AVGAS 7.5.1.36 does not start if guard.exe disabled or stopped

[gorgelink]

Hi,

I have a free AVGAS 7.5.1.36. I changed guard.exe to Manual using start-->run-->services.msc and then I stopped the process becuase I don't want it to run in the background and create conflicts.

After I stopped guard.exe - AVGAS refuses to start!

When I click on AVGAS (having stopped guard.exe), I keep getting:

"Connection to serrvice failed. Please reinstall AVG Antispyware 7.5"

To open AVGAS, I have to re-start guard.exe.

Anyone came across a similar problem? Anyone knows a solution?

Thank you for a great product and a wonderful, supportive community of users.

G.

[peter.ewido]

guard.exe absolutely needs to be running in the new version. Some of the main functionality like cleaning, analysis tools etc. had to be outsourced from avgas.exe to guard.exe. If you stop guard.exe after avgas.exe has been started, the analysis tools will stop working, you will not be able to clean/delete files etc.

[Firebytes]

peter.ewido,

I do not allow AVGAS to start with Windows and I do not run it for real-time protection. I only use it for an on-demand scanner. I see no reason why guard.exe needs to be running constantly in the background.

Why can't the guard.exe service be set to "manual" startup and have AVGAS fire it up whenever AVGAS is launched.

I hope this can be changed in a future update. I am new to AVGAS but am already thinking of abandoning it due to this, as I know others are also.

[peter.ewido]

No, sorry, this cannot be changed... :( Core functionality has been outsourced to guard.exe, that means even things like update and cleaning are now being performed by the "guard". The application itself simply does not have enough access rights. This practice is btw. not uncommon nowadays.

[Firebytes]

Will updates or cleaning be done anyway if AVGAS itself is not running and only guard.exe is running. I would assume ??? that AVGAS itself would have to be running as well as guard.exe. Am I wrong? If not then why can't AVGAS fire up guard.exe when it is started and then guard.exe could perform the cleaning or updates.

I understand that guard.exe needs to be running anytime AVGAS is running but why when it isn't?

[tetonbob]

This means the tool can no longer be run in safe mode, where malware removal is frequently best done.

[Bugbatter]

-{ Quote: "This means the tool can no longer be run in safe mode, where malware removal is frequently best done." }- Yes. :(

[Atomas31]

-{ Quote: "peter.ewido,

I do not allow AVGAS to start with Windows and I do not run it for real-time protection. I only use it for an on-demand scanner. I see no reason why guard.exe needs to be running constantly in the background.

Why can't the guard.exe service be set to "manual" startup and have AVGAS fire it up whenever AVGAS is launched.

I hope this can be changed in a future update. I am new to AVGAS but am already thinking of abandoning it due to this, as I know others are also." }-

Hi Peter.ewido,

I totally agree with Firebytes and for me too, I only use AVGAS ondemand and I certainly don't want guard.exe to start with windows but only when I open AVGAS and stop when I close AVGAS...

If you don't change that situation, I am also thinking of abandoning AVGAS if you persist to go this way... >:(

Atomas31

[coolbluewater]

Alternatively, you can just use the previous version of AVG AS for an on-demand scanner and go back to playing Russian Roulette with the updates.
SpySweeper (current version) also must have it's service set to Automatic to run a scan; you can then set it back to Manual, but requires a reboot to stop running. On the other hand, the current SpywareDoctor (5.0.0.186) can be run on-demand; it starts its own service and drivers, and when you close it, it shuts them down. A-Squared Free v3.0 also runs on-demand and shuts down afterward with no issues; ditto for SAS and even SpyBot S&D.
Having to reboot just to clear an on-demand scan service is a hassle IMO. YMMV.

[robinb9]

the biggest problem I see is why it will not run in safe mode. Many trojans cannot come out unless you run the program in safe mode to get rid of them. By disallowing AVGAS not to run doesn't this defeat the purpose?

Can AVAGS explain why they took this function out in this version?

Also when will it be sent via the update in the Pro version because I have not seen this happen yet.

Robin

[vinzenz.ewido]

-{ Quote: "the biggest problem I see is why it will not run in safe mode. Many trojans cannot come out unless you run the program in safe mode to get rid of them. By disallowing AVGAS not to run doesn't this defeat the purpose?

Can AVAGS explain why they took this function out in this version?

Also when will it be sent via the update in the Pro version because I have not seen this happen yet.

Robin" }-

Please read this regarding save mode. http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=1020041&postcount=43

Regards,
Vinzenz

[Firebytes]

I went ahead and ditched AVGAS for now at least. Maybe I will try it again in the future if they change the guard.exe issue. Also, right before I uninstalled I tried a manual update just to see what would happen and it gave me an error.

I will stick with SAS (free) for now and possibly try A-Squared Free 3.0 as a second on-demand scanner, if as coolbluewater says it can run on-demand without a persistent background service running.

[robinb]

-{ Quote: "Please read this regarding save mode. http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=1020041&postcount=43

Regards,
Vinzenz" }-

Vinzenz
when will it be coming via the updates? I have the pro version and nothing has come in except updated definitions. The new version still has not come via my updates.

thanks
robin

[OldRebel]

-{ Quote: "I went ahead and ditched AVGAS for now at least. Maybe I will try it again in the future if they change the guard.exe issue. Also, right before I uninstalled I tried a manual update just to see what would happen and it gave me an error.

I will stick with SAS (free) for now and possibly try A-Squared Free 3.0 as a second on-demand scanner, if as coolbluewater says it can run on-demand without a persistent background service running." }-

It seems that system services even for free scanners has become the usual thing. A2 Free has one now, a2service.exe, which is necessary for scanning, updating, handling multiple XP user accounts and Vista use. A friend tells me that the new Ad Aware 2007 free version also has a system service.

From what I'm seeing on my PC, the AVG AS guard is using less resources than any of my other tools when they are idle. I have it set on demand only with autoupdates and Shield turned off.

[Firebytes]

Unless I am just missing something (entirely possible) SuperAntispyware (free) does not run a persistent service in the background so I will stick with it. Even if the services for A-Squared or AVGAS use little resources they are still using some constantly and for no good reason if I am using it only as an on-demand scanner periodically.

[jedi]

It's been posted at SpywareInfo that:
-{ Quote: "Since guard.exe will expire at the end of the trial period, this version of AVG-AS becomes useless as it cannot update, cannot scan, and cannot clean." }-
Is this the case, or will it still function as an on-demand tool?

[peter.ewido]

No, that's not true! Although guard.exe will stop protecting the system, it will still be running and provide the necessary functionality for avgas.exe to scan, update etc.

[OldRebel]

-{ Quote: "No, that's not true! Although guard.exe will stop protecting the system, it will still be running and provide the necessary functionality for avgas.exe to scan, update etc." }-

That's a relief to hear! I thought the guard would continue, but without the Shield, as you just stated. My friends have become anxious about that issue.
I really like that AVG AS works without problems on all user accounts and that it has some self-protection for its registry entries. That's worth having the guard running all the time. I used another software (which I will not name) that I accidentally rendered unable to update just by deleting my user temp files. Furthermore, just to add my 2 cents on the subject of HIPS, I'm glad that AVG AS does not have IDS or HIPS features. As it is now, it is compatible with my several security suites, which ALL have some kind of HIPS or system guard. Too many added features will produce too many potential conflicts, IMO.

[lucas1985]

Is there a way to start guard.exe to scan/update, then stop/unload it without a reboot?
Can this be done via a batch file?
Otherwise, I won't use AVG AS :'(

[raymond119053]

I have it set to manual and use services.msc to start and stop, works fine.

[Firebytes]

Raymond that will definitely work and you can make it even easier to do it that way by creating a shortcut to services.msc on your desktop or in your quicklaunch area. I just didn't feel like manually starting and stopping the AVG guard service everytime I wanted to run AVGAS, but hey, I'm lazy.

[lucas1985]

-{ Quote: "I have it set to manual and use services.msc to start and stop, works fine." }-
Great. Now, I'll write that batch file.

[tetonbob]

-{ Quote: "No, that's not true! Although guard.exe will stop protecting the system, it will still be running and provide the necessary functionality for avgas.exe to scan, update etc." }-

...and clean, Peter? Just real time protection and auto updates time out as before?

[peter.ewido]

Exactly. :)

[peter.ewido]

-{ Quote: "Great. Now, I'll write that batch file." }-

You could use


net start "AVG Anti-Spyware guard"
start /wait avgas.exe
net stop "AVG Anti-Spyware guard"

This way, the service will be running until you close avgas.exe (it definitely has to be running while you are using avgas.exe :))

[Atomas31]

-{ Quote: "

This way, the service will be running until you close avgas.exe (it definitely has to be running while you are using avgas.exe :))" }-

Hi Peter.ewido,

I have no problem that avgas.exe run when using AVGAS, the problem is that I use AVGAS only on-demand and for that reason I will appreciate to have avgas.exe services on "manual" so it will start ONLY when AVGAS is start and stop when AVGAS is close, nothing else and with no trick or batch file to use to do that (too complicated!)...

Do you think that this is a change that could be made in the next version of AVGAS without us doing anything special (batch files or I don't know what)?

Thanks,
Atomas31

[tetonbob]

-{ Quote: "...and clean, Peter? Just real time protection and auto updates time out as before?" }-

-{ Quote: "Exactly. :)" }-

Thanks for the clarification. :thumb:

[dadkins]

Has to run 24/7?
Does nothing in the way of security for us free users?

Who's idea was this?

When will it be fixed? :-\

[LaFemmeMichele]

Ewido,

Could you please tell me if using the previous version for on demand scanning is a viable option? Would one be able to get up-to-date anti malware updates?

I'm unhappy with Vista's impact on my (XP) solutions.

Thanks,

Michele

[lucas1985]

-{ Quote: "You could use


net start "AVG Anti-Spyware guard"
start /wait avgas.exe
net stop "AVG Anti-Spyware guard"

This way, the service will be running until you close avgas.exe (it definitely has to be running while you are using avgas.exe :))" }-
Thanks Peter :thumb:
I thought the same.

[lucas1985]

-{ Quote: "I have no problem that avgas.exe run when using AVGAS, the problem is that I use AVGAS only on-demand and for that reason I will appreciate to have avgas.exe services on "manual" so it will start ONLY when AVGAS is start and stop when AVGAS is close, nothing else and with no trick or batch file to use to do that (too complicated!)" }-
Hi Atomas31,
It's not hard to learn batch files (http://www.google.com.ar/search?hl=es&q=learn+batch+files&meta=) :)

[Atomas31]

-{ Quote: "Hi Atomas31,
It's not hard to learn batch files (http://www.google.com.ar/search?hl=es&q=learn+batch+files&meta=) :)" }-

Hi Lucas1985,

Thank's for the links but I don't intend to learn how to do batch file.
For me the actual situation with avgas.exe is a bug that need to be resolved by AVG... Customer shouldn't have to learn how to do batch file to make avgas.exe act like it should:blink:

[lucas1985]

It seems a Vista side effect. I think that if a running service isn't present when you execute AVG AS, Vista will throw UAC prompts. That's the reason why the "core" functionality of AVG AS is delegated to guard.exe, a always running service with full rights.
Maybe Peter can explain this in better terms.

[Atomas31]

I don't have Vista, I still have Windows XP with SP2...

[lucas1985]

I think that you misunderstood me.
The changes made to AVG AS have been done to reach Vista compatibility. Since there's only one build, Vista-related changes affect non-Vista users.
Hope it's more clear now :)

[Lucy85]

It asks me to reinstall AVGAS when i run the batch file, is something wrong?

[Atomas31]

-{ Quote: "I think that you misunderstood me.
The changes made to AVG AS have been done to reach Vista compatibility. Since there's only one build, Vista-related changes affect non-Vista users.
Hope it's more clear now :)" }-

Well, I did misunderstood you::) sorry...

In anycase, in that situation they should have two build (one for XP and one for Vista) and rectifie the situation in regard of the service avgas.exe. Right now, it seems that those that have vista have problem with it so as those with XP :wacko:

[dadkins]

-{ Quote: "It asks me to reinstall AVGAS when i run the batch file, is something wrong?" }-

I disabled/killed guard.exe.
I restarted guard.exe and tried to start AVG AS... I got the same "Reinstall" dialog.
Restarted the computer and guard.exe started by itself, AVG AS started normally.

If this is how it is going to stay... then AVG AS(ewido) will no longer be a part of my machines.

It's not like I can't use a replacement, but it is a bad move to have yet another process that is useless for us free version users.
Guard.exe is not doing anything here when AVG AS is not running so WTF?

XP machines here - we no need no stinking Vista.
Well, it's been fun while it lasted!

CYA!

[Lucy85]

Ok, i found out you just need to set the guard service to manual, and you'll be able to run the batch file. It won't load itself on the next boot if you set it to manual.

Annoying but oh well... I would probably dump AVG A-S and use SUPERAntispyware for demand scanning instead.

[argus tuft]

-{ Quote: "...I don't intend to learn how to do batch file.
For me the actual situation with avgas.exe is a bug that need to be resolved by AVG... Customer shouldn't have to learn how to do batch file to make avgas.exe act like it should:blink:" }-
/\ /\This /\ /\

I guess I'll keep 7.5.0.50 for as long as is practical, and then ditch it. >:(

2 questions;
1) will 7.5.0.50 be able to "use" updates written for the newer version?
2) is there any way to stop 7.5.0.50 from updating to 7.5.1.36? As in, does it ask, or just update the main app along with the databse?

[Longboard]

hello

Just perusing this forum while thinking about updating ( heh from Ewido 4) on seldom used snapshot; also use this as on demand and appreciative of free option

@ dadkins:
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=1021575&postcount=38
@lucy
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=1021645&postcount=39

You got it.

No doubt this is a vista issue but still BS:
writing code to fulfil the intent of the app is a poor solution imo...and ...if the batch file can be written and actually works then surely it can be set-up within the app.

Think I'll be getting this off too. Too fiddly
Shame really because I've only ever heard good reports about the memory scanner never sure whether the ewido app had to be running in real time to have full access to this.?

Edit: ?? similar issues with A2
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=1022299&postcount=52

[dadkins]

Yeah, getting pretty sad when software is being trashed just so it can run in Vista.

...and people wonder why some of us don't like Vista... DUH!

*On Demand* means it runs when I decide to click it.
When I close it, it should... close.

Having some service still running that does nothing productive is a waste.
a2 is history too!


Anyone else want a free ride to the Recycle Bin?

[Atomas31]

-{ Quote: "

Anyone else want a free ride to the Recycle Bin?" }-

Don't forget SpySweeper, who has the same problem and I think, from what I have read that the new Ad-Aware 2007 also have the same problem ::)

I believe that your Recycle Bin is gonna be full before long ;D

[Longboard]

-{ Quote: "Don't forget SpySweeper" }-LOL: long gone from here. :thumbd:

Unfortunately, with the Vista "security" changes (UAC) usability may be a casualty.
-{ Quote: "*On Demand* means it runs when I decide to click it.
When I close it, it should... close.
" }-YES.

Heh: Dadkins you'll be back with BOClean before you know it. ;D


-{ Quote: "...and people wonder why some of us don't like Vista... DUH!" }-
Get a couple of copies of XPPro asap ??
Y'all notice how hard it is getting to be getting those copies? >:(

Here in Oz all the "big" retailers have already taken it off the shelf : a few copies left on the web retailers and possibly some smaller specialty shops.

[dadkins]

XP pre-installed on all three laptops, I don't have to worry about it.

Yeah, I have people on other boards trying to explain it away as being alright to have all this happening.
Well, for the Vista users.. I couldn't care less, sorry!

*I* use XP. There is no reason to have 10? 20? 50? different services just sitting in memory so ??? application(s) will start when I click the freakin icon.

The older versions closed when we closed them.
I have enough running processes now, I don't need one for EVERY piece of software I own to be running 24/7!

Someone suggested to set the services to manual... that don't work!
Start the service manually and try to run the program - "Please reinstall the program"... WTF?

Right. :-\

[innerpeace]

I have 5 on demand scanners that I keep around and 3 of them (so far), ad-aware, AVG and a2 just gained new processes in the last week. Processes that just sit there doing nothing >:( . The only good that I can take away with me is knowing that a Vista user doesn't have to answer a prompt. I'm thrilled :dry:

Please find a way for us XP and other users to turn this off, or completely strip it down to a minimal idle. I believe A2 does a nice job of this. I'm still not happy about running an extra process that I'm not using.

For what it's worth, Ad-aware is not longer allowed back on my system until they trim their service down.

[dadkins]

-{ Quote: "I have 5 on demand scanners that I keep around and 3 of them (so far), ad-aware, AVG and a2 just gained new processes in the last week. Processes that just sit there doing nothing >:( . The only good that I can take away with me is knowing that a Vista user doesn't have to answer a prompt. I'm thrilled :dry:

Please find a way for us XP and other users to turn this off, or completely strip it down to a minimal idle. I believe A2 does a nice job of this. I'm still not happy about running an extra process that I'm not using.

For what it's worth, Ad-aware is not longer allowed back on my system until they trim their service down." }-

Yeah. I have people... trying to explain these services away... and not one of them is addressing the fact that *I* no hava da Vista so I no needa da services to run these programs.

Wait for it!
There will be more, and us few that have noticed these few will be able to say "I told ya so" when *THEY* wake up! ;)

[Get]

How many on-demand-only stuff must you have installed to be bothered by the services they have running and how many of those do you have installed/will you ever install....? There seems to be a wide gap between those figures I guess.

[Tarq57]

I, for one, am not about to uninstall it. Though it is irritating being an XP user and having to suffer the inflictions caused by Vista, the actual amount of memory usage by the AVG guard is tiny, indicating 516Kb here. The A2 service shows 1784Kb. The Adaware service a whopping 22940Kb.
But get this: After running a "memory" scan with AVG AS, the figure for A2 drops to (and remains at or below) 140Kb. AVG guard remains at 516. Adaware drops to 400Kb.
Somehow the scanning action causes the memory used by non active services to decrease. Radically in AdAware's case.
Apparently Windows releases memory from stuff not needing it to stuff that does need it, when the chips are down, so I don't know if the AVG scanning action actually is likely to make a noticeable difference to performance in the real world. And since my 1G of RAM is more than adequate right now, it's not really an issue for me.
However, those on slower systems should, I guess, definitely set the service to manual, and turn it on as it's needed.
This issue of services running in the free version of scanners is certainly rapidly becoming more common. 3 in the past week or so.
Anyone know if SAS is likely to have the same sort of thing occurring, in the future?

[EUS]

The silence is deafening.
XP's security should not be comprimised to enable usage for Vista, especially when it comes to SECURITY SOFTWARE. If interoperability problems exist between two seperate OS's, then two releases of security software seems to be the logical choice.

[lordpake]

-{ Quote: "The silence is deafening.
XP's security should not be comprimised to enable usage for Vista, especially when it comes to SECURITY SOFTWARE. If interoperability problems exist between two seperate OS's, then two releases of security software seems to be the logical choice." }-

In what way does guard.exe compromise system security in Windows XP? The only problem with it now seems to be the fact that yet another process is consuming precious RAM in the background :)

Also, I can imagine having sets of installers/applications supporting various Windows versions will only waste resources from developers.

[Firebytes]

I decided to give AVGAS another try for on demand scanning after Peter.Ewido posted a bat file (this thread; post #25) to start the guard.exe service, then start AVGAS, and then close guard.exe after AVGAS is closed. I thought I would let everyone know it works like a champ. No, it isn't quite as good as having it built into the program, but it does what I wanted and I don't notice much difference.

Just copy the bat file into the folder where avgas.exe is located. Make a shortcut to the bat file on your desktop, etc. and set it to open minimized. When you click the shortcut the only real difference you will notice when AVGAS starts is that you will have two taskbar buttons for AVGAS instead of only one. Best of all when you close AVGAS the guard.exe service will stop also.

[Tarq57]

EUS,
Does having "unneeded" services running compromise the security of XP?
Or does that comment more relate to the fact that users are uninstalling useful security programs because of it?
There's no "loading" in this question, I simply don't know.

[Longboard]

There has been an interesting discussion continuing here re the "extra" services in Vista
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18485477

@Firebytes: maybe developers should be putting your batch file in the tools?

[Firebytes]

Hi Longboard,

I agree that they should put something into AVGAS to work as the bat file does but I can't take credit for the bat file, it was peter.ewido that wrote it.

I am just happy that I can now run AVGAS as an on-demand scanner on XP without the service constantly running. ;D

[Lucy85]

I had 7.5.1.36 and the manual update downloaded the new version and then prompt me to restart AVGAS. It does restart but without the guard service, so i closed AVGAS and ran the batch file. To my surprise, avgas or guard doesn't show up after running the batch file. I'm currently unable to reboot the computer due to certain programs running.

This is getting annoying. If this doesn't get fixed by the next version, it's time to say goodbye.

[lordpake]

-{ Quote: "I'm currently unable to reboot the computer due to certain programs running.

This is getting annoying. If this doesn't get fixed by the next version, it's time to say goodbye." }-
Perhaps you should try with a reboot, before complaining? :) After all considering the nature of application one would think a reboot after updating the actual program is necessary to make sure all new things are installed and running.

[Lucy85]

If a reboot is required to complete the installation, shouldn't AVGAS asked the user to do that? And it did start the program after finish installing so i don't think a reboot is necessary.

I rebooted my computer anyway and still unable to run the batch file, launching the avgas.exe prompts me to reinstall. This is a sad sight after being an Ewido user for years.

[Firebytes]

Lucy,

Do you have the guard.exe service stopped and set to manual? Did you copy the text for the bat file that peter.ewido wrote into notepad and then save it with a .bat extension instead of a .txt extension? You then have to save that file in the same folder where the executable for AVGAS is located. If you have done that you should be able to just double click on the bat file to check and see if it's working for you. If it is then you can create a shortcut to the bat file on the desktop if you wish and run it from there.

Just trying to make sure you have it set right as it works great here.

Also if you had the guard.exe service set to manual before the program update and then AVGAS asked to be restarted you needed to say no and then restart AVGAS yourself after manually restarting guard.exe or having allowed the bat file to have restarted it. If you had let AVGAS try to restart itself after the update it wouldn't have been able to restart the guard service itself if you had previously run the bat file and it had stopped the guard service after AVGAS shut itself down.

[Lucy85]

Yes, the batch file is valid and was working before the update.

Your last sentence is a bit confusing. Since i launched the program with the batch file, the guard service was running at the time when i allowed AVGAS to restart itself. AVGAS did restart without any problems but the guard service wasn't running when i checked Task Manager.

Since the guard service is needed to perform scan/clean/update etc, i shut down AVGAS and executed the batch file again. This time, neither avgas or guard.exe are launched since the DOS window doesn't even show up. So i set the guard service to auto and rebooted the pc and repeated the steps but it didn't work either. Executing avgas.exe by itself opens a prompt window, asking me to reinstall.

And there you have it.

[Firebytes]

Sorry if my previous post was confusing. Hope this one is better.

I think where things went wrong for you was allowing AVGAS to restart itself after the program update, instead of closing it manually and then restarting it with the bat file. Since guard.exe was set to manual AVGAS could not restart it when it restarted itself. AVGAS doesn't have that ability, that's why we need the bat file. Perhaps this chain of events somehow interfered with the installation of the update.

Have you already tried uninstalling AVGAS and reinstalling it? Maybe doing that and then updating again without allowing AVGAS to restart itself will fix the issue.

[Lucy85]

Nope, reinstalling didn't help so i've decided to purge AVGAS from my computer and use SuperAntiSpyware instead.

Thanks for trying to help. Guess this is the last time i'll be using a software from Grisoft.

[Firebytes]

Sorry you couldn't get AVGAS working Lucy. Maybe someone else will come up with the answer for your problem and you can reinstall it if you so choose.

As far as SuperAntispyware I use it myself and think it's an excellent application. I have never had one problem with it. It is definitely my first choice for on demand scans. I just like to have more than one scanner on my system for a second opinion. After all, no program is pefect.

[Rickster100]

After using Ewido 3.5, 4.0 for the last couple of years and now AVG Antispyware 7.5 free with the latest definition "update" (to which I had no choice but to accept) it updated to build 7.5.1.43.

I have now decided to remove this program for good on my XP Pro box. I dont need the guard.exe service continually running in the background consuming resources since AVG-AS is used as an on-demand scanner on my system. And I do not want to mess around with scripts playing with the service - thats too messy. Thumbs down to AVG.

[Firebytes]

-{ Quote: " I dont need the guard.exe service continually running in the background consuming resources since AVG-AS is used as an on-demand scanner on my system. And I do not want to mess around with scripts playing with the service - thats too messy. Thumbs down to AVG." }-

I agree Rickster that AVGAS programmers should find a way to stop guard.exe from running in the background on XP when AVGAS is not running. I guess they are concentrating on Vista where it must run in the background all the time and figure the rest of us can either use it as it is, use a batch file to start and stop guard.exe, or as many have done...abandon it altogether. Oh well, good news for the other antispyware apps such as SAS that don't require a service running constantly in the background I guess .

[SirMalware]

Hello,

For those who like AVGAS, but don't like the current issues with the guard.exe program, the ewido command line program works very well and is an excellent alternative. http://downloads.ewido.net/ewidoscan.zip

I use it all the time. :)

[Mrkvonic]

Hello,
This is the most annoying feature. Absolute minus.
That's all I can say.
Mrk

[danieleb]

-{ Quote: "Hello,

For those who like AVGAS, but don't like the current issues with the guard.exe program, the ewido command line program works very well and is an excellent alternative. http://downloads.ewido.net/ewidoscan.zip

I use it all the time. :)" }-
Never tried it, but I use ewido micro from time to time which is also neat. http://downloads.ewido.net/ewido_micro.exe

[DVD+R]

I cant see what all the Fuss is about :dry: I mean its as simple as this, you either want to be protected, or you dont :shifty: Therefore I dont find this AVGAS issue relevent to the complaints posted :dry: People need to understand how things work before they winge and moan :dry:

[Mrkvonic]

-{ Quote: "I cant see what all the Fuss is about :dry: I mean its as simple as this, you either want to be protected, or you dont :shifty: Therefore I dont find this AVGAS issue relevent to the complaints posted :dry: People need to understand how things work before they winge and moan :dry:" }-

Exactly. Therefore, try to understand ...
Mrk

[akhunter10]

I had this problem and it was due to a file named "C:\program"
I renamed the file, and everything works fine


-{ Quote: "Nope, reinstalling didn't help so i've decided to purge AVGAS from my computer and use SuperAntiSpyware instead.

Thanks for trying to help. Guess this is the last time i'll be using a software from Grisoft." }-

[karl.ewido]

akhunter10, are you sure that the filename was "C:\program"?
Because : and \ are not allowed symbols for a Windows filename.

[ratchet]

So exactly how should the .bat file be named. I apparently named it incorrectly. Thank You!