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lucas1985
June 29th, 2007, 02:52 PM
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Various developers are busy implimenting workarounds for serious bugs in Intel's Core 2 cpu.

These processors are buggy as hell, and some of these bugs don't just cause development/debugging problems, but will *ASSUREDLY* be exploitable from userland code.

As is typical, BIOS vendors will be very late providing workarounds / fixes for these processors bugs. Some bugs are unfixable and cannot be worked around. Intel only provides detailed fixes to BIOS vendors and large operating system groups. Open Source operating systems are largely left in the cold.
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At this time, I cannot recommend purchase of any machines based on the Intel Core 2 until these issues are dealt with (which I suspect will take more than a year). Intel must be come more transparent.

(While here, I would like to say that AMD is becoming less helpful day by day towards open source operating systems too, perhaps because their serious errata lists are growing rapidly too).
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Theo de Raadt (http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=118296441702631)
Way too scary :o
If this issue gets enough media coverage, I smell a recall.

walking paradox
June 29th, 2007, 03:14 PM
-{ Quote: "Theo de Raadt (http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=118296441702631)
Way too scary :o
If this issue gets enough media coverage, I smell a recall." }-
Interesting...but I seriously doubt they would implement a recall. Has there ever even been a recall on computer processors for security reasons? I think the potential security risks involved with this are way beyond the understanding of most people and would likely be dismissed by many as inapplicable to most people.

coolbluewater
June 29th, 2007, 03:26 PM
He's right about AMD, and AMD's buyout of ATI was a match made in hell as far as providing drivers for OSS is concerned. Both have been on the hot seat for years because of this. Isn't the far-ranging power of the M$ wallet wonderful.:thumbd: