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QBgreen
June 4th, 2007, 09:06 AM
Yes, Vista compatibility is in effect. Read all about it right where you'd expect!

Steel
June 4th, 2007, 09:26 AM
-{ Quote: "Yes, Vista compatibility is in effect. Read all about it right where you'd expect!" }-

Somewhere a changeloag avaible ?

vinzenz.ewido
June 4th, 2007, 09:29 AM
Hi there,

Here a short overview about the changes in the new release:

- Windows Vista support
- Support for 64-Bit editions of Windows (Windows XP 64-bit & Windows Vista 64-Bit)
- Better reliability + speed of updates
- Higher priority for paying users on update servers
- Fixes for many bugs (including high CPU usage + scheduler bugs)

The problem with the slow/unreliable updates will not be fixed at once, it will take some time until the vast majority of the user base has switched to the new version.


The new version will also be released via online-update in the next days. You can either wait for the update or manually download it from:
http://downloads.grisoft.cz/softw/70/filedir/inst/avgas-setup-7.5.1.36.exe

In any case, a system reboot is required.

Regards,
Vinzenz

Steel
June 4th, 2007, 09:58 AM
Thanks for Input.

But, no other changes ?:o
I mean, some improvements to the engine ? Things like HIPPS or IDS etc ? Something, that makes AVG AS better in catching risk/malware or things like that ?

I would not like to be ungrateful, but, after 7 months without release no superben improvements on the engine, the real heart of that Program ?

Honestly said, I am nevertheless very much disappointed about this results after an 7 months waiting period

DVD+R
June 4th, 2007, 10:21 AM
Works pretty Damn Well here 8) Steel :dry: I can see you want both ends of the straw at once :shifty: Well dont be too Hasty they made sure it worked first, not like releasing buggy BETA's that other Companies Do, So Well Done to them in that respect,and as I said, Its up and running with no problems on my Machine :thumb:

Ocky
June 4th, 2007, 10:40 AM
Have AVG AS configured not to start with Windows. In the previous version, when clicking the shortcut on the start menu, the main window pops up, and I could simply close it (close button), and the tray icon and program remained active.
Now when closing the main window (close button), the program exits - no
more tray icon. Only way is to not close via the close button
on the main window, but to 'Hide main window' via the tray icon - then program remains active. It was easier before.

acooldozen
June 4th, 2007, 11:07 AM
Downloaded, installed, updated and working pretty damn fine here!

Steel
June 4th, 2007, 11:12 AM
-{ Quote: "Works pretty Damn Well here 8) Steel :dry: I can see you want both ends of the straw at once :shifty: Well dont be too Hasty they made sure it worked first, not like releasing buggy BETA's that other Companies Do, So Well Done to them in that respect,and as I said, Its up and running with no problems on my Machine :thumb:" }-
I'm sure, you know exact what i meant. This program lives on its engine. And there apparently nothing changed. Other manufacturers implement HIPPS, IDS whatever. But here the AS engine, after this release, seems the same as before.
So again, i don't to be ungrateful, but i'm really dissapointed.

chew
June 4th, 2007, 11:21 AM
Folks,

I updated with no problem but the right click scan is not working properly.

It used to work fine until few weeks ago and then it stopped altogether. Now with the newer version the problem remains.

Any idea why?

???

Ocky
June 4th, 2007, 11:30 AM
Right click scan seems to be OK - but (see my post #6) I must be careful not to close the main window via the GUI close button otherwise program
exits. Not nice.

siliconman01
June 4th, 2007, 12:45 PM
Installed V7.5.1.36 Plus on Dell XPS 410, Dual Core Memory, 4 gbytes RAM, Vista Home Premium, 5 Sata Drives, NIS 2007.3, TrojanHunter V4.6.930, SuperAntiSpyware 3.8.1. First full scan of 685,000 objects completed in ~35 minutes. All seems to be working well together. :D

lordpake
June 4th, 2007, 01:16 PM
-{ Quote: "I'm sure, you know exact what i meant. This program lives on its engine. And there apparently nothing changed. Other manufacturers implement HIPPS, IDS whatever. But here the AS engine, after this release, seems the same as before.
So again, i don't to be ungrateful, but i'm really dissapointed." }-

I myself would rather NOT have HIPS etc features added to AVG AS. If I want HIPS I go for PrevX and so on. Remember that a jack-of-all-trades is a master of none :) Also Steel you should note that this really isn't a major version change (look at the numbers ^^) so all the things they now gave us is a real treat considering that IMHO.

Happy to see a new release though :) even though i myself have been lucky enough to avoid most problems some people have. I, as licence holder, am not disappointed.

Mongol
June 4th, 2007, 04:49 PM
Will this install over the top of my current version or is a fresh install recommended...??? :o ;D

rdsu
June 4th, 2007, 05:22 PM
So, now we have to have the "guard.exe" always running to start AVG Anti-Spyware!? :(

Coff
June 4th, 2007, 05:45 PM
Assuming you don't have real time protection turned on and you don't want guard.exe running all the time, go to Start, then Run. Type services.msc into the Run box. When in Services, stop AVG Anti-Spyware Guard and change the start up type from Automatic to Manual. Then create a batch file by copying the following into notepad and saving as AVG Anti-Spyware.bat

net start "AVG Anti-Spyware Guard"
sc config "AVG Anti-Spyware Guard" start= auto
"C:\Program Files\Grisoft\AVG Anti-Spyware 7.5\avgas.exe"
sc config "AVg Anti-Spyware Guard" start= demand
net stop "AVg Anti-Spyware Guard"

To prevent the command window appearing every time you open AVG, create a shortcut to the .bat file and in Properties set the shortcut to run Minimized.

strangequark
June 4th, 2007, 05:49 PM
And just as my licence is about to run out, oh well I still have a few days left but after that it will be just the free version for on demand stuff :-( ................... unless of course they extend the licence to cover the last 6 months.

strangequark
June 4th, 2007, 06:19 PM
has anyone done a full system scan on a Vista box yet, I've been scanning for an hour and still in the C:Users\All Users\ Application Data\ Application Data\ Application Data\ Application Data\ Application Data\.................................... and on and on and on and on it goes. It's obviously caught in some type of loop, the same thing happened with Avast and Vista when doing a Boot Time scan, the Avast people had that fixed within a day or two.
I'd be really interested to see if anyone else has experienced this.

Just got out of the Application Data folder now, only took a little over an hour, normally the whole box would be done in half that time.

Edit: spoke to soon it's now doing it in C:Users\*******\Local Settings\ Application Data\ Application Data\ Application Data\ Application Data\ Application Data\....................................

Turning it off now .... getting bored\getting bored\getting bored\getting bored\getting bored\getting bored\.....................

rdsu
June 4th, 2007, 06:30 PM
Coff,

thanks for the tip ;)

But on this version this is very stupid, since on the last version we can left the service as enabled, instead of automatic, and when we executed the program, the service will also run...

Hope they can fix this annoyance!

Coff
June 4th, 2007, 06:38 PM
Yes, I agree with you. Previously, if the guard service was set to manual start it wasn't a problem starting up AVG.

Firecat
June 4th, 2007, 07:39 PM
-{ Quote: "I'm sure, you know exact what i meant. This program lives on its engine. And there apparently nothing changed. Other manufacturers implement HIPPS, IDS whatever. But here the AS engine, after this release, seems the same as before.
So again, i don't to be ungrateful, but i'm really dissapointed." }-
Engine upgrades/new features will probably be introduced with the release of AVG 8.0 at the end of the year ;)

Until then, enjoy this version, and a special thanks to Vinzenz and Grisoft for this (http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=1014466&postcount=64) and for the release of the new version! :)

Atomas31
June 4th, 2007, 07:49 PM
-{ Quote: "Coff,

thanks for the tip ;)

But on this version this is very stupid, since on the last version we can left the service as enabled, instead of automatic, and when we executed the program, the service will also run...

Hope they can fix this annoyance!" }-

I agreed with you that this is very stupid to have change this>:(
If they don't change it the way it was before and fix that annoyance, I am afraid it will be bye! bye! AVG anti-spyware from my system...

strangequark
June 5th, 2007, 12:01 AM
has no one else experienced a problem with doing a system scan yet, I see siliconman01 did one and all was normal. I just tried again and experienced the same as in my previous post. As soon as it gets to the Application Data folder under any of the User forders, for instance here's 2 ... C:Users\*******\Local Settings\ Application Data\..... and ..... C:Users\All Users\ Application Data\ ... , it goes into a loop as soon as it's finished scanning the Application Data folder it starts again by adding another folder so you get C:Users\All Users\ Application Data\ Application Data\ and so on, it just keeps adding another App Data folder and scans again and again ....................... in a loop.
A few people had a similar problem with earlier versions of Avast [v4.7.981 I think] and Vista when doing a Boot-Time scan and as I remember it was getting caught in a loop in the same place.

Green Giant
June 5th, 2007, 02:14 AM
But can one install the new version over the top of version 7.5.0.50 plus please, and then presumably reboot?

Thanks!

DVD+R
June 5th, 2007, 02:27 AM
-{ Quote: "But can one install the new version over the top of version 7.5.0.50 plus please, and then presumably reboot?

Thanks!" }-


Why dont you try it and See :dry:

Biscuit
June 5th, 2007, 03:14 AM
I gave the new version a run for old time's sake.

It installed in Vista32 perfectly & worked fine with both Nod32 & Prevx2 running. It ran an update with no problems. I then ran a scan which took about 7 mins & completed normally. The scan found nothing, not even a tracking cookie. There seems little point for me to run AVGAS any more, so I've uninstalled.

Firecat
June 5th, 2007, 03:27 AM
-{ Quote: "I gave the new version a run for old time's sake.

It installed in Vista32 perfectly & worked fine with both Nod32 & Prevx2 running. It ran an update with no problems. I then ran a scan which took about 7 mins & completed normally. The scan found nothing, not even a tracking cookie. There seems little point for me to run AVGAS any more, so I've uninstalled." }-
Its still a nice Anti-Trojan with good detection rates, why not keep it? :)
Are you unhappy at Grisoft for the lack of information on this product to you as a reseller? :)

beynac
June 5th, 2007, 06:36 AM
I was helping someone on a forum and they had a couple of problems. It wouldn't run in safe mode (connection error) and after scanning, they clicked on Apply all Actions and the report button remained greyed-out. I ran it myself (with the Eicar test file) and got the same result.

Has anyone else had the same problems? I'm not so worried about running it in safe mode but the lack of a report is, obviously, very serious.

peter.ewido
June 5th, 2007, 06:43 AM
@beynac: Could you please go to Settings and check if "Automatically generate report after every scan" is enabled?

beynac
June 5th, 2007, 06:52 AM
@peter.ewido: Yes it is and it was included in the instructions I gave to the OP.

peter.ewido
June 5th, 2007, 06:54 AM
Then it's greyed out because a report has already automatically been generated :)

beynac
June 5th, 2007, 07:06 AM
Hmmm... There's no report showing when I click on Reports on the menu and I couldn't see that one had been saved anywhere. The Reports folder in Documents and Settings\username\Application Data\Grisoft.... etc. is empty.

I don't know whether my OP had exactly the same situation. Here's a link to the post, if it helps: Linky (http://forum.malwareremoval.com/viewtopic.php?p=183600#183600)

beynac
June 5th, 2007, 07:12 AM
I just retried it with Do not automatically generate reports checked and got the report! :)

I'll change the 'canned speech' I use in the forums. Thanks for the quick response.

I was wondering whether the problem with running in safe mode is because AVG-AS needs the 'Guard' service running and that doesn't run in Safe Mode. Just a thought....

Ocky
June 5th, 2007, 09:03 AM
-{ Quote: "Right click scan seems to be OK - but (see my post #6) I must be careful not to close the main window via the GUI close button otherwise program
exits. Not nice." }-
It's not 'serious' but if I forget to "Hide main window" by r/clicking the tray
icon, and just click the close button on the GUI, the tray icon disappears
and avgas.exe terminates (guard.exe is still running).
I have been caught out several times this way. This was not the case with
the previous version. Everything else works fine. Doesn't this irritate
anybody, or is there something wrong with my install (clean install after
removing previous version) ?? ???

blueoysterdvp
June 5th, 2007, 11:12 AM
As previously asked in this thread a couple of times already but not answered,correct install for paid subscribers would be?Other than the update issue my 7.5 is working fine.I don't have Vista and an earlier post said the updater wouldn't be corrected right away.So at this point what is the plus side to upgrade with possible bugs looming?

peter.ewido
June 5th, 2007, 12:10 PM
Simply wait for it to be released via online-update :)

blueoysterdvp
June 5th, 2007, 12:19 PM
-{ Quote: "Simply wait for it to be released via online-update :)" }-

Thanks peter:thumb:

beynac
June 5th, 2007, 12:30 PM
My problem with automatic production of reports seems to be that no report is produced if AVG-AS finds an archive containing an infected file. It gives you the option to quarantine the archive itself, but no report is produced (nothing in 'Reports' tab - nothing in the Reports folder).
With just the zip folder containing the infected file(s) - no report
With the file(s) AND the zip folder - no report
With just the file(s) - report produced

Biscuit
June 5th, 2007, 01:58 PM
-{ Quote: "Its still a nice Anti-Trojan with good detection rates, why not keep it? :)
Are you unhappy at Grisoft for the lack of information on this product to you as a reseller? :)" }-

I already have Prevx running & there is some overlap between Nod32 & Prevx for Trojan protection. I think I'm covered, my main reason to install was to use AVGAS as an on-demand scanner (although my licence is still current) & to delete the odd tracking cookie. The issue is that even using AVGAS as on-demand, it still had the "guard" process running & although I know there are some hoops I could jump through to disable the guard process when not in use, I decided against using the product.

I've been unhappy with Grisoft generally since becoming a Grisoft reseller, there is no feedback from the company to resellers apart from marketing efforts to sell the anti-malware product - of which I have no interest. AVGAS continues to unreliably authenticate though an ISA server which makes it unreliable both for my end users & my own system.

It's likely that I will continue to use AVGAS as part of my suite of cleaning tools on an already infected computer, but I won't be selling the product again.

Sperwer
June 5th, 2007, 03:08 PM
I have version 7.5.0.50. Does avgas automatically udates to the new version or must i do this manually? I cannot see a option to check for programupdates.
Sorry for my poor english.
Last question: Must i remove the older version before downloading the newer version?

Jadda
June 5th, 2007, 04:03 PM
Works great :)

btman
June 5th, 2007, 05:50 PM
-{ Quote: "I gave the new version a run for old time's sake.

It installed in Vista32 perfectly & worked fine with both Nod32 & Prevx2 running. It ran an update with no problems. I then ran a scan which took about 7 mins & completed normally. The scan found nothing, not even a tracking cookie. There seems little point for me to run AVGAS any more, so I've uninstalled." }-

There's no point in having any anti-malware software if your not infected... Just because it didn't detect anything this time... It may pick up a trojan or something that NOD32 may miss later. I'd keep it as its helped me in more then one occurance (With non-false positives for the record).

Biscuit
June 6th, 2007, 02:55 AM
-{ Quote: "There's no point in having any anti-malware software if your not infected... Just because it didn't detect anything this time... It may pick up a trojan or something that NOD32 may miss later. I'd keep it as its helped me in more then one occurance (With non-false positives for the record)." }-

True, but I already have Nod32/Prevx2 which I'm more than happy with. The guard hassle is an issue to me too.

vinzenz.ewido
June 6th, 2007, 11:09 AM
-{ Quote: "I just retried it with Do not automatically generate reports checked and got the report! :)

I'll change the 'canned speech' I use in the forums. Thanks for the quick response. " }-

Will be fixed in the upcoming release

-{ Quote: "
I was wondering whether the problem with running in safe mode is because AVG-AS needs the 'Guard' service running and that doesn't run in Safe Mode. Just a thought...." }-

As workaround while it is not working in this working you can apply the registry patch which can be downloaded here:

http://fileserver.ewido.net/public.cgi?id=20990


We'll have fixed that issue with the next setup.

We're sorry for the inconvenience.

Regards,
Vinzenz

robinb9
June 6th, 2007, 11:18 AM
has anyone done this and found it fixed?

robin

vinzenz.ewido
June 6th, 2007, 11:31 AM
-{ Quote: "has anyone done this and found it fixed?

robin" }-
did you?

:dry:

tetonbob
June 6th, 2007, 11:57 AM
Thanks, Vinzenz -

Works for me on test machine after using the safeboot patch

Will you post somewhere to let us all know when this has been included into update?

cet
June 6th, 2007, 12:32 PM
This guard thing also bothered me.I have been using AVGAS since it was Ewido.But I will remove it from my PC.

duke1959
June 6th, 2007, 12:34 PM
I have to agree that AVGAS needs to have something for RealTime Detection other than Signatures. With free programs like Spyware Termintor and improved paid ones like a squared Anti-Malware with it's IDS, why would you need AVGAS?

robinb9
June 6th, 2007, 12:53 PM
no I have not because I wanted to wait and see who did but can someone from AVGAS tell us when it will be fixed in another update?

There are alot who do not like to fool around with the registry and there are alot who do not come here and have no clue until they try to go into safe mode that it doesn't work.


robin

robinb9
June 6th, 2007, 12:55 PM
also I have not seen it yet via my Pro version and it updated definitions today but no update for the program version yet. When will this happen?

robin

Sperwer
June 6th, 2007, 01:59 PM
-{ Quote: "Simply wait for it to be released via online-update :)" }-
works that also for the free version?

Riverrun
June 6th, 2007, 02:07 PM
The update issue is well and truely fixed but I'm personally not happy with the AVG guard being the way it is. I simply don't want it running in the background.
I have never used the Resident Shield and I don't want to do so now. I'd like to continue to use AVGAS as an on demand scanner but I see no prospect of doing that, things being the way they are. The only option is to remove it from my compuer which I shall be doing forthwith.

beynac
June 6th, 2007, 03:58 PM
@Vinzenz: Re. automatic report production and safe mode problems.

Thanks very much for sorting these out. Much appreciated. :)

tetonbob
June 6th, 2007, 10:17 PM
Peter or Vinzenz -

For the free version....what will happen after 30 day trial period is over? (is it still 30 days?)

Will it still clean?

IIRC, it was guard that timed out in earlier version.....if guard times out after trial.....??

beynac
June 7th, 2007, 04:44 AM
-{ Quote: "For the free version....what will happen after 30 day trial period is over? (is it still 30 days?)

Will it still clean?

IIRC, it was guard that timed out in earlier version.....if guard times out after trial.....??" }-
The Guard service still runs even if the resident shield is not enabled. My version 'timed out' after I reinstalled it yesterday - everything is still working as before.

robinb9
June 8th, 2007, 04:46 PM
Can someone tell me why the new Pro version has not come through the updater on the program when it goes out to look for updates?

Mine has not and neither has 4 of my clients who also have the pro.

Will it be coming out soon?

robin

strangequark
June 8th, 2007, 07:07 PM
-{ Quote: "Can someone tell me why the new Pro version has not come through the updater on the program when it goes out to look for updates?

Mine has not and neither has 4 of my clients who also have the pro.

Will it be coming out soon?

robin" }-
not sure but it may be because they are working on a new build to fix a few problems with this release. I posted earlier in this thread about a problem I was having with full system scans getting caught in a loop, no body here seemed to be experiencing the same issue and no one from AVG answered my posts so I PM'd one of the ewido guys and was told they had reproduced the problem I, and I suspect a few others, were having and it would be fixed in the new build they were preparing, so at a guess I suspect they're hanging out till then. Hopefully it wont be too long as it was a bit disappointing to finally get a Vista version only to find it wasn't working properly.

robinb
June 9th, 2007, 11:48 AM
I hope you are right and they send a newer version, I would like to see all the kinks out before they send it for my pro version, but it would also be nice if someone from ewido posted here to reassure us all that this is going to happen like you said.

I downloaded it for my vista machine-(home premium that I will keep as free- so far I see no problems but if they update that I will install that over it i guess.

robin

tetonbob
June 9th, 2007, 12:16 PM
-{ Quote: "Peter or Vinzenz -

For the free version....what will happen after 30 day trial period is over? (is it still 30 days?)

Will it still clean?

IIRC, it was guard that timed out in earlier version.....if guard times out after trial.....??" }-

Asked and answered in another thread:

http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=1021148&postcount=27

vinzenz.ewido
June 9th, 2007, 04:16 PM
We're working on the new build and after we have verified all (yet known) bugs are fixed we're going to release it. I cannot tell you any eta right now but it should be very soon.

Regards,
Vinzenz

robinb9
June 10th, 2007, 11:18 AM
-{ Quote: "We're working on the new build and after we have verified all (yet known) bugs are fixed we're going to release it. I cannot tell you any eta right now but it should be very soon.

Regards,
Vinzenz" }-


Thank you Vinzenz for the response:-* :thumb:

Robin

coalboy
June 12th, 2007, 09:58 PM
I'm just so happy to have it back to where I feel it belongs.. Slap in the middle of my progs list! S'pose its just greed, but I'm yearning for the AVG firewall now too! ;D

philebus
June 12th, 2007, 10:28 PM
If I didn't read this forum, I would not have known that a new version of avg antispyware, that fixed the update problem, was out. This is unsatisfactory. Most other programs tell you when you open them that a new version is out. Why can't avg anti spyware do this, especially if you are, as I am, a paid subscriber.

coalboy
June 13th, 2007, 12:17 AM
Avg did claim I believe that the new build, to those who did not immediately download, would be offered in a soon to come update.

Ocky
June 14th, 2007, 04:59 AM
-{ Quote: "It's not 'serious' but if I forget to "Hide main window" by r/clicking the tray
icon, and just click the close button on the GUI, the tray icon disappears
and avgas.exe terminates (guard.exe is still running).
I have been caught out several times this way. This was not the case with
the previous version. Everything else works fine. Doesn't this irritate
anybody, or is there something wrong with my install (clean install after
removing previous version) ?? ???" }-

Doesn't seem to bother anybody, but forgetting to re-enable avgas after
scanning a file and closing the GUI via the close button is compromising
security. Can this be fixed in a future update please ? (Program is set to
not start with Windows as I prefer to start it manually.)