Spybot - Search & Destroy 1.5 Released!

[Nubiatech]

{QUOTE-> Why the small version number jump to 1.5 instead of 2.0?
For us, major number changes mean complete rewrites, while minor version number changes mean improvement of existing functionality. If you want a name that sounds more up-to-date, feel free to call it Spybot-S&D 2007 or 2008. <-QUOTE}

{QUOTE-> Works with Windows Vista(TM) Does it support Windows Vista? Is Windows 95 supported again?
Yes, we do now support the newest Vista (more here), and we do also support Windows 95 again (the installer is able to download and install necessary Win95 updates if you want it to do so). It also runs on Wine. <-QUOTE}

http://www.safer-networking.org/en/spybotsd15/index.html

[Pedro]

Good news thank you. I'll have a look :)

[mercurie]

Yes, great news indeed. I like SAS, but have a warm place under my wing and in my feathers for SpyBot too. ;D :thumb:

[Mele20]

I had problems with it. No list of products it protects against. It only listed the two that I had excluded in 1.4. I was not impressed with the Fx and Opera protection and unchecked all that in immunize. I also noted that it by default has its own Hosts file checked which conflicts with HostsMan. I also noticed that TeaTimer was checked by default. I don't recall that being the case with 1.4 so I'm glad I looked all around as I never have liked TeaTimer. I never ran a full scan with it because of the no list of products!

I uninstalled 1.5 and then tried to run 1.4. The 1.5 uninstaller evidently also took pieces of 1.4 with it. So, I tried to run the 1.4 uninstaller to finish the unwanted uninstallation of 1.4 and the uninstaller said it couldn't find a necessary file so it couldn't run. I then went to Add/remove programs and was able to uninstall 1.4 from there.

I then rebooted and opened Fx and found my home page had been tampered with. It was changed from dslreports postlist page to about:blank. That had to been something to do with Spybot. I'm not going to reinstall Spybot.

[omegakilo]

Thanks for the good news!
Does it have a better detection rate now?

[argus tuft]

No real problems here, except that the immunization no's don't add up.

Unprotected: 0
Immunized:66297
Total:66433
???

[Skytrooper]

{QUOTE-> No real problems here, except that the immunization no's don't add up.

Unprotected: 0
Immunized:66297
Total:66433
??? <-QUOTE}

On my Vista PC, I get these immunization numbers:

Unprotected: 0
Protected: 66297
Total: 66443

However, on my XP PC, the immunization numbers agree:

Unprotected: 0
Protected: 66443
Total: 66443

[argus tuft]

I'm on xp...
It is strange that your vista installation shows the exact same numbers though.

[btman]

Detects bearshare... Don't tell me this AND Super aren't going to remove it now... Stubborn...

[cheater87]

It works A ok with Spyware Terminator's Immunizer. No conflicts reported.

[Pedro]

I uninstalled 1.4 to install 1.5 fresh.
It seems that the installer won't comply with DEP in "AlwaysOn". Tried 1.4 installer and it won't work either (i did install it before changing boot.ini).

I will try installing it in OptOut, then going back. But if this is confirmed to be an issue with DEP, they should fix it imo.

Anyone registered in the Safer Networking Forums?

[zapjb]

I am registered in SN forum. And I'm having an annoying problem that I posted there w/v1.5:

Updated to 1.5. By uninstalling 1.4 1st. Didn't want the double entry in A/R. Running XP VLK SP2 32bit.

Downloaded like 10 updates. 2 remaining updates kept on failing. Dl'd the separate 2007-08-29 update package.

Checked within SSD for updates again. 1 update was left. And the Immunization datbase from 2007-07-25 returns !!! bad checksum ! error. Tried all the different dl locations. All fail.


Uninstalled & reinstalled. Same thing!

V1.5 can't download Immunization database 2007-07-25. Returns !!! bad checksum ! error. Tried all different download locations. All fail.

I need help with this. This is NOT ok.

Thanks.

[ccsito]

{QUOTE-> On my Vista PC, I get these immunization numbers:

Unprotected: 0
Protected: 66297
Total: 66443

However, on my XP PC, the immunization numbers agree:

Unprotected: 0
Protected: 66443
Total: 66443 <-QUOTE}

Just a guess, but maybe certain items in Vista don't (or can't) be protected? ???

[mercurie]

Yikes...:o glad I waited. I'll stick to the old version for now. :dry:

[Joliet Jake]

Downloaded, installed, updated and it's worked like a charm. No mismatch in the immunisation numbers either.

[innerpeace]

I'm glad to see a new version. It was always a useful tool. I will however wait a bit for the little bugs to get fixed ;D .

[argus tuft]

{QUOTE-> Just a guess, but maybe certain items in Vista don't (or can't) be protected? ??? <-QUOTE}

I've got the same numbers as Skytroopers' vista installation, but on xp...

[cheater87]

No mismatch in numbers for me as well.

[Vietnam Vet]

{QUOTE-> I had problems with it. No list of products it protects against. It only listed the two that I had excluded in 1.4. I was not impressed with the Fx and Opera protection and unchecked all that in immunize. I also noted that it by default has its own Hosts file checked which conflicts with HostsMan. I also noticed that TeaTimer was checked by default. I don't recall that being the case with 1.4 so I'm glad I looked all around as I never have liked TeaTimer. I never ran a full scan with it because of the no list of products! <-QUOTE}

@Mele20,

During the install, there is a box that is checked by default called Download Updates Immediately. If you leave that box checked it should try to download the updates during the installation, not after. The app does not come with the database already installed, neither did 1.4 version. I am on a dialup and since the update isn't done during the install, I only have two products listed(cdilla is one, don't recall the other). After the install and configuring the app the way I want it, I download the updates. Updating was no problem for me, by the way. As expected, full list now in place.

No problems for me concerning hosts file(I don't use a hosts file anyway). TeaTimer was installed by default for me as well, I do not use that either. Uncheck in the config, gone. No harm, no foul.

Concerning Spybot's immunization, I do not use that. I no longer remember the specifics, but the 1.4 version has had longstanding problems with that on 9x versions of windows, but worked properly on XP, as I recall. It was well-documented on the Net-Integration forums at the time. Also, if you use the ZonedOut app to "remove all" restricted sites while using Spybot's immunization, it was goodbye to any trusted sites as well. Without Spybot's immunization, that problem went away. Do not know whether or not the 1.5 version has the same effect.

This is just a FWIW post with my experience, not trying to sway anyone, pro or con.
Best wishes,
VV

[GrailVanGogh]

{QUOTE-> I had problems with it. No list of products it protects against. It only listed the two that I had excluded in 1.4. I was not impressed with the Fx and Opera protection and unchecked all that in immunize. I also noted that it by default has its own Hosts file checked which conflicts with HostsMan. I also noticed that TeaTimer was checked by default. I don't recall that being the case with 1.4 so I'm glad I looked all around as I never have liked TeaTimer. I never ran a full scan with it because of the no list of products!

I uninstalled 1.5 and then tried to run 1.4. The 1.5 uninstaller evidently also took pieces of 1.4 with it. So, I tried to run the 1.4 uninstaller to finish the unwanted uninstallation of 1.4 and the uninstaller said it couldn't find a necessary file so it couldn't run. I then went to Add/remove programs and was able to uninstall 1.4 from there.

I then rebooted and opened Fx and found my home page had been tampered with. It was changed from dslreports postlist page to about:blank. That had to been something to do with Spybot. I'm not going to reinstall Spybot. <-QUOTE}

NO problems at all with the Spybot S & D update.

Installed over the beta version on my notebook and a fresh install on the desktop.

The home page(s) were not tampered with at all.

I was asked if I wanted to use the Teatimer as normal and after updating the program all was it was before which is to say working nicely.

Sorry to hear you had such issues but I am not at all surprised as you seem to have more then a few software update issues which may point to a problem with your way of doing things and not the programs fault.

[cheater87]

I experienced quite a lot of internet lag with this new version of Spybot. So I had to uninstall it. Has anyone else had this problem???

[Perman]

Hi, folks: would the type of Internet browser have to do with this problem? I am using IE7, no change has been observed.

[cheater87]

I was using the latest version of Firefox.

[Perman]

Hi, folks: Spybot S&D 1.5 has a new feature for Firefox and Mozilla-immunization. An improved one for Opera.

[Pedro]

I'm seing the same Cheater. I can't unprotect firefox either.
Scanning seems heavier, maybe it's due to improvements.
The install package does not work under DEP "AlwaysOn", i confirmed by trying OptOut. Once installed it does run under AlwaysOn, so it's something about the installer, or Windows..

Anyone care to report these bugs (zapjb ? ), or should i email? I'm not about to register to more forums. Well if i have to :P

[Togg]

Trouble free so far on XP Home. I didn't opt for Tea Timer to run nor for immediate updates (I don't do installations while online!) and I didn't uninstall 1.4 first.

The whole definitions update thing went well (nice new interface) and today's were also trouble free.

Scan time seemed about the same but I wasn't timing it. My immunization numbers agree at 66402, slightly less than some others who posted theirs, can't say I'm too bothered.

[cheater87]

I was able to unimmunize and uninstall ok. Firefox is faster now.

[Perman]

Hi, folks: Hi, cheater87: glad to hear that. Hope ST's immunization can fill that role for you. Good luck.

[interstate ron]

Everything fine with it here. Ditched Firefox went with Opera and could kick myself for not doing it sooner.

[cheater87]

h'm using Spyware Terminator's immunizer for now.

[GrailVanGogh]

{QUOTE-> I experienced quite a lot of internet lag with this new version of Spybot. So I had to uninstall it. Has anyone else had this problem??? <-QUOTE}

Not experiencing any lag at all.

Fx, Opera, or Avant/IE

Running full Immunization and Spybot hosts file.

[zapjb]

{QUOTE-> Everything fine with it here. Ditched Firefox went with Opera and could kick myself for not doing it sooner. <-QUOTE}
;D Congrats.

[ccsito]

{QUOTE-> I've got the same numbers as Skytroopers' vista installation, but on xp... <-QUOTE}

That is very odd. Not sure why your XP count is the same as his Vista's count? ??? Maybe it is a hard coded number in the program (as in just give them a value and make them feel "OK")? :D

[Deke]

I am showing over 800 unprotected under \Software(Plugins). I tried somebody's suggestion from another forum to reimmunize again to no avail.

[hotasy2k]

Install S&D 1.5 yesterday, previously using 1.4, am using XP, and so far no major problem, immunization work ok, only issue i have is i can only scan using the the scan priority set to normal, anything higher will cause 100% usage to my cpu and hang it, hope they fix this issue soon, otherwise this is a great software.

[Deke]

I did and "Undo" then reimmunized and everything is okay now.

[Bio-Hazard]

{QUOTE-> I experienced quite a lot of internet lag with this new version of Spybot. So I had to uninstall it. Has anyone else had this problem??? <-QUOTE}

I had aswell, but i traced down to Immunize function so undid everything and internet is working fine. I use Spywareblaster anyway so i dont need that function.

[Mele20]

{QUOTE-> @Mele20,

During the install, there is a box that is checked by default called Download Updates Immediately. If you leave that box checked it should try to download the updates during the installation, not after. The app does not come with the database already installed, neither did 1.4 version. I am on a dialup and since the update isn't done during the install, I only have two products listed(cdilla is one, don't recall the other). After the install and configuring the app the way I want it, I download the updates. Updating was no problem for me, by the way. As expected, full list now in place.

No problems for me concerning hosts file(I don't use a hosts file anyway). TeaTimer was installed by default for me as well, I do not use that either. Uncheck in the config, gone. No harm, no foul.

Concerning Spybot's immunization, I do not use that. I no longer remember the specifics, but the 1.4 version has had longstanding problems with that on 9x versions of windows, but worked properly on XP, as I recall. It was well-documented on the Net-Integration forums at the time. Also, if you use the ZonedOut app to "remove all" restricted sites while using Spybot's immunization, it was goodbye to any trusted sites as well. Without Spybot's immunization, that problem went away. Do not know whether or not the 1.5 version has the same effect.

This is just a FWIW post with my experience, not trying to sway anyone, pro or con.
Best wishes,
VV <-QUOTE}


I never allow update during the install. I don't want corrupt updates and that is what I get with all servers except Safer-Networking in Europe and I cannot control what server is used if the update takes place during the install. If you have never had problems with corrupt updates from all servers except Safer then I can sort of see why you allowed that but I still think that should not even be a choice. For one thing, if you access through a proxy, the updating will fail because you have not yet set that. Updating should be done after installation and after you fix all settings IMO.

But updating has nothing to do with why that page was blank. When I used System Restore to restore back to a point just before the installation of 1.5, I still had NO list of products yet I was fully up to date. Just now, I found new definitions available and I installed those on 1.4 and I STILL have NO list of products protected against. The page is completely blank. A scan runs just fine so the data base is there. It just is not showing on the ignore products page for some reason.

[Mele20]

{QUOTE-> I was able to unimmunize and uninstall ok. Firefox is faster now. <-QUOTE}

Yes, you are not alone. Posts at GRC Software Security NG and Mozillazine indicate that there will likely be severe performance problems with Fx if one immunizes in 1.5 for Fx. This evidently is due to the large number of lines added to your hostperm.1 file in your profile. This can make the size of the file large enough to have a severe impact on Fx performance. One tester stated that he started with a clean install of Fx and a borrowed hostperm.1 file (as that file doesn't exist on a clean new install) from another computer that was 45KB in size. Immunizing Fx caused the file to swell to 636KB and cause severe performance problems.

http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?p=3042843#3042843
http://12078.net/grcnews/article.php?id=119661&group=grc.security.software#119661

[cheater87]

I hope they come out with a fix for this. If they do I would gladly reinstall it.

[Vietnam Vet]

Hi Mele20,

{QUOTE-> After the install and configuring the app the way I want it, I download the updates. <-QUOTE}

I do believe that you misread my post. I did not allow the app to update during the install. In fact the install was done with the firewall, anti-virus, etc. turned off, so the last place I want to be is online at that time.

On my system, before the update was done, the only thing I had listed was the two entries that are shown on the Revision.sbi tab. After the update, everything is listed in it's proper place for me. As said before, my post was a for what it's worth relating my experience.

Best wishes,
VV

[Mele20]

Yes, I see now that I did misread it, sorry. But why did you go about updating during the install in the first two sentences when you then finally say you didn't do that? You have me confused. Besides, when updating is done has nothing to do with my not having the products list shown. There is some bug ...something blocking the list being shown. It may be something on my computer. I have not uninstalled 1.4 and then installed it again. That might fix it but that means a lot of rebooting and I hate to reboot.

[Vietnam Vet]

Mele20,

{QUOTE-> But why did you go about updating during the install in the first two sentences when you then finally say you didn't do that? You have me confused. <-QUOTE}

Let's see what I can do about getting you unconfused.
{QUOTE-> During the install, there is a box that is checked by default called Download Updates Immediately. If you leave that box checked it should try to download the updates during the installation, not after. <-QUOTE}
Those infamous first two sentences you refer to mention the Download Updates Immediately box and say that is checked by default. They go on to describe what happens if you leave the box checked. Period. End of story. It does not say one word about me attempting to update during installation.

{QUOTE-> Besides, when updating is done has nothing to do with my not having the products list shown. There is some bug ...something blocking the list being shown. It may be something on my computer. I have not uninstalled 1.4 and then installed it again. That might fix it but that means a lot of rebooting and I hate to reboot. <-QUOTE}

Used Goback to return system to the time just before the installation of Spybot 1.5. SDHelper is installed even though I unchecked it during the install, not the TeaTimer as I stated before. My bad! Still, unchecking it in the config settings causes the BHO to go away, so again, no harm, no foul.

After the install, there are 17 files in the Spybot Includes folder, only one of which is a .sbi file(revision.sbi) and that contains two entries. One(cdilla) is checked by default. After configuring the app to my liking, two more are added. After going online and updating, 17 more files are added, all of which are .sbi files. Also, on the File Sets tab, those same 17 additional .sbi file listings are now represented. Before, only the Integrated Search for Spybots listing with its 29 checks was listed(ignoring for now, the Useage Tracking entries and the lone Revision.sbi).

To me, that says the Includes database did not exist before I did the update. Keep in mind, that I uninstalled the 1.4 version, including leftover files and reg entries before installing 1.5 version. Since you did not uninstall 1.4, your mileage may vary.

But that doesn't change what I said about the database. I was referring to the install of 1.5. As stated, my post was about my experience. I referred to you to point out that the includes database was not installed with the app on my system in case you hadn't done an update yet and that was a possible reason for the missing listings. No more, no less.

What does the File Sets page show you on your system? Are the various .sbi (includes files) listed there?

One more thing I should clarify. This computer is a 7 year old Gateway with 98SE installed and the numbers I mentioned may not necessarily match up to what anyone on XP or Vista sees.

Best wishes,
VV

[GideonD]

Spyware Blaster and Spybot Immunization do not seem to play nice anymore. I cannot seem to unimmunize either, even after doing so in Spyware Blaster first. This isn't good!

[GideonD]

{QUOTE-> Spyware Blaster and Spybot Immunization do not seem to play nice anymore. I cannot seem to unimmunize either, even after doing so in Spyware Blaster first. This isn't good! <-QUOTE}

Okay it looks like it did unimmunize. It just took about an hour to do it.

[argus tuft]

{QUOTE-> That is very odd. Not sure why your XP count is the same as his Vista's count? ??? Maybe it is a hard coded number in the program (as in just give them a value and make them feel "OK")? :D <-QUOTE}

I finally worked out what the problem was, just have no clue how to fix it.

Spybot seems unable to immunize Opera cookies for some reason.

I undid the immunization (which as GideonD said, took about an hour), and then redid it. It now shows that opera cookies aren't protected.

[Hipgnosis]

No problem with Opera cookies and immunization here.....

[argus tuft]

This is what I get.

193274

[zapjb]

They fixed my update problem at the SSD forum. :)

[alonewolf1]

sorry to change the subject here but
does anybody no if the built in shredder in
spybot 1.5 was removed or place somewhere else
in 1.4 it could be found in the advance mode tools
section.

thanks

[Vietnam Vet]

alonewolf1,

The built-in shredder is gone. See this thread (http://forums.spybot.info/showthread.php?t=17612) at the SpyBot forums for more info.

Best wishes,
VV

[cheater87]

Anyone know how to get rid of the slowdown in Firefox???

[Perman]

Hi, folks: D/l a new database today. Scotty alerts that host files are to be changed. I OK the change. Next reboot, I lose the Internet connection. Any one has similar problems ?

[cheater87]

So this host file change will fix the Firefox problem???

[Perman]

HI, FOLKS: I do not know, I am using IE7 and has deleted Spybot-S&D. The problems went away. What a pain on the neck; hoping another layer of protection, and end up with more worries, not worth it. Here goes to my blacklist again.

[fred128]

This is an excellent file shredder you can use in place of Spybot's shredder:

http://www.fileshredder.org/

[fred128]

I honestly don't know why people are still enamored with Spybot. At best, the previous version had about 75,000 in its signature base. Even Adaware has over 112,000.

[ccsito]

{QUOTE-> So this host file change will fix the Firefox problem??? <-QUOTE}
No, I think the previous post was discussing what happened when he downloaded some host files (Scotty, I think, refers to the animation in WinPatrol). After he executed the update, he lost the internet connection. His post was not a reply to yours, but was another problem report from the update to Spybot that he experienced. Unfortunately, in forum posting, the sequencing of messages do not necessarily address those immediately preceding them.

[ccsito]

{QUOTE-> I honestly don't know why people are still enamored with Spybot. At best, the previous version had about 75,000 in its signature base. Even Adaware has over 112,000. <-QUOTE}
Maybe because it has been around since the days of Windows 95 and 98? PC users tend to be intractable with regards to security software. ;)