Sandboxie v2.86 deleted "My Documents"

[ErikAlbert]

I hate to tell this, but during testing the sandbox as described on this webpage
http://www.sandboxie.com/index.php?TestingTheSandbox
the complete folder "My Documents" on my Data Partition [D:]
disappeared before my eyes when I clicked on this folder to open it.
It was completely gone with all its subfolders.

I had to mount an image on my external harddisk to recover it.
I'm lucky I backup my data partition daily, so I didn't lose anything.
Such behaviour is unacceptable. I can't trust Sandboxie anymore. I uninstalled it. :(

[aigle]

Did u check the log of Sanboxie? Or its contents?

[ErikAlbert]

{QUOTE-> Did u check the log of Sanboxie? Or its contents? <-QUOTE}
Too late man. I uninstalled it. No software does that to me without being punished.

[Longboard]

You sure the problem is not the wetware? ;D
Did you ask tzuk?
May save some others problems?

[ErikAlbert]

{QUOTE-> You sure the problem is not the wetware? ;D
Did you ask tzuk?
May save some others problems? <-QUOTE}
What means wetware ? (English isn't my first language)

[halcyon]

Thanks for posting this. That thing just flew off my "try and maybe keep" list forever :)

[Longboard]

Hardware = Hardware
Wetware = Belgian Bioplasm = ErikAlbert ;)
Your English is fine.

Seriously, did you post at Sandboxie forums.?

[GlobalForce]

"Punished" Erik? :D Those special folder's are a bit sketchy anyway. Best not to keep important item's there.

Steve

[flinchlock]

{QUOTE-> Too late man. I uninstalled it. No software does that to me without being punished. <-QUOTE}
{QUOTE-> May save some others problems? <-QUOTE}
Ready... fire... aim... Kids! :wacko:

Mike

[Seishin]

{QUOTE-> I hate to tell this, but during testing the sandbox as described on this webpage
http://www.sandboxie.com/index.php?TestingTheSandbox
the complete folder "My Documents" on my Data Partition [D:]
disappeared before my eyes when I clicked on this folder to open it.
It was completely gone with all its subfolders.

I had to mount an image on my external harddisk to recover it.
I'm lucky I backup my data partition daily, so I didn't lose anything.
Such behaviour is unacceptable. I can't trust Sandboxie anymore. I uninstalled it. :( <-QUOTE}

Sorry to hear that Erik...lucky you did have a back up.

OTH, don't want to bash the proggie but I unistalled SB from this box almost a year ago for similar reasons (the bugger deleted files I had in one of my drives just out of the blue, for no reason...gee that pissed me off big time!) and for crashing my box due to software incompatibility issues.

Anyway, I also feel it doesn't run well under LUA (lim. user acc.), and for me LUA is one of the first security measures to be put into practice in any Windows box. No way, I would run SB under Admin.

I no longer use this thing. It has very positive points and one can surf very safely even in the dark side but the cons are too serious to be ignored.

[Peter2150]

{QUOTE-> I hate to tell this, but during testing the sandbox as described on this webpage
http://www.sandboxie.com/index.php?TestingTheSandbox
the complete folder "My Documents" on my Data Partition [D:]
disappeared before my eyes when I clicked on this folder to open it.
It was completely gone with all its subfolders.

I had to mount an image on my external harddisk to recover it.
I'm lucky I backup my data partition daily, so I didn't lose anything.
Such behaviour is unacceptable. I can't trust Sandboxie anymore. I uninstalled it. :( <-QUOTE}

Are you sure that the problem is Sandboxie or the steps it to move My Documents. If I were you I'd want to be sure or you might find something else does the same thing to you. Sounds like something made Sandboxie think the whole of your my documents was sandboxed and so it got deleted when you did the delete step.

You could be right, it could be a problem with Sandboxie, but it also could something else, and you might want to consider really understanding what happened.

Pete

[Jarmo P]

I do really doubt too, Erik that running Sandboxie has nothing to do with you loosing whatever you had in your D drive! It sounds so wierd that I cannot say much more than it is really wierd to happen?
Jarmo

[ErikAlbert]

I'm 100% sure it was Sandboxie, I wasn't doing anything else and no I wasn't drunk, if that means wetware.
Opening the folder "My Documents" isn't the same as deleting the folder "My Documents".
The folder just disappeared after clicking it, without any warning, without any confirmation and without using any function, than clicking on it.
I can't trust such a software, no matter what the cause was. A software doesn't delete your entire folder "My Documents" just like that. That is unacceptable. So I unstalled it and won't use it again. This was its second chance and SB blew it.
Long ago I uninstalled it too, because it didn't function properly on my old computer. This time it worked properly until this happened.

[lodore]

{QUOTE-> I'm 100% sure it was Sandboxie, I wasn't doing anything else and no I wasn't drunk, if that means wetware.
Opening the folder "My Documents" isn't the same as deleting the folder "My Documents".
The folder just disappeared after clicking it, without any warning, without any confirmation and without using any function, than clicking on it.
I can't trust such a software, no matter what the cause was. A software doesn't delete your entire folder "My Documents" just like that. That is unacceptable. So I unstalled it and won't use it again. This was its second chance and SB blew it.
Long ago I uninstalled it too, because it didn't function properly on my old computer. This time it worked properly until this happened. <-QUOTE}

that is unaceptable im just glad you got your data back.
its a bit like when my documents got deleted by the thunderbird profile manager
im still looking for a replacement to thunderbird
lodore

[EASTER.2010]

{QUOTE-> Too late man. I uninstalled it. No software does that to me without being punished. <-QUOTE}


Rofl ;D

Seriously, and with all due respect, i have experienced only problems with Sandboxie no matter what version but yours is a first and the most extreme issue i seen yet. :o



(although i'm again tempted to v2.64 once more) under POWER SHADOW!

[ErikAlbert]

{QUOTE-> Rofl ;D

Seriously, and with all due respect, i have experienced only problems with Sandboxie no matter what version but yours is a first and the most extreme issue i seen yet. :o



(although i'm again tempted to v2.64 once more) under POWER SHADOW! <-QUOTE}
Well my disaster with Sandboxie, might be a reason for me to use PowerShadow after all. I will think about it.

[silver0066]

{QUOTE-> I'm 100% sure it was Sandboxie, I wasn't doing anything else and no I wasn't drunk, if that means wetware.
Opening the folder "My Documents" isn't the same as deleting the folder "My Documents".
The folder just disappeared after clicking it, without any warning, without any confirmation and without using any function, than clicking on it.
I can't trust such a software, no matter what the cause was. A software doesn't delete your entire folder "My Documents" just like that. That is unacceptable. So I unstalled it and won't use it again. This was its second chance and SB blew it.
Long ago I uninstalled it too, because it didn't function properly on my old computer. This time it worked properly until this happened. <-QUOTE}Geeez....I just sent them my $25 to register. I keep good backups, so I will try it for awhile. That is really disappointing. I tried Green Borders also, and it was very buggy. I could not even get a green border.

I thought Sandboxie was the answer. It is a great idea, but only if it works.

[EASTER.2010]

Well, POWER SHADOW! certainly won't suddenly delete folders/files on any drive like that.

PS only removes folders/files/settings from shadowed runs and either on a single partition of your choosing or the whole volume= "all partitions". But it will never remove anything that you've already had established on your system before entering Shadow-Mode. The whole purpose of PS is to preserve not to eliminate.

Experiencing such a program failure like that from any soft is completely punishable by banishment and hits my permanent black-list of apps never to touch again.

[ErikAlbert]

{QUOTE->
Experiencing such a program failure like that from any soft is completely punishable by banishment and hits my permanent black-list of apps never to touch again. <-QUOTE}
You got that right. Good grief, Sandboxie destroyed 80% of my HARD WORK in one hit. The killdisk virus would do the same on my system partition.
A software that does that to me is finished on my computer, no matter what other people think, I have my principles, that's why I stay out of trouble.
I'm not happy that this happened, because I started to like Sandboxie and I was planning to use it in my frozen snapshot, but not anymore after this.

[Pedro]

Sorry to hear that Erik. Must be a true PITA.

But:
Seems to me, at first glance, that anyone who keeps My Documents in C:, where it is default, nothing bad should happen.

Because you moved the directory, that must be the problem. Has to be.

I keep SB. I had no problems with it.

[ErikAlbert]

{QUOTE-> Sorry to hear that Erik. Must be a true PITA.

But:
Seems to me, at first glance, that anyone who keeps My Documents in C:, where it is default, nothing bad should happen.

Because you moved the directory, that must be the problem. Has to be.

I keep SB. I had no problems with it. <-QUOTE}
That might be the cause indeed, it crossed my mind too.
I have my own reasons to put my data on a separate harddisk/partition and that is more important to me than Sandboxie.
After all there are other similar softwares to replace Sandboxie.
I also ditch any software that doesn't like FDISR and many FDISR-users do exactly the same. :)

[EASTER.2010]

{QUOTE-> I also ditch any software that doesn't like FDISR and many FDISR-users do exactly the same. <-QUOTE}

As much as i continue to enjoy POWER SHADOW and fond of it's tremendous benefits and production in my studies & research, if it or any other program even hints at making issue with FD-ISR and the snapshots/archives, you can bet that program is going to become immediatedly deported as in (ERASER) 7 passes, outta here, history. Same goes for anything that auto-deletes my documents folders/files without my explicit permission to do so.

[Bob D]

This is really bizarre.
I'm not doubting Erik's painfully bad experience, but it sounds so odd.
{QUOTE-> "Programs running in a sandbox do not have actual access to any real files. If a program in a sandbox attempts to erase a file, then the file will be removed from inside the sandbox only and the real file will be unaffected." <-QUOTE}
Unless something's horribly wrong.........
Someone should post a query to Tzuk.

[Peter2150]

Erik could you post exactly what you were doing. I'd like to try duplicating your steps and see what happens.

Pete

[ErikAlbert]

{QUOTE-> This is really bizarre.
I'm not doubting Erik's painfully bad experience, but it sounds so odd.

Unless something's horribly wrong.........
Someone should post a query to Tzuk. <-QUOTE}
IMO Sandboxie is developped in a standard environment : a standard PC with only one harddisk and one partition [C:] with EVERYTHING on it and all data are stored under "My Documents" on [C:] and that's why Sandboxie will function on most computers without problems, because SB has been created and tested on such a standard PC and minor problems on standard PC's were fixed during the years.

Once you don't have the standard PC anymore, like me, you better watch out when you start using Sandboxie. :)

[Pedro]

{QUOTE-> Erik could you post exactly what you were doing. I'd like to try duplicating your steps and see what happens.

Pete <-QUOTE}
When you do, use the "closed file path" comand for My Documents(ClosedFilePath=%Personal%) in the sandboxie.ini file. Or the whole D:
As a comparison, in case it does mess with it.
Under defaultbox (or whatever you use).
http://www.sandboxie.com/index.php?ClosedFilePath

This comand should prevent you from even looking at the folder, from the sandboxed program (browser).

[Bob D]

{QUOTE-> IMO Sandboxie is developped in a standard environment : a standard PC with only one harddisk and one partition [C:] with EVERYTHING on it and all data are stored under "My Documents" on [C:].......
Once you don't have the standard PC anymore, like me, you better watch out.... :) <-QUOTE}
I must respectfully challenge that opinion.
SandboxIE has been tested/run on MANY different puter configurations.
I have 8 drives (4 ea on 2 HDs). Never any (even the smallest) issue.
Yes, I know this is no consolation to you.
And no, I'm not playing the "SandboxIE is the greatest and cannot have caused this problem" fanboy game.
{QUOTE-> Erik could you post exactly what you were doing. I'd like to try duplicating your steps and see what happens.

Pete
<-QUOTE}
Yes, please, Erik.
Other users will be quite curious as to the cause of this.

Cheers

[flimbag]

{QUOTE-> I must respectfully challenge that opinion.
SandboxIE has been tested/run on MANY different puter configurations.
I have 8 drives (4 ea on 2 HDs). Never any (even the smallest) issue.
<-QUOTE}

Here also. Six partitions on four drives.

That said, I limit what I allow Sandboxie to access by using absolute file paths. And anything I want to move out of the Sandbox, I move out manually. I like to keep stuff simple.

Personally, I've never seen any signs of Sandboxie accessing anything outside the rigidly allocated sandbox I've established at C:\sandbox

[namdog]

Eric, Sorry to hear your story.

I have posted two or three topics about the stability of Sandboxie.
I mentioned that Sandboxie made my PCs (2 laptop, 1 desktop, 5 vmware, 5 virtual box) frozen in 10 minutes.
One way is to copy "Documents and Settings" from one folder to another.

In my trial of old Sandboxie, some icons on my desktop were removed after test Sandboxie.

I am lucky because I am protected by PowerShadow before I test Sandboxie ( Or Sandboxie test me ?).

{QUOTE-> I hate to tell this, but during testing the sandbox as described on this webpage
http://www.sandboxie.com/index.php?TestingTheSandbox
the complete folder "My Documents" on my Data Partition [D:]
disappeared before my eyes when I clicked on this folder to open it.
It was completely gone with all its subfolders.

I had to mount an image on my external harddisk to recover it.
I'm lucky I backup my data partition daily, so I didn't lose anything.
Such behaviour is unacceptable. I can't trust Sandboxie anymore. I uninstalled it. :( <-QUOTE}

[ErikAlbert]

OK. My intention was to learn Sandboxie more in detail, because I only used it a few days.
So I open "Help & FAQ" tab on the SB-website and open the Tutorial "Getting Started". I read that page and check, if it is all true in my Sandboxie and it was correct.
So I click on "TestingTheSandbox" which continues the tutorial and this is the page where the disaster happened. I skipped the first test and continued with the second test using Notepad in Firefox.
http://www.sandboxie.com/index.php?TestingTheSandbox

1. I open Firefox sandboxed.
2. I open Notepad according the procedure and Notepad is also sandboxed.
3. I type TestingTheSandbox as text in the Notepad file and store it under the name "TestingTheSandbox".
4. I open Windows Explorer to see the real folder "My Documents".
5. I click on "My Computer", "Data Partition [D:] to see "My Documents", because the notepad-file "TestingTheSandbox" wasn't supposed to be there, because it was stored in the SANDBOX.
6. So I click on "My Documents" to verify this and then BANG "My Documents" was GONE.

I don't remember exactly every single action, but I just followed the test.
I didn't open "My Documents" via the Start-button, I opened "My Documents" via Windows Explorer. I don't think that makes a difference and it shouldn't be a difference either.

PS: I never moved the folder "My Documents" from C to D, I created my own folder "My Documents" on D.
My original folder "My Documents" is still on C, but EMPTY.

[EASTER.2010]

{QUOTE-> I am lucky because I am protected by PowerShadow before I test Sandboxie ( Or Sandboxie test me ?). <-QUOTE}

Another satisifed user of POWER SHADOW! who impliments the positive protection approach against such the possibility of a program malfunction = sandboxie :dry:

I thought it was buggy before but now if this holds true to form what happened to Erik, that program needs some serious restructuring or at the very least more in-house testing.

[Peter2150]

{QUOTE-> OK. My intention was to learn Sandboxie more in detail, because I only used it a few days.
So I open "Help & FAQ" tab on the SB-website and open the Tutorial "Getting Started". I read that page and check, if it is all true in my Sandboxie and it was correct.
So I click on "TestingTheSandbox" which continues the tutorial and this is the page where the disaster happened. I skipped the first test and continued with the second test using Notepad in Firefox.
http://www.sandboxie.com/index.php?TestingTheSandbox

1. I open Firefox sandboxed.
2. I open Notepad according the procedure and Notepad is also sandboxed.
3. I type TestingTheSandbox as text in the Notepad file and store it under the name "TestingTheSandbox".
4. I open Windows Explorer to see the real folder "My Documents".
5. I click on "My Computer", "Data Partition [D:] to see "My Documents", because the notepad-file "TestingTheSandbox" wasn't supposed to be there, because it was stored in the SANDBOX.
6. So I click on "My Documents" to verify this and then BANG "My Documents" was GONE.

I don't remember exactly every single action, but I just followed the test.
I didn't open "My Documents" via the Start-button, I opened "My Documents" via Windows Explorer. I don't think that makes a difference and it shouldn't be a difference either.

PS: I never moved the folder "My Documents" from C to D, I created my own folder "My Documents" on D.
My original folder "My Documents" is still on C, but EMPTY. <-QUOTE}

Can't quite duplicate this, cause I don't run firefox, but I'll play tomorrow afternoon and see what I can see.

[chew]

ErikAlbert, Sorry to hear about the problem ... that's very bad indeed. Sandboxie has been giving me the constant update loop to upgrade my Firefox all the time eventhough I installed the latest Sandboxie version. The advised from others was to uninstall my Firefox to fix the problem. errmm ... I don't like the idea of messing about with my Firefox so that's no good for me. Since I installed Power Shadow, Sandboxie is no longer in use so I am just going to uninstall it now. Too risky by the sound of that and I cannot afford such problem happens to me.

[ErikAlbert]

It strikes me that this thread has so many PowerShadow users. ;D ;D ;D

[ErikAlbert]

{QUOTE-> "Punished" Erik? :D Those special folder's are a bit sketchy anyway. Best not to keep important item's there.

Steve <-QUOTE}
Does that change anything ? I will put it even stronger. Never store your personal data on an on-line computer. I hope you did this otherwise your data isn't safe either.

Besides this has nothing to do with this bug of Sandboxie.

Where to put your documents is another problem.

[EASTER.2010]

{QUOTE-> It strikes me that this thread has so many PowerShadow users. ;D ;D ;D <-QUOTE}

Care to join that crowd? ;D

[ErikAlbert]

{QUOTE-> Care to join that crowd? ;D <-QUOTE}
I'm not in a hurry I'm busy with Anti-Executable now. DefenseWall is also a possible choice. Finding the right softwares is my biggest problem. AE has at least a good documentation.
My best buy is still FirstDefense-ISR, all the rest doesn't satisfy me, maybe ShadowProtect, who knows.

[EASTER.2010]

Indeed! I'm also looking at matters in the exact manner.

FD-ISR is completely swung me around a FULL 360! not 180. I had no idea at the time i was rambling about in the forums, testing and discussing malware prevention that this single program was as POWERFUL and RELIABLE as it's proven out to be, although a vast majority of completely satisfied users right here kept pounding away at that point over and over again. (Like you still do) ;D

Now enters ShadowProtect and from everything i've seen and read from it's users here comes yet another POWERFUL & DEPENDABLE overall recovery system that is very likely unmatched of it's kind sort of in the same category as FD-ISR!

After all these years with these notoriously unpredicable computing machines i feel that only now that i'm beginning to become fully COMPLETE!!!

[ErikAlbert]

{QUOTE-> Indeed! I'm also looking at matters in the exact manner.

FD-ISR is completely swung me around a FULL 360! not 180. I had no idea at the time i was rambling about in the forums, testing and discussing malware prevention that this single program was as POWERFUL and RELIABLE as it's proven out to be, although a vast majority of completely satisfied users right here kept pounding away at that point over and over again. (Like you still do) ;D

Now enters ShadowProtect and from everything i've seen and read from it's users here comes yet another POWERFUL & DEPENDABLE overall recovery system that is very likely unmatched of it's kind sort of in the same category as FD-ISR!

After all these years with these notoriously unpredicable computing machines i feel that only now that i'm beginning to become fully COMPLETE!!! <-QUOTE}
Since I bought my new computer, I have spent all my freetime on Image Backup and above all on Immediate System Recovery.
Now I'm going to spend all my time on security softwares that fit in a frozen snapshot.
My bad experience with Sandboxie was an excellent test to prove that my recovery solution works. I got all my data back in no time.

I won't have the same result with security softwares, I know this already in advance. They are just not good enough, but my frozen snapshot will cover all the failures of these security softwares.

[Peter2150]

Erik

I did the test Exactly like he said, using IE and I copy/pasted his string. I did close notepad before I went looking for it. Had no trouble first seeing the file wasn't there. Recovered the file, and there it was. Depending how you created a new My Documents which is a special windows thingie, and how you saved the file, I'd bet that is where the problem lie.

On a system set up like Microdaddy suggests Sandboxie worked as advertised.

Note to those that don't know. I am setup with everything on my C; drive and one partition. Works fine.

Pete

[Peter2150]

{QUOTE-> Indeed! I'm also looking at matters in the exact manner.

FD-ISR is completely swung me around a FULL 360! not 180. I had no idea at the time i was rambling about in the forums, testing and discussing malware prevention that this single program was as POWERFUL and RELIABLE as it's proven out to be, although a vast majority of completely satisfied users right here kept pounding away at that point over and over again. (Like you still do) ;D

Now enters ShadowProtect and from everything i've seen and read from it's users here comes yet another POWERFUL & DEPENDABLE overall recovery system that is very likely unmatched of it's kind sort of in the same category as FD-ISR!

After all these years with these notoriously unpredicable computing machines i feel that only now that i'm beginning to become fully COMPLETE!!! <-QUOTE}

Easter it's kinda funny. I used to be scared to death of doing a restore. Now, starting as Erik did with a new machine, and then finding ShadowProtect, restoring has become Ho Hum. Did two restores on my machine just tonight playing around. And if you think FDISR and something like SP makes you invincible through in a VMware virtual machine. There you can do a rollback that FDISR,Rollback,Eazfix,Shadowuser, and PowerShadow cant do. You can take a snapshot, then format the disk, and rollback to the snapshot, and you are right back where you started. Amazing.

Pete

[ErikAlbert]

{QUOTE-> Erik

I did the test Exactly like he said, using IE and I copy/pasted his string. I did close notepad before I went looking for it. Had no trouble first seeing the file wasn't there. Recovered the file, and there it was. Depending how you created a new My Documents which is a special windows thingie, and how you saved the file, I'd bet that is where the problem lie.

On a system set up like Microdaddy suggests Sandboxie worked as advertised.

Note to those that don't know. I am setup with everything on my C; drive and one partition. Works fine.

Pete <-QUOTE}
It's almost predictable that your testing would be successfull. That doesn't surprise me. Sandboxie just can't handle all situations. So it's not the right software for me. I have no problem with this. Sandboxie isn't the only software. :)

[Rmus]

{QUOTE-> Originally Posted by Pedro
Because you moved the directory, that must be the problem. Has to be. <-QUOTE}
{QUOTE-> That might be the cause indeed, it crossed my mind too.
I have my own reasons to put my data on a separate harddisk/partition <-QUOTE}I have never been in favor of moving a Shell folder. People did it back in Win95/98 days by manually changing a ShellFolders key in the Registry, and the procedure was simplified when TweakUI was released (GUI editor for the Registry). But I never liked the idea.

A simpler way is to just avoid using "C:/...My Documents" at all, and just assign a different default FileSaveAs path, and other File Locations Paths, for your programs. Most programs have Options settings, such as MSWord:

http://www.urs2.net/rsj/computing/imgs/word-opts.gif

Your browser download folder can be anywhere you want.
You can create your Pictures, Music, etc directories anywhere you want.

Installing Deep Freeze for a user, for example, requires at least two partitions for the Home Edition,
because you don't want anything to write to C:\, since it is removed on reboot.



regards,

-rich

________________________________________________________________
"Talking About Security Can Lead To Anxiety, Panic, And Dread...
Or Cool Assessments, Common Sense And Practical Planning..."
--Bruce Schneier

[EASTER.2010]

Likewise Pete.

In my case i had way too many awkward experiences with backup programs over the seasons to ever think i could ever be comfortable with any type of program imaging or backup solution again.
That was before FD! It's just so stable & quick to restore EVERYTHING! totally intact! Plus affords me to set several snaps with completely different configurations not to mention customized interfaces/bootscreens/log-in screens and all that eye-candy that $M would never offer by default. With FD you can experience SEVERAL! and preserve them via archives by keeping them updated. AWESOME!!

The only full imaging program that's afforded some relief for me however is been PARAGON's, but even then i always held my breath till the activity finally proved successful. I still can depend on Paragon to a point but i always felt there was something more that a full imaging program could offer which would COMPLETE that virtue of FULL CONFIDENCE. I don't even have it yet but already can anticipate that ShadowProtect will far excell in much the same manner as FD is done and thus make full-imaging jobs as routine & rapid as opening and closing notepad to coin a very simple analogy. :)

[ErikAlbert]

Rmus,
I did NOT move any folder created by Windows from [C:] to [D:], because I didn't want to make Windows unstable.
My system partition is exactly the same as Peter's harddisk. All folders under C:\Document and Settings are still on my system partition [C:], I just don't use them, they are EMPTY. That's all.

I only moved the profiles folder of Firefox and Thunderbird, but these are not created by Windows.
Mozilla even describes how to do this on their websites.

I like this separation and no software like Sandboxie is going to change this.

[Rmus]

OK, I misunderstood your first post,

{QUOTE-> the complete folder "My Documents" on my Data Partition [D:] <-QUOTE}I recall in another thread you were talking about moving folders from C:\ to D:\

Please explain Pedro's and your comment about moving a folder.

-rich

[ErikAlbert]

{QUOTE-> OK, I misunderstood your first post,

I recall in another thread you were talking about moving folders from C:\ to D:\

Please explain Pedro's and your comment about moving a folder.

-rich <-QUOTE}
Yes but that is MY folder created by me, that's not the folder created by Windows.
I talked about this, but I never did it in practice.
When I re-install my computer, I will give my "My Documents" another name to avoid confusion. For instance : "My Shyt".

[Rmus]

{QUOTE-> I talked about this, but I never did it in practice. <-QUOTE}OK, thanks. That clears up the matter.

-rich

[Kees1958]

{QUOTE-> I'm 100% sure it was Sandboxie, I wasn't doing anything else and no I wasn't drunk, if that means wetware. <-QUOTE}

Don't let your leg pulled by an Auzzie, they are just jaleous. I always tease my Australian relatives when they asked whether I tried their beer by responding: "Yeah man it is like a canoeing on the ocean". Then they ask you to explain "well it is closest thing to water and keeps you thirsty"

;)

Regards K

[Meriadoc]

{QUOTE-> "My Documents" on my Data Partition [D:] disappeared before my eyes <-QUOTE}
:o Wow, that's unfortunate! never seen that with SB - but thats why we have back up and recovery strategies in place eh.

[GlobalForce]

Concerning what happened to you, no. Storing important data on a net connected computer is an absolute no~no and sound advice I agree. Having your precious FDISR in place, wise. I do sense however most reader's will be viewing this thread as nothing more than a warning post based on your rather unfortunate experience. Stating your quick withdrawl and lack of willingness to sort this out with support, you'd be hard pressed to prove to any of us (yourself included) this to be the sole fault of SB.

On the other hand, this thread is a fine example of why it's important to have a good backup strategy in place. Folk's like youself, Peter2150, other prominent poster's here, convey well the benefit's and reliability of running First Defense. Best wishes toward's finding software that rises to your demanding standard's, not so sorry to hear SB didn't make the cut. Further investigation may indeed yield a happy ending .... "Well my disaster with Sandboxie, might be a reason for me to use PowerShadow after all. I will think about it." You do that Erik.


Steve

[tepe2]

{QUOTE-> SandBoxie too performed well and only failed in one test; user data is accessible to sandboxed processes. <-QUOTE}

http://www.techsupportalert.com/security_virtualization.htm

I was considering Sandboxie, but I am not so sure anymore.

[flimbag]

{QUOTE-> http://www.techsupportalert.com/security_virtualization.htm

I was considering Sandboxie, but I am not so sure anymore. <-QUOTE}

But apparently he considers it one of his 48 best ever freeware utilities:

http://www.techsupportalert.com/best_46_free_utilities.htm

(Best free browser protection utility.)

[Peter2150]

{QUOTE-> http://www.techsupportalert.com/security_virtualization.htm

I was considering Sandboxie, but I am not so sure anymore. <-QUOTE}

If you have a fairly standard routine you should be safe. Never hurts to have backups. I think Erik's situation was a fluke in all honesty.

[Pedro]

{QUOTE-> OK, I misunderstood your first post,

I recall in another thread you were talking about moving folders from C:\ to D:\

Please explain Pedro's and your comment about moving a folder.

-rich <-QUOTE}
That was my assumption too. But as he says, that's not the case, so back to square one.:-\
I still don't get it. The only thing that stops me from saying "it's impossible" is that i believe him.
{QUOTE-> http://www.techsupportalert.com/security_virtualization.htm

I was considering Sandboxie, but I am not so sure anymore. <-QUOTE}
Well, the user data is accessible only if you don't set it right.
Look for that closedfilepath comand. With this, you prevent sandboxed programs from even knowing a folder exists.

It is your call though.

[Longboard]

@tepe2
{QUOTE-> Originally Posted by tepe2
http://www.techsupportalert.com/secu...ualization.htm

I was considering Sandboxie, but I am not so sure anymore. <-QUOTE}

Read this for a response:
http://sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=1414

:thumb:

[ErikAlbert]

I wouldn't worry so much about Sandboxie, if it passes the test on your computer, Sandboxie will work fine.
Sandboxie can't handle my setup, but that isn't common for all computers.
I replaced Sandboxie with DefenseWall, which works with trusted and untrusted applications and my browser is an untrusted application.

Besides, I don't trust any security program. My frozen snapshot takes care of all the failures of each security software.
So it doesn't really matter how good or bad these security softwares are.

[tzuk]

{QUOTE->
4. I open Windows Explorer to see the real folder "My Documents".
5. I click on "My Computer", "Data Partition [D:] to see "My Documents", because the notepad-file "TestingTheSandbox" wasn't supposed to be there, because it was stored in the SANDBOX.
6. So I click on "My Documents" to verify this and then BANG "My Documents" was GONE.
<-QUOTE}

If you were exploring folders through My Computer, Sandboxie would not be involved in this, and certainly wouldn't delete your folders. Now, I understand you had something nasty happen to you, but blaming Sandboxie for it without any proof to back it up, is not a good way to deal with it.

tzuk

[silver0066]

{QUOTE-> If you were exploring folders through My Computer, Sandboxie would not be involved in this, and certainly wouldn't delete your folders. Now, I understand you had something nasty happen to you, but blaming Sandboxie for it without any proof to back it up, is not a good way to deal with it.

tzuk <-QUOTE}I am using Sandboxie with the same setup as Erik. I have My Docs on drive D and have had no problems.

I do not think that Erik's problems were a result of Sandboxie but must have been caused by something else.

[Wordward]

Anyone had this happen since last time? new version is out and is improved.

[innerpeace]

I've been running version 2.86 since the middle of May with no problems whatsoever. I finally updated to the new version, 3.01 about 2 weeks ago and everything has been fine. It's one of my favorite apps and another good layer of protection.

I have a normal setup compared to Eriks. Everything is on my C: drive with my D: drive being my OEM e-machines recovery partition. I don't have an alternative data partition set up.

[Carver]

I've never had any trouble with Sandboxie 2.86, right now I am useing Sandboxie 3.01. I have 2 drives (C+D) in a raid 0, so almost everything is on C drive. My document folder is not called Documents, but it is on C drive. One of the first places a hacker looks for info that he is looking for is the Documents folder. I also have important Documents Read only and Hidden.