Powershadow 2.8.2

[Seishin]

I know there is a thread opened already but there are 29 pages on it and honestly I don't have the time to go through it.

Could anyone answer the following as I am no Mandarin speaker?

1. Conditions to use the software; I mean, what is required to use it for free and how to do it.

2. How to I change the Chinese format into English?


Thx in advance.

[Chuck57]

It is free. All you have to do is enter a name and email address. I used a fake name and email and it registered without a problem.

As for changing the format to English, go to the long Powershadow thread and on page 1, read post 24. He can pm you the details.

[Seishin]

Thx for that. I will.

:)

[glentrino2duo]

according to PowerShadow website, it is no longer free :( I can't even find the chinese language page where they posted a free serial number...

check the FAQ under the question "Is PowerShadow free?":
http://powershadowsecurity.com/PowerShadowFAQGeneral.aspx

can anyone clear this please? is the 2.6 freeware but the latter versions shareware/trialware?

[Seishin]

Thx but I decided not to install it because the whole thing looks shady, including the website itself. You know it's a Chinese thing, never straight forward. Confucianism in practice.

[EASTER.2010]

{QUOTE-> Thx but I decided not to install it because the whole thing looks shady, including the website itself. You know it's a Chinese thing, never straight forward. Confucianism in practice. <-QUOTE}

Dunno if it's really that shady now or not, but not so very long ago when first introduced it sure wasn't and is proven immensely beneficial for those who got in on it's first introduction here.

Power Shadow even trumps a FREEZE snapshot in FD-ISR for me, and no way i would trust such an app if it couldn't perform above and beyond expectations, which it has and continues to this day.

Those who will likely pass over it for various reasons or concerns don't really know what a treasure they've missed out on.

About every sandbox i've tried is always made for one issue or another if not some incompatibility with other softs or the system itself. Same doesn't apply to Virtual Machines but then again they can demand a lot of space.

Space better suited for more a important level of protection as in FD-ISR snapshots, that neither fail nor falter so long as theres ample supply of updated ARCHIVES to fall back on.

Power Shadow fills in that gap of shadowing a volume/partition and with amazing ease, reliability, and effectiveness without even a reboot! Just point and click!
Did i mention it is also multi-compatible with most all security softs and absolutely stable on the system.

PS 2.6 version here

[yankinNcrankin]

As far as I know it still is free check it out here at the bottom page to download version 2.8.2. http://www.worldlingo.com/wl/services/S1790.5/translate?wl_srclang=zh_cn&wl_trglang=en&wl_rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.powershadow.com%2Fcn%2F&wl_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.powershadow.com%2Fcn%2Fproduct.htm

As for the conversion from chinese to english text I have what you need PM me if you want it since I forgot where I dled it from. :)

[Meriadoc]

Yes it is the official english site (http://www.powershadow.com/).

[flinchlock]

{QUOTE-> can anyone clear this please? is the 2.6 freeware but the latter versions shareware/trialware? <-QUOTE}http://wiki.castlecops.com/Lists_of_freeware_virtualization

[flinchlock]

{QUOTE-> 2. How to I change the Chinese format into English? <-QUOTE}
Per this post http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=966939&postcount=519

{QUOTE-> http://www.sendspace.com/file/i2wv6t

Instructions and installer included. Remember to uninstall 2.6 before installing 2.82 <-QUOTE}
Mike

[Seishin]

{QUOTE-> http://wiki.castlecops.com/Lists_of_freeware_virtualization <-QUOTE}


Alright, after reading this extra info I am going to give this program a spin, but I still don't trust this company as they are making difficult for non-Chinese users to access the freeware version.

The page provided by CastleCops and linked by Flinchlock ends up in a different spot:

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/1529/20070428222001cl4.png (http://imageshack.us)

The file can be downloaded from the Chinese site. Here:

http://www.powershadow.com/cn/product.htm

Go right to the bottom and click in the middle link. See screenie:

http://i14.tinypic.com/44smpza.png


Now, what version do you recommend me to download: English (2.6) or Chinese (2.8.2)?

Thx in advance.

[flinchlock]

There are two versions...
2.6 is the English version with the Serial Number
2.8.2 is the Chinese version that only needs a email addy.

A person (Expresso?) translated some of the files in the 2.8.2 version into English, which I am assuming is the file on sendspace.

Almost everyone here on Wilders will tell you it makes NO difference which version you choose.

Mike

P.S. The sendspace version is the official Chinese version from the official site, PLUS an english folder that you take those files and over-write/replace the Chinese files.

[flinchlock]

{QUOTE-> Alright, after reading this extra info I am going to give this program a spin, but I still don't trust this company as they are making difficult for non-Chinese users to access the freeware version. <-QUOTE}
That is really not the reason... you need to read the entire 700+ posts in this link http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=161735.

Mike

[Seishin]

Flinchlock,

Sorry but I don't feel like to go through a 700+ posts thread. Insane!

Don't care about the reasons at this stage, but I would like to say thank you to the developers for making this freeware.

Now I read somewhere in the first 3 pages of that thread some users complaning about the serial number not working. Is this thing still happening now? If so then I would install the Chinese version.

I need this point clarified before I start with the installation.

Thx.

[flinchlock]

{QUOTE-> Now I read somewhere in the first 3 pages of that thread some users complaning about the serial number not working. Is this thing still happening now? If so then I would install the Chinese version.

I need this point clarified before I start the installation. <-QUOTE}What the actual problem is/was when you use the 2.6 English version, do not use Word to copy/paste... instead use Notepad. (Word will have the serial number plus all the bold, format info.)

Mike

Also see: http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=987845&postcount=706

[Seishin]

{QUOTE-> What the actual problem is/was when you use the 2.6 English version, do not use Word to copy/paste... instead use Notepad. (Word will have the serial number plus all the bold, format info.)

Mike <-QUOTE}


Cool, I always use notepad for small stuff I get online.

Cheers.

[EASTER.2010]

You gain nothing with version 2.8.2 but only lose time trying to overwrite the chinese with (Expresso's?) english translation files.

The functionality is exactly the same as in 2.6 so far as i been told, and since it was first installed it has never given me a single moment of concern.

It's now proven a rather routine program such as notepad AFAIK, but with infinitely more strategic value & advantages.

[Espresso]

Aside from offering full system shadowing (all drives) v2.82 also offers better compatibility with 2003 Server and SATA drives. I use both so it seems the better option to me. Just because you cannot see changes between the versions doesn't mean there aren't any. 8)

[EASTER.2010]

{QUOTE-> Aside from offering full system shadowing (all drives) v2.82 also offers better compatibility with 2003 Server and SATA drives. I use both so it seems the better option to me. Just because you cannot see changes between the versions doesn't mean there aren't any. 8) <-QUOTE}

Ahhh, seems i recall now the favorability with Server 2003 but i didn't know about the SATA drives. Thanks for pointing that out and i do stand corrected.

The full shadowing you mention also in addition to the above covers dual-drive set up then? I never bothered to investigate that because so long as my single drive and all it's partitions could be shadowed, that was pretty enough secure IMO.

[Seishin]

Problem,

I tried to install PS and right when I click install a pop-up came up saying that I don't have physical memory in the partition, do you want to continue? I clicked no, checked my drives and got 44.8 and 36.6 GB on both C: and D:

Now what do I do with this, resize the drives?

Very odd, since I am not running that much stuff in this box and got 1 GB of RAM.

Any ideas???

Cheers.

[namdog]

Do you have 44.8G free space on drive C and 36.6 free space on drive D?

Or these two numbers are the partition size, not the free space.

How many free space are there on your system partition ?


{QUOTE-> Problem,

I tried to install PS and right when I click install a pop-up came up saying that I don't have physical memory in the partition, do you want to continue? I clicked no, checked my drives and got 44.8 and 36.6 GB on both C: and D:

Now what do I do with this, resize the drives?

Very odd, since I am not running that much stuff in this box and got 1 GB of RAM.

Any ideas???

Cheers. <-QUOTE}

[19monty64]

O.T.;Do you need to exit running programs (a/v-shield, firewall, etc.) before engaging P.S.? I thought I'd better ask since I couldn't register P.S. until I realized not to enter my own name as user???

[Seishin]

{QUOTE-> Do you have 44.8G free space on drive C and 36.6 free space on drive D?

Or these two numbers are the partition size, not the free space.

How many free space are there on your system partition ? <-QUOTE}

Those numbers are the partition size.


{QUOTE-> O.T.;Do you need to exit running programs (a/v-shield, firewall, etc.) before engaging P.S.? I thought I'd better ask since I couldn't register P.S. until I realized not to enter my own name as user??? <-QUOTE}

I try that and see how it goes. Thx.

[farmerlee]

{QUOTE-> O.T.;Do you need to exit running programs (a/v-shield, firewall, etc.) before engaging P.S.? I thought I'd better ask since I couldn't register P.S. until I realized not to enter my own name as user??? <-QUOTE}
Nah, you just start shadow mode and away you go. No need to turn anything off from my experience, i haven't found anything that conflicts with it yet. If you use 2.82 you do enter your own name and email address to register.

[farmerlee]

On my old school computer all i've been using for a while now is just powershadow. The system is too slow to run layers of security apps and still have tolerable performance. I've got it setup just how i like it and i just boot into full shadow mode everytime. Every malware scan done since has come up empty, no cookies, nothing. Awesome stuff!

[farmerlee]

I've just been trying out virtualization within virtualization LOL! Currently running powershadow within a virtualized windows. Theres really no point to it, i was just doing it to see if its possible :)

[Chuck57]

I've run geswall, Blink, sandboxie, defensewall, and bufferzone inside powershadow,while trialing them, without any problem from any of them.

I've also noticed, and I think I mentioned it in the long thread, that my PC seems to run faster in powershadow. Thought it was my imagination but when I run ps disengaged, it does seem just a bit slower.

[farmerlee]

{QUOTE-> I've run geswall, Blink, sandboxie, defensewall, and bufferzone inside powershadow,while trialing them, without any problem from any of them.

I've also noticed, and I think I mentioned it in the long thread, that my PC seems to run faster in powershadow. Thought it was my imagination but when I run ps disengaged, it does seem just a bit slower. <-QUOTE}
Thats interesting, i've never bothered to test my systems speed while PS is active. I'll run a few tests and see how it goes.

[Peter2150]

{QUOTE-> I've just been trying out virtualization within virtualization LOL! Currently running powershadow within a virtualized windows. Theres really no point to it, i was just doing it to see if its possible :) <-QUOTE}

How about running Sanboxie, inside a FDISR snapshot, on a virtual machine, inside an FDISR snapshot.;D

[farmerlee]

{QUOTE-> I've run geswall, Blink, sandboxie, defensewall, and bufferzone inside powershadow,while trialing them, without any problem from any of them.

I've also noticed, and I think I mentioned it in the long thread, that my PC seems to run faster in powershadow. Thought it was my imagination but when I run ps disengaged, it does seem just a bit slower. <-QUOTE}
After running a performance test I don't think its your imagination. Using 'Performance Test 6' inside a virtualized xp home with nothing else running i scored a 301.5 result. I restarted windows and booted into shadow mode and ran the test again and scored a 315! I guess powershadow does improve a systems performance. Who would have thought a security app would actually boost a systems performance!

[namdog]

Maybe you should check the memory usage

{QUOTE-> After running a performance test I don't think its your imagination. Using 'Performance Test 6' inside a virtualized xp home with nothing else running i scored a 301.5 result. I restarted windows and booted into shadow mode and ran the test again and scored a 315! I guess powershadow does improve a systems performance LOL! <-QUOTE}

[WilliamP]

Which is more secure PowerShadow or DefenseWall? I was wondering because I have DW and have read that it very secure.

[EASTER.2010]

{QUOTE-> I restarted windows and booted into shadow mode and ran the test again and scored a 315! I guess powershadow does improve a systems performance. Who would have thought a security app would actually boost a systems performance! <-QUOTE}

Yes, and thats one of those nice surprises that only a very few apps possess. I can't explain it but just like Power Shadow i have seen apps that actually INCREASED PERFORMANCE even though they offered no claim of such a benefit but who's complaining? ;D

[farmerlee]

Running virtualized windows normally.

[farmerlee]

Running virtualized windows in shadow mode.

[19monty64]

{QUOTE-> Nah, you just start shadow mode and away you go. No need to turn anything off from my experience, i haven't found anything that conflicts with it yet. If you use 2.82 you do enter your own name and email address to register. <-QUOTE}
I'm using 2.6....I found that not exiting apps. caused PS-error, booting into PS got the same error. Closed all apps and no problems???

[farmerlee]

{QUOTE-> I'm using 2.6....I found that not exiting apps. caused PS-error, booting into PS got the same error. Closed all apps and no problems??? <-QUOTE}
What sort of apps were you using? I've used PS with av's, im's, firewalls and imaging software running and had no problems.
Worst come to worst you could always try out 2.82, turning it into the english version is very simple.

[19monty64]

{QUOTE-> What sort of apps were you using? I've used PS with av's, im's, firewalls and imaging software running and had no problems.
Worst come to worst you could always try out 2.82, turning it into the english version is very simple. <-QUOTE}
I removed PrevX and all runs smoothly now. Not sure why, but I definitely prefer using PowerShadow.

[farmerlee]

{QUOTE-> I removed PrevX and all runs smoothly now. Not sure why, but I definitely prefer using PowerShadow. <-QUOTE}
I will definitely have to try PS alongside prevx to see if also get errors.

[19monty64]

I also had a prob. when applying changes in xp-antispy. The shadow-mode lettering in the display-corners disappeared for about 3-5 secs and then came back on??? I have tested several new apps. in shadow-mode with no probs. Maybe too many security apps. disagree with my 'puter???

[19monty64]

Uh oh....with everything but DK2007 disabled I just activated PS.....screen went black and pc re-booted??? Windows reported nothing in event viewer, so I have no explanation for PS's glitches???

[farmerlee]

Just tried out PS 2.6 alongside prevx, i experienced no problems. Started shadow mode from within windows with prevx active and no problems. Booted into shadow mode with prevx active and no problems. Your problem is a mystery....

[EASTER.2010]

Try to remember, not all issues some experience with it are Power Shadow related. Yes, some programs do & will conflict, of that there is no doubt and sometimes no remedy except to uninstall.

I haven't tried shadow-mode with Prevx1 myself although i have run it independently. I think that's where we run into issues at times and most definitely if we're carrying a heavy compliment of security apps, monitoring progs and such.

Hope you finally pinpoint what's causing that disruption and from there you will likely need to settle on one or the other.

Regards EASTER

[19monty64]

The problem I had with PS 2.6 must have been with the installation itself. I tried a 2nd time, and had no probs even with apps. running. Also booted into shadow-mode w/out probs. If at first you don't suceed......

[19monty64]

May have figured the problem. I rebooted into shadow-mode and got "error code : 82f37128." When opening PS I noticed it was trial version. Had to re-enter code and re-boot TWICE before PowerShadow remembered registration. Re-booted again just to make sure. Must be getting late (LOFL) 'cause I can't figure if I registered differently each time???

[EASTER.2010]

{QUOTE-> Must be getting late (LOFL) 'cause I can't figure if I registered differently each time <-QUOTE}

For me too. Been up all night (again :isay: ) I'm following you on that. Looks like it might just be the registration part causing it. I use 2.6 and installed again on another drive like this. Install from the installer, allow it to finish and simply reboot. Then after the restart opened the program and went directly to register and entered required info, it responded successful and then i disable the Boot Start-Up Screen. I don't need to start PS from boot menu is why because you can do that from the program once the GUI is up.

Plz keep us advised and thanks.

[19monty64]

{QUOTE-> For me too. Been up all night (again :isay: ) I'm following you on that. Looks like it might just be the registration part causing it. I use 2.6 and installed again on another drive like this. Install from the installer, allow it to finish and simply reboot. Then after the restart opened the program and went directly to register and entered required info, it responded successful and then i disable the Boot Start-Up Screen. I don't need to start PS from boot menu is why because you can do that from the program once the GUI is up.

Plz keep us advised and thanks. <-QUOTE}
Oooooo........I think I entered reg.code prematurely a coupla times lol...... I know I booted then entered reg.code when it did finally werk. Must be??? (ROFL)

[namdog]

I don't know what happened on you computer, but I have two suggesions. Maybe you can try them.

1, Uninstall and re-install PowerShadow. Make sure that all other software(especially anti-viurs, firewall, etc) have been closed during the whole process.

2, Defrag your hard drive.

{QUOTE-> May have figured the problem. I rebooted into shadow-mode and got "error code : 82f37128." When opening PS I noticed it was trial version. Had to re-enter code and re-boot TWICE before PowerShadow remembered registration. Re-booted again just to make sure. Must be getting late (LOFL) 'cause I can't figure if I registered differently each time??? <-QUOTE}

[19monty64]

{QUOTE-> I don't know what happened on you computer, but I have two suggesions. Maybe you can try them.

1, Uninstall and re-install PowerShadow. Make sure that all other software(especially anti-viurs, firewall, etc) have been closed during the whole process. <-QUOTE} been there...
{QUOTE-> 2, Defrag your hard drive. <-QUOTE} done that... I'm pretty sure the problem was with the installer, namely the person doing the installing???

[19monty64]

{QUOTE-> been there...
I'm pretty sure the problem was with the installer, namely the person doing the installing??? <-QUOTE}
The installer was indeed the problem as all is running smoothly. Thanx to all the wilders members for their imput in this matter, and especially for bringing PS to my attention. My pc is content in knowing that it is safe from my "click-happy teenaged daughters" and their "damn-the-instructions" father!!!:thumb: :thumb:

[Espresso]

{QUOTE-> Uh oh....with everything but DK2007 disabled I just activated PS.....screen went black and pc re-booted??? Windows reported nothing in event viewer, so I have no explanation for PS's glitches??? <-QUOTE}

You shouldn't use Diskeeper on your shadowed drive. Any changes to the file system have to be stored in the shadow copy so that can add up to a huge temp file if your drive is seriously fragmented.

[19monty64]

DK2007 only defrags when idle and my pc doesn't go idle when in shadow-mode...

[Perman]

hi, folks: if your DK 2007 is pro or pro premier version, its auto defrag feature may be the cause Expresso is referring. This auto feature will defrag your disk in the background, if is enabled, whether pc is active or idle.

[innerpeace]

I'm trying 2.6 out and have a quick ?. What does ShadowSetting.exe do and why does it need internet access? Thank you!

[farmerlee]

{QUOTE-> I'm trying 2.6 out and have a quick ?. What does ShadowSetting.exe do and why does it need internet access? Thank you! <-QUOTE}
Shadow setting allows you to configure certain aspects of powershadow, i believe it accesses the internet to check for updates.

[innerpeace]

{QUOTE-> Shadow setting allows you to configure certain aspects of powershadow, i believe it accesses the internet to check for updates. <-QUOTE}

Thank you for your reply farmerlee. I believe your right about the update. Unfortunately I couldn't run the 2.6 version, but I persisted and tried the 2.8 v. and it works for me so far. I think I'm going to have fun with PS :).

[EASTER.2010]

{QUOTE-> Shadow setting allows you to configure certain aspects of powershadow, i believe it accesses the internet to check for updates. <-QUOTE}

If you're not interested in when an update is available you can easily uncheck that box in the settings. Simple as that. LoL

[innerpeace]

I disabled the check for updates option. Is it safe to disable shadowtip.exe from the startup? I noticed it wanted to connect out the last time I was in shadow mode. I don't plan on booting in to shadow mode so that is not a problem. I disabled the options for bootup. Thanks

[farmerlee]

I have shadowtip disabled from autostarting as well. It doesn't seem to cause any problems imo.

[EASTER.2010]

I never once had any use of the boot screen menu for Power Shadow since i enter my GUI before any conncetions to the internet are started. So i unchecked that setting too. If you need to go online in Shadow-Mode all you need to do is enter Shadow-Mode before you connect to internet and therein is another advantage. One click and you're shadow protected immediately from that point then the reboot flushes or dismissed that session along with any actions that might have been written to the virtual shadowed disk making it abreeze to return to it's previous state of operation as b4.

[innerpeace]

Thanks farmerlee and Easter. I will disable shadowtip. Thank you for your help.

p.s. The last time I checked powershadows' site, their forum was up. I only saw one post though.

[WilliamP]

I have finally gotten 2.82 running on my sys. I know I don't have it set up properly because I'm running the Chinese version. I can work it ok because I have the English version 2.6 on my other computer. So I know what is there. How do I disable Shadowtip?

[innerpeace]

I disabled all my starting programs with spybot s&d. I'm also running winpatrol which allows me to do the same. AVG AS can also I think. I also unchecked the option for updates within powershadows options.

Did you get the translation files for 2.8? It was really easy. If I can do it, I'm sure you can.

[koreanmark]

Powershadow 2.8 is not stable and always cause my XP blue screen.

some questions:

Why I never see any Beta testing news with Powershadow on it's website?
When it will support the Vista?
How can I use it in a 64bit XP?

[farmerlee]

{QUOTE-> Powershadow 2.8 is not stable and always cause my XP blue screen.

some questions:

Why I never see any Beta testing news with Powershadow on it's website?
When it will support the Vista?
How can I use it in a 64bit XP? <-QUOTE}
You're probably better off asking these questions in the powershadow forums.

[Franklin]

The PS forum does seem to be down at the moment.I did read over there earlier that beta testing of Ver 2.9 will start soon.

Running PS here with no probs and even have recently installed it within a couple of test XP virtual machines.

Hard drives are cheap to buy these days so setting up a slave drive and dropping a clone onto it should take the worry away about hard drive failure.

Never experienced a total hard drive failure here.Even my old 10 gig drive from the Win98 days is still going ok.

PS FAQ (http://powershadowsecurity.com/PowerShadowFAQTroubleshooting.aspx)
{QUOTE-> Why my PowerShadow doesn't work normally?
We received this question every day.
The most likely reason is PowerShadow didn't installed correctly. Usually other running programs (especially security-related software, such as anti-virus, firewall, process monitor, etc ) provents PowerShadow from complete installation.
We * HIGHLY HIGHLY HIGHLY * suggest you close all other running programs before installing PowerShadow. <-QUOTE}

[Perman]

hi, folks: PS's english web site is running normally here in North America. I did find a very interesting info: just go to forum re: survey--how long have you been using power shadow and where are you coming from. That info may shed some light with regard to how PS was perceived by 2,000,000 souls. Another tea time stuff for myself---read it, laught at it and shred it. Ha, Ha, Ha.

[EASTER.2010]

{QUOTE-> The PS forum does seem to be down at the moment.I did read over there earlier that beta testing of Ver 2.9 will start soon.

Running PS here with no probs and even have recently installed it within a couple of test XP virtual machines.

Hard drives are cheap to buy these days so setting up a slave drive and dropping a clone onto it should take the worry away about hard drive failure.

Never experienced a total hard drive failure here.Even my old 10 gig drive from the Win98 days is still going ok.

PS FAQ (http://powershadowsecurity.com/PowerShadowFAQTroubleshooting.aspx) <-QUOTE}

Same here Franklin

I'm building up a collection of many brands of them now and is why i won't be needing any External Drives at all. And your right on target! Clone your active Hard Drive to the Slave/Secondary and your good to go in case of any problems. I'm almost of the mind anymore to completely forget about imaging and just CLONE then pack the duplicate away for safekeeping later if needed.

[Perman]

Hi, folks: To find PS's forum, two ways; direct and indirect. try www. at powershadowsecurity.com for direct link to its english one, or try www. at powershadow.com for link to its Chineses site, then choose the English option, it will take you to the same English one. Good luck.

[WilliamP]

You can't get much response on the PS forum. You get a lot more here. I wish that their representatives would visit Wilders.

[ErikAlbert]

{QUOTE-> You can't get much response on the PS forum. You get a lot more here. I wish that their representatives would visit Wilders. <-QUOTE}
That depends on the population of the PS forum. If it's full of average users, you won't get much reply to your questions. You need knowledgeable users, creative thinkers and testers in a forum. If these people don't exist you get a social chat, nothing more than that.