

[Huupi]

{QUOTE-> First. Mike sure I defrag all the time with SP and FDISR no issues.

Huupi. You are thinking of incremental snapshots based on sector locations. Only thing I've seen make an FDISR grow is adding files. Defragging makes no difference in size.

With SP on one machine I am running continous incrementals, and I've defragged, and the next incremental takes longer as it has to find stuff, but there isn't much of a size i mpact. If you make manual images, defragging is actually a good idea.

Pete <-QUOTE}

In line of any logic and reason it should be what you said but in my experience these snapshots grow after defrag,to be 100 % sure i will test this once again and will post back.

[TOMxEU]

I have just run Auslogics Defrag, which I used a few months before, and the results are quite interesting. Simply put, it defragmented nothing, since everything already was and it finished faster than ever before, because Defraggler also puts files in a line, unlike Auslogics Defrag. I consider it for a really star beginning, especially since it is only a version 1 and still in beta. Obviously Piriform is guarantee of quality, I wish, that they would also make a reg defrag and cleaner.

[WSFuser]

CCleaner already has a registry cleaner but I agree a registry defrag would be nice.

[TOMxEU]

{QUOTE-> CCleaner already has a registry cleaner <-QUOTE}
Yes, but it is quite weak, though safe, but it is understandable, why they do not want to make it stronger or shall I say, more dangerous. ;)

[MerleOne]

I just tried defraggler, and on several drives, it stops saying analysis incomplete. Does anyone already had this error message ?

Thanks.

[TOMxEU]

Since it is still in beta, it can contain bugs, please report it to Defraggler's Forum (http://forum.piriform.com/index.php?showforum=19).

[MerleOne]

{QUOTE-> Since it is still in beta, it can contain bugs, please report it to Defraggler's Forum (http://forum.piriform.com/index.php?showforum=19). <-QUOTE}

Thanks, I have reported the pb there.

Also, after reboot, it was gone.