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bryanjoe
April 21st, 2007, 07:38 AM
anyone try this?

http://www.auslogics.com/disk-defrag/index.php

Capone
April 21st, 2007, 08:10 AM
Hello Bry,


I tryed Auslogics and I was not happy with it !

try this :
http://www.kessels.com/JkDefrag/index.html

it is fast, free, easy (320kb) and usefull, and my computer is very fast !


safe day,
Zoran

TOMxEU
April 21st, 2007, 09:55 AM
I used AusLogics Disk Defrag on XP and I use it on Vista and it allways worked well for me.

malformed
April 21st, 2007, 10:02 AM
The best IMO Contig v1.54 - http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/FileAndDisk/Contig.mspx

Frontend/GUI available by RejZor (http://www.wilderssecurity.com/member.php?u=15844) @ http://www.excessive-software.eu.tt/

OldMX
April 22nd, 2007, 03:35 PM
I agree, Auslogic did a great defrag on my other computer running Vista Home

cheater87
April 26th, 2007, 05:07 PM
Just tried the product in post one and it did speed my computer up by 1 percent. :P Said so in the results and WOW that was fast haha.

sweater
April 28th, 2007, 02:39 PM
{QUOTE-> Hello Bry,


I tryed Auslogics and I was not happy with it !

try this :
http://www.kessels.com/JkDefrag/index.html

it is fast, free, easy (320kb) and usefull, and my computer is very fast !


safe day,
Zoran <-QUOTE}

You're right....Two thumbs up...:thumb: ;) 8)

bellgamin
April 28th, 2007, 03:35 PM
{QUOTE-> You're right....Two thumbs up...:thumb: ;) 8) <-QUOTE}That's only 1 thumb I see there.:shifty:

In any event, here's another vote for JKDefrag (http://www.kessels.com/JkDefrag/). I use it from the command line...

Start > Run > JkDefragCmd -a 3 c:
Then
Start > Run > JkDefragCmd -a 4 c:

{Of course, I first had to copy JkDefragCmd.exe into C:\Windows :blink: }

zapjb
April 28th, 2007, 04:07 PM
Check this out.

JkDefrag GUI 0.7
http://www.majorgeeks.com/JkDefrag_GUI_d5620.html

JkDefrag GUI is a convenient GUI (Graphical User Interface) for JkDefrag, which is a free (GNU GPL) disk defragment and optimize utility for Windows.

JkDefrag is a Free (released under the GNU General Public License) disk defragment and optimize utility for Windows 2000/2003/XP/Vista/X64.

Completely automatic and very easy to use, fast, low overhead, with two optimization strategies, and can handle floppies and USB disks/sticks.

Screenshots
http://www.emro.nl/freeware/

Pedro
April 28th, 2007, 05:34 PM
I have both. I also have no idea how to measure any one. Why is jkdefrag any better? Beats me:)

HAN
April 28th, 2007, 11:10 PM
I'm a recent convert to JKDefrag. Along with using the GUI from Mr. Wieldraaijer that zapjb mentions. It runs fast and smooth... :)

zapjb
April 29th, 2007, 02:02 AM
That GUI also gives jkDefrag alot more options. ;D

benny bronx
April 29th, 2007, 12:00 PM
Used JKdefrag, and it seems to do a good job. The one question I have is that it seems each degragger has a different strategy for file placement. I would think that the devs of my OS (I know, its MS) would know the proper placement of files for optimum performance. Should I trust a program that changes it? I now use only powerdefrag+contig and it's placement is different than that of JKdefrag. This may be a stupid observation but cut me some slack, I'm a borderline newbie/novice.

lucas1985
April 29th, 2007, 02:03 PM
{QUOTE-> The one question I have is that it seems each degragger has a different strategy for file placement. I would think that the devs of my OS (I know, its MS) would know the proper placement of files for optimum performance. <-QUOTE}
That's the reason why there are many defraggers. Some defraggers (like contig) doesn't have a file placement strategy, it only defrags. Others have different algorithms for file placement. IMHO, the best file placement is given by a smart partitioning strategy (http://partition.radified.com/) which also reduces the need for defragging.

benny bronx
April 29th, 2007, 03:51 PM
Hi Lucas1985:

Thank you for the information, but my question remains: Do these defraggers have a better strategy for file placement than the ones that are part of your OS?. Are you saying that windows defrag does not have a file placement? And, if not, isn't that a file placement strategy in itself? Also, I thought contig + power defrag includes file placement (last option, power defrag ).

bellgamin
April 29th, 2007, 06:34 PM
{QUOTE-> Hi Lucas1985:

Thank you for the information, but my question remains: Do these defraggers have a better strategy for file placement than the ones that are part of your OS? <-QUOTE}A) XP's built-in defragger is a slimmed-down version of an outdated version of Diskkeeper. It can be VERY slow, depending upon the size of your HD, how loaded it is, and how fragmented it is. If you check various forums, many folks have gone to 3rd party defraggers because XP's can take several hours to do the job. If you aren't having that problem, and if your computer is still lively & snappy, then perhaps the XP defragger is all you need.

{QUOTE-> Are you saying that windows defrag does not have a file placement? And, if not, isn't that a file placement strategy in itself? Also, I thought contig + power defrag includes file placement (last option, power defrag ). <-QUOTE}B) Their "strategy of file placement" (if you can call it that) is more or less this...

(1) Analyze to determine available HD free space(s) versus size & extent-defragmented of files

(2) Reorganize HD free space (close gaps between files, etc) IF & AS needed so as to enable defrag.

(3) Defrag file A & (if moved) restore position

(4) Repeat 2 & 3 for files b, c, d etc, as needed, until finished.

C) JK's *optimization strategy does a teeny bit more than the above, but still is quite simplex...
{QUOTE-> Fast optimization- ...scans for gaps on the disk and fills them with files from above.

Full optimization- ...The strategy is the same as for fast optimization, plus the files just above a gap are moved away until the gap can be completely filled with files from above.

A typical harddisk can easily contain tens of thousands of files, all with different sizes. What is the optimum way to organize the files into the blocks? The number of permutations is astronomical, it boggles the mind. JkDefrag doesn't even try to calculate them all. It concerns itself with only one block at a time, trying to fit only files from above the block, and limits itself to 0.5 seconds of calculating time. <-QUOTE}D) Thus, JK defrags much faster than XP's defragger. Also, once defrag is finished, it will give *average users* several dozen nanoseconds faster load times. Wow! (not)

E) UltimateDefragger (not free) REALLY seeks to optimize. It analyzes-in-depth data such as frequency-of-use, so as to not only defrag files, but also to position those files needing fast/frequent access in the fastest HD area. UD actually DOES give noticeably faster load times, even for many *average* users.

F) IMO -- For most *average* users (not into game playing or other high speed needs/urges, and not using HDs with humongous gigabytes of files) optimization won't amount to a pool of warm spit. Defragging once every 3-months or so will be just fine.

G) NOTE: There are many files that cannot be moved while Windows is running. To defrag thse kinds of files, I recommend Microsoft's/SysInternal's PageDefrag (http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/utilities/PageDefrag.mspx).

>>>Quote from that Pagedefrag's site...
{QUOTE-> One of the limitations of the Windows NT/2000 defragmentation interface is that it is not possible to defragment files that are open for exclusive access. Thus, standard defragmentation programs can neither show you how fragmented your paging files or Registry hives are, nor defragment them. Paging and Registry file fragmentation can be one of the leading causes of performance degradation related to file fragmentation in a system.

PageDefrag uses advanced techniques to provide you what commercial defragmenters cannot: the ability for you to see how fragmented your paging files and Registry hives are, and to defragment them. In addition, it defragments event log files and Windows 2000/XP hibernation files (where system memory is saved when you hibernate a laptop).

PageDefrag works on Windows NT 4.0, Windows 2000, Windows XP, and Server 2003. <-QUOTE}

benny bronx
April 29th, 2007, 06:48 PM
Informative. Thank you Bellgamin.