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EliteKiller
August 1st, 2007, 01:28 PM
http://www.activevirusshield.com/antivirus/freeav/index.adp?

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The download link (http://download.nullsoft.com/avs/AVS_v25.exe) to AVS is still active. Hopefully you guys stocked up on the keys!

RejZoR
August 1st, 2007, 01:38 PM
That sux badly. Weird AOL...::) McAfee is ok too, but i prefer Kaspersky Lab.

JerryM
August 1st, 2007, 01:39 PM
But would the old AVS still be able to update?
I notice in the new one it requires an aol.com email address.

Thanks,
Jerry

Bls440
August 1st, 2007, 01:39 PM
Damn, no !!!!

AVS was such a nice and efficient AV, for free !

I guess it won't be that powerful running McAfee engine :/

Thanasis159
August 1st, 2007, 01:45 PM
Too bad...

EliteKiller
August 1st, 2007, 01:47 PM
-{ Quote: "But would the old AVS still be able to update?
I notice in the new one it requires an aol.com email address.

Thanks,
Jerry" }-

By dead I mean no longer available. If you have it installed, or install it today with a working key, then it will continue to function.

RejZoR
August 1st, 2007, 01:57 PM
-{ Quote: "But would the old AVS still be able to update?
I notice in the new one it requires an aol.com email address.

Thanks,
Jerry" }-

Whats best of this is that it's a real f**kin' wonder to get this stupid AOL email.
Whenever i wanted to do that i got some sort of BS problems with their service.
And when i did managed to get there, they wanted far more details than i'll be ever willing to give away to anyone online. No to mention their stupid registration form nagged about ever damn thing. Telephone number for example? Why the hell do they need it? I'm using a cell phone only and i'm not giving away its number to anyone, especially not some stupid company from another continent. Lame.
avast! and AntiVir ftw.

JerryM
August 1st, 2007, 02:25 PM
-{ Quote: "By dead I mean no longer available. If you have it installed, or install it today with a working key, then it will continue to function." }-

Thanks, EK. I downloaded the old one, but do not intend to install it. I guess that one would need a key, and if not installed today a key would not be available. I downloaded it in case someone else missed it and needed it later. Is there a way to get a key without installing the program?

Best,
Jerry

19monty64
August 1st, 2007, 02:31 PM
-{ Quote: "Damn, no !!!!

AVS was such a nice and efficient AV, for free !

I guess it won't be that powerful running McAfee engine :/" }-
You got that right!!! I'd never put McLafee on a pc again!!! People warned us not to trust AOL!!! :thumbd: :thumbd: :thumbd:

the Tester
August 1st, 2007, 02:44 PM
I wonder why they switched?

pykko
August 1st, 2007, 03:02 PM
that's bad.... maybe KAV didn't allowed them to offer their technology for free. ???

19monty64
August 1st, 2007, 03:15 PM
-{ Quote: "http://www.activevirusshield.com/antivirus/freeav/index.adp?
The download link (http://download.nullsoft.com/avs/AVS_v25.exe) to AVS is still active. Hopefully you guys stocked up on the keys!" }-
The link is for the new 6.0.2 version that has the update-issues, so I guess that it how they get you to drop AVS. The neverending search for an a/v that is stable on my pc starts again! Hey KAV 7 is released now...

19monty64
August 1st, 2007, 04:05 PM
Hey, they are still giving out activation-keys for AVS, going thru the link provided by download dot com... :thumb:

PaulBB
August 1st, 2007, 04:17 PM
Anyone managed to get a direct download link to the brand new McAfee Virus Scan Plus-Special edition from AOL ? I'm already registered but i can't login and also i can't even create a new one.>:(

Durad
August 1st, 2007, 04:22 PM
wondering what is the reason for switching to McAfee :o Probably KAV did not want to include ADs or tracking components or KAV was marketing threat for US market ?????

ggf31416
August 1st, 2007, 04:25 PM
Probably the contract with Kaspersky allowed AOL to distribute the program for only one year

VikingStorm
August 1st, 2007, 04:40 PM
Well they didn't actually switch, they always had a free McAfee version.

zapjb
August 1st, 2007, 04:41 PM
I'm guessing AOL served it's purpose for KL.

The awareness for KL is way up. They don't need AOL anymore.

19monty64
August 1st, 2007, 04:51 PM
-{ Quote: "I'm guessing AOL served it's purpose for KL.

The awareness for KL is way up. They don't need AOL anymore." }-
I would agree with this. The chance of me going for KAV/KIS after AVS expires is 99%. This would probably be the case for a lot of other people.

JerryM
August 1st, 2007, 05:04 PM
-{ Quote: "Hey, they are still giving out activation-keys for AVS, going thru the link provided by download dot com... :thumb:" }-

Hi Monty,
I can't find the link. Could you help?

EDIT
I found it. "Even a blind hog finds an occasional acorn." Thanks again.

Thanks,
Jerry

Macstorm
August 1st, 2007, 05:08 PM
haha such poor aol service is getting what they deserves now :thumbd:

PaulBB
August 1st, 2007, 05:10 PM
-{ Quote: "Hi Monty,
I can't find the link. Could you help?" }-

AVS:
http://download.nullsoft.com/avs/AVS_v25.exe

Free key:
http://www.activevirusshield.com/antivirus/freeav/get_started.adp

zopzop
August 1st, 2007, 05:10 PM
hmm this news isn't good :( but to tell you guys the truth, i went on over to see what was up with the "new" version of aol antivirus. i'm looking over the list of features it provides and i must say they "look" impressive. antivirus, firewall, antispyware all in one package. the firewall has some IDS features too. this actually seems like an upgrade, unless mcafee antivirus really is that much inferior to KAV.

danieleb
August 1st, 2007, 05:20 PM
It's not the first time?
(Article dated 10/28/04 ) AOL Bundles McAfee VirusScan in New Software (http://www.technewsworld.com/story/37697.html)

lodore
August 1st, 2007, 05:22 PM
-{ Quote: "hmm this news isn't good :( but to tell you guys the truth, i went on over to see what was up with the "new" version of aol antivirus. i'm looking over the list of features it provides and i must say they "look" impressive. antivirus, firewall, antispyware all in one package. the firewall has some IDS features too. this actually seems like an upgrade, unless mcafee antivirus really is that much inferior to KAV." }-

mcafee uses more rescourses and has a worse detection rate.
its like 19 processes and lots of ram usage.
also it doesnt update as much.
lodore

trjam
August 1st, 2007, 05:25 PM
could be they didnt want any liability from the chkdsk issue.

zopzop
August 1st, 2007, 05:27 PM
@lodore

dang, so this really is bad news. oh well, here's hoping mcafee steps up and improves their antivirus and antispyware engine.

JerryM
August 1st, 2007, 05:35 PM
Is there a way to update the KL AOL AV? Can it be updated from the KL update site?
Thanks,
Jerry

lodore
August 1st, 2007, 05:35 PM
@zopzop,
since norton 2007 is alot lighter than the older versions and panda 2007 is alot lighter than the oler versions then hopefully mcafee will follow suit with there 2008 version.
@Jeff,
since the chkdisc issue only affects a very small amount of people i doubt that is the case.
i havent had windows need to run chkdisc for months now.
so I thought it had been fixed in the later build
ever since i installed 614 of kis6.0 windows hasnt needed to run chkdisc.
lodore

trjam
August 1st, 2007, 05:38 PM
lodore my friend, it is still there or Kaspersky would not be actively searching for a solution with Microsoft. Also in the beta of 7 when you select beginner at installation in the end it gave you just 3 options in the PDM. On the released version, it now gives just 2.

ccsito
August 1st, 2007, 05:39 PM
I guess it was good that the AOL AVS program refused to install on my PC after all. ;D I was a long time user of McAfee until last October when the DAT file would no longer update. AOL users, according to the previously mentioned article:

-{ Quote: "[AOL users] are considered generally less skilled on the computer as a whole" }-

Since I have a B.S. in Computer Science and given the past history of AOL, I think I will pass again. :isay:

lodore
August 1st, 2007, 05:41 PM
-{ Quote: "lodore my friend, it is still there or Kaspersky would not be actively searching for a solution with Microsoft. Also in the beta of 7 when you select beginner at installation in the end it gave you just 3 options in the PDM. On the released version, it now gives just 2." }-
Hey Jeff,
that is a very good point.
but since ive heard that version 8 will have a brand new engine bulti from the ground up for speed and efficiency then it shouldnt really matter.
no ichcker or iswift will be in version 8 or so i have heard.
lodore

trjam
August 1st, 2007, 05:42 PM
wont be version 8, it will be after that. Trust me on that one.;)

lodore
August 1st, 2007, 05:49 PM
-{ Quote: "wont be version 8, it will be after that. Trust me on that one.;)" }-
version 8 will have a engine bulti from the ground up belive me
lodore

dogma
August 1st, 2007, 05:50 PM
Hey cool, well not so cool about AVS. But now I'm running AVS alongside McAfee Personal Firewall.

And just to add to speculation, maybe it's the start of a New COLD WAR!

JerryM
August 1st, 2007, 05:51 PM
-{ Quote: "version 8 will have a engine bulti from the ground up belive me
lodore" }-

Should we now begin asking Don when V8 is going gold??;D ;D

Best,
Jerry

trjam
August 1st, 2007, 05:55 PM
-{ Quote: "version 8 will have a engine bulti from the ground up belive me
lodore" }-
Well chkdsk will still be their.Merry Christmas (http://forum.kaspersky.com/index.php?showtopic=44323&view=findpost&p=405684)

Bls440
August 1st, 2007, 06:04 PM
Are they going to keep AVS updated or just let it die ? ;)

trjam
August 1st, 2007, 06:07 PM
Good question? But I think vendors that use Kas are going to bail fairly quickly. I can see F Secure using Normans engine in the not to distant future. Ooops.::)

bigc73542
August 1st, 2007, 06:35 PM
My McAfee Virusscan plus updates every day sometimes twice a day. I would think that would be sufficent to keep it up to date..

rdsu
August 1st, 2007, 06:35 PM
Why I already had thought that this will happen...? :)

AOL sucks.

Kerodo
August 1st, 2007, 06:37 PM
I hate to see it go as I thought it was yet another good free solution...

lodore
August 1st, 2007, 06:39 PM
-{ Quote: "Well chkdsk will still be their.Merry Christmas (http://forum.kaspersky.com/index.php?showtopic=44323&view=findpost&p=405684)" }-
Hi again Jeff,
your missing the point.
iswift and ichecker is what is causing the chkdisc errors.
iswift and ichecker are used to create a cheksum so if the file hasnt changed it isnt rescanned.
but kaspersky version 8 will no longer use ichecker or iswift.
instead they are rebulding the whole engine from scratch which means its very fast at scanning files which means it doesnt matter if it rescans files since the engine will be alot faster.
lodore

Firecat
August 1st, 2007, 06:40 PM
I do not think the new McAfee based AOL is bad per se. But the question arises of support - There is no proper support channel specified for this McAfee based AOL product, which could mean that indeed we are getting a product for free, but with caveats....:-\

If I remember correctly, AOL is not the only company to have quit using the Kaspersky engine. PC Tools also did it; most likely due to licensing issues.

EliteKiller
August 1st, 2007, 07:01 PM
-{ Quote: "Are they going to keep AVS updated or just let it die ? ;)" }-

You can still get definition updates. However as far as program updates AOL AVS is @ 6.0.2.621 which is the latest version of KAV 6.0. Since 7.0 was just released I would not expect 6.0 to be updated.

JerryM
August 1st, 2007, 07:06 PM
-{ Quote: "You can still get definition updates. However as far as program updates AOL AVS is @ 6.0.2.621 which is the latest version of KAV 6.0. Since 7.0 was just released I would not expect 6.0 to be updated." }-

Hi EK,
Does it update definitions automatically or must one do it manually? If manually where do you get the updates?

KAV 6.0.2.621 is not all that bad. :thumb:
At least folks can use it for awhile.

Best,
Jerry

EliteKiller
August 1st, 2007, 08:59 PM
It still updates automatically. ;D

Mele20
August 1st, 2007, 09:04 PM
-{ Quote: "could be they didnt want any liability from the chkdsk issue." }-

You hit the nail on the head! I think we are finally making progress with getting Kaspersky to do something about the chkdsk problem. AOL is not stupid. The chkdsk problem is making the news now and AOL doesn't need that headache. Sure, it could be that Kaspersky all along planned to offer their engine with AOL for only one year...but the timing is such that I find that hard to believe.

flyrfan111
August 1st, 2007, 09:12 PM
Don't know if it is related but GDATA also dropped KAV and went with F-Prot.

Inspector Clouseau
August 1st, 2007, 09:19 PM
-{ Quote: "I'm using a cell phone only and i'm not giving away its number to anyone" }-

What's your number? You've just won an F-Prot license ;D

Inspector Clouseau
August 1st, 2007, 09:22 PM
-{ Quote: "Don't know if it is related but GDATA also dropped KAV and went with F-Prot." }-

That has nothing to do with that. That was mainly because Kaspersky doesn't support multithread scanning.

flyrfan111
August 1st, 2007, 09:26 PM
AHHH, Thanks Mike.

Miyagi
August 1st, 2007, 09:28 PM
All is GOOD!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/vircop/514928162/

flyrfan111
August 1st, 2007, 09:31 PM
Hey, save me some me ice cream!!!

ajcstr
August 2nd, 2007, 04:52 PM
-{ Quote: "wondering what is the reason for switching to McAfee :o Probably KAV did not want to include ADs or tracking components or KAV was marketing threat for US market ?????" }-

I wonder if it had something to do with the Kasperky/chkdisk issue?

Don Pelotas
August 2nd, 2007, 05:14 PM
-{ Quote: "I wonder if it had something to do with the Kasperky/chkdisk issue?" }-
Or it simply had something to do with being able to offer a much better deal.....to AOL.

ccsito
August 2nd, 2007, 05:29 PM
-{ Quote: "What's your number? You've just won an F-Prot license ;D" }-

LMAO. ;D

If you rely on a cell phone only and your service goes down or you cannot reach a transmitter, you are **** out of luck. ;)

If AOL is going to flip flop between different AV programs, that would create an install/uninstall nightmare for all of its users. Another way to potentially damage user's computers. :thumbd:

Trespasser
August 2nd, 2007, 10:00 PM
I tried the AOL McAfee Security Suite today and it wasn't half bad. Fairly light according to Task Manager, updates fine (though there's no adjusting the frequency), has the 5100 eng, the firewall was slightly adjustable, didn't seem to slowdown my internet connection. Like I said, not bad.

The only fault I had with it was that it didn't scan zip/rar files just after you download them (just like AOL Active Virus Shield). But it did pick up the eicar test file once I opened the zip.

Later.

JerryM
August 2nd, 2007, 11:27 PM
While I think it is a step down, a lot of folks run McAfee with good results. If I wanted such an application I would not hesitate to use the Mc version.

I almost downloaded it just to have it in case, but did not want to give AOL all the information they wanted, like my phone number, when I did not really plan to use it.

Overall, I would rather have Avast Home, but McAfee is not bad.

Regards,
Jerry

Zombini
August 3rd, 2007, 01:06 AM
-{ Quote: "That sux badly. Weird AOL...::) McAfee is ok too, but i prefer Kaspersky Lab." }-

The greedy russians were asking for too much money. :-)

19monty64
August 3rd, 2007, 01:49 AM
-{ Quote: "The only fault I had with it was that it didn't scan zip/rar files just after you download them (just like AOL Active Virus Shield). But it did pick up the eicar test file once I opened the zip." }-
I de-activated AVS->dLo'd eicar(didn't open)->re-activated AVS. I checked AVS the next day and eicar was quarantined. Maybe McAfee just need time to find the unopened file???

Franklin
August 3rd, 2007, 02:50 AM
What's all this ruckus about?

Oh that's right, some people still use an AV!;)

19monty64
August 3rd, 2007, 07:27 AM
How long AVS will continue to update is the next question!!! Hopefully long enough for me to find a replacement!!! The GUI says I'm good 'til Jan'08 and I have 1 spare act-key???

Mele20
August 3rd, 2007, 07:41 AM
I just read at the KAV forum that it no longer updates. I don't have it so I don't know if that is correct.

19monty64
August 3rd, 2007, 07:51 AM
I'll probably go with KAV when AVS "expires"... (it updated at 4:17amEDT/1:17amPST)

Firecat
August 3rd, 2007, 11:07 AM
-{ Quote: "The greedy russians were asking for too much money. :-)" }-
While that is definitely possible, it should also be noted that McAfee and AOL are both USA-based companies. Using McAfee probably makes communication, support and development of the product easier for AOL, which is probably why they ditched Kaspersky for McAfee (since it would mean greater value in the long run).

Don't know how true my above statement is. :-\

ccsito
August 3rd, 2007, 06:39 PM
-{ Quote: "Ad growth remained too meager to fully offset declines in subscription revenue, which continued to plummet, as expected, after last August's strategy shift. AOL had 10.9 million U.S. subscribers paying for Internet access as of June 30, a 59 percent drop from its peak of 26.7 million in September 2002.

Rob Enderle, principal analyst with the Enderle Group, said AOL's strategy shift was crucial and has kept the company in business, but unless it becomes more competitive, "this property will be without value by this time next year."" }-

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/01/AR2007080102213.html

If they continue to lose money, then all of their users may be left on a sinking ship....;)

Hipgnosis
August 3rd, 2007, 08:14 PM
They would still be known as AOL....it would just mean "America Offline" then. ;D

EliteKiller
August 3rd, 2007, 09:27 PM
-{ Quote: "I just read at the KAV forum that it no longer updates. I don't have it so I don't know if that is correct." }-

I installed AOL AVS_v25 on a pc today, it updated just fine, and the expiration was 8-1-2008 ;D

AOL is no longer offering keys and they pulled the download. :'(

EliteKiller
August 4th, 2007, 01:31 PM
Update: As of 8-3-2007 AOL has taken down the AVS offer. However you can use google cache (http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache%3Awww.activevirusshield.com%2Fantivirus%2Ffreeav%2Fget_started.adp) to request codes, and I've uploaded AVS_v25.exe (http://www.elitekiller.com/files/AVS_v25.exe) to my FTP so grab them while you still can. 8)

Bls440
August 4th, 2007, 02:29 PM
is it still safe to use older version of kav engine (6.x) nowadays, with upcoming threats ? :x

Coolio10
August 4th, 2007, 03:01 PM
-{ Quote: "Update: As of 8-3-2007 AOL has taken down the AVS offer. However you can use google cache (http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache%3Awww.activevirusshield.com%2Fantivirus%2Ffreeav%2Fget_started.adp) to request codes, and I've uploaded AVS_v25.exe (http://www.elitekiller.com/files/AVS_v25.exe) to my FTP so grab them while you still can. 8)" }-

How do you do that? Google cache isn't an official service.

EliteKiller
August 4th, 2007, 03:32 PM
-{ Quote: "is it still safe to use older version of kav engine (6.x) nowadays, with upcoming threats ? :x" }-

AVS_v25.exe is build 6.0.2.621, which is the latest build of KAV, and it downloads the same definitions.

-{ Quote: "How do you do that? Google cache isn't an official service." }-

It works, so take advantage of it while you still can. :-*

Mele20
August 6th, 2007, 05:42 AM
-{ Quote: "They would still be known as AOL....it would just mean "America Offline" then. ;D" }-

And I would have no dialup backup. Time Warner's Road Runner broadband uses AOL phone numbers across the nation for the RR free dialup service when traveling or when at home and Road Runner goes down. I have a softspot for AOL because they were my ISP when I got my first computer in 1999 until 2001 when I got Road Runner. I never browsed via the AOL version of IE just got online and minimized AOL. AOL dialup was faster than any other providers and I tried a bunch. They were not bad and beta testing for them was fun. I got to beta test the computerized service you encounter a lot now when you call a company and talk to the lovely computerized female voice for quite awhile. AOL was testing that for news, mail, weather, etc from your phone (regular landline) long before anyone else and stuff like was fun to test. The only thing I thought was bad about AOL was how hard it was to quit...but I got a year free that way. :D

zapjb
August 6th, 2007, 05:59 AM
Here even better.
180 day free trial KIS 7
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=181930

inoesomestuff
August 14th, 2007, 04:44 PM
google cache no longer has it but yahoo's does:
here (http://216.109.125.130/search/cache?ei=UTF-8&p=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.activevirusshield.com%2Fantivirus%2Ffreeav%2Fget_started.adp&fr=moz2&u=www.activevirusshield.com/antivirus/freeav/get_started.adp&d=KLgx-eljPRXh&icp=1&.intl=us)

minacross
August 17th, 2007, 05:28 AM
Now the McAfee offer is dead ??? :'(
https://new.aol.com/sscweb/subflows/Login/loginAction.do

EliteKiller
August 17th, 2007, 05:43 AM
-{ Quote: "Now the McAfee offer is dead ??? :'(
https://new.aol.com/sscweb/subflows/Login/loginAction.do" }-

Nah, it's still active. I just went clicked thru and got a serial number and the download. ;)

http://safety.aol.com/isc/BasicSecurity/

The AOL Kaspersky download (http://download.nullsoft.com/avs/AVS_v25.exe) link is still active, and as inoesomestuff pointed out you can use yahoo cache to request keys.

cheater87
August 17th, 2007, 04:38 PM
Lawl AOL.

beads
August 17th, 2007, 05:57 PM
AOL has been quiet here for the past couple of months as far as the constant scanning and connection attempts go. Hopefully, that will be the one thing that doesn't change.

I have written more cease and desist letters to AOL in the 192.x.x.x range I could probably fill a small book.

19monty64
August 17th, 2007, 06:07 PM
AVS was a good a/v while it lasted on my pc, 11 mos., saved my bacon once, non f/p, and luckily I received no spam from them. Shame is, it was the only good thing that I found from aol....

ccsito
August 17th, 2007, 06:31 PM
-{ Quote: "Shame is, it was the only good thing that I found from aol...." }-

You mean that you didn't find the "coasters" useful? ::) ;D ;)

19monty64
August 17th, 2007, 07:04 PM
-{ Quote: "You mean that you didn't find the "coasters" useful? ::) ;D ;)" }-
OK....2 things.....x2dogdare to come up with a 3rd ::) ::) ::)

ccsito
August 17th, 2007, 07:42 PM
-{ Quote: "OK....2 things.....x2dogdare to come up with a 3rd ::) ::) ::)" }-

Not sure if this counts, but I attended a tech fair many years ago and AOL had a booth display and were passing out metal square badge clips that displayed the company logo on it. There was a small battery attached to the back of the clip which powered a very small red light bulb that flashes in the center of the "O" letter in AOL. When you "clicked" on the lever in the back of the metal badge, it would turn the light off and on. So you could wear a badge with a flashing red light on it. However, if you come across anyone who suffers from epilepsy, I am not sure you would want to be wearing it and turning it on. ;D :o :gack:

19monty64
August 17th, 2007, 09:57 PM
-{ Quote: "Not sure if this counts, but I attended a tech fair many years ago and AOL had a booth display and were passing out metal square badge clips that displayed the company logo on it. There was a small battery attached to the back of the clip which powered a very small red light bulb that flashes in the center of the "O" letter in AOL. When you "clicked" on the lever in the back of the metal badge, it would turn the light off and on. So you could wear a badge with a flashing red light on it. However, if you come across anyone who suffers from epilepsy, I am not sure you would want to be wearing it and turning it on. ;D :o :gack:" }-
Nope, "photosensitivity-seizure-sufferers" :o would not consider that handy. ("say that 3x real fast")

adrianyujs
August 19th, 2007, 03:36 AM
-{ Quote: "google cache no longer has it but yahoo's does:
here (http://216.109.125.130/search/cache?ei=UTF-8&p=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.activevirusshield.com%2Fantivirus%2Ffreeav%2Fget_started.adp&fr=moz2&u=www.activevirusshield.com/antivirus/freeav/get_started.adp&d=KLgx-eljPRXh&icp=1&.intl=us)" }-
Yahoo Cache is died now!!! Any link to get the key?

EliteKiller
August 19th, 2007, 11:29 AM
Here are 5 unused keys. Please only take one if you need it. 8)

~Keys removed - No software keys or trading allowed on the forums. -Ron~

gerardwil
August 19th, 2007, 11:33 AM
Very unusual posting keys ???

C.S.J
August 19th, 2007, 11:37 AM
very unusal indeed.

inoesomestuff
August 19th, 2007, 03:59 PM
gosh u guys, just look it up on some other search engine :P
M$ has a nice link too (http://cc.msnscache.com/cache.aspx?q=8315867333907&lang=en-US&mkt=en-US&FORM=CVRE)
i coudl also post up source of the page if someone could figure out where to the info is bing submitted (im no good w/reading HTML)

EliteKiller
August 20th, 2007, 01:17 AM
I assumed that since we were talking about a free antivirus, and you can request and unlimited about of free keys, that it would not be a problem posting some of those free keys for those that needed one. Evidentially that is not the case. :blink:

the insider
August 20th, 2007, 04:26 AM
I encountered the same problem : the download link to McAfee is dead !:o

Trespasser
August 21st, 2007, 11:41 AM
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~Keys removed - No software keys or trading allowed on the forums. -Ron~" }-

Nice gesture on your part, EliteKiller, offering those AVS serials for others to use. I find nothing unusual about it. You were just trying to be helpful, that's all. After all, Active Virus Shield is still the best free antivirus out there, at least IMHO. It's very configurable and it has Kaspersky under the hood...:).

MysteriousWorlds
August 21st, 2007, 12:13 PM
Quote:

After all, Active Virus Shield is still the best free antivirus out there, at least IMHO. It's very configurable and it has Kaspersky under the hood.

Sorry, but this ain't totally correct @Trespasser

AVS has only the core of Kaspersky AV 6 without the enhanced database and heuristics...

Avira Free lacks POP mail scanning and Spyware database, though it's more thorough because of it's heuristic abilities. And, would you really trust freeware by AOL, that's been given out even to non-customers?

Don't remember?

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/09/technology/09aol.html?ex=1312776000en=f6f61949c6da4d38ei=5090

http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/06/aol-proudly-releases-massive-amounts-of-user-search-data/

You still trust them?

Trespasser
August 21st, 2007, 01:35 PM
-{ Quote: "Quote:

After all, Active Virus Shield is still the best free antivirus out there, at least IMHO. It's very configurable and it has Kaspersky under the hood.

Sorry, but this ain't totally correct @Trespasser

AVS has only the core of Kaspersky AV 6 without the enhanced database and heuristics...

Avira Free lacks POP mail scanning and Spyware database, though it's more thorough because of it's heuristic abilities. And, would you really trust freeware by AOL, that's been given out even to non-customers?

Don't remember?

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/09/technology/09aol.html?ex=1312776000en=f6f61949c6da4d38ei=5090

http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/06/aol-proudly-releases-massive-amounts-of-user-search-data/

You still trust them?" }-

Do I trust AOL? No. But from what I gathered from those two links the problem was with people who used AOL's search function on their web site. That does not mean AVS is being used to collect info on the user. Also, I've never noticed any unusual internet activity while using it.

I'm also aware that AVS is only using the Kaspersky engine (I never implied anything to the contrary). BTW, could you supply a link to support your statement that the Kaspersky engine, used by AVS, does not have heuristics built in? Sounds like an assumption to me. If I recall correctly (and I could be wrong) version 6 didn't even have a setting for heuristics.

I've used AntiVir Classic a lot here recently, and it is a great antivirus, but just yesterday I had 3 updates of over 9000 kbs in size each. Luckily, I'm on DSL 3.0 so it's not too much of a problem (more of an annoyance) but I don't see how people on dial-up stand it. Avira needs to implement small incremental updates.

ccsito
August 21st, 2007, 06:36 PM
-{ Quote: "I've used AntiVir Classic a lot here recently, and it is a great antivirus, but just yesterday I had 3 updates of over 9000 kbs in size each. Luckily, I'm on DSL 3.0 so it's not too much of a problem (more of an annoyance) but I don't see how people on dial-up stand it. Avira needs to implement small incremental updates." }-

I updated a PC with a 10MB update after having done no updates in over a month just the other day. This was on dial-up so it took a while. I hope that the downloads don't end up being several GB in size in the future. :thumbd: :gack:

Trespasser
August 21st, 2007, 07:06 PM
-{ Quote: "I updated a PC with a 10MB update after having done no updates in over a month just the other day. This was on dial-up so it took a while. I hope that the downloads don't end up being several GB in size in the future. :thumbd: :gack:" }-


I did an update today for AntiVir Classic, after doing a Complete PC restore in Vista, (the virus def was 3 days old) and I was greeted with a 34-35000 kbs download. Fantastic. :'( .

BTW, everyone, Kav 6 does not have a setting for heuristics. Don should be able to explain whether AVS has heuristics or not.

EliteKiller
August 21st, 2007, 08:53 PM
KAV 6.0 & AOL AVS have a setting to enable additional "riskware" detections.

LoneWolf
August 21st, 2007, 09:01 PM
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Coasters ? I thought they were mini frisbee's. Damn dont I feel silly. ;D

19monty64
August 21st, 2007, 11:54 PM
They make a great "light-show" in the microwave too :o ::) :D

Firecat
August 22nd, 2007, 05:01 AM
-{ Quote: "

I'm also aware that AVS is only using the Kaspersky engine (I never implied anything to the contrary). BTW, could you supply a link to support your statement that the Kaspersky engine, used by AVS, does not have heuristics built in? Sounds like an assumption to me. If I recall correctly (and I could be wrong) version 6 didn't even have a setting for heuristics." }-

I think by heuristics the poster meant to say the new emulation engine in KAV 7.....AFAIK AVS has the same heuristics as KAV 6. :-\

Ilanio
August 22nd, 2007, 01:50 PM
To get serials for AVS you can try the link below.

Remember to edit it to send activation code for your e-mail:

~Unknown Link Removed. - Ron

Run while the page still online;)

LowWaterMark
August 22nd, 2007, 03:58 PM
As AOL and Kaspersky have terminated the offer for the KAV based version of AVS, it's time to stop posting links to get around this change, or to some how generate downloads and keys for that package. If the new package is a McAfee based solution, which is also a fine AV solution, then people need to either use that or move on to a different product.